They're both the quintessential 88/100 talents
Very good but not great at anything.
Now that doesn't mean an 88 can't break through, look at Roman. But an 88 needs a very strong gimic and storyline supporting them to do so.
The only above 88/100 talents in WWE are Sami and I guess KO and Punk.
Is there anyone else? AJ can't really talk, Drew is maybe an 89.
Gunther maybe an 88 due to his promo, but is breaking through like Reigns due to the externals.
