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Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 14:40:37 No.19483357 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>19483363 >>19483434 >>19483519 >>19483525 >>19483596 >>19483687 >>19483898 >>19483934 >>19484191 >>19485744 >>19485785 >>19485805 >>19485822

Total anti-smark victory.

Cry about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 14:41:48 No.19483363 Report

Quoted By: >>19483368 >>19483382 >>19483401 >>19483404 >>19483498 >>19484269 >>19484271 >>19484396 >>19484426 >>19485729 >>19485903

>>19483357
>a guy who says never give up for twenty years inexplicably gives up

it’s fucking retarded and you know it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 14:43:08 No.19483368 Report

Quoted By: >>19483375 >>19483384 >>19483406

>>19483363
>Inexplicably
He was being choked the hardest he ever has been. Gunther is just that strong

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 14:45:42 No.19483375 Report

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>>19483368
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 14:46:59 No.19483382 Report

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>>19483363
I thought that was the one thing that was wrong, He should've faded.

It would've meant that his spirit never gave up, but his body did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 14:47:14 No.19483384 Report

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>>19483368
This part is very important.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 14:50:38 No.19483401 Report

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>>19483363
Nazis are making a comeback, it's fitting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 14:51:08 No.19483404 Report

Quoted By: >>19483412 >>19483482 >>19483502 >>19485887

>>19483363
I'm actually one of those people who like the idea of wrestlers going out with a loss. I mean, if you win and never win again, you can do nothing with that going forward. At least in a situation like this, Gunther can use it and say he legitimately made John Cena do the one thing he never would, give up. It's a good type of heat. Kids will hate him. Fuck, some retarded adults will hate him too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 14:51:30 No.19483406 Report

Quoted By: >>19483511

>>19483368
You mean that choke that he had already escaped from like 7 times in this match?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 14:52:15 No.19483412 Report

Quoted By: >>19483557

>>19483404
>if you win and never win again
I meant to say "if you win and never wrestle again". Looks like I am the retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 14:54:20 No.19483424 Report

Quoted By: >>19483442 >>19483608

Only smarks liked the ending. Justifying it as "that's what retirement matches are about, putting over the next generation blah blah blah". No casual gives a fuck about that, they just want the babyface to win

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 14:55:13 No.19483434 Report

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>>19483357
>anti-smark victory
Words just don't have meanings anymore, huh?
Anti-smarks are the ones who are upset. There's nothing more smark than "tradition says you gotta go out on your back and out the new gen over. It's best for the business"
Anti-smarks dont care about backstage politics and shit like that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 14:56:25 No.19483440 Report

Quoted By: >>19484235

>every fan is a smark now
grim

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 14:56:35 No.19483442 Report

Quoted By: >>19483608

>>19483424
That's a good way to cover for man children who can't handle the fact that sometimes the good guy loses. It doesn't matter if you liked it. You don't have to like everything. Cry more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 14:56:44 No.19483444 Report

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Remember milly?

Same shit

They can scream I love you from the rooftops but can't share one spot with mw winning

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:03:21 No.19483482 Report

Quoted By: >>19483911 >>19485916

>>19483404
nobody hates gunther after this. everybody hates HHH.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:06:18 No.19483498 Report

Quoted By: >>19483513

>>19483363
>inexplicably
lmao
Even in kayfabe, he's in retirement mode. He is quite literally giving up his career. He was at the complete end of his rope, while already past his prime, against an opponent who's arguably in their own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:06:39 No.19483502 Report

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>>19483404
i think cena should have lost but the way he lost was retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:06:42 No.19483503 Report

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>indy darling goes over Cena Wins Lol as sports entertainment is declared dead
>anti-smark
cope of a dying cult

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:07:50 No.19483511 Report

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>>19483406
Yes he kept escaping and fighting and Gunther kept kicking out. Gunther wouldn't let Cena go out unless he made him tap. The only thing they missed in the match was show that. Have Gunther let go when the ref does the arm drop count spot. Let Cena recover and lock him right back in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:07:57 No.19483513 Report

Quoted By: >>19483692

>>19483498
that’s fine, but it makes no sense that he would give up. his character is literally to NEVER GIVE UP. That doesn’t mean its okay to give up when x, y and z happen. It means never give up.

