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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 15:18:21 No.7956072 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>7956088 >>7956139 >>7956162 >>7956375 >>7956411 >>7956478 >>7956894 >>7956968 >>7957632 >>7959281 >>7959588

>PPV's are free on peacock, so it doesn't do any buys
>Tickets are mostly free, so it doesn't make a worthwhile gate
Not even joking, this shit loses more money than the pre-pandemic house shows

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 15:21:31 No.7956088 Report

Quoted By: >>7956104 >>7956171

>>7956072
I'll never watch NXT. It only exists to kill off the last of the indies. Those little feds don't pose any threat to WWE, so it just seems like a malicious asshole thing to do. Raw and Smackdown are good but this shit is a waste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 15:25:12 No.7956104 Report

Quoted By: >>7956115

>>7956088
>indies
Can't wait to see yfw NXT Japan kills NJPW. Remember, it's a marathon - not a sprint.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 15:27:32 No.7956115 Report

Quoted By: >>7956119

>>7956104
I realize you're just trolling, but seriously, why would you want to see one company monopolize the entire business?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 15:28:09 No.7956119 Report

Quoted By: >>7956126 >>7956164

>>7956115
I love WWE and want to see it succeed. I don't care about indie wrestling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 15:29:46 No.7956126 Report

Quoted By: >>7957433

>>7956119
I like WWE too, and they've already succeeded more than any other wrestling company in history. Why not just leave the indies their little piece of the pie? They provide variety and an alternative for those who aren't satisfied with either of the big two.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 15:31:53 No.7956139 Report

Quoted By: >>7956165 >>7956343

>>7956072
It’s a loss leader because it’s a developmental brand with the aim of producing moneymakers for its main shows. Just look at all the talent it has produced like Baron Corbin and Tyler Breeze.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 15:37:41 No.7956162 Report

Quoted By: >>7956168 >>7959206

>>7956072
>PPV's are free on peacock, so it doesn't do any buys
Are WWE's events even on traditional PPV anymore? Isn't that why they started calling them Premium Live Events?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 15:37:53 No.7956164 Report

Quoted By: >>7956170

>>7956119
>I don't care about indie wrestling
And yet 70% of the roster are made up of guys that wrestled on the indies for 10+ years before going to WWE

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 15:38:05 No.7956165 Report

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>>7956139
these days its just a ego outlet for paul and shawn

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 15:38:54 No.7956168 Report

Quoted By: >>7956355 >>7960875

>>7956162
you can still buy WWE PPV's through cable but they do so small buy rates that they're not even mentioned

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 15:39:12 No.7956170 Report

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>>7956164
that's what I'm saying, the indies have their place and there is no reason to change that. They give new talent a place to grow and develop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 15:39:17 No.7956171 Report

Quoted By: >>7956254 >>7956273

>>7956088
>It only exists to kill off the last of the indies
ironically that's what AEW did

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 15:54:37 No.7956254 Report

Quoted By:

>>7956171
Nah, AEW isn't even capable of putting NXT out of business. They will never be important in any way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 15:56:43 No.7956263 Report

Quoted By:

Peacock is free too for alot of people.
My cable company gives me that crap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 15:58:26 No.7956273 Report

Quoted By:

>>7956171
>ironically that's what AEW did
WWE killed the majority of the indies by signing every wrestler there was. This was before AEW even had a TV deal and WWE had like 350+ guys signed

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 16:09:14 No.7956343 Report

Quoted By: >>7956352

>>7956139
>Seth
>Roman
>Becky
>Rhea
>Bianca
>Riddle
>Sami
>Bayley
>Gable
NXT has already shown proof of concept, it’s a pretty good system so far

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 16:10:28 No.7956352 Report

Quoted By: >>7956365

>>7956343
Seth, Riddle, Sami and Gable are not products of the PC

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 16:10:40 No.7956355 Report

Quoted By:

>>7956168
I mean, ever since they introduced WWE Network, it's been kind of pointless to buy the PPVs. Of course the PPVs have low buy rates. WWE Network used to cost $9.99 (idk how much Peacock costs), the average PPV was like $50, bigger shows were like $60-$70. You could buy a whole year of WWE Network for the cost of one PPV.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 16:11:48 No.7956365 Report

Quoted By:

>>7956352
Agree to disagree. Have a nice day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 16:13:53 No.7956375 Report

Quoted By: >>7956739

>>7956072
They got a TV deal with USA you stupid mark. And it's most likely bigger than the AEW deal with turner.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 16:19:03 No.7956411 Report

Quoted By: >>7956634

>>7956072

It’s called content creation you fucking boomer

If WWE cared how much money it made they’d do all things you said. But they don’t. They just want more content.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 16:26:57 No.7956478 Report

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>>7956072
>don't sell tickets to TV tapings so you make a deal with a local university to have their broadcasting students gain on-the-job experience by handling your production
>don't sell PPVs so only air your show on your exclusive paid streaming service as a bonus incentive to subscribers
>do small tours around Florida to give your newbies reps to work their shit out
NXT was never meant to make money, which is why the original vision went to great lengths to mitigate costs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 16:49:36 No.7956634 Report

Quoted By: >>7956714

>>7956411
>content creation

This era is already dying you soulless consoomer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 17:00:15 No.7956714 Report

Quoted By: >>7956741

>>7956634

Source: your ass

WWE needs more content to keep the uber fans happy and buying shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 17:05:24 No.7956739 Report

Quoted By: >>7956881

>>7956375
NXT's TV deal is $30m a year

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 17:05:37 No.7956741 Report

Quoted By: >>7956841

>>7956714
Absolute bullshit. WWE produces 5 hours of content per week with Raw and Smackdown, and there's lots of other WWE content on Youtube and Peacock. They aren't starved for content. Also there's a huge problem with what you're saying: Most of the people who watch Raw and Smackdown are not watching NXT, otherwise their viewership/profits would be much better. They're just trying to create an in-house indy fed, which is both fake and gay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 17:23:20 No.7956841 Report

Quoted By: >>7956867

>>7956741
>trying to create an in-house indy fed
Is this really what you believe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 17:27:32 No.7956867 Report

Quoted By: >>7956881

>>7956841
why the fuck else would they do it?
>Doesn't make money
>Most WWE fans don't even watch it
>Creates a weak point that competition can exploit
They're trying to have something like an in-house indy fed so that they can develop talent from scratch. The problem is that these NXT talents are tied to the company from the very start. An actual indy worker, on the other hand, might be more expensive/difficult because he can always go back to wherever he was before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 17:30:22 No.7956881 Report

Quoted By: >>7956885

>>7956867
>Doesn't make money
see >>7956739

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 17:31:50 No.7956885 Report

Quoted By: >>7956916 >>7957611

>>7956881
That's far less than their expenses. They are spending more than they make. NXT is a money pit.
https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2019/05/news-on-if-wwe-nxt-is-actually-profitable-653979/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 17:33:32 No.7956894 Report

Quoted By: >>7956944

>>7956072
the prepandemic house shows were based. unbelievable seeing nakamura at my local american legion

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 17:35:11 No.7956905 Report

Quoted By:

It shouldn’t be readily available. It defeats the whole purpose of a developmental brand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 17:36:31 No.7956916 Report

Quoted By: >>7956940

>>7956885
>May 2019
>3 years old dirtsheet article
I’m not buying it, mark.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 17:40:02 No.7956936 Report

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lets be real guys there are prob a myriad of jews within wwe that determined this to be their most profitable set of action

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 17:40:22 No.7956940 Report

Quoted By: >>7956954 >>7957611

>>7956916
that just proves that it's never been profitable.
https://www.sportskeeda.com/wwe/wwe-rumors-nxt-reportedly-not-working-at-a-profit
But if you want to prove me wrong, show me some positive profit figures. You have seen some of those, right? Because otherwise you have no basis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 17:41:14 No.7956944 Report

Quoted By: >>7956950

>>7956894

This actually happened? Thats pretty cool. I’d rather go to a live NXT show than Raw or Smackdown. It cost about $500+ in my area for one ticket especially when you account for food, drink, parking and merch.

