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AEW DYNAMITE QUARTER HOUR RATINGS

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:18:18 No.16815138 View View Reply Original Report

Last Week
>679,000 (0.18)
This Week
>655,000 (0.19)
NXT
>812,000 (0.22)

YOUR DIMELESS BITCHES OF THE WEEK
DEATH RIDERS
HURT SYNDICATE
PRIVATE PARTY
JEFF JARRETT
AR FOX
COPELAND

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:19:17 No.16815144 Report

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JEONG MOKUSU LEE

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:19:31 No.16815146 Report

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>.19
Skyrocket.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:19:40 No.16815148 Report

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>>16815138
SWERVE IS A RATINGS KILLER LMAO

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:19:50 No.16815151 Report

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>>16815144
Jean Mosselet

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:20:00 No.16815152 Report

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I see disgusting, hideous, repugnant and subhuman antidraws here

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:20:37 No.16815156 Report

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>>16815138
NO MILLY
NO 700K
NO WILLY
SEETHING HOGWHEELY

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:20:49 No.16815157 Report

Quoted By: >>16815167 >>16815168 >>16815176 >>16815562 >>16821831 >>16837954

I couldn't find it on Max's top 10 for the US or global.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:21:01 No.16815158 Report

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>cope

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:21:01 No.16815159 Report

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didnt tony pay 5m+ a year for the hurt syndicate why is it such an antidraw

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:21:08 No.16815160 Report

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>>16815138
Big fucking mistake giving a big send off angle to Jeff fucking Jarrett.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:21:20 No.16815161 Report

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>>16815138
Thank you based Shelgod for drawing the house

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:22:02 No.16815167 Report

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>>16815157
>jobbing to THE WEST WING in 2025

im dying bros

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:22:02 No.16815168 Report

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>>16815157
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU ITS FAKE BULLSHIT AEW IS DOING GREAT AND WE GOT A GREAT DEAL AND IT WONT BE CANCELLED BECAUSE EVERYONE LOVES OUR SHOW WE HAVE 5 STARS MATCHES EVERY WEEK BITCH FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:22:39 No.16815171 Report

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>>16815138
Will Assplay and Kenny drove off all the fans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:22:47 No.16815172 Report

Quoted By: >>16815185

>>16815138
>Drop overall: 242k
>Drop 18-49: 49k
Once again, the boomers are responsible for these huge drops. The two quarters with two commercial breaks gained in the 18-49, which is actually impressive, especially the second one with the women.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:23:10 No.16815176 Report

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>>16815157
>It's all realitysloppa
Civilization has fallen

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:24:29 No.16815184 Report

Quoted By: >>16815206 >>16815514 >>16816185

Nobody gives a fuck about Jeff Jarrett. Some things never change

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:24:33 No.16815185 Report

Quoted By: >>16815190

>>16815172
Boomers fell asleep at the end of The Big Bang Theory and changed the channel when they saw a midget doing a flip in a wrestling ring lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:24:57 No.16815190 Report

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>>16815185
this is unironically true

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:26:10 No.16815199 Report

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>>16815138
137k saw Neo Moxi in the second quarter and said fuck it

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:27:09 No.16815206 Report

Quoted By: >>16815523

>>16815184
literally nobody tunes in for any of the 50 year old boomers from wwe/tna but tony got worked into giving them millions each on multi year deals so feels he has to use them

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:27:24 No.16815209 Report

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>>16815138
DAMN

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:27:35 No.16815214 Report

Quoted By: >>16815223

>>16815138
MJF is a draw

MJF

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MJF Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:29:41 No.16815223 Report

Quoted By: >>16815252

Last year: 837k, .27
Last time AEW drew 700k, september 25

>>16815214
trvthnvke

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:33:12 No.16815252 Report

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>>16815223
>Last year: 837k
>This Week 655,000

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:33:51 No.16815258 Report

Quoted By: >>16815284

>>16815138
tony used none of the guys that /pw/ smarks claimed are big draws here.

no kenny
no ospreay
no ricoshet
no hangman
no young bucks
no switchblade
no okada

and the rating didnt really change
what does that say about /pw/s taste?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:33:58 No.16815262 Report

Quoted By: >>16815281 >>16838249

How come they used to get a 1M lead in, but now the lead in is only 800k?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:35:45 No.16815281 Report

Quoted By: >>16815402

>>16815262
sheldon only draws 900k-1m now
also people have gotten wise and turn off earlier

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:36:00 No.16815284 Report

Quoted By: >>16815303

>>16815258
it says that featuring or not featuring talent has no effect on the cable ratings

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:37:40 No.16815296 Report

Quoted By: >>16815302

Isn't it kinda weird that there's a "women's match" slot in the same spot every week?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:37:56 No.16815302 Report

