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Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 18:05:19 No.19672314 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>19672434 >>19672485 >>19672486 >>19672541 >>19672565 >>19672745 >>19673333 >>19675974 >>19675983 >>19676018

Another smark narrative crushed? Must be day that ending in a Y.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 18:30:23 No.19672415 Report

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killshot

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 18:32:54 No.19672434 Report

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>>19672314
Dave estimates buyrates with Google searches

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 18:42:13 No.19672485 Report

Quoted By: >>19672541 >>19675956

>>19672314
I’m glad someone’s finally calling out these unrealistic ppv buy numbers aew claims they get
I’ve been saying for a while now the numbers don’t make sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 18:42:14 No.19672486 Report

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>>19672314
>Collision does like 200k viewers
>PPV magically does 140k buys

The math isn't mathing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 18:52:09 No.19672541 Report

Quoted By: >>19672686 >>19672992

>>19672314
>>19672485
>I-it's not possible!
>why?
>it just isn't, ok?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 18:56:24 No.19672565 Report

Quoted By: >>19673355

>>19672314
The PPVs have always been excellent and TV fell off. It's not rocket science.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 18:59:08 No.19672588 Report

Quoted By: >>19672766 >>19672859

Wow, it's almost like in The Attitude Era there were casual fans who watched the TV but didn't care enough to pay real money for PPVs, whereas AEW's much smaller audience is comprised of hardcores who are much more likely to spend money on the product, giving them a higher conversion rate

t. high level mathematician

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 19:01:15 No.19672609 Report

Quoted By: >>19672656

this is retarded and sounds like someone who has no idea what he is talking about, nor even remembers the attitude era. or the 90s.

and the fact he's using the "uncle dave" thing sounds like hes an autist who spends all day listening to jim cornette

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 19:05:51 No.19672656 Report

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>>19672609
Great argument, you totally proved everything he said wrong with hard facts and data

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 19:08:31 No.19672686 Report

Quoted By: >>19676003

>>19672541
>it just isn't
Because of basically every historical precedent

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 19:09:19 No.19672697 Report

Quoted By: >>19673200 >>19673362

>I'm a bit of a stat nerd

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 19:13:02 No.19672745 Report

Quoted By: >>19672785 >>19673817

>>19672314
The PPV numbers being mostly static despite the TV audience shrinking has always just been fabrication
It makes no sense and no other TV-PPV in history has managed to retain like that, it goes beyond a statistically anomalous retention to a completely unique outlier that defies all logic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 19:14:07 No.19672766 Report

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>>19672588
i was the only kid at my school (and the 3-4 friends that would come over to watch) that saw any PPVs from the attitude era/Monday night wars
only know a few people that still watch wrestling as an adult but they all buy most PPVs, even though most of them don't watch the week to week tv

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 19:15:15 No.19672785 Report

Quoted By: >>19672795 >>19672827 >>19673027

>>19672745
you sound stressed

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 19:15:45 No.19672795 Report

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>>19672785
Yeah your mom keeps begging for my BBC

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 19:18:15 No.19672827 Report

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>>19672785
The tag team of trev and projection is undefeated in the /pw/ fed

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 19:20:17 No.19672859 Report

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>>19672588
There's also the fact that piracy and illegal means of real-time viewership were non-existent back then and incredibly easy now which is another factor that would swing PPV buys historically upward and modern downward

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 19:33:37 No.19672992 Report

Quoted By: >>19673067

>>19672541
It's not possible because the numbers are nonsensical. AEW lost 290k fans between 2023 and 2025, but Dave wants us to think they only lost 7k PPV buys? Complete bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 19:37:58 No.19673027 Report

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>>19672785
You sound like you're trying to damage control Dave's blatantly fabricated numbers but you can't actually defend them so you're struggling to think of anything to say and coming up empty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 19:41:55 No.19673067 Report

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>>19672992
Dave has the marks believing that AEW has some of the best PPV conversion rates in the history of PPV wrestling but somehow Tony Khan isnt bragging about it on twitter.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 19:52:02 No.19673200 Report

Quoted By: >>19673362

>>19672697

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 20:05:08 No.19673333 Report

Quoted By: >>19673724

>>19672314

The TV numbers are for the US, the PPV numbers are worldwide.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 20:07:42 No.19673355 Report

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>>19672565
>The PPVs have always been excellent
They used to be. They've fallen off so badly in the past year though starting around All In

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 20:08:58 No.19673362 Report

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>>19672697
Aw sweet another porkroll Family Guy meme post
>>19673200
Kek glad someone else has caught on

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 20:09:36 No.19673371 Report

Quoted By: >>19673491

Worlds End went magically up from 115k to over 140k buys in the span of a year. That's an almost 30% increase while every other AEW metric is down.