Why is this so hard for you retards to understand?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:09:06 No.19483519 Report

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>>19483357
> Total anti-smark victory.
The smarks on Reddit squaredcircle are the ones praising this stupid shit you retards lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:09:47 No.19483525 Report

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>>19483357
didn't watch lol lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:13:01 No.19483553 Report

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If you remember that in real fights it’s dangerous to deprive your brain of oxygen, old man John was simply throwing in the towel. After an evening’s worth of showcasing all-star talent, one of the stalwart veterans hangs up his boots for the last time. It was pure art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:13:33 No.19483557 Report

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>>19483412
> Looks like I am the retard.
We already knew that from your takes. Gunther is already a made man it’s like when Brock broke the streak it didn’t do anything for him or the guys who beat him. Brock squashing Cena made him more than breaking the streak because since it began the suplex city gimmick that made him seem more unbeatable if they did that before he wouldn’t have needed to beat taker if he beat Cena at extreme rules especially since the undertaker kept wrestling after that for years lol fucking idiot

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Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:17:57 No.19483596 Report

Quoted By: >>19483613 >>19485747

>>19483357
Meanwhile the anti-smark general

Triple H just fucking sucks, get over it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:19:01 No.19483608 Report

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>>19483424
> No casual gives a fuck about that, they just want the babyface to win
Exactly this has mainstream attention with guys like faze and ishowspeed mad about it especially when people know it’s fake and has predetermined outcomes and you book it like this anyway. The number one thing people are talking about after this isn’t Gunther it’s triple h and his shitty booking this entire year. Not even Cena himself. How does any of that help? People no longer want to watch. Have we forgotten that not all heat is good heat. Go away X-Pac heat is bad you dumbasses like below:
>>19483442

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Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:19:03 No.19483610 Report

Quoted By: >>19483622

Smarks couldn't be happier about this match. Marks are upset and anti-smarks are suicidal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:19:13 No.19483613 Report

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>>19483596
Kek, worked hard by The Cerebral Assassin

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:20:34 No.19483622 Report

Quoted By: >>19483646

>>19483610
anyone with a brain is pointing out how stupid it is that the “never give up” guy gives up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:22:45 No.19483646 Report

Quoted By: >>19483654

>>19483622
The never give up guy knew it was time to give up. He tried to get out of Gunther's grasp but realized his time was up.

It's extremely simple storytelling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:23:54 No.19483654 Report

Quoted By: >>19483681 >>19483686

>>19483646
nope, that’s fucking stupid. never give up doesn’t mean sometimes give up. it’s retarded and everyone can see it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:26:18 No.19483681 Report

Quoted By: >>19483693 >>19483702

>>19483654
He doesn't "sometimes" give up. He never gave up, until he knew he had no choice. He gave up and retired all in the same breath.

You're a mark, and that's cool. It's still real to you. Smarks are happy with this match and the result though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:26:29 No.19483686 Report

Quoted By: >>19483704 >>19483713

>>19483654
nah, you’re the retard. it wasn’t “sometimes give up”, it was he “finally gave up.” lemme ask you a question anon, is this the first time a figure in your life has broken their promise? you fags sound like children kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:26:47 No.19483687 Report

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>>19483357
>total anti-smark victory
>by being a total self-mark

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:26:58 No.19483692 Report

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>>19483513
He also used to say his time is NOW. It doesn't make any sense for it to suddenly mean his time was THEN. I don't know how retards have a hard time understanding this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:27:01 No.19483693 Report

Quoted By: >>19483708 >>19483710 >>19483715

>>19483681
he DID give up, dumbass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:28:00 No.19483702 Report

Quoted By: >>19483715

>>19483681
Tapping out is literally giving up

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:28:02 No.19483704 Report

Quoted By: >>19483710

>>19483686
no amount of damage control is going to make it a good decision dumbass. he should have faded unconscious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:28:24 No.19483708 Report

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>>19483693
No other option, is been over ten years of this relentless bad booking

Supercena chants lol...

