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Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 16:24:27 No.16290083 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>16290105 >>16290420 >>16290445 >>16290644 >>16291207

booking genius?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 16:28:46 No.16290105 Report

Quoted By: >>16290205 >>16290299 >>16290385 >>16290435 >>16290653

>>16290083
give me one reason why this card is bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 16:38:37 No.16290138 Report

Quoted By: >>16290160

The funniest part of this image is that every time it's posted, people in the replies will have the exact same arguments and talking points like NPCs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 16:40:48 No.16290149 Report

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its bullshit wheres the mean street posse vs three count

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 16:43:41 No.16290160 Report

Quoted By: >>16290217

>>16290138
That's because it's the same exact image that gets posted with zero context every time. What do you honestly expect? The bait is already at the point of diminishing returns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 16:54:13 No.16290205 Report

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>>16290105
>Foley on WCW for some reason
>not Undertaker-Sting
>no involvement from Nash and Hall
>Warriors winning a match in the 2000s

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Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 16:57:06 No.16290217 Report

Quoted By: >>16290238 >>16290279 >>16290623

>>16290160
What's the context for having Foley on WCW's side Vs. Austin and Taker vs Funk in 2001 ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 17:04:14 No.16290238 Report

Quoted By: >>16290253 >>16290263

>>16290217
He's a hack
That's the context
>Austin-Hogan
>Undertaker-Sting
>Rock-Scott Steiner
Those should have all been no brainers

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 17:08:20 No.16290253 Report

Quoted By: >>16290261 >>16290270

>>16290238
Sure if you're capable of mind control and can get Austin and Hogan to agree on a finish

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 17:10:10 No.16290261 Report

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>>16290253
they both chokeslam eachother at the same time and madison square garden gets wiped off the face of the earth brother -HH

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 17:10:26 No.16290263 Report

Quoted By: >>16290273 >>16290607

>>16290238
>Undertaker-Sting
Anyone who says this is a big dumb retard.
If you're gonna blow all your fantasy matches at one PPV, the one everyone actually watching at the time wanted was Austin/Goldberg.
The Taker/Sting narrative didn't get thrown around until years later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 17:11:53 No.16290270 Report

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>>16290253
Match ends in a double count out after they shake hands in the middle of the ring and walk out together after 20 minutes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 17:12:54 No.16290273 Report

Quoted By: >>16290281

>>16290263
>Austin-Shitberg
>a short and crappy match where Shitberg injures Austin
Yeah great idea

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 17:13:55 No.16290279 Report

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>>16290217
He books the whole invasion for, like, three hours, I don't remember it all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 17:14:58 No.16290281 Report

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>>16290273
I'm sorry you decided to work hurt through multiple concussions, Bret.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 17:20:07 No.16290299 Report

Quoted By: >>16290305

>>16290105
>Foley main eventing in 2001
>Undertaker being wasted on Terry Funk in 2001
>Dusty Rhodes, Jim Cornette & Jimmy Hart in 2001
>Warriord over Dudleys in 2001
>Nova/Jerry Lynn on level with Edge/Christian
Maybe if it was 1997 or someting

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 17:21:12 No.16290305 Report

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>>16290299
GMS

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 17:45:56 No.16290385 Report

Quoted By: >>16290636

>>16290105
I love answering this
>Foley (a WWF guy by the way) instead of any top WCW guy like Hogan, Goldberg, DDP, Sting, etc
>He doesn't know that Funk was a jabroni in WCW's hardcore division by then and wasn't a top guy since the 80s. Also no Sting?
>OK match, but I would have picked DDP so you could have People's Champ vs People's Champ
>Hogan, the guy who made WCW a threat to WWF, in a match vs a guy who hasn't been big since the 80s (and thrown in two managers for no reason)
>this one is fine
>Road Warriors weren't big since the 80s (I'm sensing a pattern here) and just a couple years before the invasion were getting LITERALLY ZERO reaction from the crowd
>this is fine
>this is fine
>nova and lynn? two curtain jerkers? why not Rey and Kidman?
>this is just ok, but at this point Scott was a major main eventer and I'd rather see him vs Kane and drop the other two
>meh

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 17:54:36 No.16290420 Report

