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Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 17:26:10 No.5860200 View View Reply Original Report

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He's not wrong

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Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 17:28:00 No.5860221 Report

Quoted By: >>5860233 >>5861475 >>5861498 >>5861975 >>5863415

>>5860200
nah the biggest financial flop was wcw

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Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 17:29:21 No.5860233 Report

Quoted By: >>5861975

>>5860221
fpbp /thread

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Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 17:29:27 No.5860236 Report

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>>5860200
I’d say it was Paul White or Christian but Punk is up there.

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Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 17:42:37 No.5860386 Report

Quoted By: >>5860419 >>5869363 >>5869428

>>5860200
Their merch, main show tickets and PPV buys have been consistently higher since he turned up. It's also likely they'll survive the Discovery merger on the back of him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 17:42:50 No.5860390 Report

Quoted By: >>5861470 >>5862131

The problem with the Punk return is that Dynamite overall is a bad show. Anyone who tuned in to see him, would have seen five or six things that made sure they weren't going to watch the next episode.

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Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 17:45:48 No.5860419 Report

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>>5860386
PPVs yes. Main shows no.

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Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 17:48:05 No.5860441 Report

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>>5860200
goes out of business in your path

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Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 17:51:40 No.5860468 Report

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Punk made so much for AEW in one night, and never hurt them since

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Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 18:02:19 No.5860562 Report

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>>5860200
Remember when WWF was hyping the return of Razor Ramon and Diesel, and it turned out to be these two knock offs? But Bischoff didn't know that and was petrified that Hall and Nash were going to jump ship? So he added several million more dollars to their contracts for what turned out to be no reason at all? Yeah, who the fuck is this retard to talk to anybody about finances? His entire career is a financial flop.

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Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 18:05:28 No.5860595 Report

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>>5860200

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Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:09:14 No.5861341 Report

Quoted By: >>5861570 >>5861587 >>5861743 >>5868113

Bischof had the NWO, Randy Savage, Major Gunns, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Oklahoma, Jericho, malenko, Lex, Glacier, Regal, AJ, & Juventud and still lost around $100m a year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:20:31 No.5861470 Report

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>>5860390
Headcanon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:21:05 No.5861475 Report

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>>5860221
AEW hasn't even got close to TNA's success, let alone WCW's. Spastic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:22:07 No.5861484 Report

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>>5860200
>ratings down across AEW's shows since debut
How is Eric wrong here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:22:53 No.5861495 Report

Quoted By: >>5861515

>>5861475
at least aew still exists kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:22:56 No.5861497 Report

Quoted By: >>5861562 >>5868098

>>5861475
>WCW
>Success
I'm pretty sure they lost $60 million in a year and went bankrupt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:22:59 No.5861498 Report

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>>5860221
FPBP. OPetty ethered

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:23:03 No.5861499 Report

Quoted By: >>5861527

>>5860200
if anybody knows about failures it's eric bitchoff

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Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:24:31 No.5861515 Report

Quoted By: >>5861653 >>5862792

>>5861495
For now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:25:34 No.5861527 Report

Quoted By: >>5861542 >>5861674

>>5861499
Yeah the guy who invented NWO would know what a failure is. The opposite of NWO

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:27:04 No.5861542 Report

Quoted By: >>5861574

>>5861527
The NWO failed though

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:29:11 No.5861562 Report

Quoted By: >>5862853 >>5869564

>>5861497
>bankrupt
Er, no? They were cancelled due to AOL/Time Warner execs not liking wrestling. Which most of the TV industry doesn't - it's viewed as joke and rightly so.
AEW's lost more money than WCW has it's entire run and has shown ZERO growth, not once have they popped a higher rating than their debut show. Embarrassing.
PS. no million?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:29:28 No.5861566 Report

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>>5860200
Eric gave me Kiss half a million to play one song.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:29:44 No.5861570 Report

Quoted By: >>5862154

>>5861341
He also put on a show that was exponentially more entertaining than anything AEW has ever done, and actually beat head to head, their A show, not their C or D, for almost 2 years. Cope zoomer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:30:11 No.5861574 Report

Quoted By: >>5861594

>>5861542
>the storyline that put WCW above WWF in the ratings
Were you even born? Retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:31:12 No.5861587 Report

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>>5861341
>around $100m a year.
Show me these financials or is this dirtsheet shite like I imagine it is?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:31:48 No.5861594 Report

Quoted By: >>5861608

>>5861574
it’s also the storyline that lead people to watching Foley and Rock over Nash and Hogan so yes it did fail in the end

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:32:16 No.5861595 Report

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WCW: a show for the masses
AEW: a show mentally ill marks and can't even draw a million viewers
Watching wrestling in the current year should be a death sentence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:32:20 No.5861597 Report

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He's extremely wrong. The 4 PPVs he has been on are the 4 biggest PPVs in AEW history.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:33:17 No.5861608 Report

Quoted By:

>>5861594
>le wwe dvd narrative

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:34:24 No.5861621 Report

Quoted By:

>>5860200
>Naaaa-noooooooo! Tony said Punk is the beat!!!!!

