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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 19:15:37 No.5254153 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>5254188 >>5254189 >>5254193 >>5254257 >>5255800 >>5255852 >>5256331 >>5257072 >>5257184 >>5257335 >>5258120

Quick experiment. Can you validate the wrestling careers of those in pic related WITHOUT mentioning Meltzer, WON, or star ratings? So far we have some things in Omega's corner regarding his NJPW runs. For the Bucks the last thread produced people basically saying the Bucks are good because they are good, which is basically what the Bucks claim themselves and lacks any support or proof beyond them saying it.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 19:20:34 No.5254188 Report

Quoted By: >>5254239

>>5254153
They practically started a proper wrestling boom based on their shirts and drawing power. They were instrumental in the creation pf AEW, the first proper competitor to WWE since WCW failed

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 19:20:43 No.5254189 Report

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>>5254153
Kenny's legacy is literally just Meltzer star ratings. He's never cut a memorable promo and is only worshipped by smarks because of his workrate. Bucks are worse in the fact that they can't wrestle for shit and just do flips. Their legacy is they leeched off Kenny so the smarks who worshipped Kenny went on the worship the Bucks aswell.
I guess you can say their legacy was amassing such a large cult fat smark following that they were able to work a billionaire into making a company that is only watched because that same billionaire managed to hire a bunch of WWE rejects and the smark cult made it the popular thing to watch if you want to rebel against Vince not pushing your favorite dimeless indie manlet.
Most of the love AEW gets is just because it isn't WWE. That's how you can explain it getting 900k viewers on average when ROH or NJPW couldn't get anything close to that.
It's seen as acceptable because of all the WWE rejects going there.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 19:20:56 No.5254193 Report

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>>5254153
>PRO-TIP YOU CAN"T
good morning sirs

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 19:23:26 No.5254215 Report

Quoted By: >>5254250

Kenny main event 3 straight tokyo domes and was the first gaijin to win the G1 and did it on first try. he will go down as the greatest wrestler to never step inside a WWE ring

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 19:26:18 No.5254239 Report

Quoted By: >>5254482 >>5254952

>>5254188
>They practically started a proper wrestling boom
What? You zoomers are so starved for an era as based and megawatt as the AE that you make up shit like this and simp for what would be comedy acts at best during that era. These faggots have never started a wrestling boom. Ever. They are literally indie level talent that used their wide spread use in that scene to big league people into putting them over or they wouldn't be able to work shows with the Bucks on them. In other words they politicked like anyone else but it only worked in the indies. They could never get over in a major fed and that is why they avoided them.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 19:27:19 No.5254250 Report

Quoted By: >>5254276

>>5254215
>to win the G1 and did it on first try.
You understand wrestling is fake right? They wanted Kenny to be someone to get the West into NJPW. Ironically it failed and it continues to fail as Kenny has never been as big a draw in the West as he was in Japan.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 19:28:18 No.5254257 Report

Quoted By: >>5254270

>>5254153
>This thread again

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 19:29:44 No.5254270 Report

Quoted By: >>5254320

>>5254257
Since you don't get how this place works how about you go back faggot?

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 19:30:32 No.5254276 Report

Quoted By: >>5254378

>>5254250
>Ironically it failed and it continues to fail as Kenny has never been as big a draw in the West as he was in Japan.
objectively wrong. Kenny as champ drew their highest ppv buys and ratings skyrocketed as champ

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 19:33:36 No.5254320 Report

Quoted By: >>5254398

>>5254270
You've had what, 3 or 4 threads on the same shit.
You've been given answers.
You will just undermine each one.

There is literally no point to discussion.
Just say you hate Kenny and the Bucks and be done.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 19:37:32 No.5254378 Report

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>>5254276
>Kenny as champ drew their highest ppv buys
Wrong. Revolution '22 which featured Page vs Cole has the highest buy rate of an AEW event all time at 150k. Reminder, to put that in perspective, Jake Paul vs Mayweather did 1 million. AEW event's are shit in terms of PPV but Omegetty can't even have the highest buy rate. You think he is a draw because Meltzer and only Meltzer says so

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 19:38:37 No.5254398 Report

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>>5254320
>reddit spacing
>not understanding how pw posting and threads work
>posting in a thread he says he doesnt care for and isnt needed
Go back.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 19:45:14 No.5254482 Report

Quoted By: >>5254555

>>5254239
Not an argument. They started the closest thing to a boom since 1996. Massive gates, TV deals, PPV bank being made. Cope.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 19:49:53 No.5254555 Report

Quoted By: >>5254698 >>5254727 >>5254817

>>5254482
>Not an argument.
>They started the closest thing to a boom since 1996.
You are absolutely delusional. Imagine suggesting anything the Bucks have done has approached the boom period of wrestling. Just an FYI the average attendance level in 1996 for any WWE show was 12,000. The Bucks needed every indie faggot, Omega, Cody, and more to reach 10k for a show they were only a part of. Drink more koolaid brainlet.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 20:00:56 No.5254698 Report

