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Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:22:09 No.12494218 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12494232 >>12494246 >>12494247 >>12494253 >>12494267 >>12494280 >>12494364 >>12494485 >>12494496 >>12494531 >>12494533 >>12494653 >>12494672 >>12494896

Who is better?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:23:13 No.12494227 Report

Quoted By: >>12494237 >>12494240 >>12494267 >>12494747 >>12494864

Jericho and it's not even close. Michaels gets less impressive the more wrestling you watch outside the WWE bubble.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:23:37 No.12494232 Report

Quoted By: >>12494251

>>12494218
Y2J by far, never got injured after 3000 matches and got over everywhere he went. Plus he created aew on his star power alone without help. No brainer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:23:57 No.12494237 Report

Quoted By: >>12494378

>>12494227
Wrong and absolutely retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:24:16 No.12494240 Report

Quoted By: >>12494478

>>12494227
>Michaels gets less impressive the more wrestling you watch outside the WWE bubble.
The more of a virgin loser you are the less you like Michaels
What an own

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:24:49 No.12494246 Report

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>>12494218
HBK easily, Jericho has never been anything more than a short midcarder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:24:54 No.12494247 Report

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>>12494218
They are literally the same wrestler but Jericho has significantly better mic skills and longevity, along with not being a shoot homosexual who sucks dick and takes it in the ass. So him

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:25:08 No.12494251 Report

Quoted By: >>12494300

>>12494232
>Created a no milly shit promotion
Next you're going to tell me Fozzy is good

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:25:21 No.12494253 Report

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>>12494218
As a singer? HBK

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:26:08 No.12494267 Report

Quoted By:

>>12494227
This
>>12494218
Ask this question pre-aew console wars and nobody was picking shawn desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:27:21 No.12494280 Report

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>>12494218
Jericho not even a debate, and i loved hbk growing up

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:28:07 No.12494289 Report

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>This one faggot desperately trying to get Jerichode over

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:29:30 No.12494300 Report

Quoted By: >>12494336

>>12494251
81,000 fans at Wembley
AEW outdrew wwe in attendance during the first year in 2019
All Out 2019 had the same level of demand as Wembley, that would be 2 80,000+ events right there
All In 2024 already sold 35,000 in a day, it will do 70,000+ too.
So yes redditor, making aew is a huge deal

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:29:34 No.12494302 Report

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Jericho. More entertaining, less of a jackass, more character variety, also done more outside of WWE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:32:35 No.12494336 Report

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>>12494300

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:33:28 No.12494342 Report

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maybe it's an age thing but jericho was never over with me besides ironically fozzy when i was a teenager. jericho was in his gordon ramsay phase back then and it was anti-dimes for an edgy nerd

shawn was cool though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:35:35 No.12494364 Report

Quoted By: >>12494449

>>12494218
Shawn Michaels as the face of the biggest promotion, after a 5 year main event push with prime Undertaker Bret Sid Mankind Austin to feud with
>Average PPV buys - 150,000 (1996)
He was pulling AEW numbers when far more people watched wrestling at the time, compare that to aew having nobody known to the public until about 2021 aside from Jericho and maybe Moxley when nobody watched wrestling.
No debate. Jericho is better by any metrix

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:37:48 No.12494378 Report

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>>12494237
He’s right. Shawn is mediocre and sucked vince’s dick, without propaganda he’s nothing just like Eddie

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:45:03 No.12494449 Report

Quoted By: >>12494508

>>12494364
>Shawn Michaels as the face of the biggest promotion, after a 5 year main event push with prime Undertaker Bret Sid Mankind Austin to feud with
You can thank Bret Hart for killing the business. Ratings actually increased when Shawn was the top face in 1996-98.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:46:05 No.12494464 Report

Quoted By: >>12494492

i like jericho but michaels 97/early 98 eclipses everything y2i ever did. he was a totally believable piece of shit and he looked amazing, on top of all his strong in-ring work. he was a believable heavyweight somehow despite his size. jericho just doesnt have the same disposition or ability to convince. he screams cruiserweight, and everything always seems comedic or goofy with him

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:46:10 No.12494465 Report

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They were my two favorites as a kid. I won't choose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:47:29 No.12494478 Report

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>>12494240
>associates having sex with children's programming

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:48:31 No.12494485 Report

Quoted By: >>12494513 >>12494526

>>12494218
the only feud Jeribloat didn't botch in WWE was with HBK while HBK had plenty of memorable feuds outside of the Bloatmeister

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:49:04 No.12494492 Report

Quoted By: >>12494638

>>12494464
Shawn was mediocre at his peak and never had a good match without gimmicks. Anything Jericho Guerrero did in wcw mog him

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:49:23 No.12494496 Report

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>>12494218
Shawn in the ring, Jericho at everything else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:50:24 No.12494508 Report

