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Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 11:54:25 No.12592571 View View Reply Original Report

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Why is everyone inspired by Shawn and Bret instead of actual draws?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 11:55:56 No.12592575 Report

Quoted By: >>12592608

>>12592571
Because they can't draw flies to shit and the people who actually got inspired by the draws they weren't dimeless enough to enter the wrestling business

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 11:56:19 No.12592578 Report

Quoted By: >>12597267

>>12592571
Because they paved the way to modern wrestling

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 12:01:31 No.12592600 Report

Quoted By: >>12592625 >>12592899

>>12592571
Because
a) generations change.
>People influenced by Hogan and Savage were wrestling in the 2000s.
b) harder to emulate
>Gotta be buff, have the right facials, manly voice, high test, not be a midget, have an actual fucking promo.

Most people wrestling now didn't grow up with 80s WWF/WCW.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 12:02:53 No.12592605 Report

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>>12592571
You're probably inspired by watching "actual draws", why aren't you wrestling on national TV?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 12:03:11 No.12592608 Report

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>>12592575
Bit of this, too. If you actually socialize, you run into out there characters and huge dudes who could be wrestlers, but they don't respect wrestling kek.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 12:07:31 No.12592625 Report

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>>12592600
WCW, Rock and Austin. The 80s template was still there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 12:43:46 No.12592752 Report

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>>12592571
Need actual charisma to be a draw. Most today don't have it. Most champions today don't even have it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 13:21:58 No.12592899 Report

Quoted By: >>12595902

>>12592571
Because people are always told to hate success
>>12592600
How come generational changes only really start in the 1920's going onward?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 16:34:46 No.12593994 Report

Quoted By: >>12594049 >>12595802 >>12596521

>>12592571
These two weren't good in the ring that's why

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 16:42:24 No.12594049 Report

Quoted By: >>12594059

>>12592571
Because they think Shawn and Bret are easier to emulate. You can't just grow charisma, talent, and bodies like Hogan and Savage but anybody can do some technical spots and throw a few superkicks, right? Except they fail to pick up on everything that made Shawn and Bret good so they can't even emulate them correctly.

>>12593994
You're right. They weren't good in the ring. They were two of the greatest in-ring talents to ever live. The word "good" is too understated to describe their skills.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 16:44:01 No.12594059 Report

Quoted By: >>12594332 >>12595292 >>12595321

>>12594049
>They were two of the greatest in-ring talents to ever live

Zero five star matches amongst both of them btw

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 16:44:54 No.12594066 Report

Quoted By: >>12595902

>>12592571
liz looks so fucking hot here, her facial expression, hair, outfit, 80s were peak aesthetics for women

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Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 16:49:11 No.12594101 Report

Quoted By: >>12595313

>>12592571
>racists on roids not being the model to follow
damn, what could the answer ever be?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 17:18:43 No.12594307 Report

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>>12592571
Because “They’re literally me!”

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 17:22:18 No.12594332 Report

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>>12594059
>Zero five star matches amongst both of them btw
Meltzer hates talent and dimes. He'd never give 5 stars to anybody who's actually good at the art of pro wrestling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 19:07:28 No.12595292 Report

Quoted By: >>12595655 >>12595822

>>12594059
Are any of the people with 5 star matches actual draws? Charisma puts buts in seats. You don't even need to be jacked like Hogan and Macho Man as Flair, Piper and Dusty were all draws.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 19:09:30 No.12595313 Report

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>>12594101
You're a chud. That's the answer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 19:10:22 No.12595321 Report

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>>12594059
>this one guy doesn't like them so uhh

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 19:38:21 No.12595556 Report

Quoted By: >>12595867

>>12592571
Because not everyone is 6”5+ & genetic freaks with natural charisma coming out of their ass. Why should average looking people be inspired by something they could never be?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 19:39:13 No.12595562 Report

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>Why is everyone inspired by actual good wrestlers instead of ugly roid monkeys that wrestled in slow motion

You tell me OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 19:46:59 No.12595655 Report

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>>12595292
flair

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 20:01:36 No.12595802 Report

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>>12593994
savage was legitimately a great wrestler, that's why they used him to carry shitters like ultimate warrior

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 20:04:13 No.12595822 Report

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>>12595292
yes, tanahashi was such a draw he single-handedly saved NJPW from bankruptcy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 20:09:55 No.12595867 Report

Quoted By: >>12596058

>>12595556
Macho and Hogan were nutured and schooled, their really early stuff is not dimes. The industry and secret wrestling code of hard knocks that created them no longer exists. You can see that the very last of the territories' students, Austin and Rock were the very last guys who could do it. Dwayne grew up around the territory guys and Austin came up with the very last of them, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 20:12:01 No.12595887 Report

Quoted By: >>12595914

>>12592571
Dolph Ziggler, who was inspired by Shawn, is not a draw and he still made millions of dollars over a twenty year long career. It's about knowing your role and getting paid as long as possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 20:13:49 No.12595902 Report

