>>17552774People will say he was held back but the truth is he has always been shit
>good sellerGoofy overselling is not good selling. He came up in the 2008-2012 era when everyone new was shit and the older guys were leaving/retiring so he was just an ok guy from a bad bunch. Could not compare to guys in the 2013-2016 era (Bryan, Shield guys, AJ etc.) and also had a one dimensional character and never cut a good promo. People are right that he had to leave in around 2015, but not to prove himself, instead to totally reinvent his character, look, ring style, promo style, and make people forget his stink. Probably would have had to stay in Japan for 5 years minimum for this