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Gunther

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 23:40:26 No.14803208 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14803286 >>14803307 >>14803623 >>14804401 >>14805475 >>14806164 >>14806309 >>14807250 >>14807353 >>14808024 >>14808065

Why do smarks seem to love this fag so much?
>no memorable promos
>no memorable stories
>no character besides.. le ring general!!!!!
>does the same 5 moves but it's bad when Jey Uso does it
I genuinely don't get this guy. Wow he wrestles good!!! So what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 23:43:04 No.14803232 Report

Quoted By: >>14803250 >>14807248

Kill all antismarks

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 23:44:29 No.14803243 Report

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he's a heel so you got worked

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 23:44:30 No.14803244 Report

Quoted By: >>14807256

rocky 4 Drago vibes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 23:45:18 No.14803250 Report

Quoted By: >>14803296 >>14808856

>>14803232
>he doesn't like new le workrate workhorse le ring generaaaaaalllll so he should DIEEEEEE!!!!!!
what is wrong with you fags

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 23:49:15 No.14803286 Report

Quoted By: >>14803303

>>14803208
>No memorable promos
Promo during AEW
>No memorable stories
Made Gable's daughter cry
>No character besides..le ring general
He's a no nonsense world class wrestler that hate le muh sports entertainment
>Does the same 5 moves but it's bad when Jey Uso does it
Way more moves then anyone on the roster and his moves look impactful and powerful
>I genuinely don't get this guy
That's because you're not a true wrestling fan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 23:50:14 No.14803296 Report

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>>14803250
Gonna cry bitch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 23:50:49 No.14803303 Report

Quoted By: >>14803331 >>14806184

>>14803286
>He's a no nonsense world class wrestler that hate le muh sports entertainment
That sounds like the same dimeless fucking nonsense you'd hear from Daniel Garcia, Bret Hart, Dean Malenko, and other fucking charisma vacuums that don't amount to fucking shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 23:51:03 No.14803307 Report

Quoted By: >>14803322

>>14803208
It's Gunther's presence and aura.

There are so few characters that take wrestling seriously, that a guy whose character is taking it deadly seriously automatically elevates the stakes of whatever he participates in.

He's no-nonsense, and to the point. He makes it feel more real.

His wrestling is not on the face of it, the most exciting, but he somehow manages this blend of brawling combined with this sense of a higher art of wrestling, particularly if you know he's influenced by decades-old Japanese wrestling many people claim was the greatest of all-time.

WWMeme is so hokey that a guy whose gimmick is being a serious wrestler is a breath of fresh air.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 23:52:30 No.14803321 Report

Quoted By: >>14803386

he was on the indies so he automatically has 'workrate' somehow even though all he does is spam chops.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 23:52:41 No.14803322 Report

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>>14803307
I accidentally didn't finish my thought.

This blend, being a successful style that still captivates audiences and tricks them into thinking they're watching something more spectacular than they are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 23:53:45 No.14803331 Report

Quoted By: >>14803414

>>14803303
Comparing Gunther to Daniel Garcia is blasphemy.
Gunther vs Bret Hart would be wrestlemania main event tier

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 23:58:58 No.14803386 Report

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>>14803321
Gunther's psychology is that throws be used sparingly, while submission grapples can be used more liberally, and the bulk of offense should be strikes.

While personally I hate this formula in a vacuum, Gunther's presentation makes it mostly okay when he does it.

It's this concept of "Fake Workrate" shall we call it, where shoot chops are so much more dignified than worked punches, that it makes the match feel more shoot, and the standards for good wrestling being as low as they are, it doesn't matter much what the variety and complexity of grapples used elsewhere in the match; in fact, it basically accentuates their usage, making them more impactful when they do happen because you'd be so hungry for them.

