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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 06:42:17 No.7926925 View View Reply Original Report

This is actually a really interesting.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 06:44:40 No.7926939 Report

Quoted By: >>7928136 >>7928655

>workrate doesn't draw
smarks finally catching up

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 06:45:18 No.7926942 Report

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>>7926925
>Caring what Jim Valley thinks
SPOTTED THE BABA BOOEY!!! IF YOU LIKE JIM SO MUCH, WHY DON'T YOU GET ALL THE ILLNESSES HE HAS?!!?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 06:45:27 No.7926943 Report

Quoted By: >>7928183

>>7926925
It's always been like this. The work rate IWC are a very small part of the audience. Catering to them is the problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 06:46:18 No.7926949 Report

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sounds like it should have been written in 1996. nobody has cared about just the matches for like 30 years at least

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 06:46:54 No.7926951 Report

Quoted By: >>7926966

>>7926925
It's on at a shitty time and is taped that's why nobody watches Rampage, how many times do we need to discuss this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 06:48:13 No.7926962 Report

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>>7926925
>No one watches rampage, this means no one wants to see good matches, I am a journalist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 06:48:29 No.7926966 Report

Quoted By: >>7926972 >>7926981

>>7926951
it's shit and a waste of time to watch regardless of when it airs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 06:49:58 No.7926971 Report

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The promise of a "good match" has rarely if ever been what draws people to watch wrestling.
It's no secret that the "best matches" have a good story leading up to them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 06:50:07 No.7926972 Report

Quoted By:

>>7926966
nah you are

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 06:52:01 No.7926981 Report

Quoted By:

>>7926966
Only if you don't like AEW, which if you don't then you shouldn't be watching anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 06:54:08 No.7926989 Report

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>>7926925
It's a balanced analysis at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 07:04:56 No.7927045 Report

Quoted By:

>>7926925
>today's wresting fans want antismark boilerplate
stopped reading there

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 07:09:52 No.7927064 Report

Quoted By: >>7929769

>>7926925
Rampage is poorly-booked garbage. If it wasn't total dogshit, people would watch it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 07:10:16 No.7927065 Report

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>>7926925
Why don't the fucking PLEBS want to watch the FANTASTIC 5 star bouts on AEW Rampage every week such as Joey Garcia vs Ricky Cash for the TBT Championship?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 07:14:52 No.7927087 Report

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You can always have both, Stevie Richards and Raven proved that on Heat and made it must watch tv even though it was WWE's C-tier show at the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 07:19:39 No.7927103 Report

Quoted By: >>7927967

>>7926925
I will never understand people who defend randomly booked matches because "holy shit that is gonna be some good wrestling", yeah I don't give a fuck about good wrestling, I want things to have meaning, a story, something worth tuning in for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 12:09:43 No.7927967 Report

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>>7927103
It's not usually even good wrestling, it's just move spam. All the other shit he listed isn't what people want either, the guy has been watching while also working for F4W for how long? He doesn't realizw that characters and storylines are the most important thing? He thinks they want MORE table spots, heel turns and debuts? Is he fucking stupid, or what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 12:21:48 No.7928013 Report

Quoted By: >>7928067

>>7926925
>Debuts
>Surprise returns

No, we don't as evident by the crowd apathy for Sarah Logan, Cole Karter, Mia Yum, Jeff Jarrett, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 12:41:44 No.7928067 Report

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>>7928013
Karter was neither.

>Jarrett didn't get heat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 12:46:26 No.7928081 Report

Quoted By: >>7928146

For one, it's not just about good matches. It's about good, compelling matches featuring wrestlers you care about. Second, it's not like Rampage is an amazing workrate show. Not now. Look at some of the recent cards. Here's the most recent one:
>Brian Cage vs Dante Martin
>Rush vs Bandido
>Nyla Rose vs Kayla Sparks
>Orange Cassidy vs Lee Johnson
Most of those matches were totally fine, but they don't stand out. Rush vs Bandido could be an amazing match on a PPV, but as an 8:45 minute TV match, it's not anything special.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 12:47:01 No.7928085 Report

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>>7926925
wrestling is super easy and simple

You are trying to invent something already invented 100 years ago

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 12:58:52 No.7928136 Report

Quoted By:

>>7926939
Bizased

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 13:00:38 No.7928139 Report

Quoted By:

>>7926925
I'd probably be more inclined to watch Rampage if it wasn't on at 10 PM on Friday nights

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 13:04:02 No.7928145 Report

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AEW is floundering. They had a lot of potential with the initial Inner Circle stuff, but since it became NXT 1.5 I haven’t tuned in. It’s almost as if WWE released the likes of Cole, Lee, & Black on purpose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 13:04:56 No.7928146 Report

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>>7928081
At least 3 out of these 4 matches had stakes and the other one advanced a storyline that's leading into a title match at a major PPV.

That's more effort than usually put into Rampage. The 6 months before that was just random matches with 0 stakes and consequences involving either unsigned, or un-over talent nobody cares about in predictable uneventful matches mostly against upper midcarders.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 13:19:36 No.7928183 Report

Quoted By: >>7928484 >>7928658 >>7928813

>>7926943

These were the same people spamming "push the cruisers" online back in 1998.