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>>16290083
I've replied to this thread so many times.
It's not a horrible preliminary card, but it's got a lot of duds and insane choices.
Steiner might have been though but Big Show and Kane are fucking giants compared to them.
The Rock v Funk is already a better match with the name and Sting v Undertaker is more fitting
Vince v Flair sounds like a terrible idea that would end in tears.
Why the fuck does Jericho need to win anything?
etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 17:59:30 No.16290435 Report

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>>16290105
Shane O Mac isn't on the card

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 18:01:26 No.16290445 Report

Quoted By: >>16290590

>>16290083
get HBK off the somas and put DX v NWO as the co main(kliq v kliq tag match)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 18:36:23 No.16290590 Report

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>>16290445
>Vince v Flair sounds like a terrible idea that would end in tears
Dumbest take of the whole post. Every Vince McMahon WM match is great and Flair is a GOAT. Just put the two in a gimmick match and you would've gotten something the level of Hogan/Vince at 19.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 18:43:04 No.16290607 Report

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>>16290263
Austin/Goldberg is not wrong as far as the pulse of the time, but I think that Austin/Hall was a genuinely inspired matchup on paper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 18:49:09 No.16290623 Report

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>>16290217
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5x60d7
doesnt really have an explanation other than foley was ready to retire

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 18:52:40 No.16290636 Report

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>>16290385
I also enjoy this conversation though it's difficult if somebody hates or loves Cornette or doesn't get the context.
I'll make two points in his favour, firstly that one of his stated goals was to get the long term WCW fans watching WWF shows that they've seen as the enemy for decades. Using the Dustys and Funks of the world and treating them as big deals. Although '85 seems very date, 15 years isn't that long. It's 2024 and we have guys whose peak was 2004 still in main event positions. This would be like using the big stars from 2010 now which happens. So it looks worse than it is.
The second point is that this is supposed to be a culmination of a year long angle so these feuds would have been built. The purpose of this was to move the older guys out gracefully and the young guys that you mentioned would be the guys headlining the next Mania.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 18:54:06 No.16290644 Report

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>>16290083
It seems like the card has two priorities which are at odds with reality. First, it seems like Cornette is thinking more about pre-Ted Turner WCW, the Jim Crockett era even though anyone would be thinking of Nitro/MNW era. Second, I think that he was thinking of everyone in their primes rather than the reality of everyone's careers post-MNW.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 18:55:55 No.16290653 Report

Quoted By: >>16290663

>>16290105
Dusty and Funk are terrible choices, to the WWE audience it's the polka dot guy and Chainsaw Charlie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 18:58:44 No.16290663 Report

Quoted By: >>16290672

>>16290653
The idea that WWE audience didn't know top WCW guys or any other wrestling people has been consistently disproven as Vince headcanon for about 40 years

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 19:01:13 No.16290672 Report

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>>16290663
Dusty and Terry were more NWA 80s top guys than WCW top guys though, 15-20 years was more like 50 back then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 19:02:15 No.16290674 Report

Quoted By: >>16290681 >>16290695

Jim Cornette has zero clue what the people want to see. That’s always been the big problem with him as a creative, and it’s a pretty fucking big one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 19:04:27 No.16290681 Report

Quoted By: >>16290685

>>16290674
I think most people would agree that Cornette is a great detail guy on wrestling logic but he's not exactly culturally on the ball

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 19:05:22 No.16290685 Report

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>>16290681
Putting it succinctly, he does not have his finger on the pulse

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 19:07:58 No.16290695 Report

Quoted By: >>16290704

>>16290674
Oh yeah mean the people weren’t clamoring to see Bob Holly and Bart Gunn as the new Midnight Express in 1998 during the peak of the Attitude Era? Hard to believe

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 19:09:55 No.16290704 Report

Quoted By: >>16290711

>>16290695
Cornette hated that, actively fought against it, and considered it an insult to the point that it led to his firing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 19:11:48 No.16290711 Report

Quoted By: >>16290721

>>16290704
Sure he did

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 19:15:32 No.16290721 Report

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>>16290711
It's acknowledge by everyone who was there at the time, including Russo, that it was Russos idea who did it to try and mock Cornette.
The idea that Cornette would want a New Midnight Express is sort of retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 21:23:48 No.16291207 Report

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>>16290083
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