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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 16:02:53 No.12707003 View View Reply Original Report

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>Rossy Ogawa (Stardom) on NXT Japan: *Laughter* "If you wanna try it, try it. You're going to lose."
KWAB! E-drones BTFO! AEW x STARDOM alliance imminent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BakFRRjkOiY

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 19:03:57 No.12708311 Report

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>>12707003
It's over

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 19:05:20 No.12708320 Report

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>>12707003
Isn't Stardom getting outdrawn by TJPW and Choco Pro? Like last time I checked they were getting <150 people at their shows.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 19:16:11 No.12708409 Report

Quoted By: >>12708674

Lose what, exactly? NJPW routinely does shows in front of like 1500 fans in a high school gym.

https://www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=374393

Okada and Ospreay both on the show and drew less than 800 fans. So the argument is that WWE couldn't draw 800 fans in Japan? Help me out here.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 19:32:40 No.12708524 Report

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i like that wwe jp have unironically a decent tv audience for the shows.
the fact even japanese magazines now have wwe wrestlers in them help too

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 19:33:38 No.12708532 Report

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no one cares about nxt

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 19:43:36 No.12708631 Report

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>>12707003
Our Queen Emi Sakura has put the knife into the E-Drones kek. You do love to see it!

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 19:43:59 No.12708636 Report

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214 fans

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 19:45:29 No.12708648 Report

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>>12708524
abema isn't even tv retard

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 19:49:13 No.12708674 Report

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Bitchtits didn't like this post one bit.
>>12708320
>Isn't Stardom getting outdrawn by TJPW and Choco Pro?
No.

Top selling promotions in November

NJPW: 18213 fans
AJPW: 8624
Dragon Gate: 7758
DDT: 6633
Stardom: 6213
Noah: 3231
TJPW: 1750
BJW: 1680

Top selling promotions in 2023

NJPW: 250150/243581* fans
Noah: 100814+/94245+*
Stardom: 90251+
Dragon Gate: 78906+
AJPW: 57196+/50637+*
DDT: 38164+
BJW: 26811+
TJPW: 23109+

As you can see Stardom is the 3rd most popular promotion in Japan.
>>12708409
>Road To
>Tag League
Bad faith and shows how out of touch and uneducated you are. This is the equivalent of a WWE house show. Idiot.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 19:49:54 No.12708684 Report

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>>12708631
>>12708532

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 19:52:41 No.12708716 Report

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>>12708684
>no one cares about nxt
Especially the Japanese people! THough Banana Nose and HBGAY seem to care an awful lot about NXT and Japan. THey can't stop talking about it even though no0 one knows or cares about WWE. THey get massively outdrawn by EVIL and SANADA lmao!

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 19:56:19 No.12708756 Report

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>>12708674
>This is the equivalent of a WWE house show. Idiot.
First of all we don't sign our posts here. Secondly lettuce see what the last few WWE house shows look like
https://www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=376292
>3,379
https://www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=376291
>4,627
https://www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=376584
>2,485
https://www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=376288
>3,460
https://www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=376265
>3,297
https://www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=376287
>3,648

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 20:01:48 No.12708800 Report

Quoted By: >>12708816 >>12709750

Rossy shouldn't make fun of WWE, he followed their example and put the belt on an old hag and killed his company. Stardom is just E-Divas-lite now that they're pushing 40 year olds.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 20:02:50 No.12708811 Report

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>>12708320
Stardom sold more tickets in 2023 than all the other joshi feds combined

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 20:04:00 No.12708816 Report

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>>12708800
>put the belt on an old hag
imagine being such a pedo that you think 31 years old is old

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 20:09:46 No.12708864 Report

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>>12708756
>not even one show is close to double digits
KWAB! What an ice cold company!

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 20:20:44 No.12708962 Report

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>>12708811
based

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 20:22:45 No.12708975 Report

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>>12708811
That says more about the state of pro wrestling in Japan than it does the health of Stardom.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 20:32:35 No.12709072 Report

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>>12707003
holy shit

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 20:37:57 No.12709127 Report

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>>12707003
top kek, they're literally laughing at Paul

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 20:55:46 No.12709285 Report

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>>12709127
LMAO! Paul has been a joke in Japan for decades!
>When Kojima held the Triple Crown & IWGP title, he met HHH and there was a hilarious exchange. Kojima greeted Flair & HHH and was real nice. Flair kind of knew who Kojima was from working New Japan but didn't know how big he was at the time. HHH had no idea and made some joke about who is this guy. Kojima knew English and knew HHH was acting like he didn't know who he was and said in Japanese to the reporters, "Any of you know the guy in the big nose who is Ric Flair's security guard?" and they all cracked up.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 20:56:23 No.12709290 Report

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>>12708320
imagine how low nxt japan would have drawn. would have been brutal.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 21:43:31 No.12709655 Report

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ITT: Faggots who are going to feel sorry in the next five years when WWE fully integrates themselves inside the top three promotions in Japan

