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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:45:00 No.6202381 View View Reply Original Report

E DRONES ON THE ROPES

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:45:43 No.6202389 Report

Quoted By: >>6204459

>>6202381
no 150k?

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:45:53 No.6202393 Report

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>>6202381
Dude, that's one-tenth of a million LMAO

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:46:01 No.6202396 Report

Quoted By: >>6204509

>>6202381
Don't care they needed at least 200k to break even

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:46:46 No.6202410 Report

Quoted By: >>6202512

>>6202381
Sounds like less than their usual PPV numbers and that's before they split the revenue with NJPW.
Is this something to brag about?

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:47:01 No.6202414 Report

Quoted By: >>6204459

>They actually didn't reach 150k
HOOOOOOLY SHIT

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:47:11 No.6202419 Report

Quoted By: >>6204459

They actually didn't reach 150k despite having the best PPV in a year. Tony is so bad at this.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:47:31 No.6202425 Report

Quoted By: >>6204629

>>6202381
dronies absolutely ethered

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:47:35 No.6202430 Report

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>>6202381
>3 weeks of build
>100k sales
>Some of the purest wrestlekino in years
Based.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:48:15 No.6202444 Report

Quoted By: >>6202453 >>6202476 >>6202492 >>6202498 >>6204459

Just like I said. Below 150k: Failure
And it's sad, too, cause it was clearly not a problem of the actual quality of the show. It's just that Tony completely bungled the actual important part: GETTING PEOPLE EXCITED FOR IT
KWAB

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:48:52 No.6202453 Report

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>>6202444
Trips of truth

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:48:59 No.6202455 Report

Quoted By: >>6204459

>no 150k
Pathetic

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:49:09 No.6202459 Report

Quoted By: >>6204459

Less than 135k is a monumental failure

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:49:28 No.6202466 Report

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>>6202381
holy kek that's not good

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:49:59 No.6202476 Report

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>>6202444
lmfao they got mogged by Revolution and Double or Nothing. Completely going against their growth because Tony can't promote for shit. You're a promoter Tony. Actually promote your shit effectively.
>*Books 50 stable run ins in your path*

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:50:57 No.6202492 Report

Quoted By: >>6202510 >>6202511 >>6202518

>>6202444
>more arbitrary numbers from dronies' headcanon
lose weight

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:51:11 No.6202498 Report

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>>6202444
>build for those PPVs
>3 months
>this one
>3 weeks

oh no main PPV bros, we get an order of magnitude more build but not that much more revenue...

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:52:02 No.6202510 Report

Quoted By: >>6202553

>>6202492
Have to give you credit for going on about arbitrary numbers in advance instead of just coping about it now. You knew this shit wasn't gonna reach it lol. You saw Tony fucking the promotion of the PPV up as well as I did.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:52:08 No.6202511 Report

Quoted By: >>6202553

>>6202492
>arbitrary numbers
OP literally references projected digital numbers none of it means anything lmao

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:52:16 No.6202512 Report

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>>6202410
Build up was mess. There wasn't any must see matches like mfj and wardlow or punk vs hangman.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:52:17 No.6202514 Report

Quoted By: >>6204459

>>6202381
>No 150k

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:52:40 No.6202518 Report

Quoted By: >>6202553

>>6202492
What arbitrary numbers? Surely you don’t mean the million benchmark your cult leader used?

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:52:55 No.6202524 Report

Quoted By: >>6204459

Tony just threw matches at random and revealed them on backstage segmentd off hand in the go home show
No shit he didn't reach the 150k

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:53:30 No.6202535 Report

Quoted By: >>6203620 >>6204958

>>6202381
>demo growth year over year
>young home grown talent starting to become house hold names
>10K sellouts every week on TV
>hundreds of thousands of PPV buys EVERY ppv
>tens of millions of units of Fight Forever projected to be sold later this year
So comfy aew bros

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:53:38 No.6202537 Report

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Maybe he should have solidified the card earlier instead of having muh mystery about the IWGP belt, for example. Or having 50 fucking matches to determine who gets to fight for the Intercontinental and Interim

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:54:33 No.6202553 Report

Quoted By: >>6202574 >>6202597 >>6204641

>>6202510
>>6202511
>>6202518
>dronies seething because AEWGODS actually enjoy our show
y'all are just sad

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:54:58 No.6202559 Report

Quoted By: >>6202836

So bad
I mean, New Japan is ecstatic anyways, I'm sure, but they would have gotten so much more if Tony actually knew how to build hype.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:55:18 No.6202574 Report

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>>6202553
I agree the show was good, bro. Tony just fucked up promoting it cause he's retarded kek

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:55:46 No.6202582 Report

Quoted By:

>>6202381
>based on early digital numbers
so made up bullshit gotcha

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 04:56:39 No.6202597 Report

Quoted By:

>>6202553
no 150k?