"Fake Workrate" is replacing frequency with intensity, so to speak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 00:01:35 No.14803414 Report

Quoted By: >>14804172 >>14808169

>>14803331
HECKIN' BLASPHEMY!!
It's fucking wrestling ya nerd. These guys are meant to entertain, yeah the matches can be alright but when this guy is a bland as shit "ring general" then why should I care about him at all? OHHH BUT THE BANGERS! THE BANGERS!!! There's more to wrestling than looking like a autistic AJPW wannabe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 00:10:15 No.14803546 Report

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We had this conversation three times already, Guntheranon.
>tall, at lesst in the modern day where every fucking faggot is 6' at best
>not exactly a bodybuilder physique, but still manages to look intimidating due to the fact that he's very lanky and has giant arms and generally looks like a lot of pro MMA fighters his size
>has an aura
>his character is clearly that he's a stoic dominant high iq mastermind heel a la Hitler. Any fags saying he doesn't have a character are autistic
>he cuts a great promo especially considering it's his 2nd language he picked up when he was late teens, his voice perfectly fits his character and he sounds very authoritative
>just because he went through the indies doesn't make him a Meltzer mworkrate shitter. Sure, he's clearly a mark for le strong style and kings road faggotry, but if we're looking at hipster wrestling styles smarks drool over then old Jap wrestling is by far the least offensive shit on the list because people in the biz back then had a clue and they made it all look fluid and not gay
>and no, he's not vladimir kozlov 2.0 either

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 00:14:45 No.14803623 Report

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>>14803208
I wasn't convinced when I started watching again either but he has good matches with everyone. Not everyone is meant to be a Rock or Stone Cold. He's a guy who has good matches.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 00:52:39 No.14804172 Report

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>>14803414
I'm entertained, and you are cringe. End of discussion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 00:57:13 No.14804227 Report

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skinny fat vegan f*ggot who GUN-VER drew a dime

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 01:07:52 No.14804401 Report

Quoted By: >>14804799

>>14803208
He had an intimidating presence and believable moveset when he was big. Now that he's a skinny vegan, I just can't take him seriously. And I don't understand how anyone else can either. It would be like Vader losing all his weight but still working the same way. Nobody would buy it. And I'm not buying Gunther either.

Triple H needs to force feed him some bratwurst until he bulks up; either that or put him on roids.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 01:37:15 No.14804799 Report

Quoted By: >>14805425

>>14804401
The leanness adds to his viciousness. Being fat just makes him look like an oaf.

Was Randy Orton too skinny for his character?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 02:25:00 No.14805425 Report

Quoted By: >>14805460 >>14805556

>>14804799
Randy Orton is jacked. Gunther is skinny-fat. Big difference.

And I strongly disagree about Gunther seeming vicious. He doesn't seem vicious now at all. He seems weak and pathetic. Knowing that he's a vegan only makes it worse.

There are numerous examples of big, fat wrestlers that were intimidating and vicious: Vader, Bam Bam, Yokozuna, Umaga, even Rikishi was far more intimidating than Gunther, even as a dancing babyface.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 02:29:38 No.14805450 Report

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Would Gunther be a world champ? He seems to be anti-dimes.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 02:31:54 No.14805460 Report

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>>14805425
Walter would look so dimes if he was fat but also insanely jacked.
Guys these days are to lean, I think it adds to a bigger guy's presence if he is actually BIG rather than some tall guy who works out.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 02:33:29 No.14805470 Report

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Walking dimes right here

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 02:35:05 No.14805475 Report

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>>14803208
Gunther's secret to good matches isn't his offense, it's that he's a good seller. Even during his IC reign he always made it seem like he just barely scraped by with the win. Good sellers stand out because everyone sucks at selling now.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 02:50:34 No.14805556 Report

Quoted By: >>14805631

>>14805425
This is skinny-fat?

And I disagree with you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 02:52:16 No.14805569 Report

Quoted By: >>14805631

I think if you don't like Gunther you might just have a low IQ. He's truly the best wrestler in the world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 03:01:48 No.14805631 Report

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>>14805556
Yes. He looks like shit. He literally has a pooch belly. He needs to either get jacked with roids, or get fat again.

>>14805460
Absolutely. Wrestling needs more BIG guys.

>>14805569
Gunther is a good worker, but he lacks charisma and he lost his intimidating presence at his current size. Don't misunderstand me though; I dislike most modern wrestlers for having poor selling and relying too much on acrobatics over wrestling. Gunther is one of the good ones, but he would be bang average in an earlier era. His work stands out now only because of how fake and floaty most guys are today.

