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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 17:18:02 No.17012939 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>17012948 >>17012955 >>17012970 >>17012971 >>17013050 >>17013104 >>17013360 >>17013364 >>17013459

I thought NXT Black & Gold was always a way better show than Dynamite, and I don't really understand how they lost the war.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 17:19:04 No.17012948 Report

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>>17012939
New toy syndrome, anti-fed smark mentality, general fickleness

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 17:19:33 No.17012955 Report

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>>17012939
You thought Adam Smol vs Kyle O Faggot was entertaining?

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 17:20:28 No.17012961 Report

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>>17012955
Tony sure did

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 17:21:03 No.17012968 Report

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>>17012955
Adam Cole was booked a whole lot better on NXT, even if you don't like him as a wrestler. And if you want to say the show was all dimeless midgets in this era, the same criticism would be true for AEW.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 17:21:18 No.17012970 Report

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>>17012939
No it really wasnt

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 17:21:26 No.17012971 Report

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>>17012939
Lack of star power. It was a better product then AEW, even by smark standards. But you can only go so far when your top guys are DIY and Cole for eternity.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 17:24:11 No.17012992 Report

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>>17012968
AEW in the early years was exciting at least because it had real buzz and the wars made it fun, it was peak /asp/

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 17:24:11 No.17012993 Report

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4 main reasons
>it was going through the motions, a lot of the talent had been there forever and had exhausted all their good matches so things felt really samey

>the presentation was really bad, it looked like a sex dungeon full of chains and skulls and the lighting was so dark

>the people moving up the card were really dimeless, they were pushing pete dunne, killian dain, kyle o reilly, timothy thatcher, karrion kross and kushida

>the show was just kinda boring. there were no crazy stories or angles and it took itself far too seriously

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 17:29:15 No.17013033 Report

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If Velveteen Dream didnt get cancelled by the allegations we now know are fake and he had slayed the UE Adam Cole reign of terror, NXT shoot could have won and I stand by that

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 17:31:12 No.17013050 Report

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>>17012939
the end of black and gold literally had vince steal all of hhh's golden boys and do nothing with them on the main roster. vince was sabotaging hhh then blaming him for it. they went from making new stars and excellent PPVs to goofy shit. no wonder he got ousted from the company.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 17:32:51 No.17013070 Report

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>>17013050
Nobody wants to watch midgets doing movez for 30 minutes.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 17:34:06 No.17013085 Report

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>>17013033
The IWC gets so fucking pissy when you call them out for getting their witch hunts wrong

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 17:36:14 No.17013104 Report

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>>17012939
Agreed OP, but it was catering to an audience that had predaliction to complain about Vince Booking.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 17:38:40 No.17013127 Report

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>>17012955
Yeah I liked UE. Smaller guys worked in NXT and it has been the best wrestling show year in and year out from 2016-present. Small wrestlers work in fed based around workrate marks. It wasn't booked ironically, it was giving people what they wanted in a serious fashion.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 17:41:32 No.17013153 Report

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>>17013127
100%. It was the perfect show for that style of wrestling. That *wink wink do you get it* bullshit that AEW was doing from day one was always a huge turnoff for me. NXT was a great show.

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ProWresBlog !1JPtDnh8WA Fri 14 Feb 2025 17:54:39 No.17013237 Report

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It was a good show week to week and NXT UK was even better. The show was a little on the boring side though and had a lot of charisma-less wrestlers who were never going to make it to the main roster.

It just came out during peak WWEPTSD. Any people who liked what AEW was doing were not going to give it a chance no matter how good it was.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 17:57:49 No.17013259 Report

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Probably because it was garbage and everything drones claim to hate about AEW. New toys all the time, yummy wummy debuts and 'bangers'

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 18:07:17 No.17013311 Report

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>>17012955
Yes. In NXT, UE were booked seriously and had great story lines. They were presented in a way that minimized their weaknesses and accentuated their positives.
In AEW they're allowed to do whatever stupid thing that one of the gang comes up with even if it's counter productive to business like rolling around in a wheel chair for months on end screeching ADAM!! ever week or dressing like a hobo and not staying in shape.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 18:10:50 No.17013341 Report

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>>17013311
AEW is providing an excellent demonstration of why wrestlers shouldn't have creative control. Or at the very least their ideas need to be run through a filter.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 18:13:37 No.17013360 Report

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>>17012939
Black and Gold was already stagnant by 2019. You had the same guys taking up most of the oxygen and they were all saying they'd rather quit than be called up. Then it got even worse going live and two hours every week. Triple H had ridiculous special matches and pulled out all the stops every week and couldn't compete with a mildly enjoyable Dynamite.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 18:13:59 No.17013364 Report

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>>17012939
That's because you're a smarkfaggot who lost touch with reality, both AEW and NXT were basically identical but AEW had the novelty factor which gave them the edge.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 18:22:06 No.17013425 Report

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>>17013033
Sure Velveteen. "Fake", sure...

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 18:28:08 No.17013459 Report

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>>17012939
Both B&G NXT and AEW have proven without a doubt that nobody gave a fuck about post-2010 ROH bullshit and NJPW was the actual dimes factory while their stars were still healthy and cared. The only exception is the Briscoes who were GOAT tier and never left ROH

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