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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 22:57:21 No.7784861 View View Reply Original Report

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>is so respected that the 2 top American promotions send talent for you to face/team with

based Muta

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:04:06 No.7784922 Report

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>>7784861
GOAT

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:05:16 No.7784930 Report

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>>7784861
literally who

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:07:09 No.7784943 Report

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>>7784861
Gotta love Muto. The Genius, baby.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:08:30 No.7784953 Report

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>>7784861
am i wrong to think that tanahashi and okada retiring would get the same treatment?

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:09:36 No.7784962 Report

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>>7784953
You’re retarded not just dead wrong.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:10:29 No.7784965 Report

Quoted By: >>7785061

>>7784953
No Muta was a genuine star in the west

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:11:05 No.7784968 Report

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>>7784953
>Comparing a wrestling icon who was one of the faces of the business during its peak to Nujamal shitters
You tell me

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:15:27 No.7785007 Report

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>>7784953
they definitely would, i don't know why the other replies are seething

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:19:11 No.7785040 Report

Quoted By: >>7785085 >>7785092 >>7785093 >>7785264

>>7784968
Okada is literally a bigger name than Keiji Mutoh. Did Mutoh ever have a six star match? Didn't think so.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:22:00 No.7785061 Report

Quoted By: >>7785071

>>7784965
>No Muta was a genuine star in the west
not really. 1990 was 30 years ago and when he returned to wcw in the late 90s nobody gave a fuck. im not saying im not a fan but lets be honest here

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:23:03 No.7785071 Report

Quoted By: >>7785117

>>7785061
>when he returned to wcw in the late 90s nobody gave a fuck
Vampiro and ICP did.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:24:17 No.7785085 Report

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>>7785040
It just shows how meaningless the star ratings are.
People remember characters. Spots. Angles and so on.
Meltzer's idea of wrestling doesn't draw.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:24:43 No.7785092 Report

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>>7785040
Okada actually had a 7 stars match, shows you how much better he is than mutoh

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:24:45 No.7785093 Report

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>>7785040
*7 star match

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:25:50 No.7785105 Report

Quoted By: >>7785120 >>7785125

>>7785085
>Meltzer's idea of wrestling doesn't draw.
so okada vs kenny 5 wouldnt draw?

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:27:13 No.7785116 Report

Quoted By: >>7785183

>>7784953
No. And that's not a knock on them. When he came to the NWA and hit that first moonsault on World Championship Wrestling that was a game changer. The seeds for work rate and flippy shit was planted by him for the next generation, for better or worse.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:27:21 No.7785117 Report

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>>7785071
i liked vampiro sad he never made it to the wwe after wcw closed

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:27:34 No.7785120 Report

Quoted By: >>7785212 >>7786694

>>7785105
Not beyond the small niche. Look at what the Elite do to the tv ratings. Look at the massacres that happened every time a 6 star flippy trios match was on tv.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:27:55 No.7785125 Report

Quoted By: >>7785212

>>7785105
Probably not, no.
It would attract the same people who watched the other 4.
And that was a number a lot lower than even the 500K that AEW get on Fridays with Rampage.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:28:49 No.7785133 Report

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>>7784953

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:32:41 No.7785177 Report

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>>7784953
Tanahashi is an all-time great, but he's damaging his legacy by appearing in AEW and losing to shitters who can't lace his boots.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:33:18 No.7785183 Report

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>>7785116
what does this have to do with WWE potentially sending out nakamura for tanahashis retirement match

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:36:07 No.7785212 Report

Quoted By: >>7785241 >>7785252 >>7785865

>>7785120
>>7785125
forbidden door did 15k
okada vs kenny sold out the dome

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:38:41 No.7785241 Report

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>>7785212
Man, Okada/Omega wasn't the reason it sold out. Believe it or not, people weren't that hyped about the main event because Omega wasn't a big star at that point.
New Japan were also at their hottest in a long time. That's how it did so well.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:41:37 No.7785252 Report

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>>7785212
>sold out the dome
lmao

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:44:28 No.7785264 Report

Quoted By: >>7785309 >>7785780 >>7785785

>>7785040
I know this is shitposting but I would be surprised if mutoh has no 5 star matches judged by how much meltzer loves japanese dick

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:51:08 No.7785309 Report

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>>7785264
>loves
Meltzer is a contrarian, man. Always has been. A super mark who dislikes what's popular and loves niche shit.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:59:53 No.7785381 Report

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>>7784953
Maybe but definitely not by wwe.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 00:57:40 No.7785780 Report

Quoted By: >>7785807

>>7785264
Meltzer is an AJPW/King's Road fanboy, he always found 90s era NJPW to be boring.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 00:58:38 No.7785785 Report

Quoted By: >>7785818

>>7785264
He has two, although he mostly likes 90s All Japan and modern New Japan; he never gave Chono and Hashimoto five stars.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 01:00:16 No.7785795 Report

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>>7784861
Based as fuck
Muta is a god.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 01:01:33 No.7785807 Report

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>>7785780
Because NJPW was more popular then. Again, he's a contrarian.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 01:02:33 No.7785818 Report

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>>7785785
>Chono and Hashimoto five stars
And yet, you remember them but can't remember the last 5 matches who he did give 5 stars to.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 01:11:04 No.7785865 Report

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>>7785212
>okada vs kenny sold out the dome
headcanoning for (You)'s is genuinely sad as fuck

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 01:14:16 No.7785880 Report

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>>7784953
I could definitely see Nakamura wrestling at Tanahashi's retirement if Tanahashi retires first, whether Nakamura is in WWE or not. Basically the same as this scenario.

No way Okada retires before either of them, that'd really be shocking.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 01:15:57 No.7785890 Report

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>>7784953
Okada's got another twenty years in the tank. Even Tana's probably got another ten. Both will be like Mutoh and barely be able to move before they call it quits.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 01:29:00 No.7785968 Report

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>>7784953
I think the fact Muta did so much in the west to bring attention to Japanese wrestling warrants the respect, Tana and Okada, while they did a great job attracting westerners back to watching NJPW without having to step foot in the major American promotions (maybe ROH and no Okada in TNA doesn't count lmao).
It just goes both ways

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 02:44:10 No.7786554 Report

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>>7784953
Very well said my brother

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 03:06:11 No.7786694 Report

Quoted By: >>7786730

>>7785120
Wrestling in 2022 is niche as a whole. All these companies should work together to save the dying medium.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 03:14:14 No.7786730 Report

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>>7786694
>All these companies should work together to save the dying medium.
whats the logic?

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