An insult his whole career

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:28:39 No.19483710 Report

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>>19483693
>>19483704
we don’t sign our posts around here

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:28:56 No.19483711 Report

Quoted By: >>19484341

Before the match
>Marks
Cena never gives up!
>Smarks
I hope Cena gives up.
>Anti-Smarks
Heh, dumb smarks... Cena never gives up!

Total Smark Victory

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:29:06 No.19483713 Report

Quoted By: >>19483830

>>19483686
you literally just explained the character assassination this was by comparing it to a broken promise. ABSOLUTE RETARD

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:29:23 No.19483715 Report

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>>19483693
>>19483702
Yeah, anon said he gave up. You're not even reading posts anymore, you're malding so much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:43:09 No.19483830 Report

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>>19483713
you heart is broken because your hero lost kwab

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Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:51:11 No.19483898 Report

Quoted By: >>19484158 >>19484180 >>19484242 >>19484341 >>19485799

>>19483357
>Total anti-smark victory.
>A former PWG Champion tapped out John Cena whilst diehard "sports entertainment" fans were calling for Paul's head

You scjerk guys need to see a doctor about your undiagnosed schizophrenia

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:54:04 No.19483911 Report

Quoted By:

>>19483482
but taht's because they're too open about who books the show

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 15:58:36 No.19483934 Report

Quoted By:

>>19483357
>Total anti-smark victory.
Nigga what

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 16:27:02 No.19484117 Report

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>Hitler tapped out John Cena (w/smile on his face) in the series finale of wrestling

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 16:31:43 No.19484158 Report

Quoted By:

>>19483898
cooked 'em

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 16:35:00 No.19484180 Report

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>>19483898
cooked that pig

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 16:36:20 No.19484191 Report

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>>19483357
>being a smark or anti-smark
>not being a chad casual fan like me
gross dweebs lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 16:38:52 No.19484219 Report

Quoted By: >>19484252 >>19484336

Are people seriously crying about this finish? Cena constantly said he was going to go out with a loss. What were people hoping for? Cena to go super Cena mode and win, then leave forever? The revisionist history on Cena is insane, holy shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 16:41:41 No.19484235 Report

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>>19483440
The only ones that aren't are the children who are too young to see its all bullshit. Its been that way for decades at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 16:42:42 No.19484242 Report

Quoted By: >>19484263

>>19483898
So when is Shockwave airing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 16:43:51 No.19484252 Report

Quoted By: >>19485772

>>19484219
Why do you paid TKO shills have to lie and argue against shit nobody said?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 16:45:35 No.19484263 Report

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>>19484242
cooked that pig

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 16:46:04 No.19484269 Report

Quoted By: >>19484279

>>19483363
This. There's no defending it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 16:46:19 No.19484271 Report

Quoted By: >>19484289

>>19483363
Cena knew he was beat so he admitted it and went out with humility. It was good storytelling and it makes you seethe because you're too retarded to understand it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 16:47:50 No.19484279 Report

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>>19484269
The four million dollar gate is our defense.

Cope. :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 16:49:52 No.19484289 Report

Quoted By: >>19484368

>>19484271
Why the fuck would cena admit he is beat when his whole character is never giving up. I swear smarks have never seen a film before and have no idea how writing is supposed to work they only know PWG spotfests lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 16:56:08 No.19484336 Report

Quoted By: >>19484465

>>19484219
>Cena constantly said he was going to go out with a loss
No he didn’t

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 16:57:25 No.19484341 Report

Quoted By: >>19484380

>>19483711
>>19483898
>Smarks get control of the business
>Wrestling is deader than ever
Anti-smarks WON

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 17:00:27 No.19484368 Report

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>>19484289
Because his time has passed, he was fully exposed and seen by his opponent. He had no choice but to give up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 17:01:30 No.19484380 Report

Quoted By: >>19484412

>>19484341
>Wrestling is dead
Record profits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 17:03:37 No.19484396 Report

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>>19483363
how many times did you chant "LET'S GO CENA!" when brock suplexed him to suplex city?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 17:06:25 No.19484412 Report

Quoted By:

>>19484380
That part.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 17:08:06 No.19484426 Report

