Jim Ross said nothing about Punk-Perry in an episode of Grilling JR dedicated to All In London which was done back to front in the knowledge people will sit through every fucking ad to get to the sauce which in the end wasn't part of that particular dinner.
Jim will say anything about anything to keep himself in his position at AEW and when he's left the company he'll shoot the shit about it all in a book or something to sell like that.
Until then, you can't trust one goddamned thing he says about anything involving people who work in AEW.
Billy Gunn was a based lifter but he was nowhere near the only athlete in the WWE, and Gunn brags about not trying hard together with Road Dogg for most of his run there.
He's impressive now at 60ish, but that's now. He wasn't Lesnar, he wasn't Austin, he wasn't the Rock.