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 21:45:58 No.12709677 Report

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>>12709655
I hope you're man enough to admit that you're wrong when this doesn't happen. Tony's relationship with New Japan and Bushiroad has never been stronger. Tony pays their gajin big money and in exchange he lets them work their big shows.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 21:52:36 No.12709750 Report

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>>12708800
The next World of Stardom champion is either going to be 21 years old or 28 years old.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 21:54:21 No.12709769 Report

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>>12709750
>21 years old
Old hags. I want to see some fresh young pussy sawdust themselves.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 22:46:21 No.12710335 Report

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fuck off bitchtits you boring bastard

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 22:53:21 No.12710423 Report

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>>12708524
WWE shows on Abema get outdrawn by NJPW shows regularly
Smackdown only gets like 200k at best, while an EVIL vs SANADA re-run got 1.1m views

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 23:03:16 No.12710521 Report

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>>12707003
NO NO NO E-BROS OUR NARRATIVE!!!!!!!!

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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 23:41:41 No.12710920 Report

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>>12710423
they're down quite a bit from that
that was around their debut

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 00:35:48 No.12711424 Report

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>>12707003
Laugh it up, little jap. If you push the wrong buttons, Triple H will bury your pissant bingo hall promotion six feet under with the snap of his fingers, like Thanos. Tony learned he can't fuck with the big dog in wrestling, pretty soon the japs will too.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 00:38:42 No.12711445 Report

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>>12708524
>the fact even japanese magazines now have wwe wrestlers in them help too
They have for decades and WWE is still a joke.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 02:12:09 No.12712262 Report

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>>12707003
very interesting indeed

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 02:19:21 No.12712319 Report

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>>12708756
>>12708864
>itt: anons discover what loss leaders are

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 02:23:07 No.12712348 Report

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>>12712319
huh?

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 02:25:56 No.12712367 Report

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>>12708756
>lettuce

You're not fooling anyone, Bitchtits.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 02:26:59 No.12712374 Report

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>>12711424
Thanos is the bad guy dimwit. Only thing Paul is snapping is his heart hahaha

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 02:44:17 No.12712483 Report

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>>12708674
TJPW does almost no shows, STARDOM does dozens
and to top it off they inflate attendance numbers

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 02:46:10 No.12712498 Report

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>>12712483
>and to top it off they inflate attendance numbers
This is not true anymore. They give legit numbers now. If they were still giving fake numbers they never would have reported 114.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 02:48:01 No.12712509 Report

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>>12708674
Even AEW house shows draw more than 800 people, you stupid fucking idiot.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 02:48:24 No.12712513 Report

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>>12707003
Is this the guy that wasted money on Mercedes and couldn't afford to keep Kairi?

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 02:52:27 No.12712538 Report

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>>12712509
AEW doesn't do house shows.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 02:53:02 No.12712542 Report

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>>12712513
Neither were drawing well enough to justify them and he cut both

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 02:54:38 No.12712552 Report

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>>12710423
Japanese audiences not wanting to watch English language wrestling has nothing to do with the obvious potential for a Japanese language WWE brand to completely overtake the wrestling scene over there. The WWE style would actually draw in new fans

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 02:55:04 No.12712557 Report

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this nigga just ran a show in front of 120 people and he's saying shit like this? lmao

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 02:55:05 No.12712559 Report

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>>12712542
Mercedes literally doubled subs to NJPW World and drew New Japan's two biggest house ever on the west coast.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 02:55:25 No.12712563 Report

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>>12710423
If WWE started a promotion in Japan, it wouldn't be 95% White/Black/Latino talents, they would scoop up all the Nihon free agents they could find and start there. WWE is also signing/developing a lot of talents specifically in/from college athletics, so of all the talents who COULD learn a foreign language, that would be them.

The most ironic thing of all: if WWE Japan put up numbers comparable to AEW - sagging ratings, half-empty buildings, losing tens of millions yearly - you'd see a non-stop parade of gloating, telling them to quit, telling them it obviously isn't working, etc. But WWE won't launch unless and until they're certain it'd be successful.

NJPW and Stardom better pray WWE doesn't launch in Japan. The only thing that can stop them is politics and dirty tricks. On a pure competitive basis, WWE would make money hand over fist in Japan.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 02:56:51 No.12712576 Report

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>>12712557
>this nigga just ran a show in front of 120 people
It was actually 114 fans - 50 comps so only 60 people paid. Not his fault though because it was really cold that day and it is all Bushiroad's problem.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 02:57:53 No.12712584 Report

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>>12712559
Not sure if that sub number was accurate but a lot of that was Kenny vs Will too, and that goes to show you how much she was getting paid

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 03:00:29 No.12712606 Report

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>>12712538
https://www.cagematch.net/?id=8&nr=2287&page=4&search=House --- 5 this year. Lowest reported attendance of 1,872.

