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>>5384452
>Hardcore fans
This is why AEW won't last. Pandering to the hardcore fans never worked, you need to appeal to the casuals who massively outnumber the fat Meltzer worshipping smarks

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Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:04:34 No.5384466 Report

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>>5384452
>the hardcore cultists will like what the cult tells them to like
so it's shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:04:39 No.5384468 Report

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>>5384452
>hardcore fans
So it’s just some NJPW shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:04:50 No.5384470 Report

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>>5384452
Why, are they finally gonna do over a million viewers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:05:25 No.5384476 Report

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>>5384463
>to the casuals
there's no such thing in wrestling faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:06:06 No.5384483 Report

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>>5384463
>This is why AEW won't last. Pandering to the hardcore fans never worked, you need to appeal to the casuals who massively outnumber the fat Meltzer worshipping smarks
There is no such thing as the casual fan, stop pretending like there are any left. This isn't the fucking 90's anymore, retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:06:49 No.5384488 Report

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>>5384452
Either AEW x NJPW supershow, or ROH getting a new TV deal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:07:14 No.5384492 Report

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>>5384483
>There is no such thing as the casual fan
there is. my cousins only watch the big wwe ppvs

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:07:16 No.5384495 Report

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>>5384470
When the big bang theory does a big enough number to carry them

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:07:19 No.5384496 Report

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>>5384476
>>5384483
>t-there are no such thing as casual fans
Yes because years of pandering to smarks ran them off. The smell was too bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:07:20 No.5384497 Report

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>>5384452
oooohhhhhh im gonna uuuohhhhhhh hugeeee announcementsisters ooohhhhhhhhhhh

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:07:24 No.5384498 Report

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>>5384452
Not really a good sign tbqhwyf

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:07:42 No.5384501 Report

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Hardcore fans aren't AEW fans, AEW fans are PG Era smarks brainwashed by the net to turn on what they liked and looking for somewhere to belong.

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Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:07:44 No.5384502 Report

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>>5384463
>Pandering to the hardcore fans never worked

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:07:58 No.5384507 Report

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>>5384496
glad we agree now fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:08:19 No.5384511 Report

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>>5384492
So those are casual fans from 15-20 years ago. AEW already did all they could to try and get those by having JR and Jericho.

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Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:08:20 No.5384512 Report

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>>5384502
Dark Souls is a franchise for normalfags

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Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:10:02 No.5384524 Report

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>>5384502
>Elden Kino
Great great game. One of the best ever made for sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:10:09 No.5384526 Report

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>>5384502
Souls games have become legacy games, the only non F2P games that still draw nowadays

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:10:18 No.5384527 Report

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>>5384452
Lmao they now need to add "hardcore" fans because all the announcements that has been said would be huge were only huge to the hardcores

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Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:10:22 No.5384528 Report

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Ecw is all elite. Ecw invasions bros, we eating tonight

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:10:31 No.5384532 Report

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>>5384463
Why do WWE fans want their content dumbed down to appeal to people who don’t care about wrestling

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:11:19 No.5384541 Report

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>>5384524
You barely play

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:11:29 No.5384542 Report

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>>5384524
You can't be that retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:13:03 No.5384556 Report

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>>5384541
>>5384542
>Elden Ring bad because... it just is!
It's not perfect and some UI adjustments can certainly be made to be more noobie-friendly but it's pretty damn close.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:13:21 No.5384562 Report

Quoted By: >>5384577 >>5384645

>>5384452
What kind of hardcore? Like hardcore deathmatch shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:15:09 No.5384577 Report

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>>5384562
Actually sweaty the correct term is "extreme" or "ultra violent", the hardcore part in ECW was referring to the fanbase but both WWE and WCW mistook that

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:15:20 No.5384579 Report

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>>5384452
>It's more ring of honor bull shit
:rolls eyes:

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:19:41 No.5384621 Report

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>>5384556
if fromsoft cucked on difficulty the games wouldnt be nearly as popular
the point is that they made a hardcore game and it grew by making more hardcore fans
thats what happens when you pander to hardcore fans and nail it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:20:29 No.5384627 Report

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he's finna finding us all girlfriends

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:21:00 No.5384629 Report

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>>5384502
ER is literally the most casual-friendly entry because of pleb-helper mechanics like spirit ashes, the fuck are you talking about

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:22:11 No.5384636 Report

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>>5384452
thats all their fans though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:22:14 No.5384637 Report

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>>5384621
Soulshit will never be hardcore, you fell for bamco marketing and journalist reviews kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:22:31 No.5384640 Report

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>>5384452
WWE news: they leak it.
AEW news: they tease it and remind you to DVR it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:22:40 No.5384642 Report

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>>5384621
The key here is "nail it". From are vastly better at what they do than AEW is at what it does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:22:45 No.5384643 Report

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>>5384463
Go worship your egg somewhere else edrone

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G8rH8r Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:22:47 No.5384645 Report

