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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 15:24:06 No.14410987 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14411010 >>14411322 >>14411504 >>14412738 >>14412907

>have to send your most over guy (Ospreay) after a midcard belt so your company doesn't look racist having the black champion lose the belt instantly
Swerve is holding AEW hostage.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 15:25:16 No.14410994 Report

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good, i don't want Ospreay winning the world title straight away

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 15:25:54 No.14410997 Report

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ospreay should have been going for a midcard belt instead of okada

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 15:27:15 No.14411010 Report

Quoted By: >>14411013

>>14410987
Will is only 30, I'm good with him having an "Ospreayverse" type role right now.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 15:27:36 No.14411013 Report

Quoted By: >>14411073

>>14411010
"only" 30

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 15:29:41 No.14411027 Report

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The longer he holds the title the more he'll be exposed.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 15:29:53 No.14411029 Report

Quoted By: >>14411502

Ospreay just got there. let him do some stories and then go for the belt. I think it's a mistake for him to get the belt already. It took Cody 3 years into his WWE return to finally win the title. Set up a good heel champion for him to take it from.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 15:35:22 No.14411073 Report

Quoted By: >>14411089 >>14411119 >>14411512

>>14411013
That's nothing in 2024. Trick Williams is 29. Most of the guys at Mania were close to or past 40.
And sports medicine gets better every year.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 15:37:09 No.14411089 Report

Quoted By: >>14411136

>>14411073
and that's why wrestling fucking sucks today. The rock was 32 when he RETIRED, and we all know how dimes he was before then. Pretty much legend tier and returns now and then for a quick angle or match. Now you have overrated midcarders like CAWDY JUST NOW finishing his story and getting a title. JUST NOW. at 39.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 15:41:52 No.14411119 Report

Quoted By: >>14411136 >>14411548

>>14411073
has it always been like this? i felt like guys at the top were younger in the past.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 15:44:44 No.14411136 Report

Quoted By: >>14411157 >>14411241

>>14411089
>>14411119
There is a bad trend now where the top of the cards just feel like it's earned by seniority and climbing the corporate ladder. That's across the board to a degree as wall. The roster should be at war with each other with wrestlers of all kinds crawling to the top. Rookies always eat shit and it's just "let it play out" until they grind for years until they get somewhere. Needs more Rainmaker Shock type moments.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 15:47:13 No.14411157 Report

Quoted By: >>14411189 >>14411277 >>14411303

>>14411136
this is what annoys me about cucky runnels. He took his ball and went home, supposedly made it in jobber promotions, then came back to the wwe and was treated like a huge star because "He deserves it now". FUCKING WHY? Why does this cocksucker deserve anything now? Because he made a name for himself in the bingo halls? for all wwe is concerned he's still fucking stardust.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 15:50:47 No.14411189 Report

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>>14411157
He wasn't treated like a huge star because "he deserves it now". "He deserves it now" BECAUSE he became a huge star. He's over. He sells merch. He draws.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 15:55:15 No.14411223 Report

Quoted By: >>14411277 >>14411306 >>14411341 >>14412883

>>14411189
he draws because wwe won't stop shoving him in the fans' faces. If they pushed fucking otunga as a big time champion and he put in the same effort as cawdy at being marketable he'd be the top merch seller. He doesn't draw shit. In order to see who actually sells merch look at the numbers of people that aren't pushed to the moon. Those are the people that actually sell due to their characters or social media presence. Perfect example being la knight. constantly buried by fucking midcarders yet still a top merch seller. Those are the actual fucking draws. Not some faggot that's shoved in your face as "the guy".

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 15:56:39 No.14411241 Report

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>>14411136
>The roster should be at war with each other with wrestlers of all kinds crawling to the top.
Correct.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 15:58:57 No.14411263 Report

Quoted By: >>14412432

>>14411241
Have Breakker beat Bisexual Undertaker. Have Takeshtia beat Mox.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 16:00:24 No.14411277 Report

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>>14411157
It was a strategic maneuver. Cody is/was simply a pawn. To him, in his world, he's getting paid, and is therefore not being used, but he's just a chess piece. A part of him must know this, but he doesn't really owe the Bucks or AEW his life. He has a wife and kid now. Ultimately, though, he is bait.
>>14411223
This. The machine can make average guys seem like draws.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 16:03:08 No.14411303 Report

Quoted By: >>14411327 >>14411609

>>14411157
You're basically trying to answer the fundamental question of wrestling, "how do you become a draw".
No-one fucking knows. For every Orton there's a Chris Masters, for every Batista there's Ryback or someone who gets stuck with a dancing gimmick.
Even an individual wrestler can go from "literally dead career" to "biggest name in the company" like Cena did.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 16:03:15 No.14411306 Report

