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Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2025 14:47:18 No.18903609 View View Reply Original Report

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Tournaments do not draw in wrestling

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2025 14:49:02 No.18903620 Report

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They do, but they have to be utilize to push a mid carder into a main eventer

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Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2025 14:49:28 No.18903621 Report

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>>18903609
Everything

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Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2025 14:49:41 No.18903624 Report

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>>18903609
>Tournaments do not draw in wrestling

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Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2025 14:50:05 No.18903629 Report

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>>18903609
Pricing for families creates future generations of fans who will spend money

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Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2025 14:51:09 No.18903635 Report

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>>18903609
Putting ads in the ring is turbo gay and looks like shit.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2025 14:52:15 No.18903640 Report

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>>18903609
What about Deadly Games?

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Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2025 14:53:44 No.18903649 Report

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>>18903609
Watching white women make love to hung wakandan gentlemen is hot

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Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2025 14:55:03 No.18903655 Report

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>>18903624
Would have worked just as well if it was Stone Cold beating Roberts in a regular 1-on-1 match.
>>18903640
The storylines were the selling point, not the tournament itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2025 14:56:03 No.18903659 Report

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>>18903655
>The storylines were the selling point, not the tournament itself.
But the tournament was the best possible vehicle for that story hence showing their worth.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2025 14:56:05 No.18903660 Report

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Funny, a tournament helped make Hulk Hogan
https://prowrestling.fandom.com/wiki/NJPW_IWGP_League_1983

Maybe American companies just don't do them right.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2025 14:57:09 No.18903662 Report

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>>18903659
Yeah, that's what these retards don't understand.
Tournament isn't about throwing random matches together.
It's a storytelling vehicle. These brainlets literally can't understand storytelling beyond "guy steals other guy's bracelet"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2025 14:57:41 No.18903666 Report

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Am>>18903660
>Maybe American companies just don't do them right.
They don't, at least post territories. Tournaments are great.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2025 14:58:19 No.18903668 Report

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>>18903666
Based trips of unholy truth, Satan

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Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2025 15:03:31 No.18903685 Report

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>>18903666
tournaments are anti draws, which is why no one cares about the gook wrestling feds anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2025 15:09:37 No.18903710 Report

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>>18903609
Tourneys can draw if you put actual fucking stakes and story into them. KOTR 96 was the small flint needed to add more to Austin's character until he eventually could feud with Bret.
KOTR 97 helped solidify Mankind's face turn and kickstart the first-ever Hunter-Foley feud.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2025 15:31:52 No.18903809 Report

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>>18903609
He was 100% right about wrestling ditching the serious sports presentation and being an outlandish tv show. It took him a while to find the right balance between silly and crazy but once he got there it was the pinnacle of the medium

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Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2025 17:59:28 No.18904478 Report

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To post an unpopular opinion in current year /pw/: the BOLAs were neat up until 2013

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Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2025 21:52:27 No.18905855 Report

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>>18903710
Good point, although those two in particular would've succeeded anyway. The redpill is that King of the Ring stopped mattering when only heels were allowed to win. Absolutely backwards logic along with babyfaces winning MITB

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Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2025 21:53:32 No.18905864 Report

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>>18903609
Not my problem.
Every wrestling promotion needs a tournament.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2025 22:01:30 No.18905918 Report

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>>18905855
>The redpill is that King of the Ring stopped mattering when only heels were allowed to win
I feel that is very fair. If I recall, at the time of the last original KOTR event, Ken Shamrock (1998) was the last babyface to win KOTR.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2025 22:06:58 No.18905958 Report

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Deadly Game is objectively the best thing Russo ever booked and that was an entire one-night tournament that made sense.

SCSA won a nothing tournament and was wrestling Bret Hart a couple of months later off that.

Macho Man Randy Savage was made at WM 4.

Tournaments work, desu. WWE just stopped using them for whatever reason. You could even argue guys like Angle and Lesnar weren't taken as seriously until their KOTR wins. Billy Gunn is legit the only real bad spot.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2025 22:07:23 No.18905962 Report

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As I recall, most of WM4 consisted of a tournament and winning that tournament is what truly put Randy Savage over. So nah, Vince knew that tournaments can be good if done right. But above all, Vince was right about one thing, good matches alone just aren't enough. You have to have good storytelling too, or else all the good matches in the world don't matter.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2025 22:20:45 No.18906033 Report

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>>18903649
>t.Vince

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Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2025 22:22:34 No.18906042 Report

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>>18903609
he's kind of right
tournaments don't really work in places with strong face/heel divides.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2025 22:41:40 No.18906162 Report

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>>18903609
>No ads in the ring
>Not breaking kayfabe as much
>humiliating wrestlers that get uppity so the roster knows their place as employees

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Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2025 22:59:33 No.18906280 Report

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>>18903624
That’s a promo nobody gives a fuck that he was king of the ring. None of the shirts said king of the Ring Steve Austin it said Austin 316. He could’ve cut that promo after a match with Jake on any other show. Literally nobody by the time he was super popular in like 98 99 even had a clue that he ever was king of the Ring because they didn’t mention it. It wasn’t like a giant thing they drove home.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2025 23:01:53 No.18906296 Report

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It’s genuinely annoying to share this Earth WWE fans. Of course tournaments have drawn in wrestling. They’ve withdrawn money outside WWE but you can’t tell that to them because they’ve been so brainwashed. They’ll just tell you that that’s not wrestling or it didn’t draw enough money to count. Tournaments have drawn well in Japan. There needs to be a WWE only board and a pro wrestling board.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2025 01:10:00 No.18907174 Report

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>>18903609
Everything.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2025 01:15:31 No.18907213 Report

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>>18903609
ads on the ring is the one I always think about

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Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2025 02:11:45 No.18907654 Report

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>Watch CMLL
>No Adds in ring

Feels good man

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Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2025 02:13:45 No.18907662 Report

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He had contempt for edrones, which is always appropriate.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2025 02:20:14 No.18907716 Report

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Deciding to move on from Austin because he wasn't drawing anymore and feeding him to Lesnar.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2025 06:28:36 No.18909338 Report

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Tournaments with cold matches and zero background story dont work. Look at Dragonball tournament sagas, the BEST fights are the ones that have a story around It.

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