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>>5384562
>hardcor
that’s what I was wondering, do the mean fans that are hardcore or fans OF hardcore wrestling

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:23:13 No.5384651 Report

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>>5384556
They don't need to adjust shit, that's the appeal, they dictate the experience whereas every other company lets the consumer dictate things and the consumer doesn't know shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:23:41 No.5384656 Report

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>>5384556
>nd some UI adjustments can certainly be made to be more noobie-friendly
The UI is the most perfect thing about it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:26:02 No.5384674 Report

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>>5384463
lotta cultist seethe in response to this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:27:25 No.5384686 Report

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ROH tape library on a streaming service

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:28:18 No.5384694 Report

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>>5384674
sep

all they can do now they everyone realized they are full of shit, their only defense tactic is claim anyone is uglier than them

>protip no one is

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:28:22 No.5384695 Report

Quoted By: >>5384720 >>5384724 >>5384761

So it's a NJPW/AEW supershow which couldn't be less interesting. TNA did Tokyo Dome shows with NJPW. Nobody gave a shit about them either. And at least they were fresh matches. Nobody needs to see Hangman, Kenny, Mox etc. against any top NJPW guys again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:29:14 No.5384705 Report

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>>5384452
So no one will care.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:30:14 No.5384713 Report

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>>5384496
>pandering to smarks ran them off
30 years of Vince putting food fights on TV and burying WCW did that retard

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Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:30:37 No.5384720 Report

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>>5384695
>>5384705
>So no one will care.
>So it's a NJPW/AEW supershow which couldn't be less interesting. TNA did Tokyo Dome shows with NJPW. Nobody gave a shit about them either. And at least they were fresh matches. Nobody needs to see Hangman, Kenny, Mox etc. against any top NJPW guys again.

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Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:31:13 No.5384724 Report

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>>5384695
>So it's a NJPW/AEW supershow which couldn't be less interesting. TNA did Tokyo Dome shows with NJPW. Nobody gave a shit about them either. And at least they were fresh matches. Nobody needs to see Hangman, Kenny, Mox etc. against any top NJPW guys again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:31:45 No.5384734 Report

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>>5384462
Kek this. They are every week. he has become a parody of himself

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:32:11 No.5384737 Report

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>>5384720
They're right though. WWExNJPW would be cool. As a NJPW viewer I'm way more interested in seeing those match-ups than AEW ones.
It won't ever happen, granted, but it's at least fun to fantasize about. I've already seen the AEW guys work with NJPW, so I just don't care about that anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:32:20 No.5384738 Report

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>>5384720
Sorry. 20 people, at most, will care.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:33:04 No.5384742 Report

Quoted By: >>5384754 >>5384762 >>5384848

>>5384738
>>5384737
We'll see how fast the tickets sell out. :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:33:11 No.5384746 Report

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>>5384720
do aew fans even like aew? they seem to care more about njpw guys having multiman tags. why not just watch njpw?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:34:08 No.5384754 Report

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>>5384742
Oh it will sell, obviously, AEW fans eat any old shit up. Just speaking as a non-cultist, I don't really care. The valuable AEW guys have already had their matches with the valuable NJPW guys, nobody else on their roster is worth much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:34:39 No.5384761 Report

Quoted By: >>5384793

>>5384695
Yet Mox/Ospray last weekend was fantastic and people are excited for Mox/Tanahashi in DC

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:34:48 No.5384762 Report

Quoted By: >>5384773

>>5384742
How many more tickets than a regular AEW show?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:35:37 No.5384773 Report

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>>5384762
It depends on whatever arena/stadium they run. Whatever they run is selling out in the first few hours, guaranteed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:37:10 No.5384793 Report

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>>5384761
>Mox/Ospray
Eh, it was good, but that's Billy. Mox is garbage, that's just a case of Ospreay being able to carry anyone to a great match, he's just on that level. Mox didn't contribute.
>Mox/Tana
Same here. Kind of just proving the point, NJPW guys are so vastly ahead, why should I care about them having to pull carry jobs, just because it's with AEW "talent"? It could be any old indie shitter they pulled off the street.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:38:13 No.5384809 Report

Quoted By: >>5384848

>>5384463
The casuals checked out decades ago when wrestling was no longer mainstream

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:39:38 No.5384827 Report

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>>5384452
Tony sure likes to give us a feast every Wednesday night. Will we ever get tired of eatin' good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:41:26 No.5384848 Report

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>>5384457
>>5384476
>>5384483
>>5384502
>>5384507
>>5384511
>>5384532
>>5384621
>>5384643
>>5384651
>>5384713
>>5384720
>>5384724
>>5384742
>>5384773
>>5384809
All ojama having a samefag meltdown spergeout and trying to find ways to cope over the fact that smarks killed wrestling and he doesn't want to admit it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:42:31 No.5384857 Report

Quoted By: >>5384890

>>5384827
lose weight and stop shoving wrestling figures up your asshole ojama

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:42:35 No.5384858 Report

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>>5384463
roman killed whatever casuals remained, the audience is only smarks now and boomers

