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Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 10:19:52 No.6782606 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>6782609 >>6782676 >>6783306 >>6784149 >>6784322 >>6785723

Every single Starrcade outside of the first two fucking sucked and I'm tired of pretending Otherwise. Never seen such a big show dissapoint every single time like this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 10:21:55 No.6782609 Report

Quoted By: >>6783308

>>6782606
Still more epic than every single show ever made by AEW.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 10:23:56 No.6782616 Report

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The wrong show died damnit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 10:38:59 No.6782676 Report

Quoted By:

>>6782606
‘96 had luger vs giant and that match was based

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 11:55:21 No.6783014 Report

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85 is better than 83 and 84 you retard
96 is also great

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 12:38:22 No.6783225 Report

Quoted By: >>6783235 >>6783277 >>6783286 >>6785330 >>6785744

Halloween Havoc was the big show.
Bischoff said this.
Tony said this.
Starrcade being WCW WrestleMania is smark headcanon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 12:41:14 No.6783235 Report

Quoted By: >>6783243 >>6783304 >>6785330

>>6783225
Ok, how you know?

But seriously, where did they say this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 12:43:31 No.6783243 Report

Quoted By: >>6783277

>>6783235
Their podcasts with Conrad.
Came up in Starrcade episodes pre-AEW.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 12:47:56 No.6783259 Report

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Most WCW PPVs were hot garbage

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 12:51:25 No.6783277 Report

Quoted By: >>6783284 >>6783302 >>6784113 >>6785577

>>6783225
>>6783243

But Starrcade had the conclusion to the Sting/Hogan angle and the end of Goldberg's streak.

These are the 2 biggest storylines Bischoff ever did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 12:52:32 No.6783284 Report

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>>6783277
And he fucked up both of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 12:53:11 No.6783286 Report

Quoted By: >>6783296 >>6783313 >>6784129

>>6783225
What's the WCW equivalent of Big Four/Five PPV?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 12:55:04 No.6783296 Report

Quoted By:

>>6783286
Starrcade
Superbrawl
Halloween Havoc
World War 3

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 12:56:25 No.6783302 Report

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>>6783277
One of the most memorable moments in wrestling was when Undertaker threw Mankind off of the cage at King of the Ring. King of the Ring is now relegated to an angle for lower card talent. Sometimes the fans have a different perception than the people who work there.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 12:56:57 No.6783304 Report

Quoted By: >>6785330 >>6785586

>>6783235
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9Hy-TKw4Ds

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 12:57:47 No.6783306 Report

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>>6782606
Starrcade 83 and 96 were the only two good ones. 1997 had a lot of potential as well, but we all know what happened with that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 12:58:10 No.6783308 Report

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>>6782609
rent-free

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 12:59:06 No.6783313 Report

Quoted By:

>>6783286
Halloween Havoc
Bash at the Beach
The Great American Bash
Starrcade

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 14:59:01 No.6784113 Report

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>>6783277
That was at a point when almost all 12 of WCW's annual PPVs were big deals.

Bischoff & Tony think Halloween Havoc was their biggest show because it had a better, longer track record of big shows and once MGM Grand became the official home of HH, it created big hype.

Even Schiavone thinks Starrcade was never the same once it stopped being a Thanksgiving show and it left Greensboro, SC. It was a Crockett family tradition, not a WCW tradition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 15:00:56 No.6784129 Report

Quoted By: >>6786161

>>6783286
Superbrawl in February
Spring Stampede in April was a dark horse 5th
Bash at the Beach
Halloween Havoc
Starrcade

Uncensored, Slamboree, Road Wild, Fall Brawl/War Games, World War 3 were B show gimmick kino

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 15:02:59 No.6784149 Report

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>>6782606
83 85 88 92 are the ones worth watching.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 15:22:48 No.6784322 Report

Quoted By: >>6785303

>>6782606
Says the faggot born after 2005. Take a shower, hit the weights, get a clue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 17:28:00 No.6785303 Report

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>>6784322
Hey be nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 17:31:02 No.6785330 Report

Quoted By: >>6785973 >>6786075

>>6783304
>>6783235
>>6783225
Revisionist history. Hogan v Sting and Nash v Goldberg weren't booked for Halloween Havoc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 17:58:58 No.6785577 Report

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>>6783277

Traditionally, WCW was all over the place with regards to what their Wrestlemania type "big show" was.

Bischoff definitely gave Halloween Havoc high priority as at the time, the WWE didn't do a Halloween themed show. But Bischoff's also said over the years that he considered both Bash at the Beach and Super Brawl to be equally important as far as being the WCW version of Wrestlemania. Starcade had importance, but it was more forced importance from fans than actual importance internally due to Hogan not liking to work in December and preferring to be with his family around Christmas time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 17:59:59 No.6785586 Report

Quoted By:

>>6783304
where is that picture from? never saw bischoff with a mustache on TV even when he was doing shit for AWA....

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 18:16:49 No.6785723 Report

Quoted By:

>>6782606
There were some good ones and bad ones, but they never really made it their "WrestleMania" like they should've.

They had their chance in 1997 and thought "Well, we still need to build around Hulk Hogan and the nWo" and signed their death knell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 18:19:02 No.6785744 Report

Quoted By: >>6785908

>>6783225
Bischoff is full of shit, if you couldn't tell from his constant deflection to "Time-Warner wanted to get rid of this, and it didn't matter that I tanked the ratings"

WCW did experiment a lot with Havoc, GAB, SuperBrawl, and Starrcade at various points, but by the Monday Night Wars, especially in 1996 with Hogan/Piper, it was very clearly their #1 show.