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>>16815296
no?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:37:58 No.16815303 Report

Quoted By: >>16815316 >>16815354

>>16815284
Except it absolutely has an effect on cable ratings. The problem is none of the talent in AEW draws because they either suck or are technically good but Tony turned them so ice cold that nobody gives a fuck about them anymore.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:38:31 No.16815308 Report

Quoted By: >>16815322

I can’t remember the last time we’ve seen one of those WB press documents congratulating AEW on a big number

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:39:30 No.16815316 Report

Quoted By: >>16815353 >>16815354 >>16815400

>>16815303
You don't have any evidence of them changing the ratings. I look at the chart in OP and I see the ratings are slightly up when there's no ads, and slightly down when there are more ads. That is an observable effect. Talent on screen has no effect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:40:12 No.16815322 Report

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>>16815308
And Tony is no longer bragging about how WBD-senpai praised him. Things aren't looking good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:43:06 No.16815353 Report

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>>16815316
>Talent on screen has no effect.
>aew wrestlers are useless.
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:43:13 No.16815354 Report

Quoted By: >>16815366

>>16815316
>>16815303
both are right. everyone in aew isnt a draw, very few wrestlers in wwe are draws
the storylines are the draw, and aews suck so they lost 300k in a year
so tony should stop giving out multi million dollar deals for yummy toys and put any old shitters in the matches and spend those millions on writers

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:45:04 No.16815366 Report

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>>16815354
wrestlers are only ever draws because writers gave them good gimmicks or bookers got them over. the best wrestling has always been soap opera shit, nobody outside of the 10k meltzer drones that use cagematch care about match quality

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:47:44 No.16815385 Report

Quoted By: >>16815414 >>16815644

Being a "draw" means more of the limited declining pool of wrestling viewers want to watch you, or that the same wrestling viewers are watching you, but are more satisfied by the show. There doesn't exist a viewer who is only willing to watch one quarter or segment for a specific person, but refuses to watch any of the rest. You could argue someone like Punk is the exception to this, since he has a cult of people who follow him around and only watch anything he does.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:48:17 No.16815391 Report

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:49:19 No.16815399 Report

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can tony stop hiring 50 year old boomers, just look at OPs image, they all plummet the ratings

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:49:19 No.16815400 Report

Quoted By: >>16815418 >>16815420 >>16815472

>>16815316
>booking has no effect on ratings
>talent has no effect on ratings
Has tranny cope really come to this? Pretending like the appeal of a show has no effect on its ratings? Have they truly gone so far around the bend?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:49:36 No.16815402 Report

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>>16815281
>HAHAHAHA what another great episode of The Big Bang Theory. I sure do love that Sheldon! Honey, switch the channel before the transvestite midget wrestling comes on.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:50:30 No.16815410 Report

Quoted By: >>16815426

>>16815138
655k on TV and 600k on MAX.
True rating for AEW Dynamite this week is 655k + 600k = 1.25 MILLY.
Good rating. No wonder AEW got the WBD and MAX deals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:50:51 No.16815414 Report

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>>16815385
sting did, a lot of people left when he quit
and if you read the dynamite threads a lot of people on here tune in for kenny alone

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:51:10 No.16815418 Report

Quoted By: >>16815460

>>16815400
I'm just looking at the data and seeing that it never moves in relation to talent. This is being empirical. If you think talent affects the quarter ratings, explain to me why we never see that effect anywhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:51:13 No.16815420 Report

Quoted By: >>16815453

>>16815400
Dave said the same thing on his show. There is nothing AEW can do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:51:53 No.16815426 Report

Quoted By: >>16816810

>>16815410
40-60k on max if you believe meltzer

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:52:55 No.16815437 Report

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Taking the belt off of Swerve to give it to Danielson for a month and a half was dumb. Having Mox take it off of BD instead of a rematch with Swerve or an up and coming talent that BD could "make" was even dumber .... AND NOW THEYRE GONNA FUCKING GIVE IT TO JEFF JARRETT

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:53:22 No.16815442 Report

Quoted By: >>16815457

>>16815138
800,000 for that regular ass episode of NXT. Incredible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:54:13 No.16815453 Report

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>>16815420
aew could try to be a good TV show maybe I mean it wouldn't hurt

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:54:47 No.16815457 Report

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>>16815442
nxt whore their women out and have ridiculous storylines. its what people want to see in this bland puritan era

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:54:56 No.16815460 Report

Quoted By: >>16815468

>>16815418
>If you think talent affects the quarter ratings, explain to me why we never see that effect anywhere.
We never see it anywhere in AEW anymore because the whole roster is ice cold. But I remember Darby Allin used to reliably pop the ratings. I think Kenny did too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:55:54 No.16815467 Report