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:42:52 No.5384861 Report

Quoted By: >>5384907

>>5384737
NJPW vs WWE would be much better because it has fresher matchups and better dream match potential because they have the two biggest stars in wrestling, Cena and Orton.
With aew, most of the matches have already happened since their biggest stars have already been in njpw. Only notable one who hasn't is Punk, but his aura was damaged after his ufc run and it wouldn't feel believable to have him beat Okada/Tanahashi

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:43:48 No.5384871 Report

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>>5384858
nice headcanon ojama what drove away casuals was the ROH indie midget invasion of WWE

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:46:12 No.5384890 Report

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>>5384857
Stop projecting your faggot sex fantasies

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:47:02 No.5384899 Report

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>>5384463
hardcore fans are the only ones that spend money, dimwit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:47:12 No.5384900 Report

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>>5384848
>wrestling on almost every night of the week
>wrestling is dead
What did the retard mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:48:02 No.5384907 Report

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>>5384861
>With aew, most of the matches have already happened since their biggest stars have already been in njpw. Only notable one who hasn't is Punk
There's also the fact that punk's shit at wrestling. He was a clumsy fuck back in 2015, I can't even imagine him now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:49:29 No.5384925 Report

Quoted By: >>5384994

im a huge aew fan but seriously tony needs to cool it with the "HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT!!!!" shit already.

aew needs a breathing period. its alright for things to cool off for a bit. going full gas all the time often means expectations wont be met. if this is some stupid announcement like "yea we have a couple nu-japan guys comin over" then i will never trust a "huge announcement" again.

most people already dont, hence why its an enormous meme on /pw/ to spam the announcement image and why jerk laughs at us all the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 19:56:01 No.5384994 Report

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>>5384925
Nice falseflag

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 20:13:35 No.5385179 Report

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>>5384463
When it comes to wrestling you don't have to cater exclusively to the hardcore fans because they will always ALWAYS watch regardless, just cater a tad to them so they don't go back to WWE (smark favorites in the main event, regulars in the mid and lower card)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 20:15:09 No.5385191 Report

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>>5384463
Why do obese smarks who never go outside think casual fans dont exist? Because they cant even go to the grocery store let alone interact with normal people?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 20:15:32 No.5385200 Report

Quoted By: >>5385288

>>5384463
>muh casuals
What retard pushed this meme you faggots regurgitate ad nauseam? Meltzer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 20:15:39 No.5385202 Report

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>>5384463
Ya seethe bitch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 20:15:44 No.5385203 Report

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>>5384463
Good lord look at the seethe to this post kek, must be wednesday

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 20:24:12 No.5385288 Report

Quoted By: >>5385330 >>5385417

>>5385200
Meltzer is one of the reasons wrestling has lost casual fans

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 20:28:01 No.5385330 Report

Quoted By: >>5385350

>>5385288
the saddest cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 20:29:29 No.5385350 Report

Quoted By: >>5385374

>>5385330
What fucking cope? There could have been some legitimate competition going on if AEW owner Tony Khan was not a Meltzer mark and his goal wasnt to pander to that audience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 20:31:29 No.5385374 Report

Quoted By: >>5385453

>>5385350
Casuals ceased to exist long before AEW you braindead fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 20:35:07 No.5385412 Report

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Hardcore fans as in wrestling nerds or as in fans of hardcore wrestling?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 20:35:48 No.5385417 Report

Quoted By: >>5385453

>>5385288
>cater your business to people who will only watch 3 months out the year
Seriously which one of the retards you fags worship here pushed that? Meltzer or Cornette?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 20:36:53 No.5385427 Report

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>People dropkicking each other's feet for 3 hours
THIS IS AWESOME
THIS IS AWESOME

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 20:39:09 No.5385453 Report

Quoted By: >>5385486 >>5385702

>>5385374
Tony Khan believed in his delusions that AEW style show would bring lapsed fans back. Numbers are going down every year so yes, soon there will be no casuals at all.

>>5385417
How about cater your business to any potential tv viewer in a way that you make compelling episodic television that leaves you wanting to tune in next week?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 20:41:59 No.5385486 Report

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>>5385453
>compelling episodic television
You're trolling right? That's the exact shill line that Michael Cole used to spout out 10 years ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 20:50:51 No.5385559 Report

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>>5384463
jesus christ all the marks in the replies outting themselves like that

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 20:52:35 No.5385578 Report

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>>5384502
Elden Ring is for normies, for most of them is "the game from the guy who wrote Game of Thrones"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 21:05:29 No.5385702 Report

Quoted By: >>5385890

>>5385453
Lapsed fans are not the same as casual fans, Subhojeet

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 21:25:21 No.5385890 Report

Quoted By: >>5386183

>>5385702
Whatever makes you feel better. He didn't bring either one of those back

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 21:56:23 No.5386183 Report

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>>5385890
So how do you bring someone back who stopped watching 20 years ago?

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