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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:25:54 No.13121860 View View Reply Original Report

Forbidden Door 3 2024
AEW X NJPW X CMLL

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:29:20 No.13121940 Report

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B A S A D O

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:30:51 No.13121976 Report

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>>13121860
Konnan punching at air right now

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:31:32 No.13121996 Report

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>>13121860
don't watch cmll but give me their top 5 guys there so I can get an idea of what to expect

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:32:01 No.13122006 Report

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>>13121860
Wow he jobs out the AAA champion every week and now fucks over AAA after all these years because Konnan is honest about how bad aew is.
Kek

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:32:12 No.13122012 Report

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>Tiny hypes up 2024 as being their next big year
>it's fucking SIN CARA

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:34:02 No.13122042 Report

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>>13121860
Is Tony gonna start snatching up their stars too?

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:34:50 No.13122057 Report

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>>13121860
Lucha is unironically terrible. It's just flippy gymnastics and the guys all have zero character (apart from maybe Penta & Phenix cos they have been in America a long time)

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:35:17 No.13122068 Report

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>>13121996
CMLL has been in the middle for years after the owner died and there was a big drama where all the top stars left, besides the ones with pull with the new booker or something.
The top guys are all really old dudes like Ultimo Guerrero, Volador jr , Mistico, Rey Hechicero. All the top young guys left; Dragon Lee, Rush etc.
Titan is good, Barbaro Cavernario is good, the midgets are based. They have a few new young guys that I haven't seen. But CMLL is literally 2/3 falls trips matches that are the same every time for most of every show and they just take turns doing dives most of the time.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:35:19 No.13122069 Report

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>>13122042
only stephanie

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:35:34 No.13122077 Report

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>>13121860
...why does Tony waste so much tv time on people not under contract?

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:36:36 No.13122101 Report

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>>13122068
>The top guys are all really old dudes like Ultimo Guerrero, Volador jr , Mistico, Rey Hechicero. All the top young guys left; Dragon Lee, Rush etc.
hard to get excited then

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:40:59 No.13122194 Report

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>>13122101
Why would you ever get excited after seeing what Tony does to his partner promotions? He drops them onto TV with no hype or build and jobs then out.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:41:55 No.13122216 Report

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>>13122194
good morning sir

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:46:47 No.13122312 Report

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>>13122194
>nobody knows these people
>tony introduces them on tv ahead of the ppv
>no why is tony just putting them on tv!!!!

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:47:37 No.13122330 Report

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>>13121860
oh god, I can't wait to see more of these incredible athletes

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:49:15 No.13122360 Report

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>>13121860
There was talk of an interesting location for FD3
Arena Mexico would fit the bill

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:49:58 No.13122372 Report

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>>13121860
>remember when dimeless AAA shitters and dimeless NJPW shitters came to AEW and stank up the ratings?
>well get ready, because we're about to have dimeless CMLL shitters next!
Wow I can't wait to avoid watching this

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:50:26 No.13122382 Report

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>>13122330
ill enjoy luchakino thanks

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:51:59 No.13122405 Report

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>>13122360
You’re talking about Zarian right? The way he said it made me think it’d be in Japan this year but I think Arena Mexico would be the better choice if they’re getting CMLL involved

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:52:51 No.13122424 Report

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>>13122382
I'm sure you do

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:53:55 No.13122440 Report

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>>13122424
yeah enjoy your underwater scripted boring slop

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:53:57 No.13122442 Report

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>>13122312
What are you talking about?
The entire history of Tony booking his partner promotion talent has been him dropping them into random matches and beating them immediately.
Kojima, Takeshita, Vikingo every week.
Shibata was one of the most renowned Japanese talents of the past two decades and Tony got his in ring return from brain removal surgery and had him lose clean to Orange Cassidy.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:55:16 No.13122456 Report

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>>13122382
>just stands there waiting to catch the jumping bean doing gymnastics
yawn

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:55:34 No.13122460 Report

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>>13122405
Japan is tough logistically for PPV

>>13122442
Wrestling OC and losing was Shibata's idea, he's not close to 100% at all and just wants to take it easy.

