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Nominative determinism in Pro Wrestling

Anonymous Mon 16 May 2022 23:03:04 No.5683349 View View Reply Original Report

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"Kevin" being a name that means "handsome" and "Nash" being a name that means "by the Ash Tree" he was always bound to be Big Sexy

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Anonymous Mon 16 May 2022 23:07:49 No.5683392 Report

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>>5683349
Kevin Was Always Based

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Anonymous Mon 16 May 2022 23:09:15 No.5683402 Report

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>>5683349
>Fraxinus nigra, the black ash, is a species of ash native to much of eastern Canada and the northeastern United States,

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Anonymous Mon 16 May 2022 23:10:13 No.5683406 Report

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This thread needs to be murked.

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Anonymous Mon 16 May 2022 23:12:49 No.5683441 Report

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>>5683349
I know Punk has gotten some flak for the lack of impact he's had on ratings aside from his first few weeks, but I think Bryan has been even more disappointing. I've gone through his quarter hours since he's debuted and here's what I found:

Dec 8: Bryan vs John Silver. Quarter 8. 814k viewers (2nd lowest of night - high of night was 980k).
Dec 1: Bryan vs Alan Angels. Quarter 1. 812K viewers (lowest of night - high of night was 896k).
Nov 24: Bryan vs Colt Cabana. Quarter 6. 881k viewers (3rd lowest of night - high of night was 968k).
Nov 17: Bryan vs Evil Uno. Quarter 2. 960k viewers (2nd lowest of the night - high of night was 1.049M)
Nov 10: Bryan vs Rocky Romero. Quarter 1. 906k viewers (3rd lowest of night - high of night was 974k).
Nov 3: Was on commentary for main event of Orange Cassidy vs Miro Q8. 828k viewers (lowest of night - high of night was 915k).
Oct 27: N/A (30 second promo with Eddie)
Oct 23: Bryan vs Dustin Rhodes. Quarter 1. 635k viewers (highest of night).
Oct 16: Bryan vs Bobby Fish. Quarter 8. 714k viewers (3rd lowest of night - highest of night was 798k).
Oct 6: The Elite vs Bryan/Christian/JE. Q1. 1.077M viewers (3rd highest viewership of night - high of night 1.118M).
Sep 29: Interrupted Elite promo. Q2. 1.223M viewers (high of night).
Sep 22: AEW GrandSlam match against Omega. Q1-3 (average of 1.3M viewers so high of night)
Sep 15: N/A (Couldn't find quarter hours)
Sep 8: Debut promo segment against Omega. Q7. 1.453M viewers (highest of night).

He had a nice impact at the start of his run with the Elite, but since then his quarters have embarrassing relative to his supposed star power. The main problem I see is that he's wrestling people beneath him, but even if Bryan was wrestling jobbers shouldn't we expect his supposed star power to rub off more than it currently is? I didn't include his Rampage quarter ratings, but I'm taking a look at them right now and they've been quite disappointing too.

It's time to start a dialogue.

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Anonymous Mon 16 May 2022 23:14:02 No.5683453 Report

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Why does Honky Tonk Man tell such easily disprovable lies?

If you're being especially generous (including events where the world title went on before the interval, and Honky wrestled in the final match), he main evented MSG 6 times. One of those was a sell-out.

HTM "main-evented" during the peak of the wrestling boom, and sold out once. Nash main-evented during the nadir, and sold out twice. Nash wins again.

March 1996. WWF house show in New York, NY at Madison Square Garden headlined by Diesel/Michaels vs. Bret/Undertaker, drew 17,000 (14,824 paid) paying $299,596, which was the first sellout at MSG for a non-PPV since 1989, & also set an all-time record domestic house show gate.

May 1996. WWF house show in New York, NY at Madison Square Garden headlined by Diesel vs. Shawn Michaels, drew 18,800 (16,564 paid) paying $319,411, which was the first time in 11 years that WWF had two straight MSG sellouts, & the first indoor non-PPV house in WWF history to top $300,000.

Here's what Meltzer wrote.

"9/29 MSG show, 3,917 fans paid $146,437. The strange part is it comes just a few months after the WWF set consecutive gate records for non-PPV shows at MSG with legitimate overflow sellouts of the building scaled for 16,227 for pro wrestling on 3/17 (17,000 fans; 14,824 paid; $299,596; Diesel & Michaels vs. Bret Hart & Undertaker main event) and 5/19 (18,800 fans; 16,564 paid; $319,411; Diesel vs. Michaels cage match main event). The two shows were the first non-PPV events to legitimately sellout MSG since 1989."

