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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:07:29 No.11870052 View View Reply Original Report

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:12:11 No.11870083 Report

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>>11870052
Create "compelling characters and legitimate story arcs" is the most low-effort criticism possible so it's no wonder he's always going on about that. No shit they're trying to create characters people are interested in. If it were that easy then anyone would do it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:12:17 No.11870084 Report

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>>11870052
Dave getting exposed more and more these days is hilarious

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:15:42 No.11870117 Report

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>>11870052
BASED Bitschoff
Aew BTFO again

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:16:30 No.11870128 Report

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>>11870052
AEW cope is that more fans are bad and they don't want to grow their audience. They're proud to be the weird annoying gay kid nobody wants to sit with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:18:29 No.11870144 Report

Quoted By: >>11870289

>>11870052
Says the guy that milked the NWO well after its expiry date.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:18:35 No.11870146 Report

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>>11870083
The characters are mostly
>Guy who attacked other guy so he's heel
and
>Guy who helped other guy so he's face
whike the storylines are mostly
>You attacked me so I wanna fight you
or
>I'm attacking you because I wanna fight you
with the story arcs mostly being
>You know what? I don't like you anymore so I'm a heel
or
>You know what? I like you now, so I'm a face
Not exactly the most compelling thing multiple times a night for 4 years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:19:16 No.11870158 Report

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>>11870083
it's also something he never accomplished in his entire career in television

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:20:19 No.11870167 Report

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>>11870052
Conrad must die on the inside every time Eric goes after his idol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:20:25 No.11870171 Report

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>>11870146
>>Guy who attacked other guy so he's heel
>and
>>Guy who helped other guy so he's face
So, Cody vs Brock and Cody teaming up with Jey?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:21:08 No.11870178 Report

Quoted By: >>11870242

>>11870083
> low effort criticism
Please show me when has attempted this. Every story arc revolves around friendship and someone getting jumped . Every god damn story arc revolves the business of pro wrestling

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:22:01 No.11870183 Report

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>>11870146
this is 99.9% of all wrestling, including wwe. you're exposing yourself as someone who doesn't actually watch wrestling. but i guess maybe you want the heel to also bury the local sports team?

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:22:32 No.11870192 Report

Quoted By: >>11870239

>>11870158
> easy e created the nWo. Something that would revolutionize the business
> HE NEVER DID ANYTHING
I love when smarks are this stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:22:55 No.11870198 Report

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>>11870128
Isn't this the same rationale /pw/ use when they cope over JerkChads posting here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:23:22 No.11870202 Report

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>>11870083
he doesn't do anything to try to learn so it is a perfectly legitimate criticism, in fact he actively cites 150 German smarks on a tiny website as objective proof his show is great

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:23:24 No.11870203 Report

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>>11870083
There were a few times where he almost had something, Miro and the redeemer gimmick for example. But then he is too retarded to know where to go with them and then he loses interest and forgets about them so everyone else does too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:23:33 No.11870205 Report

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>>11870167
It’s funny to me that after being smartened up by countless wrestling personalities he continues to be a smart mark. I can’t believe it .

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:23:56 No.11870213 Report

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>>11870146
But enough about the fed.

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:25:59 No.11870230 Report

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>>11870052
I want Bischoff to run AEW so fucking badly bros. I also want Russo and Cornette to run it with him. They'd kill each other but my god it'd make for some great TV.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:27:01 No.11870235 Report

Quoted By: >>11870264

>>11870052
nothing like boomers who went out of business trying to tell people how to do things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:27:24 No.11870239 Report

Quoted By: >>11870257 >>11870288 >>11870598

>>11870192
He ripped off the NWO idea from New Japan.
He did not create a single character that became a part of the NWO
Larry Zbyszko came up with the name.
Kevin Sullivan convinced Hogan to turn heel.
The storyline had no arc or conclusion
It caused the collapse of the company

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:27:33 No.11870242 Report

Quoted By: >>11870265

>>11870178
Yeah that's what tends to happen when every single story has to end with two guys fighting each other, unless you want to go off the wall with Russo tier stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:27:45 No.11870244 Report

Quoted By: >>11870598 >>11870704 >>11870749

Things Bischoff was TERRIBLE at doing. He lived off one angle he stole from Japan (NJPW v UWFI) and had no idea how to develop most of the roster. At least Khan is trying to move guys like Swerve to the next level, Bischoff didn't even try with Booker/Raven/Benoit/ect

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:28:00 No.11870246 Report

Quoted By: >>11870378

>>11870203
>Miro
but didnt miro ruin it by wanting some time off? then he just didnt like what tony had planned for his return and stayed away for months. tony just has no ideas or vision though so he is ultimately to blame for everything since he is in charge

