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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 15:41:01 No.7616858 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>7616890 >>7616938 >>7616967 >>7617569 >>7617572 >>7617615 >>7617641 >>7617736

If Shawn Michaels was so highly rated by WWE why did he only win 4 world titles titles?

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 15:43:57 No.7616885 Report

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because that's how much he wanted to win

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 15:44:32 No.7616890 Report

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>>7616858
He didn’t want it. He had more creative pull than anyone in wwe history other than hogan

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 15:52:20 No.7616938 Report

Quoted By: >>7616945 >>7616952 >>7616964

>>7616858
He wasn't a draw. As good a worker as he was, Shawn just couldn't draw as a babyface. He even got booked out of the building against heel Sycho Sid who went so far as to attack his elderly manager.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 15:53:21 No.7616945 Report

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>>7616938
*booed out of the building.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 15:54:31 No.7616952 Report

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>>7616938
This is true of 90s HBK, but he was hot as a babyface for a bit after his return before he got bogged down into the nu-DX.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 15:56:15 No.7616964 Report

Quoted By: >>7617561

>>7616938
But Carder and Gaitch won many as well.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 15:56:30 No.7616967 Report

Quoted By: >>7616982

>>7616858
he didnt want the belt during his second run, he shouldve beat cena one time, he definitely shouldve beaten jericho for it as well.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 15:58:18 No.7616982 Report

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>>7616967
I think he didn't do a full-time house schedule as most wrestlers and at the time there were still enough stars with full-time schedule that could be champ, though it was a bit thin around 2007 and 2008.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 17:22:42 No.7617561 Report

Quoted By: >>7617586

>>7616964
Taker was their only reliable guy in the mid 90s other than Bret. So he got rewarded with the title run in 97. The Bret-Austin feud was hot and didn't need the title. And of course Shawn was throwing a bitch for most of 97. Later on, Taker was just a guy that sometimes held the belt to put others over eventually. His reliability and believability were the key reasons, not drawing. As for Haitch, we both know why he got so many title runs. He was fucking Steph, and even before that the was sucking up to Vince and was part of the Kliq.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 17:23:33 No.7617568 Report

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because he didnt work house shows so there was no point

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 17:23:42 No.7617569 Report

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>>7616858
He wasn't a belt mark like Paul or Cena.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 17:24:18 No.7617572 Report

Quoted By: >>7617579

>>7616858
If he's so good why did he never draw a dime

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 17:25:12 No.7617579 Report

Quoted By: >>7617584

>>7617572
Enough about paul

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 17:25:46 No.7617584 Report

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>>7617579
Triple GOAT is one of the biggest PPV draws of all time, though.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 17:26:03 No.7617586 Report

Quoted By: >>7617600 >>7617700

>>7617561
>As for Haitch, we both know why he got so many title runs. He was fucking Steph
>He was fucking Steph
kek in your dreams, paul. you've always been a caged lttle cucky slave. you prepped Steph's Black bulls and took strap on cock in your loose sloppy boipussi.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 17:26:27 No.7617591 Report

Quoted By: >>7617605

REMINDER

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 17:28:03 No.7617600 Report

Quoted By: >>7617618 >>7617625 >>7617638

>>7617586
>weird dead meme cuck fantasies
Bow the fuck down.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 17:29:06 No.7617605 Report

Quoted By: >>7617611

>>7617591
>historically
That means that technically Paul "wins" because he main evented more shows than anyone in WWE history, but per capita HBK blows him away. Triple Cuck politicked his way to like 15 WM main events.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 17:30:29 No.7617611 Report

Quoted By: >>7617673

>>7617605
The thing that HHH had was that he wrestled at the same time as Rock and Austin, therefore more eyes were on him than were on HBK in the mid 90's.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 17:31:13 No.7617615 Report

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>>7616858
coke head shawn would have kept going if he didnt get "injured" and would have buried everyone but his boyfriend for more titles. Born again HBK just wanted to have good matches and put on a show for the people (except against hogan because of LePolitics)

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 17:31:45 No.7617618 Report

Quoted By: >>7617624

>>7617600
Nobody bought those Wrestlemanias becasue HHH was in the main event. They paid to see Austin, Rock, Hogan, Bret, Shawn, Vince, Cena, Undertaker, Batista, Orton, Lesnar, Goldberg, Mankind, Edge, Mysterio, Angle, Kane, and the WWE brand.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 17:32:14 No.7617624 Report

Quoted By: >>7617638 >>7617642

>>7617618
Cope.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 17:32:24 No.7617625 Report

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>>7617600
conorxirs...