Quoted By: >>12494520

>>12494449
Nice try, Shawncel. He was a flop as a top guy by any metric.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:51:02 No.12494513 Report

Quoted By: >>12494603

>>12494485
Had the best feud most years
>Jericho Malenko - 1998
>Jericho Benoit - 2000
>Jericho Rock - 2001
>Jericho HBK - 2003
>Jericho Christian - 2004
>Jericho Michaels - 2008
>Jericho Mysterio - 2009
>Jericho Edge - 2010
>Jericho Punk - 2012
>Jericho Owens - 2016
That’s at least 10 years where he had one of the best feuds of the year. Probably more i forgot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:51:35 No.12494516 Report

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>that one gAyEWtoid desperately trying to huff up Jerichode
kek he was in the Jeribloat and draw threads earlier seething out of his mind

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:52:04 No.12494520 Report

Quoted By: >>12494542 >>12494545

>>12494508
That's not what the ratings say.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:53:10 No.12494526 Report

Quoted By: >>12494536

>>12494485
I can literally name 20-30 good matches from him right now without Shawn Michaels off the top of my head. I couldn’t even name 10 from Shawn without mentioning Jericho or Undertaker

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Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:53:43 No.12494531 Report

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>>12494218
Fuck jannies lol. Anyways Shawn is the goat only losers like Chris and Bret.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:53:55 No.12494533 Report

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>>12494218
Sebastian Bach

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:54:12 No.12494536 Report

Quoted By: >>12494559

>>12494526
No one cares what some AEW troon thinks, fortunately. This ain't the WON forums.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:54:52 No.12494542 Report

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>>12494520
Shawn couldn't even convince his own hometown to come out and see the Royal Rumble

>captcha: 4wGAY

even it knows what kind of magazine it was

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:55:26 No.12494545 Report

Quoted By: >>12494562

>>12494520
Shawn literally returned in 2007 as a member of DX and lost 900,000 viewers on a raw where Austin gained 1 million. Jericho’s return that year gained 700,000 viewers

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:57:17 No.12494559 Report

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>>12494536
Copium

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 15:57:40 No.12494562 Report

Quoted By: >>12494620

>>12494545
source?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:04:15 No.12494603 Report

Quoted By: >>12494631 >>12494648

>>12494513
just stop. this is legit mental illness. yeah everbody in 1998 was loving jericho vs malenko instead of austin vs mcmahon/taker/kane, or dx vs the nation. or any number of feuds. nobody cared about or remembers whatever on earth jericho or benoit were doing in 2000. feuding for the european title with chyna most likely

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:06:08 No.12494620 Report

Quoted By: >>12494798

>>12494562
>More on Harry Smith, DX's Ratings Woes & More - Although the 05 November Raw did a 3.75 rating with 5.2 million viewers, making it the highest rated edition since the illegitimate McMahon storyline reveal on 10 September, which got a
3.89, Steve Austin proved a far better draw than DX. Although the opening DX promo performed well it was Austin's segment with Santino Marella that performed best, gaining 1.1 million viewers. The various DX skits that followed Austin lost 921,000 viewers. The DX match in the main event only gained 464,000 viewers. Also, the Vince McMahon and Shawn Michaels in-ring confrontation on the 29 October Raw lost 402,000 viewers

>Jericho Return Buzz, Flair's Retirement, Edge/Title Run 11/26/2007 by Ryan Gray - The quarter hour rating for Chris Jericho's return to WWE on RAW last week was a 3.8. This equals out to 700,000 extra viewers tuning in to see it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:07:10 No.12494631 Report

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>>12494603
Why are you having such a meltdown Shawncel? Anything from wcw was better than HBgay’s whole career

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:08:38 No.12494638 Report

Quoted By: >>12494657

>>12494492
ever considered it's not just about matches and moves? jericho wrestling el dandy in wcw isnt the same as hbk facing taker in hell in a cell or the whole dx stuff. hbk's career highlights are far brighter than any of jericho's. jericho was just "pretty decent" his whole career

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:09:47 No.12494648 Report

Quoted By: >>12494728 >>12494755 >>12494769

>>12494603
>Nobody cared about Malenko vs Jericho
Got one of the loudest pops in wcw history despite the fact Malenko was off screen for two months. Stop fucking seething you raging schizo

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:10:05 No.12494653 Report

Quoted By: >>12494665 >>12494694 >>12494715

>>12494218
Michaels is the Mechaels, Jerichoetty's current mid life crisis is entirely due to being the eternal mid card Jannetty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:10:10 No.12494657 Report

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>>12494638
WHO ARE YOU TO DOUBT EL DANDY!?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:11:11 No.12494665 Report

Quoted By: >>12494682

>>12494653
>Mechaels
gms

Who is Jericho the Jannetty to: Storm? Benoit? lol. lmao even.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:11:39 No.12494672 Report