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:28:04 No.11870249 Report

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>>11870083
>No shit they're trying to create characters people are interested in. If it were that easy then anyone would do it.
Toni Storm just did it by acting like a washed up 1940's starlet. Roderick Strong did it by putting on a neckbrace and yelling ADAAAAAAM. It isn't hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:29:28 No.11870257 Report

Quoted By: >>11870318

>>11870239
but the nwo when it was hot drew 3 or 4 milly viewers on a weekly basis

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:30:21 No.11870264 Report

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>>11870235
WCW reached greater heights under Bischoff than AEW ever will under Tony.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:30:26 No.11870265 Report

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>>11870242
>unless you want to go off the wall with Russo tier stuff.
Yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:30:51 No.11870274 Report

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>>11870052
You don't understand. What they need is more ex wwe, indie and Japanese talent. The fact that they already have dozens of those guys signed doesn't matter, they still need more.

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:32:58 No.11870288 Report

Quoted By: >>11870331

>>11870239
Listen to this cope. Kek.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:33:01 No.11870289 Report

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>>11870144
At least he had one good idea. I'm still waiting for a hot aew angle. Even TNA had the main event mafia and cracky Claire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:34:30 No.11870301 Report

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The AEW roster needs to take some of the blame. They can pitch whatever they want and develop any kind of character. Most WWE wrestlers will never be have that freedom. Some of these guys need to sack up rather than making tweets and crying to dirt sheets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:36:04 No.11870318 Report

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>>11870257
he didn't create a single character from the NWO, and he didn't write a compelling story beyond EX-WWE GUY DEBUTS A AND JOINS NWO, which is why it didn't last. And then his faggot ass did the same exact thing in TNA

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:36:33 No.11870322 Report

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>>11870146
You forgot the critical foundation of every AEW angle:
>"Wrestler Man, would you like to be my friend?"
>no
>"OK we'll have a match"
>sure
>"Damn you pinned me, why won't you be my friend you dirty meany man"
>don't wanna
>btw I'm hitting you with a chair now
>"PPV MATCH OR BUST"
>ok
>"Well well look at that, I beat you with 3 stipulations against you and several people interfering on my behalf as the babyface, will you be my friend now?"
>ok
>"yaaay"
>syche *BOOM*
>"YOU BETRAYED MY FRIENDSHIP"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:36:57 No.11870325 Report

Quoted By: >>11870357

>ripping off and milking nwo is a bad thing!!!!
lol she he have adapted yeah, but at least he was actually winning the ratings war for how many days straight by finding something that clicked and ran with it. Tony may stumbling into something good and just fumble the bag the next week.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:37:57 No.11870331 Report

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>>11870288
>it's cope that WCW lost 71 million dollars from 1999-2000.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:38:43 No.11870341 Report

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>>11870083
Yeah how dare he suggest a television show act like a television show

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:40:18 No.11870357 Report

Quoted By: >>11870387 >>11870684

>>11870325
>LMAO AEW DONT CREATE NEW CHARACTERS
>Bischoff didn't create any new characters
>WRONG HE MADE THE NWO
>the NWO was all old WWF characters or guys who used to play WWFcharacters but wore black jackets now, that's they lost the war
>OH SO WHATS BAD ABOUT NOT CREATING CHARACTERS???

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:40:26 No.11870359 Report

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>>11870052
*goes out of business*

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:42:45 No.11870378 Report

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>>11870246
He was injured...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:43:14 No.11870387 Report

Quoted By: >>11870428

>>11870357
>ignores story arcs
>ignore format television
NO HE DIDN'T CREATE CHARACTERS!!!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:48:59 No.11870428 Report

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>>11870387
what was the story arc?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:51:40 No.11870449 Report

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>>11870052
kek gotta love the Bischoffster

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 22:08:16 No.11870598 Report

Quoted By: >>11870702 >>11870756

>>11870239
>>11870244
Explain the similarities between the New Japan angle and the NWO because assuredly you have watched both and won't have to Google anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 22:15:51 No.11870684 Report

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>>11870357
Nash and Hall were more over in WCW than they were in WWF. Maybes that's them getting themselves over, but even if it was just the investment in them and getting out of the way Eric did more with them then vince.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 22:17:34 No.11870702 Report

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>>11870598
Ain’t no way he watched anything from new Japan from that era . If he watched anything from Shinya he wouldn’t be happy with this modern day slop

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 22:17:35 No.11870704 Report

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>>11870244
Bischoff put Raven, mysterio, benoit on national TV. He just didn't see then as main event guys. And let's be honest, Eddy and benoit didn't set the world on fire business wise

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 22:21:49 No.11870749 Report