Quoted By: >>5254782

>>5254555
>Just an FYI the average attendance level in 1996 for any WWE show was 12,000

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 20:02:45 No.5254727 Report

Quoted By: >>5254803

>>5254555
More cope. Compare the wrestling landscape from 2006-2016 and you'll see things have boomed.
>But muh ratings!
Irrelevant. AEW is hitting 60-70% of WWEs ratings irregularly (source Dynamite v Raw Oct 2021 to January 2022). TNA, etc, couldn't hit 50%
>But muh record profits!
No other company secured a TV deal at the level of AEW between 2001 and 2019. The Elite were fundamental in this.
>But muh gates!
Average WWE attendance from 2016-2019 was 3-7k for regular shows (sometimes also for PPV), AEW averages higher or the same as WWE (big 4 PPVs seem to be the exception although they're getting closer)
>But muh PPV buys!
AEW (with the Elite front and centre) have shattered all non-WWE PPV buy records from 2005-current year. TNA never came close, WWE stopped competing in the market, it was that bad. AEW, with the Elite, caused a resurgence.
>But muh merch!
The Elite, particularly the Bucks, were the first wrestling merch to enter a mainstream clothing retailer (hot topic) since 1999 (The Rock shirts/hockey shirts).

You're delusional if you can't see the upturn happening, thanks to the Elite, AEW, and competition for WWE.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 20:07:00 No.5254782 Report

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>>5254698
https://sites.google.com/site/chrisharrington/wwe_1994_2012_attendance

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 20:08:52 No.5254803 Report

Quoted By: >>5254831

>>5254727
Anyone who tries to claim any act or fed is doing numbers remotely close or in any way reminiscent of the Attitude Era is either a shit tier troll, shoot retarded or just plain lying because they can't accept the fact that they are not in an era of any historical renown. Choose which you are and leave.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 20:09:49 No.5254817 Report

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>>5254555
>Just an FYI the average attendance level in 1996 for any WWE show was 12,000
Not even close

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 20:11:23 No.5254831 Report

Quoted By: >>5254864 >>5254957

>>5254803
Who claimed that? Are you dense? It's a boom period. Do you know what that is

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/boom.asp

Boom =/= peak of business. The current climate constitutes a boom.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 20:13:42 No.5254864 Report

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>>5254831
Oh no no no doomer bros we got cocky!

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 20:20:54 No.5254952 Report

Quoted By: >>5254971

>>5254239
Jesus christ dude, seek sunlight.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 20:21:05 No.5254957 Report

Quoted By: >>5254973 >>5254996

>>5254831
>Who claimed that?
>>They started the closest thing to a boom since 1996.
>Are you dense?
Now you can use the "not everyone is the same person" back pedal cope and instead of being that retard you are a 3rd party retard coping for that retard.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 20:22:06 No.5254971 Report

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>>5254952
Angry cultists same fagging in the same thread they're so mad. Guys its ok they have t-shirts TSHIRTS!

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 20:22:20 No.5254973 Report

Quoted By: >>5255069

>>5254957
That statement is correct. You don't know what a boom is. The current climate is the closest to a wrestling boom since 1996. Something TNA, RoH and NJPW couldn't pull off from 2002-2019. Continue coping, lad.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 20:23:54 No.5254996 Report

Quoted By: >>5255051 >>5255069

>>5254957
Point out where I said anything about the current numbers being close to the Attitude Era.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 20:25:34 No.5255020 Report

Quoted By: >>5255069

OP salty as fuck.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 20:27:09 No.5255051 Report

Quoted By: >>5255102

>>5254996
>Point out where I said anything about the current numbers being close to the Attitude Era.
Are you arguing that the Attitude Era didn't begin in 1996? That's going to be your argument? You're going to be that autistic right? And then claim anything you say is rational and sane. Just stop posting and learn to troll better or not say something so simpish.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 20:28:09 No.5255069 Report

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>>5255020
>>5254996
>>5254973
>same fagging this much
>OP salty as fuck.
Bucks broken again

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 20:28:15 No.5255070 Report

Quoted By: >>5255108

>posting the same thread again and again
>NOOOOOO WE ARE NOT BOTS

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 20:30:30 No.5255102 Report

Quoted By: >>5255129

>>5255051
That's the big "gotcha"? You're a retard. Yes, the Attitude Era started in 1996. I said that, you dense moron. I stated the current climate (2019-current year) is the biggest boom period since 1996, where the Attitude Era started. Are you refuting that? Point out the boom period from the end of the Attitude Era boom to current day.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 20:31:06 No.5255108 Report

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>>5255070
Tourists zooming so fast they think re-posting threads is something that never happened on asp or pw before.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 20:33:07 No.5255129 Report

Quoted By: >>5255171 >>5255180

>>5255102
>Point out where I said anything about the current numbers being close to the Attitude Era.
>>>They started the closest thing to a boom since 1996.
>Yes, the Attitude Era started in 1996
>That's the big "gotcha"?
Imagine being such a brainlet and cope artists you argue against yourself and then try to get mad at someone else.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 20:36:25 No.5255171 Report

Quoted By: >>5255185

>>5255129
You're a brainlet, bro.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 20:37:00 No.5255180 Report

Quoted By: >>5255196

>>5255129

Literally what is incorrect there?