Quoted By: >>16815473

>death riders come out
>tell everyone why aew is shit to get heat
>everyone just agrees with them and turns off
>ratings plummet

based mox

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:56:00 No.16815468 Report

Quoted By: >>16815512 >>16815553 >>16815583

>>16815460
You don't see it really anywhere because it's not a real phenomenon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:57:06 No.16815472 Report

Quoted By: >>16815553 >>16815661

>>16815400
Talent legitimately isn’t a factor, Roman & Cena could go to AEW next week, maybe bump them into 800K that show, and they’d go back to the 600K the following week. Booking however is a valid point.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:57:16 No.16815473 Report

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>>16815467
>>death riders come out
>>tell everyone why aew is shit to get heat
>>everyone just agrees with them and turns off

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 00:58:11 No.16815484 Report

Quoted By: >>16820071

heh.. nice number there, cope..

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:00:22 No.16815512 Report

Quoted By: >>16815533 >>16815559

>>16815468
No, it's a real phenomenon that's always existed in televised pro wrestling and it's not even up for debate. But see, your mind is broken and you've created a delusional fantasy world where the people on the screen don't effect the ratings, which is quite frankly insane.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:00:27 No.16815514 Report

Quoted By: >>16815529

>>16815184
>Nobody gives a fuck about Jeff Jarrett
he said this decades ago

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:01:23 No.16815523 Report

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>>16815206
Nobody tunes in for the twinks you like either, you dumb faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:01:56 No.16815529 Report

Quoted By: >>16822037

>>16815514
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VU9_eAHQ0o

iconic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:02:04 No.16815533 Report

Quoted By: >>16815608

>>16815512
I'm just looking at reality, and you're coping and living in a cargo cult mentality 90s nostalgia laden dream world where if the wrestling is good enough then millions of viewers will magically pop out of existence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:05:35 No.16815553 Report

Quoted By: >>16815583 >>16816328

>>16815472
>Talent legitimately isn't a factor
>if Roman and Cena went on AEW they'd bump the ratings...
So talent is a factor. Don't argue just for the sake of arguing, anon. No talent would have much of an effect on AEW's ratings at this point and we totally agree on that. But >>16815468 is arguing that on-screen talent has never had an effect on ratings for any wrestling promotion anywhere because he's batshit crazy

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:06:28 No.16815559 Report

Quoted By: >>16815604

>>16815512
theyre all just actors. people arent gonna keep watching a show with shit writing just because brad pitt or whoever is acting in it. you give the rock the shockmaster gimmick and booking he isnt getting over, you give the shockmaster the rocks promos and booking he would get over. even the rock wasnt over in the nation of domination because he didnt have the writing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:06:47 No.16815562 Report

Quoted By: >>16815584

>>16815157
>Banshee in the top 10
Fucking based. There's an episode where a pre-WWE Lana gets coke snorted off her bare tits. Bigger draw than AEW.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:08:24 No.16815583 Report

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>>16815553
>But >>16815468(You) is arguing that on-screen talent has never had an effect on ratings for any wrestling promotion anywhere because he's batshit crazy
Nah, I'm saying it's the exception and mostly doesn't exist, and the extent to which you ratings hounds micro-analyze statistically insignificant fluctuations in the data trying to look for this phenomenon is a form of madness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:08:26 No.16815584 Report

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>>16815562
ironically if tony booked stuff like that aew would draw again. its not even PG so he could do it, but hes too beta to ask any of the women to do something like that

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:10:58 No.16815604 Report

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>>16815559
>ynr cenetty almost got cut from wwe but they gave him one last shot with that rapper gimmick.
i wonder if it would have done better without him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:11:15 No.16815608 Report

Quoted By: >>16815664 >>16815688

>>16815533
>I'm just looking at reality
You aren't though. You're insane.
>you're coping and living in a cargo cult mentality 90s nostalgia laden dream world where if the wrestling is good enough then millions of viewers will magically pop out of existence.
Setting aside the fact that you're rapidly losing coherence, WWE has millions of viewers right the fuck now. You know why? Because its booking and the talent they put on screen are appealing to millions of people. You know why AEW has shit ratings? Because Tony's booking and the people he puts on screen are appealing to few people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:13:22 No.16815634 Report

Quoted By: >>16816830

>>16815138
Where the fuck was Sheldon the last 2 months? He's now giving them like a +100k more in the lead in

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:14:12 No.16815644 Report

Quoted By: >>16815658

>>16815385
i agree for wwe, but aew is different. thats why everyone talks so much about le heckin new tony and tonys indie infinity stones. nobody tunes in to watch aew, they tune in to see their favorite wrestler they used to watch in the indies/NJPW and now theyre on aew. its a lot more about the individuals than the collective like wwe is, and this is mainly because of how fractured/inconsistent the booking/storylines feel

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:15:17 No.16815658 Report

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>>16815644
>new tony
new toys*

i wish there was a le heckin' new tony though..