I hate AEWTITST so much

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:36:51 No.5861650 Report

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Eric would know about shitty investments. https://www.thesportster.com/wcw-huge-contracts-eric-bischoff-wasted-money-on/

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:37:27 No.5861653 Report

Quoted By: >>5868016

>>5861515
Swerve is in that picture

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:39:07 No.5861674 Report

Quoted By: >>5861683 >>5861738

>>5861527
He didn't even know what the NWO was, Conrad had to explain the subtext of his own creation to him

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:39:12 No.5861675 Report

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>>5860200
still seething dronie?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:40:02 No.5861683 Report

Quoted By: >>5861703

>>5861674
Subtext doesn't pay the bills phil

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:41:40 No.5861703 Report

Quoted By: >>5861750

>>5861683
neither do you, ya basement-dwelling virgin

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:44:45 No.5861738 Report

Quoted By: >>5868059

>>5861674
What?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:45:11 No.5861743 Report

Quoted By: >>5862776

>>5861341
how much is Tony losing a year? AEW has no timetable on being profitable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:45:50 No.5861750 Report

Quoted By: >>5861961

>>5861703
Paid for my nwo shirt. That faggot phil ain't sell shit lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 20:04:38 No.5861961 Report

Quoted By: >>5869396

>>5861750
>Paid for my nwo shirt
Unless you bought it 25 years ago that money went to Vince not eric

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Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 20:05:41 No.5861975 Report

Quoted By: >>5862790

>>5860221
>>5860233
YNBAW

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 20:17:45 No.5862131 Report

Quoted By:

>>5860390
What turns me off AEW is Phil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 20:20:01 No.5862154 Report

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>>5861570
The show was "find out next week" for over a million years and then they dropped the ball. As an wrestling show it was a fucking mess and was carried by the wrong people

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 21:20:35 No.5862776 Report

Quoted By:

>>5861743
>AEWs not making money because... i-it just isn't ok!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 21:22:14 No.5862790 Report

Quoted By:

>>5861975
Stop posting selfies e-tranny

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 21:22:21 No.5862792 Report

Quoted By:

>>5861515
nice self ether

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 21:27:49 No.5862853 Report

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>>5861562
Okay, look. Imagine, if you will, that WCW was making 60 to 250million dollars in profits, do you seriously think they would have scraped it then? No. Even if they hated wrestling, they would have seen that aspect of the business as profitable and kept it going. But it wasn't. This whole Time Warner merger narrative needs to stop. If WCW was profitable, it would still be around. But it wasn't, so they cut it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 21:42:41 No.5863022 Report

Quoted By: >>5863056 >>5863100 >>5863216

Eric Bischoff thought Vince Russo was good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 21:45:27 No.5863056 Report

Quoted By: >>5863196

>>5863022
he was bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 21:48:26 No.5863100 Report

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>>5863022
so he is right again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 21:58:32 No.5863196 Report

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>>5863056
Hi Vince! How's your moms basement?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 21:59:45 No.5863216 Report

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>>5863022
so did the 8 million viewers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 22:21:41 No.5863415 Report

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>>5860221
Literally. No wrestling company has ever lost as much money in a single year as WCW did in 2000 ($62 million)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 22:38:27 No.5863592 Report

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THATS..FLOCKING BULLSHIT

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 22:42:33 No.5863625 Report

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>>5861475
Please, do tell me how much money WCW lost in between 1999 and 2001. Be honest. I'll wait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 22:44:36 No.5863653 Report

Quoted By: >>5863934

AEW hasn't even made any money in the first place lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 23:08:23 No.5863934 Report

Quoted By: >>5868085

>>5863653
>headcanon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 23:27:25 No.5864172 Report

Quoted By: >>5869369

>>5861475
Show me any TNA crowd that comes close to AEW crowds, or ppv buys for that matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 01:42:55 No.5865823 Report

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>>5860200
Bryan also

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 02:17:47 No.5866202 Report

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 02:27:38 No.5866267 Report

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>>5866202
>yfw you realize you are the champion of a company run by a cokehead mark who still has the same mentality as he did when he was 16 years old and daddy would tell him to put his action figures away and go to bed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 02:56:12 No.5866524 Report