No Bucks, no Omega, no MJF, Punk, Hangman, Moxley, no ex-World Champions period. 2 hour Rampage looking ass show drew 2x more people than Okada and Ospreay, but bitchface nujamal fans want to get an attitude. They can eat shit.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 03:01:06 No.12712613 Report

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>>12712563
AEW was #1 on cable last week and top 5 this week. And boy, you must have not paid any close attention to NXT UK at all huh (no one did can't blame you)

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 03:06:35 No.12712642 Report

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>>12712563
Look how hard NXT UK tanked and the UK are some of the biggest WWE marks on the planet, they have nothing to start from in Japan.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 03:09:25 No.12712671 Report

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>>12712559
Two shows with a combined 5000 fans. Where do we back up the Brinks truck to? It's quite a bit of money, probably too much for her residence. Does she have perhaps a warehouse somewhere?

https://www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=362805
https://www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=354783
https://longbeachstate.com/sports/2018/8/1/_trads_facilityrecords_html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Jose_Civic

You make it sound as if Horsedes bumped sales from 5500 to 11000. The reality is 2900 at Walter Pyramid is literally a half empty building. San Jose Civic Center was about 2/3 full, which is better...but that's still 2100 fans. Not 8100.

Call me when NJPW has to switch to a bigger building to accommodate THOUSANDS of extra fans plus parking for all the horse trailers.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 03:11:07 No.12712685 Report

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>>12712613
No it wasn't faggot, you didn't even include all the descriptors (specific night, original programming only, within a certain time slot, non-news programming, total viewers vs rating). Try again retard.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 03:17:23 No.12712722 Report

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>>12712685
cope bitch lmao

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 03:23:33 No.12712764 Report

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>>12712642
And yet there's no powerhouse UK promotion there to pick up the pieces. RevPro is running events in 800 seat venues and has no national/worldwide TV deals. If I had to guess, WWE only did NXT UK because people who speak English can translate to a global audience, so if you have to lose a few million to find talents like Gunther (who are now making you millions), you take that chance

Japan, you have multiple promotions with national/streaming TV deals, drawing 10k+ for major events, and so on. Just siphoning off a few thousand per week is enough to be worth it to poach and train Japanese talents (Giulia? Poi? Eel?) for eventual transition to the U.S.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 03:24:39 No.12712775 Report

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>>12712722
I'm the richest person in the world

You can't disagree with that statement without contradicting yourself, can you? Pussy.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 03:27:56 No.12712809 Report

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>>12712775
that's an argument a 10 year old would make and you're really proud of it too aren't ya

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 03:30:12 No.12712831 Report

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>>12707003
Literally nobody outside this board knows or cares what the fuck this thread is even about and all of you faggots should shoot kys

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 03:39:35 No.12712894 Report

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>>12712831
merry christmas, bitchtits.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 04:13:22 No.12713099 Report

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>>12712764
That’s what’s so bad about NXT UK, there is no national promotion to compete with and they still shit the bed. 72,000 went to Wembley for AEW and they didn’t get any of them.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 04:16:59 No.12713124 Report

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>>12712764
>lose a few million to find talents like Gunther
They didn't need to lose anything at all to discover Walter. They signed one of the best indie wrestlers who had plenty of buzz at that point and existing connections to people already in the company and made him hit the gym to look the way they wanted him to. That was a good investment. He's great. What wasn't a good investment was the obsessive hoarding of every halfway decent indie guy with an obvious ceiling and what certainly isn't a good investment is the idea of replicating this on the other side of the world where no one gives a fuck about your company.
I actually follow a lot of Japanese promotions and I straight up don't see more than a handful of wrestlers who exist in that sweet spot where they are young enough to be worth the investment and actually marketable enough to the WWE audience to have a ceiling beyond jobbing in a warehouse with a comedy gimmick. And if they want to sign Giulia they will just sign her. Like, who else is out there other than the upper tier of Stardom bimbos? They had Sareee who outworks most of those girls and couldn't do jack shit with her. Io Shirai is lightning in a bottle. I can say with confidence that no WWE fan that isn't already watching Japanese wrestling is going to give a shit about anyone currently wrestling in Japan other than maybe Okada himself, aging and sawdusted and coming in at the same age Nakamura was when he jumped and with significantly diminished internet hype from what Nak had. Really, if you want to develop Japanese talent you go and scout for hot Japanese gymnasts and train them from the ground up in fucking Florida like everyone else they've struck gold with in the last 2 years. Not worth taking a chance on fucking Unagi Sayaka.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 04:31:42 No.12713201 Report

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>>12713124
eel bros..

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 05:43:25 No.12713591 Report

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>>12713201
Who is Eel?

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 05:51:00 No.12713623 Report

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>>12707003
>joshipedos still think anyone cares about their groomer feds
Grim

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 06:52:42 No.12713843 Report

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>>12707003
insanely based

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 10:12:55 No.12714472 Report

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>>12713623
It's not even actual Josifags, it's just Pigtranny mad that AEW got canceled so xe's shitting up the thread

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