Everything else is Bischoff being super indecisive. Yes, Havoc was big and had big matches and the Vegas atmosphere, but Starrcade always had a bigger match headlining it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 18:33:50 No.6785908 Report

Quoted By: >>6785957

>>6785744
Schiavone independently agreed that it was Havoc, who has way more clout in regards to WCW than Eric given his tenure. Total fan headcanon that it was Starrcade as their supershow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 18:38:20 No.6785957 Report

Quoted By: >>6786031

>>6785908
>Total fan headcanon that it was Starrcade as their supershow.
>Literally marketed as "The Granddaddy of Them All"
retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 18:39:31 No.6785973 Report

Quoted By: >>6785983

>>6785330
>muh nash v goldberg
>muh sting v hogan
Talking about revisionist history
Luger beat Hogan in june you dork

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 18:40:19 No.6785983 Report

Quoted By: >>6785993

>>6785973
on a Nitro you larping faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 18:41:49 No.6785993 Report

Quoted By: >>6786006 >>6786056 >>6786085

>>6785983
Aaand?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 18:44:25 No.6786006 Report

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>>6785993
And what does that have to do with their biggest PPV for months later?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 18:47:45 No.6786031 Report

Quoted By: >>6786056

>>6785957
>Literally marketed as "The Granddaddy of Them All"
You want to tell me that Slammiversary was bigger than Bound For Glory?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 18:51:01 No.6786056 Report

Quoted By: >>6786132

>>6785993
And what does that have to do with their biggest PPV four months later?
>>6786031
Who and what? We're talking about WCW, which clearly marketed Starrcade as the biggest show of the year, every year

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 18:52:58 No.6786075 Report

Quoted By: >>6786103

>>6785330
>weren't booked for Halloween Havoc
Yeah, instead they booked
>Goldberg v DDP
>Hogan v Warrior
>Bret Hart v Sting
>Scott Hall v Kevin Nash
>Rick v Scott

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 18:53:57 No.6786085 Report

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>>6785993
Starrcade was their biggest PPV buyrate ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 18:55:35 No.6786103 Report

Quoted By: >>6786112 >>6786200

>>6786075
>>Goldberg v DDP
>>Hogan v Warrior
>>Bret Hart v Sting
>>Scott Hall v Kevin Nash
>>Rick v Scott
Dimeless matches and feuds that no one cared about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 18:56:28 No.6786112 Report

Quoted By:

>>6786103
Headcanon kicks in

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 18:58:52 No.6786132 Report

Quoted By: >>6786198

>>6786056
>Who and what?
Kek what a dumb zoomer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 19:02:18 No.6786161 Report

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>>6784129
Fall brawl should be ranked higher. War games was a gimmick but each one had lasting consequences for each one

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 19:05:57 No.6786198 Report

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>>6786132
oldfag that stopped watching after the invasion, couldn't give a shit about TNA, and you're obviously projecting since you don't know shit about WCW

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 19:06:08 No.6786200 Report

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>>6786103
None of them out drew Hogan vs Sting or Nash vs Goldberg despite "competing with Christmas" as Bitchoff put it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 19:09:50 No.6786225 Report

Quoted By: >>6786337 >>6786345

>Starrcade was created in 1983. Wrestlemania was created in 1985. Now that we have that established allow me to interpret my original message indicating that Starrcade was the NWA’s answer to the WWE’s Wrestlemania. Obviously I did not explain this well. JCP often talked after the 1st ‘Mania that the NWA already had “their Mania” in Starrcade. After the success of the 1st ‘Mania, an increased focused was put on Starrcade to be as big as Wrestlemania. McMahon hit gold with his PPV “big event” concept and Jim Crockett Promotions wanted to follow suit and essentially mortgaged their future to some degree to do so. Writing quickly in an airport on a Blacberry takes skills I don’t have...obviously. Nonetheless, I did not mean to infer that Starrcade derived from Wrestlemania but in reality the PPV component and the success that ‘Mania #1 garnered was a catalyst in Starrcade becoming the Crockett/NWA’s overwhelming top priority. I was actually involved in conversations where some in JCP thought that the WWE “stole” the Starrcade concept to create Wrestlemania. Now that’s an interesting take on the matter. So even though Starrcade came before Wrestlemania, the focus and emphasis put into Starrcade including moving it out of Greensboro came from the national success of Wrestlemania.
https://web.archive.org/web/20080926051949/http://www.jrsbarbq.com/blog/to-set-record-straight
Truly remarkable how retarded this board is

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 19:23:56 No.6786337 Report

Quoted By: >>6786866

>>6786225
Oh so it's dumb fat bitch JR vs Bischoff & Schiavone.
Talking about retards huh

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 19:24:32 No.6786345 Report

Quoted By: >>6786866

>>6786225
>JR babbling on a blackberry in an airport
Thanks for contributing nothing to the conversation, faggot. Go back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 20:21:20 No.6786866 Report

Quoted By: >>6786901 >>6786923

>>6786337
>>6786345
>Oh it's someone who was there from the beginning, and not the failed promoter coping about his failure? Nah, not interested
How does Bischoff even have stans? Did your father's not even stick around to beat you and your whore mothers once in awhile?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 20:25:41 No.6786901 Report

Quoted By:

>>6786866
>father's
Goooood morning!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2022 20:28:01 No.6786923 Report

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>>6786866
>Did your father's
GOOD MORING SIR

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