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During Wrestling Observer Radio, Meltzer broke down Cargill’s loss to Stratton in under seven minutes, calling attention to how the company’s booking of her has changed drastically in just a few months.>“Even up to, you know, I would say, two months, three months ago… You know, I remember just having some messaging with someone very high up in WWE and talking about the top people in the future. One of the names that was on it was Jade. You know, from the day Jade came in, Jade was not brought in to be a 50/50 wrestler. Jade was not brought in to be a mid-card wrestler. You could see the way she was brought in — she was brought in to be a superstar. you know, and, you know, like when I was told the women’s future of the company, it was Rhea Ripley and Jade Cargill. So she lost tonight. She lost with a moonsault. You know, someone like that… it’s not the loss and it’s not the end of the world for her or anything like that. You know, but the person who I was told about two months ago is not losing in whatever it was, seven minutes to a moonsault to Tiffany Stratton.” >“You can tell — you know, and everyone will deny this — you know, but by how they booked it… I don’t think anyone is talking about her in the same light as Rhea Ripley today. You know, And they were. When I saw that finish… You know, they don’t see her as The Ultimate Warrior anymore, put it that way. And they did at first.”
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>ctrl + f “you know” wow what a great communicator he should have a radio show
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>>18440190 she obviously doesn't care about wrestling and wants to use it as a stepping stone into hollywood
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>>18440190 >Jade was not brought in to be a mid-card wrestler. You could see the way she was brought in — she was brought in to be a superstar. This was such a dumb decision to bring her to the main roster. If you watched her in AEW for 5 seconds, the first thing that comes to your mind is that she needed to learn how to work, and then if you watched any of her segments, you could tell that she needed to learn how to cut better promos. Idk why they didn't put her in NXT for a year or two.
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>>18440201 Somehow his writing is even worse.
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Jade is a trash wrestler, always has been. I understand they want to build more talent but as far as black female wrestlers go Bianca mogs her in every way
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>>18440204 A few years ago there was a behind the scenes feature on her with some black influencer lady, showing her how the women in AEW train with Dustin, and they had them do a promo battle and this chick ate Jade alive. She's clever on twitter and that's it
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>>18440202 She can't act though
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Jade was brought in when diversity hiring was at its peak no? Now that meritocracy is slowly coming back her stock is hitting all time lows. So, she either learns how to cut a promo or she puts a obese smark pleaser match, if she doesn't she's fucked.
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>>18440238 And here goes the dumbass saying she was hired because of her skin color. Jade was hired and brought to the main roster because of her look.
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Jade can't act, she can't promo, she can't wrestle. All she has is a really sculpted body Triple H tried to make her legitimate through booking but its not working out. She would have been better off being a Goldberg-like attraction though I'm not sure audiences these days would buy into it any more
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Before you all ask, no, we're not interested in taking her back. You piggies keep her.
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>>18440190 ya'll realize that they can make this shit up and no one "from the higher ups" won't bother to disagree?
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>>18440306 Vaquer isn't out jobbing in 7 minutes. They've obviously realized Jade isn't it
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>>18440190 >you know, and, you know, like Anyone who listens to this low iq boomer is a fucking moron
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Come home Jade
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She has been on every PLE and won queen of the ring.
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>>18440501 jobbing to tiffany seems like a punishment from Tko
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>>18440503 Kek and she didnt even look particularly strong in that match either, Tiff beat her clean as a whistle
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>>18440544 She looked pretty strong for most of it. The kayfabe mistake was her pinning Tiffany close to the ropes and then going for a Jaded from the top rope which Tiffy countered.
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>>18440544 Do you guys even watch the shit you talk about? Jade hit her finisher and pulled Tiffany's legs back too far so that her feet ended up in the ropes and stopped the pin. They talked about it and showed a replay after the match. That's how you protect the loser of a face-face match.
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Is Jade Cargill Tony's greatest booking success? He took a low talent woman with a great look and made WWE (and a lot of other people) think she was going to be the next Chyna
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>>18440571 Looked completely retarded and only made Jade look dumb not strong
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>>18440503 Wow you mean Tiffany who has like 12 wins this year got ANOTHER win?
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>>18440190 Triple H has officially fumbled Jade
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>>18440581 Jade's main appeal has always been her dimes look. It's not hard to see how a promoter can see her and think they can make her a big star but unfortunately she's too lacking in the other areas and hasn't improved fast enough. I do think she has gotten a bit better in the ring but she's still not particularly good.