The best Bryan Danielson could do was 12,000 fans in 2015 in tag team with Reigns against Rollins/Kane. And even then Hogan was main draw as it was Hogan appreciation night.

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Anonymous Mon 16 May 2022 23:15:11 No.5683473 Report

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>>5683349
>Bryan FAILED to draw a $1 million gate.
"AEW Grandslam show drew 20,177 fans with 18,300 paying just over $960,000." - Dave Meltzer

>Bryan FAILED to boost tickets sales
"If there were surprises, it was that the Omega vs. Danielson announcement didn’t lead to a surge of late ticket sales, and didn’t lead to a significant increase in the secondary market." - Dave Meltzer

>Bryan FAILED to outdraw ROH
"While WWE has beaten those numbers countless times, the largest gate for a non-WWE show ever in the U.S. was $1.1 million for the April 6, 2019, New Japan and ROH combined show in Madison Square Garden." - Dave Meltzer

>Bryan FAILED to outdraw WWE at MSG
"The gate was less than WWE drew on 9/10 for Smackdown at Madison Square Garden, which the company did not release but it was said to be in excess of $1.18 million." - Dave Meltzer

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Anonymous Mon 16 May 2022 23:17:25 No.5683499 Report

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>>5683349
>nWo enough said
>Ended Goldberg's streak
>Inseminated millions of girls while on the road
>Worked Ted Turner, Hogan and Vince at the same time
>Buried Phil so hard that haitch couldn't resist and wanted to bury Phil too
>Made fat joe cry
>Longest reigning WWF Champion of the 1990's
>PWI wrestler of the year in 1995
>PWI match of the year in 1995
>Fucked prime Pamela Anderson
>Only wrestler to have the best match at WrestleMania two years in a row
>created the Stone Cold gimmick and gave it to his friend Steve
>by far the biggest draw of the New Generation era. WWE went into a dark age after he left for WCW
>mastermind behind the nWo and nWo Wolfpac; the most influential and popular wrestling stables in history.
>5x WCW Champion
>Fucked prime Torrie Wilson & Stacey Keibler
>got every pussy in the arena wet every time he came to the ring
>got himself over by being a badass, not by killing his body doing flippy bullshit
>Works (you) into making threads about him daily including this falseflag thread so you and other incels can post your failed gay fag fiction you wasted years of your life on for free

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Anonymous Mon 16 May 2022 23:19:01 No.5683516 Report

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>>5683473
>as champion drew lowest rated main event of Raw in 2012 and maybe since 1997 for non-holiday
after WM when part timers leave, WWE goes back to Bryan on top against Punk
>5/7 overrun loses 105k viewers (virtually impossible to lose viewers in overrun)
>5/14 loses 601k viewers
>5/28 loses 30k viewers in 10pm spot which is terrible
>6/11 loses 19k viewers
>6/18 loses 241k viewers
>6/25 loses 30k viewers
Punk and Bryan's turn off factor was unprecedented for promoted performers
fast forward to June 2013, Bryan on top in singles position. He was getting big reactions but that's different from getting people to spend money.
>draws one of lowest main event gains of year
>drew 60k in 10pm spot - terrible
>SummerSlam has massive PPV drop
>NOC draws lowest PPV buys of year
>Battleground draws one of lowest buys in company history
Batista draw 6 million viewers. The conflict of going with a live crowd over business metrics begins.
>WrestleMania 30 draws lowest domestic buys in 17 years
>Nobody cared about Bryan, only Undertaker streak and Warrior death. Highest ratings were Evolution vs. Shield

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZ_DhCGfkk

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Anonymous Mon 16 May 2022 23:48:07 No.5683741 Report

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Wolfcuck really needs a doctor at this point

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Anonymous Mon 16 May 2022 23:50:16 No.5683760 Report

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>>5683741
I'm legitimately starting to worry about him. He's going to snap one day and shoot up a wrestling show at the rate he's going

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Anonymous Mon 16 May 2022 23:52:31 No.5683779 Report

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>GoldDUST
>StarDUST
>DUSTy Rhodes

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Anonymous Mon 16 May 2022 23:54:11 No.5683786 Report

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>>5683741
Wolfingtons gimmick is going past 92 replies and has reached actual schizoid behavior. Very sad

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Anonymous Mon 16 May 2022 23:54:45 No.5683790 Report

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>>5683786
schizoid =/= schizophrenic

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Anonymous Tue 17 May 2022 00:03:00 No.5683857 Report

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>>5683790
Don’t care it sounds cooler dork

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