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ProWresBlog !1JPtDnh8WA Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:55:58 No.13122463 Report

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Why? Nobody knows these people and they already have their own army of luchadores already who they barely use.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:56:35 No.13122472 Report

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>>13122456
ok fuck off then faggot, no one cares
go watch pete dunn vs austin theory again or some gay shit

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:57:39 No.13122489 Report

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>>13122382
>luchakino
Hey anon, I think you meant to post a webm of Lucha Underground and accidentally posted a webm of a gay retard with exploding intestines vs a circus midget instead

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:58:39 No.13122501 Report

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>>13122463
The CMLL guys are generally better than most luchadores. More crisp for sure.

>>13122489
vince wont shit on you tranny

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 03:58:55 No.13122505 Report

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>>13122460
>Wrestling OC and losing was Shibata's idea, he's not close to 100% at all and just wants to take it easy
Says who? You?
And Shibata isn't the booker anyway. Why would you waste the return of a beloved main event star from NJPW by having him lose to the lower card comedy guy with no build? It's fucking retarded. You ginired all of the other points too. Takeshita was the top guy in DDT and Tony booked him as a rookie who couldn't beat anyone. Vikingo is AAA world champion and Tony jobs him out constantly.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 04:00:46 No.13122534 Report

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>>13121976
Shouldn't have spent years burying aew on his shitty podcast. Also shouldn't have made AAA so shit. Shoot heat +little to offer (basically just vikingo, who seems to take bookings independently anyway) = being told to fuck off

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 04:01:01 No.13122535 Report

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>>13122501
>mention Lucha Underground
>for some reason this triggers you to start ranting about Vince McMahon
Your mind is truly gone, pigwheels

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 04:01:06 No.13122538 Report

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>>13122505
Because he's fucked up and can't go like he used to. He's just there to be a NJ dad type and chill.
Take wasn't signed at that time
Vikingo beat Kenny in Mexico and doesn't really lose that much or eat pins. Not signed either but he keeps showing up for work in one off matches so he gets them.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 04:02:07 No.13122547 Report

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>>13122535
yeah it's easy to tell when a poster has an 80 iq kid

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 04:02:53 No.13122560 Report

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>>13122456
That's all wrestling you tard.
>Here let me just sit passively and let you 'work' my arm/leg for the heat

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 04:04:02 No.13122581 Report

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>>13122538
>Because he's fucked up and can't go like he used to. He's just there to be a NJ dad type and chill.
How does that justify beating him with a comedy character in his first match? It doesn't.
>Take wasn't signed at that time
Yes, because he's an example of Tony booking partner promotion stars as jobbers. That's the discussion you fucking moron.
>Vikingo beat Kenny in Mexico and doesn't really lose that much or eat pins. Not signed either but he keeps showing up for work in one off matches so he gets them.
He won a match in AAA, that's not AEW. He loses in AEW constantly. He walks out with the biggest title in AAA to compete for a shot at the lower card title and lose.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 04:04:19 No.13122583 Report

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>>13121860
Feelsgoodman 2024 getting based

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 04:09:57 No.13122691 Report

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>>13122581
>How does that justify beating him with a comedy character in his first match? It doesn't.
Most people don't see him that way

Agree with you on Take, but everyone kept wanting to work with him. Still should have had some wins though.

Vikingo keeps showing up when he doesn't have to so he's fine with the booking. He's not getting a big push since the AAA relationship is spotty and he's part time.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 04:11:41 No.13122717 Report

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El Titan?

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 04:50:51 No.13123311 Report

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vaquer or we riot

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 04:53:25 No.13123353 Report

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Dosne't CMLL pay fuck all?
like if you fuck up they take away your NJPW booking since Fantastica Mania is the best pay day they get.
If NJPW can't keep talent then CMLL isi also gonna get raided to shti int he next 2 years all for 700k viewers.

>>13122717
Naito called him and told him not to go

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 04:54:14 No.13123369 Report

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 05:14:46 No.13123745 Report

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>>13121996
La Faccion Ingobernable are CMLL alums, plus lots of top New Japan stars like Tanahashi, Nakamura, Okada, Naito, EVIL & Hiromu went on excursion there.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 05:15:46 No.13123762 Report

Quoted By: >>13128340

>>13122012
>AIslop

Mistico has redeemed himself now that he's outside the slopshop. Many such cases.

>>13122077
No parejas?

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 05:15:51 No.13123766 Report

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>Forbidden Door 3 2024
The name kinda loses all fucking meaning after a while.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 05:17:01 No.13123782 Report

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>>13122442
>>13122505
>>13122581
That was like Shibata's 3rd match since his injury falsefan.

