"This was an internet fantasy thing for like a month way way back. 'Oh, he [Paul Heyman] manages Roman Reigns. He used to manage Punk. Is something gonna happen there?' Here's why I buy your theory that they kinda just switched it up on the fly out of nowhere. The fifth man being Drew would've pulled Punk out to be the fifth man for Survivor Series. The Punk and Bronson Reed thing, yeah, you're right, Seth Rollins just got pushed to the side and the only way to save his character is to turn heel at Survivor Series and go on to have a singles deal with Punk," he said. [10:04 - 10:39]