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>>12592899
>How come generational changes only really start in the 1920's going onward?
Social upheaval, whether planned or not. Every decade after the radio/tv era was different to the last.
>>12594066
It's classy carny, without all the tattoos and alt-punk trailor trash gimmicks you get now. I stand by her being hotter in 98, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 20:14:06 No.12595907 Report

Quoted By: >>12596116 >>12597295

>all the trannies in here simping for Savage and Hogan
lmfao Roman outdraws them both

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 20:14:33 No.12595914 Report

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>>12595887
Dolph Ziggler would of been a bigger draw if he kept the shorts and zigzag with no super kick & definitely no tuning up the fucking band I don’t care what anyone says
There’s a difference between inspiration & bootlegging

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 20:29:08 No.12596058 Report

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>>12595867
Austin and Rock weren't the last of the territories' students at all. That makes no sense and is completely ahistorical. Territory guys were training students well after Austin retired. Dusty's son is the biggest babyface in the industry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 20:34:47 No.12596116 Report

Quoted By: >>12596143

>>12595907
What is inflation?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 20:38:21 No.12596143 Report

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>>12596116
Something taken into account when WWE does its quarterlies. Which if they messed up they could face lawsuits from the shareholders. Which lately announce record profits with Roman on top. Try harder hulktranny

Fair-minded anon !!Ht/oMGOvLa3

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Fair-minded anon !!Ht/oMGOvLa3 Sun 10 Dec 2023 20:49:02 No.12596212 Report

Quoted By: >>12596241

>what? you're telling me that wrestling fans are not fans of making money, but instead fans of pro wrestling?
>what a bunch of marks!
If you take a step back and look at this opinion objectively, the drawfag comes across like a fucking insane person.

Wrestling fans like wrestling. There's only a very small, very autistic subset of wrestling fans that do not enjoying wrestling whatsoever but, for some reason, get off on how much money a wrestler makes, or how many tickets they sell.
It's objectively bizarre to have these opinions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 20:52:28 No.12596241 Report

Quoted By: >>12596252 >>12596275 >>12596313

>>12596212
Drawing is the only thing that matters in this business Fair minded tranny. Roman outdraws Savage and Hulk so troons like you can seethe about it you stupid bitch

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Fair-minded anon !!Ht/oMGOvLa3 Sun 10 Dec 2023 20:53:39 No.12596252 Report

Quoted By: >>12596291

>>12596241
>*reads your post*
Yep, definitely a well-adjusted and normal human being right here. Absolutely.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 20:55:34 No.12596268 Report

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>>12592571
It's hard to emulate the natural talent and charisma of someone like Macho Man and it's hard to emulate the soulless corporate backing Hogan got from Vince, so all you're left with is trying to put a good show like Bret and Shawn did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 20:55:56 No.12596275 Report

Quoted By: >>12596291

>>12596241
>Drawing is the only thing that matters in this business
You're not "in the business," though.

You're a fan.

How much money the business makes is completely irrelevant to the fan experience.

So, to answer OP's question, you fucking idiot:
>People copy wrestlers instead of "draws" because they're fucking fans of wrestling and not weirdos who jerk off to business ledgers
There you go

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 20:58:44 No.12596291 Report

Quoted By: >>12596422

>>12596252
You literally cut your dick off lol
>>12596275
Nice Mark opinions. I own WWE stock, I am in fact in the business. Thanks for helping pay my bills you faggot mark lmfao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 21:01:36 No.12596313 Report

Quoted By: >>12596345

>>12596241
>Roman outdraws Hulk
bwahahahahahahahahaha. Hulk did drew 33 million viewers on tv on one night.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 21:04:56 No.12596345 Report

Quoted By: >>12596853

>>12596313
That's cute. Lemme know when Hulk actually draws more money than Roman though you seething troon

Fair-minded anon !!Ht/oMGOvLa3

Fair-minded anon !!Ht/oMGOvLa3 Sun 10 Dec 2023 21:13:44 No.12596422 Report

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>>12596291
>but I own 1 share of TKO stock
That does not mean you're in the business, retard. You're still just a grubby fan like the rest of us.

The difference is that you're so insecure about liking wrestling when it isn't popular that you cope through drawfag autism and that we just enjoy wrestling.
Stay mad bitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 21:23:09 No.12596521 Report

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>>12593994
This

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Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 22:02:50 No.12596853 Report

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>>12596345
literally retarded

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Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 22:08:12 No.12596896 Report

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>"But Shawn and Bret are good wrestlers!"

That's nice dear. They never penetrated pop culture, they never got anyone into wrestling. I love Bret, but in the grand scheme of things, guy is a nobody. Hogan, Macho Man, Rock, Austin, Flair, Cena, Warrior and Piper all managed to make that impact on the grander scale.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 22:40:30 No.12597137 Report

Quoted By: >>12597285

Smells like Bretcope. anyone who is "inspired" by him is a shitter like Dax

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Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 22:57:19 No.12597267 Report

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>>12592578
Second post best post

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Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 22:58:56 No.12597285 Report

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>>12597137
>Bret Hart's influence is what's wrong with modern wrestling
Come again?

Big Young Bucks fan, are ya?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2023 22:59:46 No.12597295 Report

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>>12595907
Roman has absolutely no personality

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