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Is this more proof wrestling isn't hard at all?

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 20:42:24 No.7850102 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>7850113 >>7850121 >>7850130 >>7850168 >>7850172 >>7850204 >>7850304 >>7850418 >>7850420 >>7852040 >>7852069 >>7852110 >>7853442

Celebs come in regularly and put on good matches at this point. WWE is filled with ig and fitness models who can wrestle with no prior experience. Is wrestling actually easy as fuck?

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 20:43:12 No.7850113 Report

Quoted By: >>7852257

>>7850102
>Is this more proof wrestling isn't hard at all?
no stupid, this is more proof that wrestling is infested with no charisma shitters and that Logan Paul is really good

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 20:44:01 No.7850121 Report

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>>7850102
NOOOOO, LOGAN PAUL IS SPECIAL, HES A TALENT HES ONE OF THE BOYYSSS HE NOT A MARK!!

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 20:44:44 No.7850130 Report

Quoted By: >>7850256 >>7852135 >>7854397

>>7850102
All modern wrestlers got exposed hard by this dude. Had a dim view of them before but it's now common knowlege that they're absolutely talentless non-athletes

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 20:45:06 No.7850132 Report

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WWE isn't wrestling though

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 20:45:18 No.7850134 Report

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>>7850121
that's a picture of you

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 20:46:30 No.7850155 Report

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>>7850134
it's actually (you) mark ass faggot

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 20:47:42 No.7850168 Report

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>>7850102
Gotta have athleticism.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 20:48:04 No.7850172 Report

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>>7850102
Yes, WWE is better off trying to sign established charismatic entertainers that people already care about like the Paul brothers, Dream, Belle Delphine, etc. They could've thrown big money at Will Smith and Chris Rock when that was still relevant and had them settle that shit in a WWE ring too. It's far easier to teach people pro wrestling moves than it is to teach indie shitters how to cut good promos and have good character work.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 20:49:51 No.7850193 Report

Quoted By: >>7850282

>>7850172
>They could've thrown big money at Will Smith and Chris Rock when that was still relevant and had them settle that shit in a WWE ring too.
Holy based

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 20:50:46 No.7850204 Report

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>>7850102
you know what? i'm starting to think maybe wrestling has ALWAYS sucked and we just didn't realize it before because we were kids and then the nostalgia/rose-colored glasses effect. but now all that's worn off.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 20:51:27 No.7850210 Report

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The problem is that the type of person who wants to be a pro wrestler is usually an autistic dork. When someone who is charismatic and actually athletic comes in, they make the average wrestler look shitty by comparison.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 20:51:52 No.7850220 Report

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>>7850121
It be dat tho

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 20:53:07 No.7850239 Report

Quoted By: >>7850283

>>7850172
Vince was ahead of his time. That's what Wrestlemania was originally all about, getting celebrities involved

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 20:55:11 No.7850256 Report

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>>7850130
cmchump almost killed wrestling and the paul bros are reviving it

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 20:57:09 No.7850282 Report

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>>7850193
Right? Could you imagine how much money that would draw? They'd easily make their paychecks to Will Smith and Chris Rock back. If I had the starting capital that a lot of these money marks have I'd easily beat the competition. Vince Russo is right, people want the drama and characters, they want to see Belle Delphine strip dance in the ring only to be clothelined by Giannis Antetokounmpo, not two weeaboo geeks playfighting for 60 minutes.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 20:57:11 No.7850283 Report

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>>7850239
and it was a brilliant concept. for wrestlemania. now celebs get involved all year round, watering down the concept and devaluing wrestlemania. is wrestlemania as special now as it used to be? nope. the worst was when they had a celeb every week on raw

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 20:57:28 No.7850285 Report

Quoted By: >>7850362 >>7850444

Look dude there’s a reason wrestlers are all pretty much washouts from real sports or drama theater geeks that grew up as marks. Shits a joke. I mean Dr. bitch got knocked the fuck out by Geraldo Rivera a little midget Jew reporter and JBL got /heemed/ by Joey styles that should tell you all you need to know

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 20:58:48 No.7850304 Report

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>>7850102
Nah Edrones just have shit standards on what qualifies as a good match