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 05:00:52 No.6202673 Report

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>>6202381
More like 10k kek

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 05:02:47 No.6202706 Report

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so 100-120k as expected. their lowest since the early days of their ppvs

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 05:09:23 No.6202836 Report

Quoted By: >>6202869

>>6202559
There was no way to do it with the time they had. Next time now they see the success with such short time, I hope that they plan around it better. And ideally get a talent trade going. Get some NJPW guys in for a full PPV cycle to get over or more over, same with AEW guys in Japan.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 05:11:09 No.6202869 Report

Quoted By: >>6202936

>>6202836
>There was no way to do it with the time they had
Like fucking hell there wasn't. Tony is just incapable of booking anything that isn't stable run ins. That's literally what he did for 4 weeks in a row. 0 exposure to any of those wrestlers. 0 video packages. Guys like Zack come in and have 0 mic time.
Tony is retarded.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 05:14:38 No.6202936 Report

Quoted By: >>6203017

>>6202869
You don't get to just pause -literally- everything else on your show, you still need to move other stuff forwards.

And Dominion was 6.12. He had 2 weeks proper to use people. He had to really work to get Ospreay earlier.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 05:19:10 No.6203017 Report

Quoted By: >>6203225

>>6202936
>you still need to move other stuff forwards.
Sure. He was just really inefficient even when you only take into account the time he used on New Japan. Again, it was just stable run ins.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 05:20:59 No.6203043 Report

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>>6202381
>Early digital numbers
KEK THEY EVEN HAVE A BOOTLEG FAST NATIONALS MEME COPE

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 05:35:14 No.6203225 Report

Quoted By: >>6203243

>>6203017
And from now on, there's a solid foundation to build on. To my mind, they had 2 choices, either wait and do things "properly" or just go with it now and then use that as a foundation for later. I'd say the choice for "let's just get a show going ASAP" worked out. Made money, the word of mouth hype will help sell the next and make people wanna check out the NJPW wrestlers next time they turn up.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 05:36:56 No.6203243 Report

Quoted By: >>6203251

>>6203225
You're conflating two different things. Whether they should have rushed it or not is one thing. Even with them rushing it, it was still an ineffective promotion by Tony.
>Oh fuck, we only have 2 weeks to promote the PPV
>Ok, just do 50 stable run ins
This doesn't make sense

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 05:37:30 No.6203251 Report

Quoted By: >>6203258 >>6204648

>>6203243
It worked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 05:37:59 No.6203258 Report

Quoted By:

>>6203251
>Tony bragging that he got over 100k buys
It didn't

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 05:48:57 No.6203378 Report

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If they really did only get 100k then this is a major loss for them.
100k buys on one of their own PPVs would be concerning but one with a revenue split with another company is a disaster.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 05:53:29 No.6203443 Report

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>>6202381
To put this into context, Mania did around 92,000 buys. Thats direct buys from dish, cable and DirectTV.
It has another 3 million subscribers to Peacock from the Network and 2.5 million from overseas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 05:54:38 No.6203456 Report

Quoted By: >>6203590 >>6204459

>>6202381
KWAB. It was their biggest ever hot shot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 06:06:47 No.6203590 Report

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>>6203456
They lost 40% of their usual buyrate and they have to share revenue with NJPW. Its a total failure. Its probably the biggest losing show in AEW history.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 06:09:13 No.6203620 Report

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>>6202535
>AEW video game selling 10s of millions
They can't get 900k people to tune in every week and you think they are gonna sell 10x as many video games on an old janky game engine.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 06:17:51 No.6203707 Report

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>>6202381
how come all we ever hear about are the projected numbers, i wonder? even months later, why do we not know how many people bought revolution?

this company is a work.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 07:49:21 No.6204357 Report

Quoted By: >>6204503

Goodnight /pw/. Regardless of what anyone says, AEW is bad and always will be. This is not up for debate, anyone who disagrees is a fag enabling troon.

With love
- HH

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 07:51:44 No.6204364 Report

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>>6202381
>3 years of hype for a december to dismember tier buyrate
>split with jamal
WINNING!

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 07:55:51 No.6204386 Report

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>>6202381
No million?

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 07:59:48 No.6204410 Report

Quoted By: >>6204459

In both an early gamethread and the stickied thread, I asked /pw/ what the baseline would be ahead of time. Everyone agreed on 150k, but said it would more likely be 200k.

Not even getting 100k makes me laugh oh so hard. As someone suggested, the meme this week should be something like...

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 08:07:55 No.6204459 Report

Quoted By: >>6204541

>>6202389
>>6202414
>>6202419
>>6202444
>>6202455
>>6202459
>>6202514
>>6202524
>>6203456
>>6204410
Someone asked TK if he was happy with the show and he said he was hoping for 100k and the early numbers indicate they beat that, there was no mention of what the actual number is looking like. It will be over 150k when they get the traditional ppv numbers in.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 08:14:39 No.6204503 Report

Quoted By:

>>6204357
Based Hulkster

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 08:15:54 No.6204509 Report

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>>6202396
Nah it needed 500k AEW will fold tomorrow

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 08:23:55 No.6204541 Report

Quoted By: >>6204554 >>6204597

>>6204459
>based (You) giver
Two Questions:
1 - isn't 100,000 aiming a little low for a NuJapan/AEW team up? I mean, if tomorrow Vince announced a WWE/UFC joint ppv with Logan Paul and a special appearance by The Codeman, they'd get over 1M easy!

