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>“[Johnny Gargano has] done some great things for somebody that nobody expected anything from. A lot of these guys, it’s a bragging right. Ten years, I’ve been wrestling for 15 years. Why is that a bragging right? I made a phone call, and the WWE brought me in for a tryout and signed me within the week. That’s how it works. I don’t need to go work for a hot dog and popcorn in your local gymnasium. That’s not what I do. It’s not a bragging right for me to go, ‘Ah, I drove around in my buddy’s Honda Civic for six hours to go to this show and then drive 12 hours to this show and the car broke down and we ran out of gas, and we didn’t money to eat. That’s not something you brag about.” >“These guys come in and that’s part of their story. They’re giving hope to hope to people who sit in the audience and go, ‘Ah, I wanna be Johnny Gargano.’ How many little kids see that? Because they have no hope, they have no goals, they have no dreams, and they wanna see a guy like that and they go, ‘Oh, man, if this little guy or Kevin Owens, this guy, I relate to him. We’re similar, we do the same things, we like the same things. I can become a WWE Superstar.’ No, you can’t. Look, this job is not for everybody. My mailman is a nice guy. This job is not for him. This is for elite level athletes, world renowned competitors, and guys when you walk into a room, they look at somebody like me and they go, ‘That guy is somebody.’ If they’ve never watched WWE before, they go, man, look at that watch, look at the diamonds that he’s wearing, look at that suit. That guy is somebody important, whether they’ve seen me or not. You walk into a room with Johnny, with Kevin, with AJ Styles, and you’re just like, oh man, there’s some people in the room hanging out. I saw 500 guys like that at the mall today. There’s a difference.”
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>>7966417 Maybe Corbin would be a little better on the mic and in the ring if he spent some time on the indies.
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Lmao nobody in the history of the universe has said that Baron Corbin is somebody.
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>>7966417 He's in character
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>>7966430 Ah yes indie guys are well known for their mic skills
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>>7966470 also he is mostly right
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>>7966417 based. he's not wrong.
AJ, fat Kev and Gargano are vanilla dimes repellent shitters. Bring back Headturners and the 'E might stop plummeting.
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>>7966470 Don't tell all the people who are going to seethe in this thread, on Woodit and on Twitter
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>>7966430 >indie guys good on the mic loooool
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>>7966476 Most of the best wrestlers started as indy workers.
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>>7966511 Nice samefag, you missed the point of that statement entirely. Indy feds give new guys a chance to develop in a place where not many are watching. If Corbin had done that, he would have benefitted from it immensely.
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>>7966517 Only Seff and Brian come to mind. The rest have huge holes in their game.
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>>7966526 sure he would that’s why all indie guys that transition to wwe end up great on the mic. yeah that happens all the time. dumb fuck
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>>7966550 He's ignoring the existence of the PC / NXT and the fact that most indie guys have shit habits or attitudes due to hivemind atmospheres, and that most of the guys who made it all worked with Cornette, Heyman, or the upper ranks of NJPW.
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Have to give Corbin credit for being able to do this gimmick without coming off as seething and having to apologize like Braun
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>>7966417 Kek, I want Corbin and Strowman heel team now.
Imagine these two shitting on flippy shitters and indie wrestlers all day.
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>>7966417 I shoot hope this faggot suffers a career or potentially life threatening injury
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>>7966535 >>7966550 Steve Austin started his career working indies in Texas and Memphis. FACT.
Roddy Piper started his career working indies in Canada. FACT.
Hulk Hogan made his debut working for an indie fed in Florida. FACT.
Terry Funk spent most of his early career as a territory wrestler. FACT.
>Sting and the Ultimate Warrior started as an indy tag team in California. FACT. And I could go on for pages and pages. Yes, there are guys like Flair or the Rock who are able to to straight to the big leagues, but most of the truly great ones learned and perfected their craft on the indy circuit. Sorry if some of you can't appreciate wrestling without fucking holograms and $20,000 worth of pyrotechnics.
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>>7966417 >“These guys come in and that’s part of their story. They’re giving hope to hope to people who sit in the audience and go, ‘Ah, I wanna be Johnny Gargano. and this is why we need to get rid of them. they give people who should never be wrestlers the belief they can be wrestlers, and then they get booked and we are stuck with a roster who look like they work at a waffle house.
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>>7966669 well said. Braun is a drooling mongoloid and comes off like a dumb ape whenever he tries to dunk on flippy midgets. Corbin lays out his point and even if you hate his guts you know deep down it's true. Same as when Randy does it
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>>7966764 Indies are not the same as the territories. FACT.
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>>7967033 yes they were. The old NWA was a collection of indy feds with the same governing body sanctioning titles.
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>>7966764 KEK corporatefags BTFO again
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>>7967033 >NOOOO YOU CAN'T INCLUDE THE MAJORITY OF PRE-WWE HISTORY! Cope, faggot.
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>>7966417 >“These guys come in and that’s part of their story. They’re giving hope to hope to people who sit in the audience and go, ‘Ah, I wanna be Johnny Gargano.’ How many little kids see that? Because they have no hope, they have no goals, they have no dreams, and they wanna see a guy like that and they go, ‘Oh, man, if this little guy or Kevin Owens, this guy, I relate to him. We’re similar, we do the same things, we like the same things. I can become a WWE Superstar.’ people actually read this and cannot see he's working?