Quoted By: >>11870792

>>11870244
He featured all of those guys and he put them on the map. Jericho, ray, Raven were fucking nobodies before WCW. But it was a different time. The main event scene was stacked you couldn’t let some random midget win the belt over hogan and Goldberg

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 22:22:26 No.11870755 Report

Quoted By: >>11871099

>>11870084
How is this "getting exposed"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 22:22:33 No.11870756 Report

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>>11870598
>Explain the similarities between the New Japan angle and the NWO
Wrestlers from a rival promotion invading the company. And no, Biscoff never actually added other layers onto this basic premise

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 22:26:28 No.11870792 Report

Quoted By: >>11871061

>>11870749
>Jericho, ray, Raven
He didn't create these character, and he didn't write stories for this characters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 22:28:23 No.11870815 Report

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>>11870083
Honestly the natural born thrillers would be a step up from the standard aew groups. The problem is they have multiple groups but don't utilise them in story telling. Off hand you have JAS, Planet Jarret, Don Callis Family, Dark Order, House of Blacked, Elite, The Kingdom, Mogul Embassy, BCC, Whatever is going on with the luchadores, qtv, best friends, los inglonables. They have all these groups but no stories about why any group has a fued with anyone other than bcc hates everyone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 22:42:19 No.11870962 Report

Quoted By: >>11871161

>>11870052
Nice advice Eric. Try to use it on practice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 22:43:57 No.11870975 Report

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>>11870052
Doesn't Dave still have Eric blocked

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 22:54:11 No.11871061 Report

Quoted By: >>11871219

>>11870792
No but he featured them and put them in prominent positions constantly to show their talents. AEW would be doing fine with that model but Tony’s schizo booking just cools people down and takes them off tv for weeks

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 22:57:33 No.11871099 Report

Quoted By: >>11871161

>>11870755
Because Dave thought he figured out to best wwe for decades now. Put into practice and he was wrong. Work rate doesn’t work

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 22:58:45 No.11871113 Report

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>>11870052
Daaaaaaaaaamn!

AEW GOT KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 23:00:15 No.11871123 Report

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AEW needs few real TV writers

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 23:01:24 No.11871132 Report

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He's right though, there is nothing really compelling about AEW. The MJF/Cole stuff was going places, then it didn't. MJF/Punk was amazingly good, then the whole brawl happened and all the problems.

AEW peaked with Kenny doing the belt collector stuff and Punk debuting. There were a lot of compelling and interesting storylines I'd tune in for at that point - Miro/Darby was great.

I also think there is too much focus on absolute shitters like Sammy constantly getting the rub and going no where.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 23:05:15 No.11871161 Report

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>>11870962
>>11871099
Practice? Practice. We talking about practice? ...Practice

I've never watched AEW so it's hard to actually talk about their booking without meme'ing. But I see they have MJF vs Jay White. Again, I've never seen these guys wrestle. But I know enough to say both wrestlers have lost ALL their momentum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 23:10:46 No.11871219 Report

Quoted By: >>11871899 >>11872217

>>11871061
>simping for the guy who lost the war and went out of business

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 00:06:20 No.11871710 Report

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>>11870052
Bischoff is so money he doesn’t even know how money he is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 00:15:51 No.11871899 Report

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>>11871219
I accept your concession

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 00:17:58 No.11871939 Report

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Does Eric think we forgot his TNA run?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 00:19:44 No.11871965 Report

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They need to get rid of the spot monkeys, retcon the 4 pillars, book the women better, and make your champions guys with cross over appeal because right now, there are a lot of charisma vacuums.

Cant all rely on vets to pick up the slack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 00:20:39 No.11871974 Report

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Bischoffs been pretty based since the CM Punk not drawing stuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 00:33:42 No.11872217 Report

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>>11871219
Things that have been said to you about tony khan

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 00:46:20 No.11872469 Report

Quoted By: >>11872761

>>11870128
Yes, more fans kills everything, like video games, movies, WWE, /pw/, 4chan, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 00:56:24 No.11872651 Report

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>>11870171
Yes exactly, why would you want to emulate it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 01:00:29 No.11872729 Report

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>>11870052
>This man drove the top wrestling company into the ground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 01:02:00 No.11872761 Report

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>>11872469
I guess. It’s a difficult thing. Things that aren’t well known, we want to keep them to ourselves because we want it to feel like “ours.” The truth is, the critic/listener is the real artist. Whatever is genuinely good, the cream will rise to the top. I don’t know, man. Gatekeeping is good, but it can’t be done forever. It’s interesting though. You do hear about things becoming popular and turning to shit, like the internet itself. Why is that? Are the majority of people just insufferable idiots?

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