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WWE wrestlers with the most 5 star matches

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 08:47:35 No.12230380 View View Reply Original Report

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>Gunther: 5
>Johnny Gargano: 4
>Adam Cole: 3
>Bret Hart: 2
>Shawn Michaels: 2
>Tyler Bate: 2
>Ilja Dragunov: 2
>Sheamus: 2
>CM Punk: 1
>John Cena: 1
>Andrade Almas: 1
>EC3: 1
>Velveteen Dream: 1
>Ricochet: 1
>Killian Dain: 1
>Lars Sullivan: 1
>Drew McIntyre: 1
>Seth Rollins: 1
>Cody Rhodes: 1
>Trent Seven: 1
>Kyle O'Reilly: 1
>Roderick Strong: 1
>Kevin Owens: 1
>Sami Zayn: 1
>Jey Uso: 1
>Jimmy Uso: 1
>Razor Ramon: 1
>Owen Hart: 1
>Steve Austin: 1
>Undertaker: 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 08:50:22 No.12230390 Report

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Why didn't Necrobutcher come out?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 08:51:08 No.12230393 Report

Quoted By: >>12230395

its crazy that gargano has 4 but ciampa has 0

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 08:51:47 No.12230395 Report

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>>12230393
I forgot about Ciampa, he has 1 with Gargano

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 09:56:40 No.12230579 Report

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>>12230380
Is this just counting their time in WWE? Because I know AJ Styles has one from TNA

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 10:13:12 No.12230620 Report

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>>12230380
Logan Paul never had anything less than a 5 star match.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 10:42:52 No.12230714 Report

Quoted By: >>12230852 >>12232895

>>12230380
This shows how stupid the 5 star rating is. Dave has a very limited idea of what makes a match good. There is a reason why most wrestlers don't respect him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 11:02:31 No.12230791 Report

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>>12230579
yeah

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 11:13:50 No.12230824 Report

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>>12230380
>Kurt Angle: 0
Ridiculous

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 11:23:31 No.12230852 Report

Quoted By: >>12230879

>>12230714
Dave is a shoot retarded manbaby smark giving fake critic points in his fanzine to the circus clowns that acknowledge his existence. He’s shoot the worst fan in the history of wrestling for enabling the other retarded manbaby smarks who’ve now made the shows unwatchable. Fuck Dave and anyone who takes him seriously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 11:28:36 No.12230870 Report

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Meltzer smokin on dem woods, bruh. Wazz guuuud.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 11:28:41 No.12230871 Report

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>>12230380
What are the objective criteria to earn stars?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 11:30:47 No.12230879 Report

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>>12230852
Fine speech

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 11:45:35 No.12230956 Report

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>>12230380
Kinda crazy how WWE always has so much scrutiny when it comes to rating matches, but AEW gets so much slack and objectively gets overrated by Meltzer.

Fair-Minded Anon !CcMser0ahk

Fair-Minded Anon !CcMser0ahk Fri 10 Nov 2023 11:49:31 No.12230976 Report

Quoted By: >>12232432

Let's make our own list of 5 star matches
>Rock Hogan
>Cody Seth HiaC
>WeeLC

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 11:50:35 No.12230981 Report

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>>12230380
Wonder if he regrets giving wrestlers like Dream and Lars Sullivan a 5 star in hindsight after the controversies

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 11:57:02 No.12231028 Report

Quoted By: >>12231102

>>12230824
Not really. People get mad at this but dude isn’t having 5 star matches with Shane McMahon and Godfather. Angle’s based but comes from an era and worked in a company where workrate was the last thing on anyone’s mind. I think one of the HBK matches should’ve gotten this but at the end of the day, people seething about Angle not getting 5 stars while being an Olympic gold medalist is stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 12:14:42 No.12231102 Report

Quoted By: >>12231130

>>12231028
I'm a Davechad and even I think Kurt deserved 5 stars for a lot of matches, such as
>vs Benoit RR 03
>vs HBK WM21
>vs Carder No Mercy 2006
>vs Mr Anderson TNA

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 12:16:35 No.12231110 Report

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>I'm a Davechad

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 12:22:43 No.12231130 Report

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>>12231102
I agree with HBK and maybe Benoit (I enjoyed the match but personally thought they had better matches together.)
That said, it’s small and Angle had those matches in a company with a philosophy ultimately based around spectacle and drama over in ring athleticism. By the time we got wrestling machine Angle, his body was already a broken down mess held up by duct tape and pills.
People seething over Angle not having a 5 star match should instead seethe about WWE not making wrestling a priority.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 12:32:10 No.12231182 Report

Quoted By: >>12231194 >>12231227

>>12230380
Why are most of them NXT shitters? How does developmental have more then the main roster?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 12:34:19 No.12231194 Report

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>>12231182
They pander to Dave's fetish

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 12:39:46 No.12231227 Report

Quoted By: >>12232416

>>12231182
NXT is wrestling focused because women don’t watch it/Stephanie doesn’t have any hands on it so they don’t need to focus primarily on soap opera drama.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 15:56:09 No.12232352 Report

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HOLY CRINGE

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 15:59:05 No.12232379 Report

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>>12231130
>People seething over Angle not having a 5 star match should instead seethe about WWE not making wrestling a priority.