Quoted By: >>5866544 >>5867999 >>5868094 >>5869553

>>5861475
Jesus you are fucking retarded. TNA has never had a 1 million dollar gate. Hell, they havent had a $10,000 gate, you braindead fuck. Thebi ggest crowd they haver had was 7k. You are basing this on ratings from over 15 years ago. If the same company existed today itd do 400k weekly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 02:58:23 No.5866544 Report

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>>5866524
Lol seriously AEW tours major arenas. The fact that TNA fags believe this proves they were are and always will be the dumbest fans in the history of wrestling.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 06:21:21 No.5867999 Report

Quoted By: >>5869520 >>5869530

>>5866524
>talking about ticket sales like they matter in 2022
where will the troons move the goal posts to next? lmao.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 06:26:28 No.5868016 Report

Quoted By:

>>5861653
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 06:36:00 No.5868059 Report

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>>5861738
That the NWO was a stand in for the WWF and they were invading WCW, most the core NWO guys were former WWF guys, Eric never realised this and Conrad had to point it out to him

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 06:43:24 No.5868085 Report

Quoted By:

>>5863934
no million?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 06:46:34 No.5868094 Report

Quoted By:

>>5866524
no milly?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 06:47:53 No.5868098 Report

Quoted By:

>>5861497
>I'm pretty sure they lost $60 million in a year
No, that would be AEW in 2022 alone

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 06:51:28 No.5868113 Report

Quoted By:

>>5861341
She looks like she hit the wall face first

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 06:51:47 No.5868114 Report

Quoted By: >>5868133

He actually is wrong, he's talking about financials and CM Punk made them their money back on day one with shirt sales. If he tants to talk about the improvement to what AEW puts out then he's right, CM Punk and Adam Cole have sent it down the gurgler.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 06:58:08 No.5868133 Report

Quoted By:

>>5868114
no million?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 11:28:56 No.5869348 Report

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cm kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 11:31:08 No.5869363 Report

Quoted By:

>>5860386
Any proof for any of this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 11:32:35 No.5869369 Report

Quoted By: >>5869415

>>5864172
TNA could barely get 25k PPV buys for HULK HOGAN wrestling. AEW nearly got 10x that number with "financial flop" CM Punk's debut

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 11:37:56 No.5869396 Report

Quoted By:

>>5861961
That's not true. Nash owns 51% of all nWo mech. Vince gets less money selling a nWo shirt than he does a Austin 316 shirt

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 11:42:55 No.5869415 Report

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>>5869369
>AEW got 250k PPV buys
Kek, show us the proof.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 11:45:16 No.5869428 Report

Quoted By: >>5869522

>>5860386
I was under the impression that Dynamite ticket sales were still flat for 2022 after being down in 2020/2021 both pre and post lockdown

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 11:52:02 No.5869478 Report

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Even up to 1999 WCW averaged 250k PPV buys per event. Their lowest one that year was higher than the fake numbers Tony puts out and the other dirtsheeters estimate.

By any metric, WCW 1996-1999 had a four year run that AEW won’t match if they lasted for 15 years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 11:56:28 No.5869513 Report

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Punk plus the 2020 roster would be dimes.

Punk plus the 2022 roster (ie 2019 NXT) isn't dimes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 11:57:47 No.5869520 Report

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>>5867999
>ticket sales don't matter

No Allegiant?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 11:58:09 No.5869522 Report

Quoted By: >>5869572

>>5869428
No? They're up around 30% on where they were in 2019, on average. The post COVID pop has lasted a lot longer than WWE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 11:58:53 No.5869530 Report

Quoted By:

>>5867999
They're literally 1/3 of AEWs revenue

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 12:01:53 No.5869553 Report

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>>5866524
what is with reddit tourists and not being able to differentiate a work post from a shoot post

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 12:03:07 No.5869564 Report

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>>5861562

Why then did they add an extra two hours on prime time for WCW Thunder if they hated wrestling? Why did Turner refuse numerous big money offers from several large companies to buy WCW in 1999 and 2000 if they hated wrestling and wanted rid of it?
Anon, Bischoff run that thing into the ground with insane contracts and retarded creative that drove their paying audience away. It was awash with debt and lawsuits and the TV was an embarrassment that was being beaten in the ratings by Rugrats and Ripley's Believe It Or Not at the end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 12:04:24 No.5869572 Report

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No matter how many times Eric says it, he's wrong.
>>5869522
At what point does it stop being a pop and does it start being reality

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