https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT0mRk93j50&ab_channel=NEWJAPANPRO-WRESTLINGELP straight up says that Tony tried to poach him 4 years ago.
ELP also works in the office to some degree since hes makes some of the NJPW posters (hes talked about this on tama tongas podcast).
Condisding if you listen to any other major wreslting podcast that's not Dave you will constantly hear that Tony is a meme that no one respects and is schizophrenic as fuck.
i imagne Jay and Juice are telling him how much of a shit show it is.
Saying that, he'd leave if Tony came with fucking millions like Ospreay (and i can't blame him)