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Women's wrestling is still pretty bad overall and even the Horsewomen have only gotten worse since their NXT days. But is propped up due to identity politics.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 05:22:02 No.12299296 Report

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>>12299274
Moments and promos will always draw more than the actual wrestling

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Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 05:23:11 No.12299303 Report

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>>12299296
but they still lead to matches, the climax that sells PPVs

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Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 05:23:19 No.12299304 Report

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The name "Razor Ramon" was a cocaine reference

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 05:23:56 No.12299305 Report

Quoted By: >>12302287

NXT was never good or watchable

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 05:24:54 No.12299308 Report

Quoted By: >>12299412 >>12301347 >>12302287

the only reason anyone ever cared about aew is because 2019 wwe was dogshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 05:26:09 No.12299312 Report

Quoted By: >>12302287

>>12299274
Austin's heel turn didn't kill the business, things were slowly trending downwards after peaking in early/mid 2000. It did accelerate things going spiraling down though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 05:26:13 No.12299313 Report

Quoted By: >>12301137

>>12299296
The only people with this mentality are emotionally stunted manchildren

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 05:35:25 No.12299348 Report

Quoted By: >>12302287

sullivan did it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 05:43:18 No.12299377 Report

Quoted By: >>12302287

>>12299274
Matches that are executed well and tell a coherent story from bell to bell (however minor, as long as it's effective) still matter more than anything else in wrestling, yet almost every modern wrestling fan, whether you're a MOVEZ mark or an anti-smark, seems to be convinced that a wrestling match is a series of move sequences whose only condition is to be bumped for and not botched, and that the storytelling is entirely contained within the pre-match build and finish

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 05:52:12 No.12299402 Report

Quoted By: >>12299416 >>12302287

>>12299274
TV is filler

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 05:53:58 No.12299407 Report

Quoted By: >>12302287

>>12299274
Star ratings aren't real and good characters and story and proper heat will always, every time be better than a "good match."

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 05:55:50 No.12299412 Report

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>>12299308
Same reason anyone outside of Japan ever cared about NJPW. Same reason anyone cared about TNA. Same reason anyone cared about WCW.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 05:56:55 No.12299415 Report

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>>12299285

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Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 05:57:05 No.12299416 Report

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>>12299402
It shouldn't be filler. What it should be though is a week by week commercial for the PPV they're trying to sell. WWE stopped trying to sell PPVs though so none of it really means anything anymore as long as that $9.99 keeps coming through

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 06:06:50 No.12299453 Report

Quoted By: >>12300925 >>12302287

>>12299274
Wrestling will never be mainstream again as it can't evolve any further and is inferior to other forms of storytelling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 06:08:00 No.12299456 Report

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>>12299416
why should the weekly shows be PPV infomercials when television rights are more important nowadays and you want people in the advertising demographic to watch week to week

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 06:09:21 No.12299465 Report

Quoted By: >>12302287

>>12299274
The Undertaker was a worse champion than Diesel

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 06:10:58 No.12299473 Report

Quoted By: >>12300949 >>12301147 >>12302287

>>12299274
All of the "storylines," "characters," and "moves" are actually 100% real.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 06:12:21 No.12299483 Report

Quoted By: >>12299499 >>12300273

>>12299282
>Brawl for All
>XFL
>Katie Vick
no

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 06:13:21 No.12299489 Report

Quoted By: >>12301638

>>12299415
Jumpin' Jeff Farmer was perfect as he was. No notes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 06:15:38 No.12299499 Report

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>>12299483
Brawl for All was Vince Russo's idea, XFL was dimes with poor execution and Katie Vick was hilarious. Try again bozo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 06:16:13 No.12299500 Report

Quoted By: >>12299531 >>12302287

>>12299274
All of 2022 and 2023 wrestling has been pure shit even though WWE has “record profits”.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 06:18:38 No.12299511 Report

Quoted By: >>12302287

>>12299274
Hate to use a tumblr term but allnjoshi fans are hopeless incels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 06:21:32 No.12299523 Report