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:15:25 No.16815661 Report

Quoted By: >>16815691

>>16815472
They could have Hulk vs Andre but Tony would just announce it on a Tuesday before Dynamite with no Piper’s Pit build/heat and it might draw 700K.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:15:50 No.16815664 Report

Quoted By: >>16815720 >>16815734

>>16815608
>You know why?
Because of legacy market dominance
>You know why AEW has shit ratings?
Because they started in 2019 and haven't been able to time travel back 20 years to reach all the previous younger viewers who now don't give a shit about wrestling. Nobody cares about "booking" other than internet smarks with an axe to grind

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:17:51 No.16815688 Report

Quoted By: >>16815705 >>16815779 >>16818692

>>16815608
I bet you think WWF beat WCW because they had "superior booking" too, and not because WCW was financially mismanaged and resultingly backstabbed by their new post-merger corporate owners.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:18:01 No.16815691 Report

Quoted By: >>16815717

>>16815661
this is true
andre was the worst wrestler ever in ring, he could barely move, and could barely speak english, but they got him over as a megastar by booking.
tony actually has some 7 foot indian in aew who doesnt even get used because he cant do a moonsault, thats what he would do with andre if he had him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:19:27 No.16815705 Report

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>>16815688
WCW died because bischoff was a retarded mark and gave everyone million dollar contracts because they pretended to be his friend. he gave michael buffer like 300k a show to say one line.
so basically tony 1.0 except tony has infinite money to waste

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:20:33 No.16815717 Report

Quoted By:

>>16815691
80s Vince didn't need to shit out 4+ hours of TV content every week, he was booking show to show which is way easier to establish people who have limited one-shot value. I agree Tony could be better at this, I think Jay White is a great example of a guy trapped in no man's land, where the trigger is not willing to be pulled

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:20:39 No.16815720 Report

Quoted By: >>16815772

>>16815664
>Nobody cares about "booking" other than internet smarks with an axe to grind
Nobody cares about stories but people apparently do care about workrate and Dave stars?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:21:18 No.16815734 Report

Quoted By: >>16815772

>>16815664
Kek. You'll go to any length to avoid blaming Tony for the state of his own company. WWE doesn't draw millions because of some cope like legacy market dominance, they draw because they produce appealing shows. AEW is rapidly plummeting in every metric because it produces very unappealing shows. Simple as. Dynamite actually beat Raw in the key demo at one point in time but Tony shit the bed and couldn't keep the momentum going.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:23:20 No.16815762 Report

Quoted By: >>16815794 >>16815805

AEW is in a free fall and everyone's been seeing it, and warning them for over a year while the denial strengthens.
Everyone that goes there is cold as fuck. The story lines are cold as fuck. People come and go with no explanation. I was a huge AEW mark when it first started, and they turned me way off in a hurry. He ruined NJPW by signing guys like Jay white just to shelve them.
Good luck to them though, hope they get hot and figure it out but it's molten ass right now and it has been for a little while.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:25:20 No.16815772 Report

Quoted By: >>16815816 >>16815938

>>16815720
Wrestling can appeal to different groups, the fans who just want to see Logan Paul and don't know who Dean Malenko is, and the Meltzer nerds who get a hardon when they see move callbacks to matches from 20 years ago. Neither of these groups are illegitimate.
>>16815734
I think Tony's done a great job and I'll always defend him. I think his detractors are very low quality and uncharitable.
>WWE doesn't draw millions because of some cope like legacy market dominance, they draw because they produce appealing shows
This is just completely not true and is totally contradictory to the other line you guys always push about how "nobody even knows what AEW is!" in your line of argument people *do* know AEW and think it is inferior quality and don't tune in, but in reality, most people don't know what the fuck it is unless they're a hardcore wrestling fan. People are way way way more habitual and set in their ways and habits than you want to acknowledge. Getting people to change up their consumer habits once formed is very hard. It's why so many people still cling to WWE even through periods that even hardcore WWE fans will recognize were totally dogshit eras.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:26:13 No.16815779 Report

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>>16815688
>I bet you think WWF beat WCW because they had "superior booking"
Yes. Also superior talent. WCW was still trying to lean on washed old guys and the nWo storyline was getting real stale while WWF was firing on all cylinders with Rock, Austin, Mr. McMahon, Mankind etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:28:08 No.16815794 Report

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>>16815762
I look forward to Jay White coming over to the big leagues eventually. He can bring Juice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:29:31 No.16815805 Report