Although I’d rather see NXT 1.0 live than 2.0

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 17:42:07 No.7956950 Report

Quoted By:

>>7956944
they'll probably let you in for a hot dog

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 17:42:19 No.7956954 Report

Quoted By:

>>7956940

Just because it’s not profitable in one hard area doesn’t mean it doesn’t spill over into soft areas that aren’t easily defined.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 17:44:14 No.7956968 Report

Quoted By:

>>7956072
PPV's are still sold in almost all countries, even USA despite Peacock. NXT also gets money from the tv deal, merch sales, sponsors and collaborations. Other than that there is establishing talent to a portion of their audience in anticipation for the main roster debut.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 18:37:13 No.7957433 Report

Quoted By: >>7957650

>>7956126
NXTs everywhere will be run better than shitty indie shows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 18:55:47 No.7957611 Report

Quoted By: >>7957641

>>7956885
>>7956940
>wrestlinginc
>sportskeeda
this is beyond pathetic

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 18:57:05 No.7957629 Report

Quoted By: >>7958341

bron breakker alone will recoup the costs

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 18:57:14 No.7957632 Report

Quoted By: >>7957659

>>7956072
Still Better Then AEWs Main Show

AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 18:58:22 No.7957641 Report

Quoted By: >>7957675

>>7957611
ok, give us some better sources and show that NXT is making money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 18:59:23 No.7957650 Report

Quoted By:

>>7957433
Even if we assume that to be true, it's still not a good thing for one company to control the entire business. That leads to stagnation and eventual collapse.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 19:00:38 No.7957659 Report

Quoted By:

>>7957632
>Still Better Then AEWs Main Show
>AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 19:02:18 No.7957675 Report

Quoted By: >>7959386

>>7957641
Prove they aren’t by using their financial records. You’re the one prosecuting nxt for not being profitable. Let me know if you have trouble finding them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 20:29:59 No.7958341 Report

Quoted By:

>>7957629
cringe, breakker is a generic meathead manlet and will never become wwe champion

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 22:17:38 No.7959206 Report

Quoted By: >>7959231

>>7956162
I disagree with you saying that

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 22:20:03 No.7959231 Report

Quoted By:

>>7959206
WWE doesn't main the Pay-Per-View model anymore though, so he was correct

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 22:24:19 No.7959281 Report

Quoted By: >>7959619

>>7956072
the tv/streaming deal is where the money comes from idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 22:35:47 No.7959379 Report

Quoted By:

It’s a developmental program. Most companies don’t make any money off of their employees while they are still in training.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 22:36:46 No.7959386 Report

Quoted By: >>7959440

>>7957675
No fuck you, show some sources or go eat shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 22:41:41 No.7959440 Report

Quoted By: >>7959562

>>7959386
>couldn’t find proof
Concession accepted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:00:14 No.7959562 Report

Quoted By:

>>7959440
I already showed at least some kind of source. You show none and claim victory? Yeah eat shit faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:05:30 No.7959588 Report

Quoted By: >>7959646

>>7956072
Didn't they open up an arena for stand and deliver, couldn't sell 50% of it and gave up touring? Even old NXT sold out arenas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:10:41 No.7959619 Report

Quoted By:

>>7959281
it's not enough to cover the costs of weekly TV/contracts

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:15:28 No.7959646 Report

Quoted By:

>>7959588
they're doing stand and deliver again this year and have been running house shows again

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 01:26:06 No.7960875 Report

Quoted By:

>>7956168
You make excellent sense of your opinion

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