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>>12299499
get Vincetty's dick out of your mouth and stop coping, retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 06:22:33 No.12299531 Report

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>>12299500
Nah, All Out was one of the best PPV's I've ever seen in my life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 06:33:28 No.12299579 Report

Quoted By: >>12302287

>>12299274
Passion and desire mean jack shit. It's all about athleticism, charisma, and luck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 07:07:27 No.12299746 Report

Quoted By: >>12302287

Bret screwed Bret.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 07:12:02 No.12299765 Report

Quoted By: >>12302287

>>12299274
All the best stuff has already happened

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 07:13:33 No.12299771 Report

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>>12299523
>no argument
>resorts to personal attacks
Typical low-IQ Vince hater

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 07:20:06 No.12299803 Report

Quoted By: >>12299815 >>12299816 >>12302287

Nash was raped

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Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 07:21:55 No.12299815 Report

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>>12299803
HOLY SHIT

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Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 07:22:11 No.12299816 Report

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>>12299803
wtf, is this true?

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Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 07:23:41 No.12299826 Report

Quoted By: >>12299858 >>12302287

>>12299274
Wrestling will die in our lifetime because zoomers don't care for it. It'll still survive in Mexico, though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 07:30:16 No.12299858 Report

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>>12299826
OP is a zoomer retarded faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 07:34:43 No.12299876 Report

Quoted By: >>12302287

>>12299274
92

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 07:36:49 No.12299884 Report

Quoted By: >>12302287

Vince Russo is not only the greatest wrestling mind, overall he's the most talented and smartest person to ever work in the wrestling business.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 07:39:16 No.12299896 Report

Quoted By: >>12302287

>>12299274
Inoki created professional wrestling and MMA

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 07:50:48 No.12299933 Report

Quoted By: >>12302287

wrestling is dead because we as the fans killed it. we wanted to know too much. they let us know too much, ecw, rf videos, kayfabe commentaries, ddt, wwe, wwf, aew, wcw and many more are to blame but the ultimate blame falls on us. you. we made pro wrestling socialist. wwe/aew has proven that "it doesnt matter what the fan wants".because we started chanting instead of voicing. shame on us.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 07:53:40 No.12299942 Report

Quoted By: >>12302287

>>12299274
the samoans have dirt on vince

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 07:54:10 No.12299944 Report

Quoted By: >>12302287

>>12299274
CMLL is the only promotion to ever do wrestling right

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Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 07:54:31 No.12299948 Report

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>The only people with this mentality are emotionally stunted manchildren

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 08:08:17 No.12299994 Report

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>>12299295
this so much, it's never been easier to be a women's wrestler than these days, you can't get criticized no matter how much you suck because of my pussy rights

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 08:11:03 No.12300014 Report

Quoted By: >>12300158 >>12302287

>>12299274
Hogan's a better worker than Flair, and Flair's a bigger liar than Hogan.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 08:11:20 No.12300017 Report

Quoted By: >>12302287 >>12303053

>>12299274

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 08:12:52 No.12300026 Report

Quoted By: >>12302287

Wrestling isn’t dead, the fans are just whiny annoying faggots

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 08:16:45 No.12300047 Report

Quoted By: >>12302287

BENOIT DIDNT DO IT

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 08:51:59 No.12300158 Report

Quoted By: >>12300180 >>12300942

>>12300014
>Hogan
>worker
Hogan is the very definition of coasting.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 08:56:34 No.12300180 Report

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>>12300158
YOU have been worked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 09:14:47 No.12300230 Report

Quoted By: >>12302287

>>12299274
15$ for nachos at a wrestling event isn't actually a bad price.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 09:16:47 No.12300241 Report

Quoted By: >>12302287

>>12299274
Benoit didn't kill his family or himself.

WCW was controlled opposition by 2000.

The Streak was booked by accident.

