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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 09:02:48 No.14924132 View View Reply Original Report

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does anyone else feel like they've seen every possible flip combination now? i loved the flippy ospreay/ricochet/teddy hart stuff when i first saw it but it feels like the same match every time now and i just don't get anything out of it anymore. i'd much prefer to watch a darby match or a takeshita match than an ospreay match these days

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 11:24:58 No.14924537 Report

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 11:27:11 No.14924546 Report

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>>14924132
That's the inherent problem with fippyshit. Eventually people see all the flips and get bored of them. Then what?

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 11:30:42 No.14924563 Report

Quoted By: >>14924659

Go watch Takayama vs Sugiura. There is a spot when they just start punching each other in the face and the crowd is eating it up. Flippy shit never gets that reaction.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 11:53:07 No.14924649 Report

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>>14924546
thats why the dragunovs and the gunthers of the world are so special

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 11:55:01 No.14924659 Report

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>>14924563
Wrestling is supposed to be a fight. I want to see guys pretend to beat the shit out of each other not do hand in hand cartwheels

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 12:03:10 No.14924684 Report

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>>14924537
lmao cm putz. get the fuck outta here

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 12:11:09 No.14924715 Report

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>>14924132
>>14924546
The problem I noticed is that the match quality actually isnt that much different when it comes to TV and PPV.
If Danielson and Ospreay had a match on Dynamite, it wont be for like 40 minutes, but the 25 minutes it would have gotten on Dynamite would have been more or less the same final 25 minutes of their PPV bout.
How many times can you have a competitive match every week without it getting stale?

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 12:15:36 No.14924728 Report

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>>14924132
I would put Teddy Hart in a class above Ricochet and Osprey. Because at least he's a selfish drug addicted maniac which is closer to real wrestling.

The last time flippy shit was interesting was the initial indie boom after wcw and ECW died. Places like czw, japw, iwa Ms, tna's x division out of the asylum, juggalo wrestling. Retarded kids in trashbag vinyl pants dropping each other on their spines and necks.

These current guys don't even possess the freedom or insanity of guys like jack Evans, amazing red, young AJ styles, young Paul London, sick nick mondo, Ric blade, trent acid (rip)

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 12:28:04 No.14924773 Report

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>>14924132
Nah, but I don't want to see more. It's oversaturated. There are so many guys who just mechanically do a really contrived series of stupid flip spots that no one sells and I refuse to watch any of them any more.
I watched the Despe Invitacionale a couple days ago and the flippy shit on that was good. But the flippy guys he brought in were chosen logically instead of just hiring every generic flip man and giving them no instructions.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 12:52:24 No.14924838 Report

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I don't watch AEW but I saw a clip of the Ospreay/Fenix match and I thought it absolutely sucked. I'm unironically happy we didn't get him now.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 13:06:21 No.14924889 Report

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>>14924715
>The problem I noticed is that the match quality actually isnt that much different when it comes to TV and PPV.
That's another one of AEW's long standing problems. Tony apparently doesn't have the balls to tell people "save it for the PPV". So everyone tries to get all their shit in when it isn't even appropriate. They've got fuckers throwing in everything and the kitchen sink on free TV every single week, and when its PPV time, nothing is special because it all just comes off like extra long TV matches. Which is a bad thing considering TV matches already drag on for too long as it is. Tony will never understand that when everything is 100%, nothing is 100%.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 13:34:30 No.14925019 Report

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>>14924132
No.
I still very much enjoy flippy and thank god lucha exists to constantly make traditionalist boomers seethe endlessly. Ultimately it’s the closest thing we’ve got to kung-fu in wrestling and it will always be based because what they do will always be a visual spectacle.
Wrestling is a circus and a circus has acrobats.

Are there people who think they’ve seen enough suplexes?

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 14:11:23 No.14925255 Report

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>>14924838
The big issue with Ospreay is the stupid 4000 finishes he has, and all of them requiring someone to wait like a moron to be hit besides the storm breaker.
When you add Ospreay's worst habits to Fenix, who literally runs through contrived high spots for 12 minutes every match with all of them being the exact same every match (same as the bucks) then you get unwatchable silliness. And marks call it creative, seeing the same stupid spots in the same order every time. Ospreay can be really good when he's with someone really good, but he will always work at the level of his opponent. If you stick him with a spot monkey then he becomes a spot monkey. If you put him in with someone good then he works properly.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 14:12:50 No.14925262 Report

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>>14925019
I just wish the flippy shit was done by someone who draws you in. Most of the flippy shit in WWE and AEW is done by "Average Man - Who Is Good At His Job!".
Luchadors atleast have the decency to wear a fun and interesting outfit (Pentagon's outfit is fucking ace).

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 14:13:11 No.14925264 Report

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>>14925019
>thank god lucha exists to constantly make traditionalist boomers seethe endlessly
You do know that lucha is primarily a technical, mat wrestling style right?
Lucha does not mean flipping. It means wrestling. Very few luchadors just spam flips and the ones who do learned to do that in the USA working the American indy style of doing flips constantly.
You don't know anything about wrestling.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 14:20:01 No.14925315 Report

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>>14925255
>Ospreay can be really good when he's with someone really good
I should give him another chance. A lot of the flippers in WWE I really like. I love Ricochet and I love Dragon Lee. They don't do 50 backflips in the middle of the match for no reason. I can see Ospreay is talented but I never ever want to see a match like was on Dynamite this week.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 14:30:42 No.14925397 Report

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>>14925019
Flippyshit doesn't look anything like kung fu. The fuck are you babbling about? And why would you want kung fu in pro wrestling when kung fu movies exist and star highly trained professionals who are actually good at martial arts? Sadly I'm afraid you're retarded.
>Wrestling is a circus and a circus has acrobats
Oh no it's worse than I thought

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 16:20:10 No.14926209 Report

Quoted By: >>14926225

Good flippy shit:

>WCW cruiserweights & luchadors

>TNA's X Division from match 1, show 1 all the way up to Hogan's arrival

>90s Michinoku Pro

>Jushin Liger ace era of the NJPW Junior Heavyweights + Super J Cups

>RVD in ECW, RVD+Sabu's tag team, the Super Crazy-Tajiri-Little Guido series of matches from ECW (I think Kid Kash was involved in there too)

>the WWF Light Heavyweight title tournament in 1997 + Taka Michinoku's babyface run in WWF + WWF Los Super Astros

>AAA for peak retard flppyshit

>CZW Best of the Best 1 thru 8

>DragonGate + Toryumon

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 16:21:28 No.14926223 Report

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>>14924132
you've flopped your last flip bucko

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 16:21:32 No.14926225 Report

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>>14926209
forgot to mention:

>Hayabusa and the FMW Junior Heavyweight Championship

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 16:24:47 No.14926246 Report

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>>14925019
>Ultimately it’s the closest thing we’ve got to kung-fu in wrestling
lol what

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 17:50:34 No.14926924 Report

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>>14924728
>>14924132
This, flippyshit is a market that, thanks to a certain coke fiend, is getting oversaturated

At least then we can go back to independents being deathmatch kino

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