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>>7966764 Those were territories. Territories drew big money before Vince bought all the competition and went all in on Hulkamania. The major indies of the early two thousands like RoH and CZW are effectively dead for the most part. Now there’s one super indy in GCW, and then smaller indies that moreso fit niches in certain subgenres whether it be deathmatch, comedy, lucha, or shoot style. Most of the popular indie feds right now focus on deathmatches because that’s what was running during the pandemic.
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>>7967136 If your idea of a "super indy" is fucking GCW, then you don't know what you're talking about.
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>>7967136 >the major indies of the early 2000's are effectively dead And just who do you think killed them?
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>>7966764 Territories are not indies. Please stop posting you stupid zoomer
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>>7967180 Not a fan of GCW, it just happens to be the biggest indy running today, it's pretty much the only American indy fed that get's covered by the dirtsheets.
>>7967136 A mix of things. Changes in ownership/booking, fans losing interest, the speaking out movement, bigger companies signing wrestlers to contracts, etc, etc. New indies have come up to replace the indies of before.
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>>7967213 LOL of course you would try that line of reasoning because it's your only way out. Yes the territories were independent feds, they all operated as independent members of the NWA. That lack of unity was exploited in order to destroy most of them. It's absolutely pathetic the way some people try to manipulate word meanings when they are proven wrong. You can't produce a GOAT-tier performer from the ground up in a heavily-regulated corporate environment where there is very little creative freedom and a lot less forgiveness if you fuck up.
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>>7967243 Who gives a fuck what memezer thinks? If you honestly value his opinion you need to rethink your life.
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>>7967258 What would you consider the modern super indy to be then?
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>>7967281 Impact and MLW are probably the closest that we have to such a thing right now.
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Based Corbdawg staying in character
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>>7967286 Impact's at least on cable that's why I didn't call it a super indy. I've barely seen anything about MLW personally.
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>>7967289 It's pretty normal for large indies to be on TV to some extent. ECW had a TV show even if it was on late, and USWA/SMW were both on TV at that time too. With MLW I would consider them to be a major indy just because their crowds and production values are way better than most other independent feds.
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>>7967289 To give you an idea, MLW's content is good enough that WWE decided to sabotage their TV deal.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alfredkonuwa/2022/01/11/mlw-files-antitrust-lawsuit-against-wwe-wwe-responds/?sh=71b6f3b41bef At the very least, their shit is 100,000x better than AEW and about a million times better than GCW.
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>>7967305 ECW was never an Indie, it always had major funding, same as SMW which was funded and closer to a territory. PWG is closest to a super Indie in format, although it is limited in shows. Next are AAA USA show and NJPW Strong, which aren't actual Indies but run a Super Indie show format.
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Lol flippy shitters, and fat fucks afraid of weights are seething in this thread, King Corbin indeed. Also Corbin would legit HEEM 99% of the business in an actual fight
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>>7967373 Corbin, your heel promos aren't bad but you need to work on your in-ring technique. I really want to like you but it's hard when most of your matches suck. Also if you and JBL are trying to be anti-woke, go all the way with it and stop being pussies.
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>>7966417 Based Wrestling God
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>>7967365 >ECW and SMW weren't indies just because they had some funding I'm sorry but that makes no sense. Every company has funding of some sort, especially in the startup phase.
>AAA and NJPW are like super indies I'm enjoying a nice blunt right now but I think you're higher than me. I hope that you're just trying to work me and that you don't really think that.
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>>7966696 Corbin and Strowman fighting off flippyshitters back to back in the center of the ring then burying them on the mic...kino
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>>7967287 Living the gimmick, brother
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>>7966460 You are absolutely delusional
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>>7967428 I asked Paul if I could put swastikas on my new gear and quote William Pierce and change my theme song to Kanye but he’s hesitant, because he’s trying to go after AEW’s demographic right now and thinks it would turn them away
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>>7969455 that's a shame, but I'm not surprised. Nobody's gonna let you do that, although I personally would love it. Maybe just try to go a little less extreme and do a southern gentleman type gimmick with the implication of being a confederate and/or a slave owner. I could see you pulling that off, assuming that this is actually Corbin.
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>>7966417 >cuts a rambling heatless heel promo >smarks will still be worked because he's worked-shooting on indieshitters Anonymous
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>>7967086 Except they weren't independent/"indie" they were under the governing body of the National Wrestling Alliance. The closest thing to an indie in those days would be what Cornette called "outlaw" or not under the umbrella of the NWA. Which is where Randy Savage got his start.
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Corbin is based
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>>7967086 Territories ran multiple shows are a week and produced weekly studio TV. That's not an indie.
An indie is something that typically puts on one show a month and can barely record promos for Twitter and YouTube.
Territories allowed wrestlers to learn fundamentals closer to WWE: crowd work, promos, characters, gimmicks, entrances, and most importantly:feuds and angles.
Territories are like WWE or AEW but restricted to one state
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ECW, SMW and Impact are basically the modern examples. TNA in the Aslyum era is vintage territory.
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>>7970645 *modern examples of territories
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>>7966417 corbs with a banger here
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>>7970560 You're arguing with a tranny hellbent on being right. He will never admit he's wrong.