Stef was fucked by Macho Man.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 09:18:23 No.12300250 Report

Quoted By: >>12300256 >>12300257 >>12300266

>>12299296
Objectively and factually wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 09:22:15 No.12300256 Report

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>>12300250
wtf are you trying to prove with that image?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 09:22:35 No.12300257 Report

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>>12300250
you are proving him right moroni

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 09:24:29 No.12300266 Report

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>>12300250
A chart showing wrestling's peak popularity was when wrestling matches were the least important proves him wrong?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 09:26:58 No.12300273 Report

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>>12299483
Brawl For All was a draw after Bart knocked someone out and the audience realized it wasn't worked.

Fair-minded Anon !CcMser0ahk

Fair-minded Anon !CcMser0ahk Fri 17 Nov 2023 09:29:16 No.12300279 Report

Quoted By: >>12300285 >>12300298 >>12302287

Joshi shit is usually actually better than everything except WWE and NJPW when they're good

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 09:30:22 No.12300285 Report

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>>12300279
You’re gay as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 09:35:01 No.12300298 Report

Quoted By: >>12301150 >>12303053

>>12300279
Nah, that's the bluepill. The real redpill is that joshi wrestling is atrociously bad. And also that the jews did 9/11.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 12:08:02 No.12300925 Report

Quoted By: >>12301128

>>12299453
>Wrestling will never be mainstream again
Incorrect. It likely won't be mainstream because Haitch won't book faces that can do crossover media like Hogan did in the 80's. The whole "heel/face" Roman bullshit prevents crossover into other media. Tony Khan ... there too much wrong with his booking to even be able to identify a problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 12:12:45 No.12300942 Report

Quoted By: >>12300952

>>12300158
>Hogan is the very definition of coasting.
You presume that the wrestling ring is where Hogan did his work. This isn't the case. Hogan worked everywhere. Good Morning America. Late night shows. MTV. Movies. Vitamins. Breakfast cereal. Spaghetti Os. The dude understood how to sell and understood the inside of the ring probably mattered the least. Hogan was the best worker in wrestling history.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 12:13:42 No.12300949 Report

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>>12299473
This.
WWE is a shoot, UFC is a work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 12:14:29 No.12300952 Report

Quoted By: >>12301117

>>12300942
And that only works for as long as people are still into G.I. Joes and don't realize you do steroids.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 12:59:06 No.12301117 Report

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>>12300952
GI Joe was out of style and the steroid scandal was over by the time Hogan was in WCW. Hogan almost took down the WWE. It just works, bruther.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 13:00:17 No.12301120 Report

Quoted By: >>12302287

>>12299274
The only thing wrong with AEW is they can't stop comparing themselves to the WWE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 13:00:32 No.12301122 Report

Quoted By: >>12302287

Wrestling is real, is the biggest redpill. They are actually fighting each other for real.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 13:01:55 No.12301128 Report

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>>12300925
Nah he's right and you're wrong, it will never be mainstream again ever regardless of how good quality their tv shows are

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 13:04:23 No.12301137 Report

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>>12299313
sure but that's wrestling's target fanbase though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 13:06:12 No.12301144 Report

Quoted By:

>>12299296
>>12299303
yeah without the great matches you dont get a satisfying conclusion to the story. but without the story you get an exhibition of fake fighting which only goes so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 13:07:07 No.12301147 Report

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>>12299473
Is this true

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 13:07:51 No.12301150 Report

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>>12300298
modern joshi wrestling is just idol shit. but even the classic stuff from the 90s is overrated by smarks as a reaction to north american women's wrestling. there's no psychology, just spot fests and chicks trading german suplexes. it's only fun as a novelty when you've never seen women wrestle like that before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 13:48:01 No.12301327 Report

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>>12299295
AJW ruined women's wrestling for me. Live rounds being traded and the wrestlers constantly dumping each other on their head with piledrivers and what not. Makes the modern stuff seem so tame and forgettable by comparison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 13:51:03 No.12301347 Report

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>>12299308
Thread is red pills, not pink pig pills. But no denying AEW has cooled off and WWE has always been capable of being hot, they're just too incompetent and fatheaded for most of the run. Literally having the McMahons come on TV to say the product sucks and they're going to listen to the fans from now on, only to do nothing different all over again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 13:51:27 No.12301352 Report

Quoted By: >>12302287

is fake and is a geek sport for beta males wrestling will never be mainstream again

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 14:31:12 No.12301507 Report

Quoted By: >>12302287

Zesty Dave is a bigger movie star than The Wok, who is only propped up by the fact that the chinks love the (((F*st and F*rious))) movies for some reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 14:57:43 No.12301638 Report

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>>12299415
>>12299285
>>12299489
You mean nWo Sting, the guy who was massively over in NJPW and is THE Sting to Japs?