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>>16815762
You just gotta accept that AEW is live action Smash Bros where everybody shows up famous from their previous franchises and fights with no rhyme or reason, forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:30:02 No.16815810 Report

Quoted By: >>16815848 >>16815852

I can't believe we've finally reached the point where NXT is now beating Dynamite every week. It's one of those things we kinda looked at each week as it got closer and wondered about, but I never actually thought AEW would fall so much.
On the other hand, i'm glad NXT is getting the recognition it deserves, easily the best wrestling show on each week.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:30:20 No.16815816 Report

Quoted By: >>16815852

>>16815772
>I think Tony's done a great job and I'll always defend him.
Well, yes, because you're crazy. Imagine watching AEW lose 200k viewers in a year, watching its attendance for Dynamite dip down under 2000, and thinking "yes Tony is definitely doing a great job".
>This is just completely not true
Except it is. You essentially just admitted to being a "Tonydrone" committed to defending him so your opinion has no value.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:33:40 No.16815848 Report

Quoted By: >>16815911 >>16817024

>>16815810
AEW was once so hot that it literally killed NXT black and gold and put Triple H’s future as an exec in doubt
Damn shame to see it’s current state now

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:33:48 No.16815852 Report

Quoted By: >>16815865 >>16815894 >>16815911

>>16815810
It's not hard to believe when you notice they're on network TV now, and that that is the entire reason for the ratings bump.
>>16815816
I don't think cable's global decline has any relevance or bearing on AEW as a company.
>watching its attendance for Dynamite dip down under 2000
If you followed AEW from the start, and not during the post-lockdown mini-boom when you probably started paying attention, you'd know this is normal for them.
>You essentially just admitted to being a "Tonydrone" committed to defending him so your opinion has no value.
If you make an argument that isn't desperate cope and confirmation bias to plug into your AEW doom narrative then I won't dismiss it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:35:34 No.16815865 Report

Quoted By: >>16815885

>>16815852
You're really stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:38:12 No.16815885 Report

Quoted By: >>16815956

>>16815865
I'm just immune to cope, and AEW doomers are fantasists in a echo chamber. I will let you continue coping though since I know how much you enjoy it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:39:40 No.16815894 Report

Quoted By: >>16815898

>>16815852
>I don't think cable's global decline has any relevance or bearing on AEW as a company.
Clearly not, because they're also on Max and it's made no difference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:40:01 No.16815898 Report

Quoted By: >>16815908

>>16815894
No difference to what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:40:57 No.16815908 Report

Quoted By: >>16815915

>>16815898
No difference to their abysmal ratings.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:41:09 No.16815911 Report

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>>16815848
>AEW was once so hot that it literally killed NXT black and gold
Which ironically was the best thing that ever happened to NXT. AEW killed it and absorbed its shitters so it could be reborn as something better and start kicking AEW's ass.

>>16815852
>cable's global decline
The decline in cable isn't why AEW lost 200k fans. And it sure as fuck can't be why their attendance is falling.
>drawing 1000 people is normal for AEW
Hahahahahahahahahaha. Well it's normal for them now but they used to average much higher.
>If you make an argument that isn't desperate cope and confirmation bias to plug into your AEW doom narrative then I won't dismiss it
>desperate cope
That's what your whole totally delusional argument is based on

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:41:31 No.16815915 Report

Quoted By: >>16815937

>>16815908
Why would them being on Max increase their cable ratings? That makes no sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:43:30 No.16815937 Report

Quoted By: >>16815967

>>16815915
Max numbers are included in the Nielsen ratings I'm afraid

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:43:35 No.16815938 Report

Quoted By: >>16815946

>>16815772
>I think Tony's done a great job and I'll always defend him.
Holy shit! What a fucking faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:44:13 No.16815946 Report

Quoted By:

>>16815938
>plebbitors mind explodes when he is face to face with a real life AEW chad

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:45:43 No.16815956 Report

Quoted By: >>16815977

>>16815885
>AEW doomers are fantasists
AEW is legitimately doomed because its ratings and attendance have been in a freefall since January 2024 and it's not slowing down. You're a crazy lunatic sitting on the deck of the Titanic saying "well actually everything is fine" as it sinks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:46:31 No.16815967 Report

Quoted By: >>16815971

>>16815937
You aren't just lying to me anon, are you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:46:55 No.16815971 Report

Quoted By:

>>16815967
Fraid not

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:47:37 No.16815977 Report

Quoted By: >>16815992

>>16815956
2 weeks sister

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:49:21 No.16815992 Report

Quoted By: >>16816061

>>16815977
Until you touch a vagina? I've got some bad news: it's never happening.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:55:54 No.16816061 Report

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>>16815992
16815977xirs, not like this…

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 01:57:26 No.16816084 Report