>lower card
>Orange

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 05:18:15 No.13123811 Report

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>>13123353
Naito respects his All Elite PAREJAS I'm afraid, he'll be defending his title in front of 12K+ screaming partnershipmaniacs

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 06:05:05 No.13124410 Report

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CMLL expert here

I can answer any questions (you) have about the company and the talent

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 06:07:03 No.13124427 Report

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Literal whos

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 06:09:35 No.13124447 Report

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The stars are all here

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 07:55:07 No.13125394 Report

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>>13121860
hmmm

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 08:10:08 No.13125488 Report

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>>13122405
Tony has, at least in the past, been adamant that Forbidden Door is an American PPV brand. He didn't rule out doing something in Japan, but it would be under a different name. The 14 hour time difference between Japan and east coast US makes it hard to find a good time. The 5 hours between Bongland and EST isn't that bad.

>>13122505
>Take booked as a rookie
He was in AEW on an excursion at that point, and he got to work with all the top guys in the company. That's literally the best case scenario.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 08:11:15 No.13125494 Report

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>>13121860
I'm sure this one will go better than the ones with check notes...

>OWE
>AAA
>DDT
>TJPW
>Impact

Did I miss anyone?

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 08:14:01 No.13125518 Report

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>>13125494
itll actually go better since a flight from mexico to usa is a few hours.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 08:15:22 No.13125526 Report

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>>13125488
He did one in Canada, so Arena Mexico next

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 08:17:08 No.13125536 Report

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>>13125518
CMLL is a much more professional promotion than AAA too.
Impact was just a few one offs.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 08:17:37 No.13125537 Report

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>>13125526
America as in the continent, but yeah Arena Mexico would certainly work. The question is would they want to take a Mexican gate for a big show?

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 08:19:06 No.13125548 Report

Quoted By: >>13125554

>>13125518
You still need visas.
AEW still uses AAA wrestlers.
Some AEW wrestlers have beef with AAA wrestlers.

Have fun

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 08:19:13 No.13125550 Report

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Elite Lords... we simply can't stop winning this year

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 08:20:19 No.13125554 Report

Quoted By: >>13128497

>>13125548
CMLL will be very clear about no cross-polination between CMLL and AAA guys, the guys that are primarily AEW guys? Who knows, maybe in time they'll be chill, but from what I know about CMLL they tend to play things slow, and only implode occasionally, as a treat. But then it gets better.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 08:20:55 No.13125557 Report

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>>13125537
You can take a haircut for a mid gate, the crowd would be insane and it'd probably be packed. Novelty can pay off if it's done right and makes a memorable moment.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 08:26:37 No.13125590 Report

Quoted By: >>13125619

>>13125557
Forbidden Door has been a strong gate typically, and the big injection of dollars into New Japan is part of why the show is a big deal on their end, but you do have a point about novelty. And the visual would be striking.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 08:27:48 No.13125596 Report

Quoted By: >>13125599

CMLL luchadors aren't used to work the hardcam tho

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 08:28:13 No.13125599 Report

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>>13125596
fuck off dronie

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 08:30:49 No.13125612 Report

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>>13122360
>>13122405
did he say location? i thought he said something "new" for fd. he was asked yesterday if it was in japan or mexico and he said no.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 08:31:44 No.13125619 Report

Quoted By: >>13125664

>>13125590
They've gotten some good gates there. You could just give NJPW a better split maybe. If you could get fly ins for a bigger price that would help a lot.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 08:35:33 No.13125653 Report

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>>13125612
itll be aew x njpw x cmll in like cali or texas since they have a large hispanic presence there. would be cool if stardom finally sends some joshi.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 08:36:29 No.13125664 Report

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>>13125619
Yeah I don't hate the idea, I just feel like the business side of things would require some convincing. Either way, Tony! Whoever the CMLL booker is! Gedo! Give me a PPV that's just Los Ingobernables vs The World. You cowards.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 08:38:37 No.13125677 Report

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>>13121860
>this will get us a milly
Fucking hell, no one gives a shit about these spics

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 08:47:15 No.13125730 Report

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>faggots talking shit about my boy

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 08:47:32 No.13125732 Report

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>>13125677
slopdown got cancelled

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 08:50:08 No.13125750 Report

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>>13121860
>3 Goyslop Feds !
WWE x AJPW x AAA
the real partnership

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 08:57:49 No.13125814 Report

Quoted By: >>13128390

>>13122489
>>13122535
>piggiE pretends they like LU
>Starts oiking when called out
classic BBC cuck loving pig

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 09:13:18 No.13125915 Report

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this looks like 2 matches, so not really a crossover.