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 20:58:55 No.7850306 Report

Quoted By: >>7850379 >>7850381

>>7850172
you’re retarded. there’s a reason jake wrestles 3 times a year. wrestling every week, let alone 3 times with house shows is impossible for them. your business model is stupid, these celebs have to rehearse for weeks before they have a passable match

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 21:00:07 No.7850324 Report

Quoted By: >>7850345 >>7852721

Paul has been amazing but I also wonder if his matches have been great so far because he gets plenty of time to rehearse and train for them. Full time wrestlers get wear and tear and have to improvise shit since they work so much. So you're better off just making a name for yourself outside of wrestling first and then you can come in and train to have one really good match and have people start calling you the GOAT.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 21:01:52 No.7850345 Report

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>>7850324
>Full time wrestlers get wear and tear and have to improvise shit since they work so much
the fuck? Every televised match in America is rehearsed yo some degree

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 21:03:06 No.7850362 Report

Quoted By: >>7850400

>>7850285
shawn michaels had his ass handed to him by some faggot sailor just a few months before winning the most important championship in wrestling. any other promoter would have prevented michaels winning the wwf title in order to protect the business. but vince never cared and always openly declared wrestling to be fake.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 21:04:06 No.7850379 Report

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>>7850306
roberts still wrestles? damn

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 21:04:20 No.7850381 Report

Quoted By: >>7850479

>>7850306
House shows don't draw shit, they're barely even worth it. If you build the PPVs up to be more of a must-see spectacle you can afford to do without them anyways, Jake Paul alone made like 40 millions dollars off of three fights in 2021, why? Because like it or not a fuck ton of people wanted to see him fight.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 21:05:43 No.7850400 Report

Quoted By: >>7851209

>>7850362
It was some random 18 year old private in the marines. Literally a highschool senior kicked the shit out of the so called world champion

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 21:08:14 No.7850418 Report

Quoted By: >>7850448

>>7850102
If you're only doing PPVs then celebrities and fitness models would be fine because they have weeks to go over the match and practice their spots. But with weekly TV shows, some weeks you might have a few hours at most to practice your match. We've seen this over and over again where somebody really stands out in NXT, then they're brought to the main roster and they are completely average.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 21:08:29 No.7850420 Report

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>>7850102
nah just proof that natural talent beats hard work

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 21:11:19 No.7850444 Report

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>>7850285
>hurr dey washouts
>make millions of dollars if you become a star
>make millions of luls and memes for a job
are you idiot? Most boxers and MMA fighters would dump their sport to become a WWE legend. Fighting skill can bring credibility but it takes a backseat to it factor
you need a good ole JBL hogtying for being such a fag

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 21:11:49 No.7850448 Report

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>>7850418
>But with weekly TV shows, some weeks you might have a few hours at most to practice your match
Go with the Attitude Era model, quick fast-paced two to five minute matches with chaotic finishes and lots of character work/move spam. The main event can be reserved for the more experienced and better wrestlers.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 21:15:09 No.7850479 Report

Quoted By: >>7850559

>>7850381
Yes and he still wouldn't wanna wrestle multiple times every week like he should do if he was carrying the company like for example Reigns, of course you can become a semi-competent pro wrestler if you put in the effort but the vast majority of people don't want to, that's why if Logan isn't reliable and they'll never give him an important strap unless he gets way more experience first.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 21:23:09 No.7850559 Report

Quoted By: >>7850758

>>7850479
Brock has shown up for a non-wrestling segment every other week or two for the past 10 years of his career and is still largely considered one of the best things about WWE in the PG era by most fans, nobody gives a shit that he doesn't wrestle every week. He shows up, gets introduced by Paul Heyman, F5s some faggots, and then dips and gets paid while still drawing enough money in to make this strategy viable. TV episodes should be buildup to the PPVs anyways, more focus on the storylines rather than the wrestling, the wrestling spots should be reserved solely for PPV.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 21:34:22 No.7850712 Report

Quoted By: >>7850789

Wrestling literally isn't hard. It's just gatekept by wrestlers who want to feel special. It's been like that since the beginning. Celeb comes in and does good and suddenly he's a special case who "just picked it up quickly" except every fucking celeb nowadays puts on at least a mid-tier match because the shit's easy.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 21:37:01 No.7850758 Report

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>>7850559
Lesnar was very active during his first years of his career, so active in fact that he got tired of the schedule and left, he wouldn't have been doing power moves to Big Show if people in the backstage didn't trust his abilities too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 21:39:08 No.7850789 Report

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>>7850712
A mid-tier match for WWE standards maybe, it wouldn't fly anywhere else, even in the attitude era celebrities generally had bad matches and were only praised because of course you wouldn't expect them to be able to perform any moves, Logan is a step up from those times though but its clear he got trained properly and for a decent amounf of time.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 22:11:28 No.7851209 Report

Quoted By: >>7852404 >>7853667

>>7850400
Source? The WWF narrative was that he got jumped by a dozen guys, wasn't it?