Quoted By:

kwab

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 02:04:24 No.16816185 Report

Quoted By: >>16820106

>>16815184
I understand he did alot of behind the scenes shit but it honestly amazes me that hes been around for 40 fucking years and has never drawn a DIME as a wrestler

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 02:20:05 No.16816328 Report

Quoted By: >>16816343

>>16815553
>They’d bump the ratings for one week & then go right back to their usual
Then talent isn’t really that much of a factor. Anything can shrink or grow an audience for one week, it’s the overall long term & long term wise, talent is hardly important. The Wednesday wars proved as much, literal who’s from the indies outdrew plenty of guys who people were familiar with (who Tony then stupidly hired)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 02:21:16 No.16816343 Report

Quoted By: >>16816461 >>16816902

>>16816328
>The Wednesday wars proved as much, literal who’s from the indies outdrew plenty of guys who people were familiar with (who Tony then stupidly hired)
This only proves that the "literal whos" were talent the people were interested in. It still matters

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 02:32:02 No.16816461 Report

Quoted By: >>16816827 >>16816902

>>16816343
Think a little, if you can make people care about anybody when you did it with Johnny Bumfuck, then you can put anyone on the show with proper booking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 02:53:25 No.16816616 Report

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>>16815138
All Shit Wrestling... I'm not watching again tony, told ypu last week. Good luck living with yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 03:15:19 No.16816810 Report

Quoted By: >>16818122

>>16815426
It's not. The most likely number is sub 10K.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 03:17:17 No.16816822 Report

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It's amazing how the main event continously doesn't draw shit, the show constantly loses viewers each quarter almost on every single show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 03:17:41 No.16816827 Report

Quoted By: >>16816920

>>16816461
No it just means the audience might want jimmy bumfuck. Everyone starts out unknown, and the NXT guys weren't big names either

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 03:18:07 No.16816830 Report

Quoted By:

>>16815634
Holiday season I'm guessing? Instead of watching BBT the ol' timers were watching Christmas movies on Hallmark.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 03:27:05 No.16816892 Report

Quoted By:

>>16815138
Women's segment with the highest demo of the show? And that's with 2 ad-breaks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 03:28:50 No.16816902 Report

Quoted By:

>>16816343
>>16816461
Say you were a jaded pro wrestling fan tired of WWE and the same overexposed talent you've seen for 5/10/15+ years before hand. Start watching this new wrestling show that sure had ex-WWE talent but also had fresh talent but slowly more and more ex-WWE shitters were being hired that ran you off from WWE in the first place and boom, you found yourself in the same position as TNA and WCW beforehand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 03:31:44 No.16816920 Report

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>>16816827
Because by 10pm the old timers are in bed and aren't checking back into see if Big Bang is back on. Every week with AEW is the same, big drop off from the 8/8:30 quarters, little spike at 9 thinking it'll be back on, boomers go to bed the main-event match/angle ends up doing the worst during the whole show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 03:50:49 No.16817024 Report

Quoted By:

>>16815848
If WWE wasn't a nepo business they'd see that Shawn should be booking the big shows and gaytch isn't fit to run a lemonade stand

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 05:38:42 No.16817525 Report

Quoted By:

>>16815138
Thanks for drawing the house Sheldon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 09:01:34 No.16818122 Report

Quoted By:

>>16816810
why you say that?

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 09:03:38 No.16818128 Report

Quoted By: >>16821793

>>16815138
>drew the lowest quarter
Doesn't matter, still having fun

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 09:05:08 No.16818132 Report

Quoted By: >>16820285 >>16835423

Get rid of ROH
Unify all the ROH belts with the AEW ones
Unify the Continental and International championship into one title. (Intercontinental Championship)
Unify the TNT title with the ROH TV title (AEW Television Championship)
No trios title
TBS title gets renamed to AEW Women's Television Championship.
Only two womeme belts (world and TV)
So you'd have
AEW World Title
AEW Intercontinental Title
AEW TV Title
AEW Tag Titles
AEW Womemes World and TV
Everyone employed with ROH can either fuck off and die or be Collision only jobbers.
Have Mox go full schizo and go lone wolf against everyone in AEW.
Drops the belt to Osprey eventually.
Takeshita and Don are the best thing in gAyEW right now so they can keep the Intercontinental title.
The TV title wouldn't be on Faggot Garcia and should be on entertaining spot monkeys like Darby.
gAyEW Tag titles can stay on Bobby and Shelton but they need to stop feuding exclusively with niggers.
Then IDGAF about the womemes.
Also, maybe a Hardcore title for both the women and men that can get defended every other week only on TV. Every match in extreme rules so the random ass Texas Death matches and shit can actually have a prize behind them.
Give the Hardcore title to Hangmam Page and the womeme hardcore title to the fat nigger
You're welcome Tony

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 09:17:11 No.16818161 Report

Quoted By: >>16818168

The whole point of a wrestling angle is to create a match that people will buy tickets to see, purchase a PPV to see or at least will tune in to see on TV.