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>>18440581 Both Jade and Mariah, shows Tony knows how to book around talents strengths and weaknesses unlike Paul
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Jade just hasn't shown any improvement since her AEW run and it's clear she isn't going to be more than what she is already. I don't know why WWE signed her when it was obvious that she doesn't care. I almost hope she makes it in Hollywood so I don't have to see her anymore.
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>>18440190 no fucking refunds, bitch, you can't come back, we don't want you anymore
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>>18440609 She has a 11/10 look but is 4/10 in the ring. The only way you can make that work is book her as a monster/special attraction like AEW did but she got too uppity and thought she was worth more
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>>18440609 >Jade just hasn't shown any improvement since her AEW run Yes she has.
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all shitposting aside, shes too green for the highest female belt
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>>18440190 Wow big Dave reporting something we are seeing with our own eyes. Nice, well worth the subscription
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>>18440655 Nope, not one bit.
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>>18440609 >Jade just hasn't shown any improvement since her AEW run Just further evidence that the PC and developmental system under Paul absolutely fucking sucks, he doesn't know how to train up new talent he just relies on hiring Indy veterans
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>>18440190 They never did. We took her just to bother you.
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>>18440209 Bianca has been around too long and Jade just impresses me more with what she did in AEW. Eventually Parker will get called up and be pretty much just like Bianca except far less annoying.
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>>18440323 >They've obviously realized Jade isn't it we are talking about womens wrestling here guys its all terrible
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>>18440684 Retard. She never went to the PC
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>>18440209 Those big juicy lips work me into such a shoot.
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>>18440209 fine jungle bunny
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>>18440253 That type of booking doesn't work anymore because people don't want to see short one sided squash matches. It's become apparent to fans that it's just a sign that they can't work, plus it's just boring
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>>18440735 Ryback could pull it off.
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>>18440190 I just don't get why they didn't turn her heel. I don't think she's over to the point where that would be difficult to do and it would help hide her lack of personality
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>>18440722 She never went to NXT, she still spent 6 months at the PC
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>>18440735 It worked in AEW, worked so well that hunter paid out the ass to sign jade and all of you were excited and saying she would be the next big star of wwe's women's division
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>>18440204 She's got the Batista problem. She looks too good so she's either needs to become a top star or she's never going to make it. She really needed three years in NXT.
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good, this woman just seems to not get professional wrestling at all, everyone talks about her being limited in the ring, but not enough are talking how comically bad she is at promos, its always the most generic babyface 'I will beat you" delivered in one of the most wooden ways possible, which is the real killer of any main event potential I can't believe she unironically wants to break into hollywood when wrestling promos are essentially acting on easy mode
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>>18440190 take a shot every time you read 'you know'
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Jade sucked in AEW too. She wasn't over then or now
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>>18440804 Batista got to the top of pro wrestling by passing the airport test in flying colors and having an intense power based moveset to compliment his look, his promos never were that strong to begin with which is ironic that he proved to be moderately successful as an actor
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>>18440190 WWE didn't view her as a big star the moment they saw her in the ring.
They got carnied into thinking she had a lot of training and was professional.
What they signed to that contract was the female Goldberg, with even less training than he had and with a bigger ego.
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>>18440209 bianca is shoot beautiful
very beautiful black woman who i'd betray my race for
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>>18440544 Tiffany is 14-0 this year. She isn't dropping the belt unless it's to somebody like Rhea, Bianca, Iyo or Stephanie.
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>>18440921 >They got carnied Nice cope. They knew exactly what they were paying for, and that was to stick it to AEW, which was smart overall. They only ones who got carnied in the situation are Tony and Jade. Tony, for losing his female Warrior due to Cody. And Jade, for thinking she'd get Cody treatment and not realizing she was just a pawn.
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Literally no one is on Rhea's level. What a nothingburger.
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>>18440190 >MELTZER WON We know.
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>>18440957 Many whitebois are saying this
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>>18440957 i want to march with blacks against white oppression with bianca
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>>18440874 Making her a Babyface was retarded, she cut good heel promos in AEW
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>>18440959 What a stupid booking decision
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I mentioned this in a previous Jade thread, but these retards should have thought long and hard about signing her. She's green as hell and doesn't plan on learning to get better. She thinks that since she has cameras on her- even more now that she's in WWE, it automatically makes her a valuable asset to the company and raises her chances of getting acting roles because she has better connections. But Jade fails to realize that just looking fit won't get you anywhere really. Unless you're the israeli rat known as Gal Gadot, you need to actually know how to act in order to get roles.
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Racist chud ass company
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>>18440190 Outside of her look, she fuckin sucks
Only good thing she's good for is porn at this point
unless she is getting railed into the ground by 5 white guys I don't give a shit.