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 17:33:52 No.7617638 Report

Quoted By: >>7617640 >>7617700

>>7617600
>>7617624
You're the one coping, Paul. Got nothing better to do during Locktober? Steph still not letting you cum? Still stuck in your cage despite all of your cuck rage? Your mouth and ass sore from all the Bull poundings?

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 17:34:17 No.7617640 Report

Quoted By: >>7617656

>>7617638
Cope.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 17:34:17 No.7617641 Report

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>>7616858
>If Shawn Michaels was so highly rated by WWE why did he only win 4 world titles titles?
He didn't want to work house shows when he came back

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 17:34:21 No.7617642 Report

Quoted By: >>7617661

>>7617624
Paulcel seething that he never drew a dime. Typical

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 17:35:41 No.7617656 Report

Quoted By: >>7617661 >>7617700

>>7617640
Is it hard to type with Steph's bbc strap on rearranging your insides?

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 17:36:18 No.7617661 Report

Quoted By: >>7617674 >>7617958

>>7617642
>>7617656
Cope.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 17:37:46 No.7617673 Report

Quoted By: >>7617681 >>7617936

Possibly because he didn't wanna be champ anymore.

There's also the chance he stopped banging Vince because dude-on-dude sex makes the Baby Jesus cry.

>>7617611

Triple H was still a bigger draw after Rock and Austin left than HBK was at his peak.

I love HBK, and he's the better wrestler, but it's not even a debate Hunter was the bigger draw.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 17:38:01 No.7617674 Report

Quoted By: >>7617694

>>7617661
Never drew a dime no matter how much you spam this over and over

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 17:39:16 No.7617681 Report

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>>7617673
>I love HBK, and he's the better wrestler, but it's not even a debate Hunter was the bigger draw.
Not true. HBK on top drew more than Paul.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 17:41:01 No.7617694 Report

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>>7617674
Cope.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 17:42:04 No.7617700 Report

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>>7617586
>>7617638
>>7617656
>cuck fantasy getting absolutely btfo by facts
BOW DOWN TO THE
BOW DOWN TO THE KING

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 17:45:11 No.7617728 Report

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he was injured by the time he finally hit the main event

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 17:46:16 No.7617736 Report

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>>7616858
>why did he only win 4 world titles titles?
He didn't want to work Tuesdays.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 18:07:57 No.7617936 Report

Quoted By: >>7617948 >>7617969

>>7617673
Average quarter rating draw

>Triple H +152,000 (1999), +164,000 (2002), +81,000 (2003)
>Shawn Michaels +0.2 (1997), +269,814 (1999), +202,900 (2003)
>Steve Austin +9 (1997), +265,182 (1999), +145,900 (2002), +351,000 (2003)
>Chris Jericho +12 (1997), +155,000 (1999), +190,000 (2002), +101,000 (2003)
>The Rock +165,000 (1999), +127,000 (2002), +127,000 (2002), +269,400 (2003)

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 18:09:51 No.7617948 Report

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>>7617936
>Triple Nose's peak is still lower than everyone else despite the biggest push in company history
HAHAHAAHA

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 18:10:38 No.7617958 Report

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>>7617661
Biggest draw in company history
Gotta love the game, baby

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 18:11:34 No.7617969 Report

Quoted By: >>7618010 >>7618015

>>7617936
>Shawn going from a anti draw to that high after his retirement
Legit how?

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 18:16:03 No.7618010 Report

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>>7617969
Redemption gimmick worked for a while. But he got massive heat during his feud with Hogan, while Hogan was getting massive pops. That was during 2005, when Hogan was 52 and completely broken down.
All hail the GOAT

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 18:16:20 No.7618015 Report

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>>7617969
Because he wasn't in many segments and the segments he was in were heavily advertised and always featured other top draws.
It's far more impressive that Austin has the gain he did when he was all over the show non-stop.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2022 18:55:00 No.7618402 Report

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HBK First Run Title History:
Wins the Tag Titles as The Rockers. The rope falls off during the match, the belts are given back to the Hart Foundation and the reign stricken from record
Wins the IC Title from Bulldog. Loses it to Jannetty.
Wins the IC Title back from Jannetty, vacates it.
Wins the Tag Title with Diesel, vacates it.
Wins the IC Title from Jarret, vacates it.
Wins the Tag Title with Diesel, loses it back the next night.
Wins the World Title, loses it to Sid.
Wins the World Title back from Sid, vacates it right before Wrestlemania.
Wins the Tag Titles with Austin, vacates them when Bret shoot kicks his ass.
Wins the World Title from Bret, loses it to Austin after taking months off and threatening to pull his same bullshit.

Why didn’t he win more titles? Because he was unreliable as all hell.

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