For that, you need a protagonist and an antagonist. So far there’s no protagonist in the Death Riders angle and there was none in the Elite takeover that preceded it — they attacked Tony and that wasn’t going to ever lead to Tony getting his revenge (or attempting to) in the ring. Heck, he didn’t do much if anything as far as using his powers as boss to try to stop or slow the Elite, just like he’s allowing a group of thugs to try to suffocate people (attempted murder) on TV … with zero consequences.

Much like the Elite ‘takeover,’ this will lead to a Blood and Guts or Stadium Stampede type match against some randomly assembled ’Team AEW’ … with zero stakes so it doesn’t matter who wins or loses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 09:19:16 No.16818164 Report

Quoted By:

Lexis King is the draw tbqh

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 09:22:07 No.16818167 Report

Quoted By: >>16818674

There were people on here arguing last night that AEW doesn't need to be story heavy and it should go back to being wrestling heavy. That and the fact that people legitimately think Darby should be the one to take it off Moxley is going to be such a stupid move.

Tony is literally getting trashed by NXT in ratings, clearly people want good story continuity and better pay offs.

AEW has a story but the continuity is so inconsistent. Like Tony should simultaneously be booking a quick path to Omega winning the championship and have his next 2 feud ready to go.

It would also help if he makes at least one of the shows women and tag division heavy so people know tag champs and other teams will get some good shine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 09:22:37 No.16818168 Report

Quoted By:

>>16818161
They already had the Team AEW thing didn't they? It had Hanger, OC and I think Mark Briscoe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 09:25:38 No.16818177 Report

Quoted By:

AEW really needs to get their shit together - hold production meetings, plan out 6-9 months of booking ahead of time, for fuck sake capitalise on people's momentum...Kenny redoing the Golden Jets thing but with Ospreay this time is actually awful. Dude has had all his momentum pulled off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 13:00:44 No.16818633 Report

Quoted By: >>16818665

Good number when you think about the fact people wanted to watch something else.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 13:13:55 No.16818665 Report

Quoted By:

>>16818633
>Good number
You're right

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 13:18:29 No.16818674 Report

Quoted By:

>>16818167
>broken down Omegay with the belt in 2025
If that's their best choice, then AEW is truly dead

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 13:24:53 No.16818692 Report

Quoted By: >>16819033

>>16815688
I bet you've never watched WCW, let alone wvlcw 2000 if you think it's piss poor booking didn't contribute to its rapid downfall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 15:12:17 No.16819033 Report

Quoted By:

>>16818692
i went back and watched wcw 99 and 00 and its so much better than modern wrestling it isnt funny
well the matches are kinda shit but everything else mogs

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 16:10:28 No.16819279 Report

Quoted By: >>16819289 >>16819421

>>16815138
>ha ha aew lost again

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 16:12:26 No.16819289 Report

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>>16819279
Don't worry tranny you'll feel better once AEW starts winning again. Oh wait they'll never start winning again sorry ahahahahahaha

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 16:22:44 No.16819356 Report

Quoted By:

>>16815138
Holy slide threads. I now know the cause

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 16:25:38 No.16819376 Report

Quoted By: >>16819384

>>16815138
>that fucking drop right out of the gate

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 16:27:48 No.16819384 Report

Quoted By:

>>16819376
Well they decided to open the show with Will Ospreay giving omega a big bruver promo. Im sad I didn't turn it off in retrospect. Shitslinging aside it was probably the best dynamite of 2025

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 16:33:54 No.16819421 Report

Quoted By: >>16819429 >>16821070

>>16819279
Why did you post a pic of hogwheels?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 16:34:58 No.16819429 Report

Quoted By:

>>16819421
turn your monitor on

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 16:43:20 No.16819468 Report

Quoted By: >>16819484

>>16815138
AEW fucking SUCKS I'm afraid!!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 16:46:53 No.16819484 Report

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>>16819468
but enough about wwe

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 18:26:24 No.16820055 Report

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>>16815138

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 18:28:30 No.16820071 Report

Quoted By:

>>16815484
Didn’t you have some low ratings Peepfag?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 18:29:02 No.16820074 Report

Quoted By:

>>16815138
Grim

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 18:35:50 No.16820106 Report

Quoted By: >>16828491

>>16816185
I blame those retards at OSW review for rehabbing jarrett's image during the peak of ironic wrestling Fandom during the 2010s. Jarrett's title run in WCW was the biggest factor in the companies downfall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 19:05:27 No.16820285 Report

Quoted By:

>>16818132
Due to copyright it would be the "AEW international-continental" title

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 21:00:07 No.16821070 Report

Quoted By:

>>16819421
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 22:33:21 No.16821793 Report

Quoted By:

>>16818128
JUST

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 22:38:12 No.16821831 Report

Quoted By:

>>16815157
>Banshee
Lmao based 10 year old pulp kino beating out Tony's toy chest

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2025 23:13:07 No.16822037 Report

Quoted By:

>>16815529
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2025 00:04:29 No.16822440 Report

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>cope

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Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2025 03:07:50 No.16825114 Report

Quoted By: >>16826071 >>16826278 >>16826306 >>16827125 >>16827130 >>16827443 >>16828436 >>16830282 >>16830782 >>16831557 >>16843700

Time to update this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2025 04:32:47 No.16826071 Report

Quoted By:

>>16825114
Kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2025 05:05:41 No.16826278 Report

Quoted By:

>>16825114
KEK

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2025 05:10:47 No.16826306 Report

Quoted By:

>>16825114
lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2025 08:34:53 No.16827125 Report

Quoted By:

>>16825114
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2025 08:36:29 No.16827130 Report

Quoted By:

>>16825114
no Milly slide

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2025 10:35:45 No.16827443 Report

Quoted By:

>>16825114
Pops me everyfime

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2025 15:02:46 No.16828436 Report

Quoted By:

>>16825114
WHEEEEEEEEE COPE I'M HAVING FUN

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2025 15:14:20 No.16828491 Report

Quoted By: >>16828499

>>16820106
>blaming JJ
The whole show was shit, top to bottom. By the end, WCW was a bunch of dudes in t-shirts and jeans, and the millionth NWO run-in three years after people cared about the group.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2025 15:16:16 No.16828499 Report

Quoted By: >>16829255 >>16833506

>>16828491
Jarrett was an anti-draw in WCW no matter how you slice it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2025 18:03:28 No.16829255 Report

Quoted By:

>>16828499
Jarrett was one of the biggest draws in TNA. He's always been over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2025 20:38:39 No.16830282 Report

Quoted By:

>>16825114
Lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2025 21:51:57 No.16830782 Report

Quoted By:

>>16825114
Goddamn

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2025 23:49:47 No.16831551 Report

Quoted By:

>>16815138
Grim

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2025 23:50:30 No.16831557 Report

Quoted By:

>>16825114
haha look at him go

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2025 01:55:21 No.16833506 Report

Quoted By: >>16836748

>>16828499
Jarrett was a flop everywhere he went. Now he's flopping in gAyEW

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2025 02:05:44 No.16833798 Report

Quoted By:

>>16815138
MJF is literally the only person in the company that consistently reverses rating drops

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2025 02:08:42 No.16833863 Report

Quoted By:

>>16815138
>double Raw's live US viewers
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2025 03:24:16 No.16835423 Report

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>>16818132
Nah, you don't need two women's or hardcore belts. Just have the one women's belt and have the hardcore belt be intergender. Also just give the "International / Continental" the Elite namesake and rename the C2 to the E2 "Elite Endeavor" Tournament. Tony knows nothing about branding.
>AEW World Title
>AEW Elite Title (International / Continental)
>AEW Television Title
>AEW Tag Team Title
>AEW Women's Title
>AEW Xtreeme! Title (open gender division, hardcore stips)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2025 06:01:59 No.16836721 Report

Quoted By:

>>16815138
Grim. Dire even. Tragic, maybe. Pathetic for sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2025 06:06:20 No.16836748 Report

Quoted By: >>16836899

>>16833506
Jarrett is the last face you see before your favorite wrestling promotion dies

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2025 06:29:42 No.16836899 Report

Quoted By:

>>16836748
Midjf sucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2025 11:23:42 No.16837954 Report

Quoted By:

>>16815157
That's because no one watches on Max

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2025 12:42:56 No.16838146 Report

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>beats Raw two weeks in a row
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2025 13:22:11 No.16838249 Report

Quoted By: >>16842714

>>16815262
Boomer BBT fans are dying off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2025 17:17:40 No.16839404 Report

Quoted By:

>>16815138
When BBT leaves TBS this year, gAyEW is fucked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2025 20:04:04 No.16840425 Report

Quoted By:

>>16815138
Pigcrip is going to seethe when he sees this bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2025 22:24:04 No.16841296 Report

Quoted By:

>>16815138
Grim

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jan 2025 02:09:18 No.16842714 Report

Quoted By:

>>16838249
Also trannies

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jan 2025 05:35:56 No.16843700 Report

Quoted By:

>>16825114
Tony getting ready for the winter olympics

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jan 2025 07:42:17 No.16844191 Report

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>>16815138

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