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>>18440190 When is he going to view assplay as not a big star?
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>Literal superhero Jade isn't a big star anymore >Whiny bird girl Lyra is This 100% tracks with WWE's tarded logic
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>>18441450 Again, people at NY and Jersey thought that she was a porn actress during her photoshoot at the statue of liberty
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you remember that report about her being mad that cody too busy to train her? lol
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>>18445506 QRD?
think I missed that one
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>>18440581 She had an ok match with Statlander
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>you know I feel like I'm gonna have a fucking aneurysm reading this
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>>18445506 this bitch did not seriously expect the reigning WWE Champion to be training her on his schedule right?
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>>18440209 God I love Bianca so much
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>>18440202 Not Hollywood but influencing I think. Or OF. She was the first one I thought of when the report came out about backstage the women are prepping for it.
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>>18440190 first paragraph
> you know, >You know, >You know, >you know, and, you know, >You know, >You know, second paragraph
>you know, >you know, >You know, >You know, This calls for Meltzer reading That Text from Vince:
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>>18440202 Filming one of those low budget productions in Poland that is willing to hire Kevin Spacey but instead with Jonathan Majors is really funny
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>>18440601 Why they put Mariah in NXT and not had her be an instant edgy villian on raw or smackdown just continuing were she left off confused the hell out of me
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>>18451247 especially with the lack of top heels for the women, and NXT being packed to the brim with girls that should be fighting for the top belt
did mariah debut before or after liv got hurt? even dumber if they sent her to NXT if it was after
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>>18440735 It can work fine for most people in the building and watching at home. Most of their luchadores and guys like Johnny Gargano don't get over with the casuals because those types never dominate and are just seen as lesser tier wrestlers.
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>>18449474 she already was a fitness influencer iirc, along with some cosplay and other stuff. bitch deadass thinks she's storm from x-men. she wants hollywood but idk if hollywood gives a fuck. they can just cgi muscles onto some bitch who can actually act instead.
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>>18451247 if its like with Vaquer Mariah probably had the option to go the main roster immediatly but chose to go through NXT first, and they do need a new top heel when Jacy drops the belt
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rhea is worse than jade and much harder to look at than jade
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fuck this traitor, Tony gave her the world.
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2 years of WWE booking is all it takes to destroy a giftwrapped MADE superstar.
>>18440804 lmao e-drones really think that the forward rolls center is useful for anything.
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>>18440894 In GOTG he talks like a caveman. In Blade Runner 2049, he speaks a couple of sentences, and has a big fight, in Dune, he yells every line. It's still about his look.
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>>18452748 >I only consume the most mass market slop Pathetic
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>>18440190 kek Tony keeps winning
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She needs a giant futa cock gimmick to get over
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>>18441450 They signed her to maintain an AEW exodus, and she signed because Cody promised her the world.
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>>18453224 Why did Cody betray a Kween
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AEW for all of it's booking faults, like refusing to pivot on Jade's long title run because it HAD to be Kris who beat her, did otherwise book around Jade's weaknesses well. Simple squash matches most of the time, then paired with one of the more experienced women who could carry her and help her improve. Her last match in AEW was her best one there because Kris carried but also because Jade had worked through trial by fire by this point. Importantly though, this way of booking still had her feeling like a big deal. WWE's method for covering for someone being green is to just put them in a tag team and stand on the apron. Everything about Jade being special faded because she became just another face in the crowd of a forgotten division rather than a special attraction. And ultimately she's still remained at the same spot where she can only work longer matches with women good enough to carry good matches out of most wrestlers. The "special attraction woman becomes just another bimbo" route has also happened with Jordynne Grace in NXT.
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>>18440190 >memeltzer Don't you have a more serious source?
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>>18452128 But she speaks English?
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Jade has been doing this for 5 years and has made 0 improvement
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>>18454548 The female Nathan Jones
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>>18440190 Meanwhile, Queen Aminata and Thekla put on bangers on throwaway Collision tapings. This just proves that the PC can't create stars, only the indies can.
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>>18440190 imagine jade with a hardcore onlyfans, (un)fortunately she's happily married and a mother
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>>18440224 got the link? who was it
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>>18455603 >(un)fortunately she's happily married and a mother I don't think you realise how many of only fans whores are married with children
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strap a fucking rocket on Chelsea RIGHT NOW
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>>18455603 fuck that. I would pop for Naomi nudes desu
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>>18440957 >>18440209 and then she starts talking like she came out of the ghetto two weeks ago
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>>18454548 She improved a bit
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>>18440190 >I remember just having some messaging with someone very high up in WWE LOL