2 - do you like my hat?

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 08:25:50 No.6204554 Report

Quoted By: >>6204604 >>6204623

>>6204541
izzy vs thea hail will main event wrestlemania one day

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 08:32:01 No.6204597 Report

Quoted By: >>6204604

>>6204541
Yes two massively larger companies teaming up would draw more. What's your point? AEW has averaged ~150k for their own shows so you'd expect it to be less for a show with a lot of lesser known wrestlers

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 08:33:18 No.6204604 Report

Quoted By:

>>6204554
>thea hail
Thea Who?
>>6204597
worked

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 08:37:47 No.6204622 Report

Quoted By: >>6204649

>>6202381
When do you realize nobody outside of the niche that already watches AEW gives two shits about jap wrestling. There will not magically be some influx of new fans due to this.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 08:37:47 No.6204623 Report

Quoted By: >>6204642

>>6204554
Never mind, I looked it up. She's cute. But her gimmick is dog boners. She'd be better off in AEW.

Her bf looks like a fuckin Alpha though. Is he a prowrestler? If not, she will cheat on him. If you want ring time, ya gotta give HBK an HBJ

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 08:39:02 No.6204629 Report

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>>6202425
Whatever helps you sleep at night, faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 08:40:32 No.6204641 Report

Quoted By:

>>6202553
>y'all
Gtfo, faggot.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 08:40:36 No.6204642 Report

Quoted By: >>6204661

>>6204623
thats that nigga 2 dimes he got fired recently

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 08:42:06 No.6204648 Report

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>>6203251
>it worked
kek

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 08:42:13 No.6204649 Report

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>>6204622
Honestly, I think the general feeling was that NuJapan would bring in more viewers to AEW. And instead, they got less and less viewers. Adding ROH was a drag on numbers as well.

Seems the more Tony tries to buff up his Kingdom, the more the foundation crumbles. It's not cracks forming, it's chasms.

Also Booker raped Spanish Fly in the cool autumn breeze of '12

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 08:45:21 No.6204661 Report

Quoted By: >>6204742

>>6204642
>2 dimes
Kek, I've seen the threads but never opened them.

In college, a black chick that I fucked called me
>"Golden Nickles"
what do u think that meant?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 08:51:17 No.6204683 Report

Quoted By: >>6204731

>>6202381
E-sisters it's time to pick up those goalposts. Where it stops nobody knows!

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 08:52:17 No.6204689 Report

Quoted By: >>6204731

>in the span of less than 24 hours, dronies moved the goalpost from "at least 100k" to "150k minimum"
Embarassing, some of those threads are still up

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 08:53:17 No.6204693 Report

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Lots of actual retards posting in here. They have to pay HALF the PPV revenue to the broadcasters, = 100k x about 30 bucks each = 3 million dollars. That's BEFORE production costs which, for a live PPV with that many cameras, etc, costs an assload. We can assume they more or less broke even considering the audience gate + merchandise (minus staffing, security, etc)

3 million probably cut in half with NJPW, so that's 1.5 million. Do you really think they spent less than 1.5 million on AEW talent for the show? Not a chance. PPV came nowhere close to breaking even, call me Okada for raining on your parade. Dumbfucks.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 09:01:52 No.6204731 Report

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>>6204683
>>6204689
Hey if you're gonna get worked do the work
Go screencap all those threads
Go ahead, we'll wait

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 09:03:40 No.6204742 Report

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>>6204661
idk my college queens didnt give me a funky name

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 09:40:14 No.6204894 Report

Quoted By:

>>6202381
Holy shit the company is dying… we actually did it…

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 09:50:23 No.6204951 Report

Quoted By:

>>6202381
>Tony Khan says
I’ll wait until the actual numbers are released by bleacher report and FITE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 09:51:20 No.6204958 Report

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>>6202535
Their average dynamite viewer has gone from 42 to 50 since 2019, while total viewership is down 40% since the debut.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 09:58:10 No.6204981 Report

Quoted By: >>6205100

Fite/Bleacher don’t release numbers to anyone but Tony Khan. Early estimates are done by Twitter AEW minions and rarely corrected if they are too high.

AEW is a private company funded by a billionaire who has multiple lawsuits and environmental violations. As a private company, they don’t do SEC reporting and have no obligation to report accurate numbers.

In other words, this could be doing the estimated 100k (which btw, is a disappointment) or it could be doing 10k. We will never really know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 10:16:17 No.6205100 Report

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>>6204981
Go post this on pw reddit and they'll ban your ass permanently

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 10:18:59 No.6205113 Report

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Shit, there were nearly 100 watching in my discord server alone! Massive numbers!!!!

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