Mistico vs Volador
Mascara Dorada vs Hechicero

Also explains Meltzer giving that Dorada vs Templario match 5 stars

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 09:55:32 No.13126180 Report

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>>13122068
look at this guy, talking as if he knew anything

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 10:01:25 No.13126213 Report

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The real invisible hand of pro wrestling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 10:11:07 No.13126254 Report

Quoted By: >>13127969

>>13126180
yeah, it's embarrassing

per example, Ultimo Guerrero was the 21st most used wrestler last year

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 10:12:17 No.13126261 Report

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cripple trying to get himself over with the Mexicans

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 13:18:15 No.13127277 Report

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all the stars are here

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 13:21:30 No.13127301 Report

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>>13122372
Everyone will be watching the rumble anyway

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 13:44:31 No.13127436 Report

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>>13127301
only 1 shitter bro.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 14:40:21 No.13127932 Report

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>>13122691
A weird way to try to pretend you weren't wrong to begin with.
>>13123782
Second and first real match, first US match and, per the context of what I wrote, first aew match.
Learn English.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 14:42:35 No.13127957 Report

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>>13125488
>Jobbing your partner company's top guy, who is bigger and better than all but 3 of your roster, is the best case scenario
No it's not, and he was still being jobbed out after he signed too. And they still do nothing with him. It's the worst use possible

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 14:44:04 No.13127969 Report

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>>13126180
>>13126254
Severe ESL autism you have, samefag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 14:44:45 No.13127979 Report

Quoted By: >>13128015

>>13121860
Only reason to watch CMLL is the fine as fuck dancing girls.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 14:46:00 No.13127995 Report

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>>13122382
>putting this on free tv
aew is making every single mistake wcw and tna made

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 14:48:09 No.13128015 Report

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>>13127979
Fuck forgot pic related

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 15:09:28 No.13128256 Report

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>>13127995
>le google man vs faggy osmegma is a big deal
Shut the fuck up faggot
>>13128015
>this is "fine as fuck"
You simps are fucking pathetic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 15:10:41 No.13128271 Report

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>>13128015
They look like Mexican meth addicts. And yes the Mexican part is the insult.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 15:15:49 No.13128340 Report

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>>13123762
>Mistico has redeemed himself
Sir, Mistico did not redeem

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 15:21:01 No.13128390 Report

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>>13125814
>still seething about Vince McMahon in a thread that has absolutely nothing to do with him
Vince WILL shit on you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 15:22:33 No.13128407 Report

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>>13121860
>cmll
>stars
must be cloudy because i don't see any

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 15:24:14 No.13128420 Report

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>>13121860
ALL THE STARS! Like Mistico and.... urr

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 15:34:45 No.13128497 Report

Quoted By: >>13129330

>>13125554
>CMLL will be very clear about no cross-polination between CMLL and AAA guys, the guys that are primarily AEW guys? Who knows, maybe in time they'll be chill
What about the Lucha Bros? They did the impossible and worked both AAA & CMLL at the same time. They’re full time AEW guys now too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 16:54:22 No.13129330 Report

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>>13128497
they were the one and only special case for whatever reason

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 18:00:14 No.13130275 Report

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>>13121860
pesos

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 19:25:51 No.13131447 Report

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this will put butts in seats

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 19:46:28 No.13131735 Report

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>>13121860
based

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 19:47:22 No.13131749 Report

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>>13121860
Doesn't this happen all the time already??

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 19:50:06 No.13131784 Report

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>>13131749
No

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 19:56:34 No.13131853 Report

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>>13122068
this. the same routine over and over again, also don't forget about CMLL politics

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 20:11:25 No.13132018 Report

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Would TK have the balls to book a Templario (31, CMLL main eventer) MJewF feud?
Here's a cagematch comment
>The Catholic warrior gimmick is crap
kek

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 21:02:47 No.13132677 Report

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>>13122068
yeah going to the shows and getting drunk is fun even sub AAA mudshows are for different train wreck reasons but i have no idea how people pretend the weekly shows are good and worth sitting down for every week

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 21:36:57 No.13133196 Report

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>>13121860
Windy City is Naito/Mox so this will be Naito/Bryan

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