There is absolutely no character development in AEW. What is Kenny's character - A heavily autistic 60 year old man in San Jose gave my matches unusually high star ratings when I was in Japan?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 13:27:31 No.7928216 Report

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>>7926925
it's skippable because of the time its on, most of the time I'm sleeping

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 14:19:33 No.7928479 Report

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>debuts, surprise returns, incredible spots or sequences

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 14:21:58 No.7928484 Report

Quoted By: >>7928585

>>7928183
>Nods head at you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 14:23:54 No.7928493 Report

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>>7926925
The first rampage was good with Omega and Christian. The problem is that Tony forgot you need to actually book compelling cards. Look at the last 6 Rampage cards and I bet the average anon could predict the winners for 90% of the matches. When the winner is super obvious, it kills any incentive to watch or give a shit. Also not being live hurts it.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 14:37:55 No.7928555 Report

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>>7926925
I used to tune in to every Dynamite and Rampage but I got really tired of it because every fucking AEW match is marketed as being ""good"" and le epic fight forever. Nothing stands out. I don't weekly wrestling for this reason, AEW or WWE, there's too much fucking wrestling. I also watch a lot of different promotions, but it's spaced out amongst big shows and ppvs, or I might check out something I hear was MOTY. Saves me from burning out on this semen slurping sport.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 14:42:35 No.7928585 Report

Quoted By:

>>7928484
>storytelling

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 14:53:05 No.7928634 Report

Quoted By: >>7928671 >>7928679

Ultimate Warrior was the shits and Hulk Hogan wasn't great in the ring but had amazing ring psychology. These two put on an amazing spectacle. Literally no one but smarks care about how great a match is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 14:56:56 No.7928655 Report

Quoted By:

>>7926939
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 14:57:11 No.7928658 Report

Quoted By:

>>7928183
>What is Kenny's character
The Best Bout Machine. The guy who is so fucking good he can wrestle a blow-up doll and make it exciting. He's like Kurt Angle in that he's comfortable being a goof because when the bell rings he stops acting like an ass and gets serious.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 15:00:05 No.7928671 Report

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>>7928634
Hogan and Andre was a spectacle as well and The Jew gave it minus three stars. why? not enough spots. never mind that Hogan and Andre were working around Andre's crippling back injury or that they invented a match that was that good and relied on exactly one back bump for the duration. no, that's not impressive, and 93,000 hulkamaniacs buzzing and leaving their feet when Hogan finally slammed Andre wasn't a spectacle either. what a ho-hum match according to The Jew.

Meltzer sucks and so does his idea of what good wrestling is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 15:01:33 No.7928679 Report

Quoted By:

>>7928634
Hulk Hogan was great in the ring, the best ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 15:25:40 No.7928813 Report

Quoted By:

>>7928183
Need a QR?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 15:33:13 No.7928863 Report

Quoted By: >>7928959

It isn't that good wrestling doesn't draw, it's just that there is a limit to this shit. Think about how much product the two major companies put out. Forget TNA, NWA, MLW, Jap companies, Indie promotions, bla bla bla, if you want to keep up with that shit too. I only keep up with two companies equating to about four hours a week usually and that feels like a chore sometimes. I feel most people who watch AEW also watch WWE, so imagine it being a Friday night and instead of doing anything else with your evening Tony is asking you to watch his C Show, which represents probably your fucking twelfth hour or so of wrestling this week. No wonder nobody watches.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 15:48:02 No.7928937 Report

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If it was 90mins it would actually feel more important. The fact that its an hour just tells people that not much will happen and it'll only kill an hour of time, not worth going out of your way for

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 15:53:00 No.7928959 Report

Quoted By:

>>7928863
>I feel most people who watch AEW also watch WWE

Evidence indicates otherwise. Nobody watches Rampage live.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 15:54:54 No.7928964 Report

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>>7926925
Lmao how clueless you need to be that it's somehow a big revelation that only niche portion of hardcore fans want to watch fake fights for no rhyme or reason to be invested

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 15:55:19 No.7928968 Report

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>Match nobody wants to watch because they are boring as shit = good match
Smarks are fucking retarded and need to be mass moonsaulted into a woodchipper

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 15:55:35 No.7928971 Report

Quoted By:

>>7926925
Vince is RIGHT
>then
>now
>FOREVER

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 15:59:58 No.7928998 Report

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>Rampage
>Good matches

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 16:00:25 No.7928999 Report

Quoted By:

>>7926925
Weekly shows = overexposure and less people care. Plus, all the promos in AEW suck. It’s very bush league, especially MJF and Yuta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 16:04:13 No.7929024 Report

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>>7926925
Rampage is an afterthought, if it had Wardlow defending the title every week or something I'd try to watch it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 17:44:39 No.7929753 Report

Quoted By:

>>7926925
kek

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2022 17:46:19 No.7929769 Report

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>>7927064
kid you have no clue what booking is, let alone good booking

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