Quoted By:

>>12494218
jericho has had a much longer, less toxic, and more successful run than shawnetty

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:12:37 No.12494682 Report

Quoted By:

>>12494665
all the other members of Fozzy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:13:37 No.12494694 Report

Quoted By: >>12494709

>>12494653
>Guy who sucked dick, got booed everywhere in his prime and nearly killed wwe in 1996 doing record low buys
>Guy who put aew on the map, drew record numbers in njpw with Alpha vs Omega & worked in front of 80,000 at Wembley at 52 in a 4.75 star match
Hmm

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Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:15:13 No.12494709 Report

Quoted By: >>12494734

>>12494694
>Jeribloat
>putting anything on the map
holy shit lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:15:39 No.12494714 Report

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Michaels couldnt cut a promo. But Jericho wishes he was half as good in the ring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:15:41 No.12494715 Report

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>>12494653
Shawn was jannetty to Triple H in his own faction, the most successful DX was in 1998 when he fucked off

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:17:00 No.12494728 Report

Quoted By: >>12494755 >>12494769

>>12494648
Stop Jericel. Youve been posting this the last few weeks. Just stop. It was a pretty good pop, that's it. It came nowhere near anything Goldberg or anybody else ever did. You are embarrassing yourself. Last week you tried to claim Malenko unmasking was "the biggest pop in WCW history"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:17:42 No.12494734 Report

Quoted By: >>12494737

>>12494709
Yes, objectively a fact no matter how much you cope shawncel. Nobody knew anyone in aew from 2019-2020 other than Jericho. The rest of the roster were literal who smark darlings that had never been on TV before

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:18:37 No.12494737 Report

Quoted By:

>>12494734
Tiny Con's billionaire father put gAyEW on the map, sorry to say

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:19:25 No.12494747 Report

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>>12494227
When I look outside of the WWE bubble all I see is a bunch of shitters trying to be the next Michaels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:20:09 No.12494755 Report

Quoted By:

>>12494648
>>12494728
Also I never said
>Nobody cared about Malenko vs Jericho
so i have no idea why you put that there as though you were quoting me. get help

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:21:33 No.12494769 Report

Quoted By: >>12494787 >>12494845

>>12494728
You are mentally ill, and never watched wcw. Just seething on a message board about a guy who lives rent free in your head
>>12494648
It was a massive pop, i’d say below Goldberg winning the titles & Sting’s return, nothing else though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:22:49 No.12494787 Report

Quoted By: >>12494808

>>12494769
they popped for Malenko, why'd ya put Jeribloat there?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:24:00 No.12494798 Report

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>>12494620
This is pointless because it is missing context. In 2007 both Triple H and Shawn Michaels were regular performers. Austin was not. No shit his return would have a pop in ratings. But let's not kid ourselves - DX was fucking huge in 2007-2010. Everyone was wearing the glow stickers, did the crotch chops and the DX sign and I say that as someone who absolutely despised that version

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:24:39 No.12494808 Report

Quoted By: >>12494834

>>12494787
He was off screen for two months & had nothing to do with the build. The only reason people popped is because they wanted to see Jericho get his ass kicked since he was insufferable prick who kept taunting his family

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:26:25 No.12494834 Report

Quoted By: >>12494857

>>12494808
They would've popped for Malenko regardless. Jeribloat could've been replaced by Pepe the horse and the result would've been the same

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:27:43 No.12494845 Report

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>>12494769
I watched wcw and wwf in 98, and calling jericho vs malenko the best feud of 1998 is fucking hilarious

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:28:51 No.12494857 Report

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>>12494834
You are mentally ill

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:29:16 No.12494864 Report

Quoted By: >>12494868 >>12494891

>>12494227
Michaels worked more memorable matches on the 90s than Jericho has in the current century

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:30:05 No.12494868 Report

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>>12494864
Never had a good match without a gimmick. Never had a 5 star match the entire century

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:33:06 No.12494891 Report

Quoted By: >>12494978

>>12494864
The only thing HBGay worked in the 90s was Vince's dick

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:33:50 No.12494896 Report

Quoted By: >>12494941

>>12494218
Michaels because he didnt have to change his gimmick or turn face/heel every 8 months
Jericho is great at coming up with gimmicks that are entertaining for 2 months and then complete garbage for the next 6

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:37:24 No.12494941 Report

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>>12494896
Shawn never got over as a babyface, all of the men in the audience booed him for his dimeless gay stripper gimmick. This is clearly from someone who never watched 90s wrestling

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:40:42 No.12494978 Report

Quoted By: >>12494990

>>12494891
that's not what ur mom said back in the day when Shawn worked her ass nonstop

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 16:42:01 No.12494990 Report

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>>12494978
He only fucked vince we have video of him shaking his ass like a faggot in vince’s face with vince smiling

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