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>>19483363
That's the point. Cena giving up is the signal that his time is really up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 17:14:12 No.19484465 Report

Quoted By: >>19485433

>>19484336
In every bit of media he did, he said that the whole point of him coming back for a final run was to give back. What did people think was going to happen in his final match. Media literacy is beyond dead at this point, peoples brains a mush.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 19:40:29 No.19485433 Report

Quoted By: >>19485618

>>19484465
give back what? people wanted to see their hero one last time, they don't care about gunther - cena could have been wrestling a random stiff from the performance centre for all they cared - no lapsed fans are gonna watch raw or smackdown to see gunther. gunther gains nothing from this. in the era where the curtain is pulled back and triple h literally jerks off his booking every show with his name on the credits like a bad 90s sitcom, "retiring" a guy means nothing. wwe is not a wrestling show so the usual rules don't apply.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 20:09:33 No.19485618 Report

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>>19485433
>they don't care about Gunther.
They do now. ;)

WWE doesn't give a shit about lapsed fans coming back for one last hurrah. They want people talking about them, spreading their name in social media, getting upset just enough to maybe tune in tomorrow to see what happens next.

Nobody gives a shit about some old faggots watching their childhood hero one last time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 20:28:02 No.19485721 Report

Quoted By: >>19485751 >>19485789

>anti smark now means you like choppy workrate guy and hate the face of the giant corporation
That is the definition of a smark

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 20:29:45 No.19485729 Report

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>>19483363
this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 20:32:18 No.19485744 Report

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>>19483357
whata crazy is everyone is so mad at the ending theyre ignoring the real travesty which was cutting away from Stu for no fucking reason fucking bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 20:32:39 No.19485747 Report

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>>19483596
based russo is right again

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 20:33:18 No.19485751 Report

Quoted By:

>>19485721
smark sobbing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 20:37:54 No.19485772 Report

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>>19484252
TKO shill here, cut us a break man. We have a very hard job lately and that faggot Paul just made it 10x worse. We can't really justify this shit so we just have to go around pretending to be smarter than everyone else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 20:38:56 No.19485780 Report

Quoted By: >>19485806

i thought anti smarks are people who like yeetman

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 20:40:10 No.19485785 Report

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>>19483357
Paul could go to Epstein Island and you people would justify it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 20:40:43 No.19485789 Report

Quoted By: >>19485816 >>19485921

>>19485721
> hate the face of the giant corporation
No one hates Cody. Wait you think the guy that’s literally retiring is the face of the company?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 20:42:28 No.19485799 Report

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>>19483898
that pork

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 20:43:53 No.19485805 Report

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>>19483357
They really didn’t like this one, huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 20:44:02 No.19485806 Report

Quoted By: >>19485839

>>19485780
Exactly anti smark means you unironically like the people the E pushes because they’re on the screen the most and have catchphrases and shit. Gunther is a definitional smark darling like omega, ZSJ etc or at least was until very recently

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 20:45:58 No.19485816 Report

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>>19485789
Yes clearly John cena is a forgotten niche favourite among internet fans only , and not a casuals favourite and the most recognisable name, because he isn’t the wwe champion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 20:47:09 No.19485822 Report

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>>19483357
>tapped out to the guy that tapped out to gay uso
Defend this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 20:49:55 No.19485839 Report

Quoted By:

>>19485806
Gunther is being pushed too but yeah he's shit. Jey is better honestly, at least he can do a splash

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 20:56:35 No.19485887 Report

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>>19483404
It's a smark industry with a smark fanbase. This kind of heat doesn't work anymore. It's lazy booking that only gets Triple H and Cena heat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 20:58:07 No.19485903 Report

Quoted By:

>>19483363
You're such a mark and you're so fucking mad about it. Jesus Christ

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 20:59:21 No.19485916 Report

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>>19483482
People harassing him in the street after say otherwise, you dumb fucking mark

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 20:59:52 No.19485921 Report

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>>19485789
>No one hates Cody. Wait you think the guy that’s literally retiring is the face of the company?
There's an easy way to compare lol they had a feud and cena was the one who got cheered

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