Its got nothing to do with that and everything to do with time period. Dave was more stingy during the RA era and overrated the fuck out of the NXT Gargano era.

That No Mercy tag match with Edge/Rey would be 5.5 or some shit if it happened today.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 16:05:06 No.12232416 Report

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>>12231227
I take it you haven't seen NXT in the past few years.

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Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 16:06:32 No.12232425 Report

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>>12230380
>>Johnny Gargano: 4
>>Adam Cole: 3

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 16:06:58 No.12232432 Report

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>>12230976
chris nowicki and jackie gayda vs JBL and trish

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 16:07:26 No.12232435 Report

Quoted By: >>12232472 >>12232753

Those Gargano matches have no lasting impact, no legacy, and nobody can even remember which ones they are talking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 16:09:32 No.12232449 Report

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>>12230380
Goes to show how his influence has effected wrestlers and promoters over time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 16:15:07 No.12232472 Report

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>>12232435
Same with all AEW matches.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 16:16:56 No.12232480 Report

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>Gunther: 5
>Gargano: 4

This is two opposites of the spectrum of wrestling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 16:51:39 No.12232753 Report

Quoted By: >>12232858

>>12232435
I do remember the spot at the end of Gargano vs Ciampa 1 where Gargano is about to hit Ciampa with the knee brace but hesitates

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 16:53:54 No.12232773 Report

Quoted By: >>12232793

>>12230380
I love that Roman Reigns and Meltzer debate about 5 stars matches.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 16:56:29 No.12232793 Report

Quoted By: >>12232797

>>12232773
Dave...Dave...gimme my fuckin 5 stars uce

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 16:57:02 No.12232797 Report

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>>12232793
Kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 16:57:30 No.12232803 Report

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b63JWbr_I4

I WONT GIVE YOU THE STARS ROMAN

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 17:04:22 No.12232858 Report

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>>12232753
Which is lifted from the Eddie Edwards vs Davey Richard series from ROH, which was also just a spot fest with corny acting segments.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 17:07:50 No.12232869 Report

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>>12230380
>EC3 and Trent Seven have more 5 star matches than Roman

Cody needs to have his working boots on next Mania

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 17:10:32 No.12232895 Report

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>>12230714
Highly disagree but I'd like to see your list. Dave has his opinions and his star ratings are his. It's yall and the wrestlers that put them on a pedestal.

I disagree a lot with his ratings btw. I definitely have certain matches at 5 stars that he has around 4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 17:11:34 No.12232908 Report

Quoted By: >>12233062

Cody has 3. It's the same character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 17:11:40 No.12232910 Report

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FIVE STARS LARS always makes me pop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 17:16:28 No.12232948 Report

Quoted By: >>12233047 >>12233154

Roman can't have a 5 star match because he is too formulaic. It's because his matches never build to anything. Just one time if Roman wrestled a match and did a new move, threw some good chops, throw in a few unique counters and setups, and a few ACTUALLY CLOSE false finishes, all leading into a properly built to big finish, he would easily receive 5 stars. He is one of the best sellers in wrestling and his work is actually exceptionally good. It's just that his match is always a complete dud. He wrestles the same match every single time. That wouldn't be a problem if his match was more exciting like HBK but it's not. It's all about getting heat on the babyface, but there's never a payoff, because he always wins. Get's heat on the baby for 30 minutes, get visually pinned while the ref is down, interference, wins.
If Roman really went toe to toe with the other guy instead of just move taunt move taunt and then just pinned the guy clean off a big top rope samoan drop or something, he could get the 5 stars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 17:30:13 No.12233047 Report

Quoted By: >>12233100 >>12233154

>>12232948
>too formulaic
Every 5+ match from the last 5 years has been formulaic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 17:33:16 No.12233062 Report

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>>12232908
I'm counting matches in WWE only

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 17:37:22 No.12233100 Report

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>>12233047
formulaic in that they hold the formula of what a 5 star match has
>dynamite kid lockup sequence
>trading dives to the floor
>dangerous apron and top rope spots you don't see in a normal match
>outside spots
>counter reverse counter reverse
>running ropes into double takedown
>callback to another match
>counter reverse counter reverse
>18 false finishes
>match ends after 3 finishers and a piledriver

guaranteed if Roman followed this formula he would get the rating. but his formula instead just draws insane dimes instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 17:42:25 No.12233154 Report

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>>12232948
>>12233047
Yeah like a lot of Okada main events are formulaic but great. It's just the Roman formula was only good not great at first and has grown incredibly stale. Dunno if it's the constant interference, the first half of every match being rest holds and trash talk or the fucking visible pin which they need to get rid of because everyone knows what will happen when someone gets a 5 count on him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 19:19:51 No.12234132 Report

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>>12230380
wow

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 19:21:06 No.12234141 Report

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>>12230380
>EC3: 1
Lol what

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Nov 2023 20:01:35 No.12234559 Report

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>>12230380
lame

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