Quoted By: >>14411336

>>14411223
Type that without sounding like a deranged lunatic

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 16:03:34 No.14411308 Report

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its ok to admit you're racist
just say you dont like black people and dont enjoy seeing one as champion

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 16:05:10 No.14411322 Report

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>>14410987
Swerve will drop the belt to Cole when MJF returns later this year, MJF vs Cole for the title was the original plan and it still is the plan.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 16:05:49 No.14411327 Report

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>>14411303
orton has ring psychology, masters did not. Orton did some okay character work when he acted like a schizo, masters did not. Literally all masters had was physique. How do you become a draw? a few recognizable moves, so no, doing some 450 630 while jacking off in the air isn't good, theme song, absolutely essential, and finally character work, so promos and psychology alongside an actual personality. while orton is not great on the mic he has god tier psychology and had some personality when he acted like a schizo punting people all over the place.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 16:06:51 No.14411336 Report

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>>14411306
awe sorry did i hurt your fe-fees? literally a cawdy crybaby lmao

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 16:07:03 No.14411341 Report

Quoted By: >>14411356

>>14411223
Even if this deranged rant was accurate, it wouldn't matter. Selling x amount of merch because you were pushed and x amount when you weren't still comes out as x.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 16:08:44 No.14411356 Report

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>>14411341
>muh deranged
this is why wrestling fucking sucks today. because you have mark faggots like you getting offended by a few curse words. At least you are a pussy because you'll never see one. was your life in danger by my paragraph tony?

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 16:15:08 No.14411413 Report

Quoted By: >>14411578

>>14411327
psychology in-ring has nothing to do with being over, because people can get over even if they ignore psychology, or because they get over and then it doesn't hurt them if they do ignore it (eg hogan & osprey with their no-selling), and some people never get over even if their psychology is great (eg people like perry saturn) or don't get over to a high level or beyond a certain small promotion (eg raven or al snow)

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 16:24:12 No.14411502 Report

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>>14411029
>Set up a good heel champion for him to take it from
That's why I say have heel Hangman take the title off of Swerve and then put Ospreay over

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 16:24:24 No.14411504 Report

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>>14410987
It's a fucking retarded decision putting the strap on Swerve lmao

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 16:24:58 No.14411512 Report

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>>14411073
Holy fuck LA Knight is 41?

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 16:28:45 No.14411548 Report

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>>14411119
From their first reign as champion
Roman Reigns was 30 in 2015
John Cena was 28 in 2005
Steve Austin was 34 in 1998
Hulk Hogan was 32 in 1985
Ric Flair was 32 in 1981
Buddy Rogers was 40 in 1961
Lou Thez was 33 in 1949
William Muldoon was 28 in 1880

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 16:31:20 No.14411578 Report

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>>14411413
it has something to do with keeping people hooked once you draw them in with promos, theme song and personality. It is least important of all the traits but it is good to have.
>osprey
over with whom? hardcore smarks that watch aew? he's a literal who, hogan is an icon and his no selling was part of his character.
>perry saturn
moppy was over because it was an actual character.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 16:33:57 No.14411609 Report

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>>14411303
Ryback was making money for WWE. they killed him on purpose and turned him heel because Punk/Cena didn't like him.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 17:46:00 No.14412432 Report

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>>14411263
I would watch this. They would never do either because 1) Mox wouldn't do the job and 2) 41yo Priest is being treated like an up and coming star.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 18:09:32 No.14412703 Report

Quoted By: >>14412844

>Ospreay
>>most over guy

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 18:13:25 No.14412738 Report

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>>14410987
Dave Meltzer is the only person over in AEW

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 18:23:20 No.14412844 Report

Quoted By: >>14412910

>>14412703
yes, by like a mile
it's fine if you want to say he's not over by WWE standards, but he is the most over guy in AEW

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 18:27:09 No.14412883 Report

Quoted By: >>14412940

>>14411223
This is pretty easy to disprove, because WWE have attempted to push multiple guys who failed at drawing Romain Reigns is the perfect example, he had the longest sustained push failure of anyone in the history of the business. He eventually became a draw, but that was only after a drastic change of approach in an unprecedented era.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 18:29:07 No.14412907 Report

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>>14410987
Swerve it just holding it for him until Wembley where he can get the massive UK pop for the win.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 18:29:29 No.14412910 Report

Quoted By: >>14412932

>>14412844
Bong headcanon

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 18:31:12 No.14412932 Report

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>>14412910
who in AEW is more over than him right now lmao

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Anonymous Thu 25 Apr 2024 18:31:36 No.14412940 Report

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>>14412883
that's because romanetty wasn't marketable and the smarks (The most vocal part) hated him. now he's literally the same guy just as a heel and he's among the top sellers. now he's great though apparently

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