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 20:37:15 No.5255185 Report

Quoted By: >>5256192

>>5255171
You seem unreasonably upset at your own words

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 20:38:24 No.5255196 Report

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>>5255180
>I don't know how to follow a thread....th-that's m..my excuse...

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 21:33:59 No.5255800 Report

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>>5254153
Cultists legit melting down trying to not mention Meltzer in any way

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 21:37:27 No.5255852 Report

Quoted By: >>5255918

>>5254153
They draw. In kayfabe, their careers are validated by the titles they've won. Omega has held no less than 4 different world level titles and Young Bucks 4 as tag champs in two different weight classes. In reality, the money they've generated from fans who want to see them and get their autographs and wear their merch and play with their toys etc. Money and miles, mark.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 21:42:46 No.5255918 Report

Quoted By: >>5256232

>>5255852
>In reality, the money they've generated from fans who want to see them and get their autographs and wear their merch and play with their toys etc. Money and miles, mark.
If you really want to use money and miles than New Day, out strips the Young Bucks by any stretch of the imagination. The amount of merch that tag team has sold, along with their contracts, and outside projects goes beyond anything the Bucks have ever done. In terms of miles the Bucks only international experience is Japan, whereas New Day has been to numerous countries. Omega also fails in this regard. Omega's networth? $1 million. Big E's? $2 million. Cope.
>https://www.sportskeeda.com/wwe/big-e-net-worth
>https://www.sportskeeda.com/aew/kenny-omega-net-worth

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 22:03:08 No.5256192 Report

Quoted By: >>5256277

>>5255185
Stay salty, stay wrong, champ :)

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 22:05:55 No.5256232 Report

Quoted By: >>5256295 >>5256381

>>5255918
It's cute that I was right and you seethed into comparisons no one asked for. Nowhere did I say they were the biggest in pro wrestling, just that they're successful.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 22:09:45 No.5256277 Report

Quoted By: >>5256810

>>5256192
>salty
>still posting long after he was proven wrong

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 22:10:49 No.5256295 Report

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>>5256232
>It's cute that I was right
Um.
>Point out where I said anything about the current numbers being close to the Attitude Era.
>>>They started the closest thing to a boom since 1996.
>Yes, the Attitude Era started in 1996
>That's the big "gotcha"?

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 22:15:42 No.5256331 Report

Quoted By: >>5256392

>>5254153
Three wrestler but not enough to be Superstars. I can't see this people in the big leagues

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 22:19:42 No.5256381 Report

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>>5256232
>It's cute that I was right
> Money and miles, mark.
>A kwab'ed niglet in a wheelchair makes more than Kenneth
>hurr durr i was right

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 22:20:43 No.5256392 Report

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>>5256331
Can someone translate this please?

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 22:59:40 No.5256810 Report

Quoted By: >>5257755

>>5256277
You haven't proven shit wrong, you've misconstrued an argument because you're a salty bitch. Name a boom period after the Attitude Era boom that's even a fraction of what we've been in since 2019. You can't, because you're wrong :)

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 23:22:58 No.5257072 Report

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>>5254153

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 23:33:07 No.5257184 Report

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>>5254153
>lacks any support or proof beyond them saying it.
But anon, in wrestling, there aren't good facts to prove if someone is good or not.
>Titles
Not like titles are worth something because they don't actually have to compete
>Profits
Only a retard would talk about profits when talking about how good or bad is something
>Main events
There is too much politics in wrestling to take this as an actual proof.
>Awards
Awards are always a meme and in wrestling is even worse.

The rest are just opinions on how good they are. This isn't actual sports in which you can say "but they didn't score as many points as this other guy" or something like that.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Apr 2022 23:46:16 No.5257335 Report

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>>5254153
Two dimeless shitters and Kenny Omega

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 00:17:39 No.5257755 Report

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>>5256810
>You haven't proven shit wrong,
I proved you wrong. So by your own logic you are shit.
>>Point out where I said anything about the current numbers being close to the Attitude Era.
>>>They started the closest thing to a boom since 1996.
>Yes, the Attitude Era started in 1996
>That's the big "gotcha"?

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 00:49:38 No.5258120 Report

Quoted By: >>5258542

>>5254153
I think they're fun to watch.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 01:29:02 No.5258542 Report

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>>5258120
No one gives a shit faggot

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