Totally legit, guys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 20:12:28 No.19673408 Report

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I can believe there's some who might be buying the PPVs but not bothering with the weekly show anymore in the same way some people watch Wrestle Kingdom but nothing else from NJPW but I doubt it's at the numbers Dave claims.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 20:19:11 No.19673491 Report

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>>19673371
They added Amazon and Max as carriers since then
all of tv is down, especially wrestling after the Nielson fix
Also, their PPV attendance has been pretty much steady for years
And for me personally, their PPVs are pretty much the only thing must see for me in wrestling right now along with WK, WM and RR.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 20:37:41 No.19673724 Report

Quoted By:

>>19673333
Checked

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 20:44:38 No.19673817 Report

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>>19672745
It's like AEW getting 500k on Max, but no drop in the TV ratings. 500k new AEW fans just appeared out of thin air. It's fucking retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 20:46:08 No.19673839 Report

Quoted By: >>19673885 >>19674142 >>19675968

PPV buys are worldwide

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 20:50:18 No.19673885 Report

Quoted By: >>19673917 >>19674142 >>19675968

>>19673839
This, OP's post is some amerimutt idiot who lives a in bubble and forget the rest of the world exists, you can buy PPVs worldwide

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 20:52:15 No.19673917 Report

Quoted By: >>19674142

>>19673885
they’re also much cheaper internationally

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 21:08:44 No.19674142 Report

Quoted By: >>19674191

>>19673839
>>19673885
>>19673917
These are numbers Dave makes up based on Google searches. They don't represent PPV buys international or otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jan 2026 21:12:54 No.19674191 Report

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>>19674142
Correct. All Meltzer math is based on crap. The supposed Max numbers are based on Dave polling his subscribers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2026 00:52:05 No.19675956 Report

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>>19672485
It’s like when China reported that their GDP grew by the same exact percentage every quarter

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2026 00:55:41 No.19675968 Report

Quoted By:

>>19673839
>>19673885
nobody worldwide watches this shit so thats horrible logic

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2026 00:56:26 No.19675974 Report

Quoted By: >>19676011

>>19672314
>TV to PPV
Include streaming, YouTube, etc, and it adds up to about the same probably.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2026 00:58:22 No.19675983 Report

Quoted By: >>19676011

>>19672314
What doesn't he get?
>Streaming didn't exist in 1998
>Either did social media or YouTube
>The TV numbers reported are USA only
>Even accounting for all that they're still nowhere near the PPV rates of the 90s
It's like he's refusing to acknowledge things have changed dramatically

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2026 01:00:39 No.19676001 Report

Quoted By: >>19676011

I don't see what's wrong with that given they're not counting coverage from other markers and streaming, YouTube, twitter, all that other shit. And 140k PPV buys isn't that insurmountable when you consider it's never been easier to order a PPV.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2026 01:00:54 No.19676003 Report

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>>19672686
thats like saying a working class obese person cant travel faster than 20mph because of historic precedent (before cars)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2026 01:01:56 No.19676011 Report

Quoted By: >>19676033

>>19675974
>>19675983
>>19676001
wtf? blatant coordinated bot raid

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2026 01:02:18 No.19676018 Report

Quoted By: >>19676898

>>19672314
I’ve bought AEW PPVs and I don’t even watch the weekly shows or follow AEW particularly

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2026 01:04:53 No.19676033 Report

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>>19676011
>No arguments detected
I accept your concession

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2026 03:52:58 No.19676898 Report

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>>19676018
You have bought a total of 0 AEW PPVS

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