The reason I'm so harsh on Gunther is that I thought he could be a generational talent if he had kept his big size and packed on even more muscle too. Couple a true intimidating presence with his workrate, and Gunther would be a clear step above everybody else today. But he went the opposite direction and now he just looks like everyone else except he has a pooch belly. His work is simply not good enough to overcome that. He's a good worker, but he's not a Bret Hart nor a Chris Benoit. And he's not a Vader or a Bam Bam Bigelow either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 05:03:33 No.14806164 Report

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>>14803208
You're right. He's not athletic, his look is trash, he can't cut a promo but WWE loves a dumb foreigner heel angle. He also has euro backing, but what does that even account for when a state the size of Texas dwarfs all of his fandom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 05:09:34 No.14806184 Report

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>>14803303
Is ok to compare him to Bret but the other two is just straight up trolling.
You're just here to stirr the pot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 05:43:20 No.14806309 Report

Quoted By: >>14806318

>>14803208
>no character besides.. le ring general!!!!!
That's his character. A wrestler who despises the current state of pro wrestling and yearns for the days or Karl Gotch and Lou Thesz and has taken it upon himself to represent these old forgotten values of pro wrestling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 05:45:05 No.14806318 Report

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>>14806309
so he’s literally a Le Wrong Generation f*ggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 05:47:15 No.14806327 Report

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He's big

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 11:05:17 No.14807248 Report

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>>14803232
agreed

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 11:07:31 No.14807250 Report

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>>14803208
>no memorable stories
>Let me tell you all about zat time I fucked OP's mother! Her personal hygiene vas beyond reproach.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 11:07:40 No.14807251 Report

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hahaha he choppa!!! XD look at him go hahaha just like in my nu jamal pro goonin

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 11:09:39 No.14807256 Report

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>>14803244
lol
maybe if he wasn't so thin and ugly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 11:30:35 No.14807313 Report

Quoted By: >>14807353

>Wrestling purist
>Wins however the fuck he wants, fuck finishers
>AEW troons seethe because he doesn't do flippy shit to keep them entertained

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 11:44:53 No.14807353 Report

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>>14803208
>treats wrestling like it's a sport not some child's tv show about slime
>hits hard
>doesn't have a "finisher" as he can beat you with anything
>>14807313
I like PWG flippy shit too but Gunther was based long before AEW was around

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 14:38:12 No.14808024 Report

Quoted By: >>14808040 >>14808043 >>14808046

>>14803208
find me one difference besides their nationality

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 14:40:39 No.14808034 Report

Quoted By: >>14808044

Randy mogged him so hard. Dude needs to get a clue

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 14:41:59 No.14808040 Report

Quoted By: >>14808048

>>14808024
Kozlov was more intimidating since he was a lot bigger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 14:43:16 No.14808043 Report

Quoted By: >>14808050

>>14808024
their looks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 14:43:27 No.14808044 Report

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>>14808034
He won't as long as Gaytch is booking

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 14:43:41 No.14808046 Report

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>>14808024
Best comedy segment of all time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 14:44:13 No.14808048 Report

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>>14808040
alright you got me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 14:45:22 No.14808050 Report

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>>14808043
maybe in the face since kozlov looks like an actual human instead of an overgrown baby with down syndrome but they both have near identical attire even

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 14:48:41 No.14808065 Report

Quoted By: >>14808072

>>14803208
He's dimes that's why

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 14:49:48 No.14808072 Report

Quoted By: >>14808175

>>14808065
when did he ever draw 1 (one) dime?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 15:07:35 No.14808169 Report

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>>14803414
pure reddit dialect, made me wanna puke, get out of our site you simpleton

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 15:08:36 No.14808175 Report

Quoted By: >>14808183

>>14808072
KOTR was just two weeks ago dumb fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 15:09:25 No.14808183 Report

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>>14808175
ah that same match where he botched the ending?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 15:19:55 No.14808243 Report

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Antismarks are such massive faggots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jun 2024 16:51:46 No.14808856 Report

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>>14803250
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