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 23:27:43 No.7852040 Report

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>>7850102
yes

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 23:29:58 No.7852069 Report

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>>7850102
WWE has Logan. AEW has dollar store Hook. You now Remember Hook

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 23:31:42 No.7852092 Report

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If you have confidence it's probably not that hard. The issue is when guys are too scared to do anything properly or look comfortable in the ring.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 23:33:06 No.7852110 Report

Quoted By: >>7852279

>>7850102
I think it is a mix of natural talent and drive. You can tell he's really motivated and focused with putting on great matches. Most celebs just learn only the basics since its a one time deal, but you can tell he's very invested and serious about it. The results speak for themself. He's definitely a freak outlier.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 23:33:08 No.7852112 Report

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>>7850172
You're retarded, but you right on the money with your last sentence there. And to add to that, the talking matters a lot more than the wrestling-- there's a minimum requirement, and that's to be able to work safe, which is a much lower bar than the ability you need to talk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 23:34:31 No.7852135 Report

Quoted By: >>7852180 >>7852335

>>7850130
Punk is one of the few that understand wrasslin

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 23:37:53 No.7852180 Report

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>>7852135
Now Punk will understand wrestling from the couch like the rest of us

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 23:42:36 No.7852257 Report

Quoted By: >>7852311

>>7850113
>Logan Paul is really good
lol no and no

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 23:44:19 No.7852279 Report

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>>7852110
Call me back when he has a decent schedule and doesn't wrestle once in a blue moon, if you have two months to prepare for a single slow paced match then no shit you are probably doing fine, what makes a wrestler a wrestler is perseverance and consistency not movez.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 23:47:12 No.7852311 Report

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>>7852257
Cope, tranny

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 23:48:31 No.7852335 Report

Quoted By: >>7853464

>>7852135
only 2 people right now understand wrestling. jim cornette and jeff jarrett

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 23:51:57 No.7852379 Report

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The Paul brothers gained their fame by emotionally manipulating tweens. Your average wrestler coming up for the last 20 years had to appeal to smarks to get bookings, and smarks like movez and hate being made to feel anything.

Wrestling is so fucked beyond repair it’s actually a detriment to not start your career with the WWE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 23:53:46 No.7852404 Report

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>>7851209
He got jumped the entire United States Marine Corps and the ghost of Chesty Puller himself

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2022 23:56:48 No.7852450 Report

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That match had ZERO psychology and exposes 'E drones as subhuman with IQ of trained seals

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Anonymous Sun 06 Nov 2022 00:19:40 No.7852721 Report

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>>7850324
>I also wonder if his matches have been great so far because he gets plenty of time to rehearse and train for them.
That's pretty much it. Same reason the NXT Takeovers were always great. Choreographing and rehearsing every detail of a match for weeks or months obviously isn't the norm in pro wrestling. Experienced wrestlers can just talk backstage for a few minutes and go out and instinctively understand what they're supposed to do and how to do it.

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Anonymous Sun 06 Nov 2022 01:18:55 No.7853420 Report

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Wrestling was always easy.

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Anonymous Sun 06 Nov 2022 01:20:34 No.7853442 Report

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>>7850102
It’s so easy his leg exploded and he’s out for a year

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Anonymous Sun 06 Nov 2022 01:23:38 No.7853464 Report

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>>7852335
I'd even argue Rick Rubin. Watched some old smokey mountain wrestling and it was surprisingly based. I know Corny ran that but he worked closely with Rubin's vision for old memphis, territory style.

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Anonymous Sun 06 Nov 2022 01:44:59 No.7853667 Report

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>>7851209
It was the Navy Seals copy-pasta guy using the entire arsenal .

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Anonymous Sun 06 Nov 2022 03:17:07 No.7854397 Report

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>>7850130
You are absolutely delusional

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