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Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 15:33:50 No.12301918 Report

Quoted By: >>12302144 >>12302252 >>12302287

>>12299274
These are all true

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 15:58:34 No.12302128 Report

Quoted By: >>12302144

>12301918
>randy orton is a gross-out fetishist
qrd?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 16:00:41 No.12302144 Report

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>>12301918
>>12302128

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 16:02:23 No.12302160 Report

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>>12299282
Towards the end, Vince might not have been great at picking stars, but throughout his tenure he was pretty good at spotting a shitter.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 16:03:56 No.12302172 Report

Quoted By: >>12302287

>>12299274
All the Bra and Panties matches were shoots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 16:15:35 No.12302252 Report

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>>12301918
>doesn't have "the Stone Cold gimmick is Vince's abusive stepdad"
>"Ringmaster references anal rape"
>"Million Dollar Dream is erotic asphyxiation"
>"Ministry of Darkness was a redpill"
>"Original Stephanie was actually sacrificed as a child; angle's a re-enactment"
>"Brock Lesnar was ordered to botch the Shooting Star Press, somehow survived"
>"The Rock in Jewish and English gematria: Baphomet"
>"Mr McMahon in Jewish gematria: GOD'S PLAN"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 16:20:33 No.12302287 Report

Quoted By: >>12303185

>>12299282
>>12299292
>>12299295
>>12299296
>>12299304
>>12299308
>>12299312
>>12299377
>>12299407
>>12299453
>>12299465
>>12299500
>>12299511
>>12299579
>>12299746
>>12299765
>>12299933
>>12300017
>>12300026
>>12301352
true/mostly true

>>12299285
>>12299305
>>12299348
>>12299402
>>12299473
>>12299803
>>12299826
>>12299876
>>12299884
>>12299896
>>12299942
>>12299944
>>12300014
>>12300047
>>12300230
>>12300279
>>12301120
>>12301122
>>12301507
>>12302172
false/mostly false

>>12300241
false, false, true, true

>>12301918
not reading

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 16:23:37 No.12302314 Report

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>>12299274
Wrestling is real and the idea of kayfabe is, in itself, a work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 16:29:49 No.12302374 Report

Quoted By: >>12303165

>>12299274
womeme's """wrestling""" isn't good and their best match ever wouldn't even crack the best 2000 men's matches and that's being generous.
attitude era had it right with what the womeme's place was in wrestling

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 16:36:14 No.12302443 Report

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>>12299274
wrestling died when it didn't pivot into the social media era and become a worked shoot. the stuff behind the scenes is more interesting than any storylines nowadays since every good storyline has been done already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 17:12:52 No.12302794 Report

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>>12299274
KEVIN R. NASH WAS RAPED IN 1992.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 17:36:37 No.12303053 Report

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>>12300017
That post was big dimes. Maintain a carnie mindset at all times fellas.

>>12300298
hard based

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 17:39:43 No.12303082 Report

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Montreal was a work

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 17:47:03 No.12303157 Report

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>>12299295
Rhea Ripley?
Zoey Stark?
Bianca Belair?
Charlotte Flair (every like 6th match)?
Iyo Sky?
Asuka (every 3rd match)
Becky Lynch (female seth rollins for better or worse)

Even the developing talent like

Maxxine
Tiffany
Lyra
Kelani Jordan

whatever opinion you have on womens wrestling, you cant say that it isnt on an upward trajectory

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 17:48:04 No.12303165 Report

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>>12302374
real quick whats your BMI and when was the last time you were in a gym?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Nov 2023 17:49:45 No.12303185 Report

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>>12302287
fuck off forever

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