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While speaking on the latest edition of Renee Paquette’s podcast ‘The Sessions,‘ Kenny Omega talked about the brawl as much as he could. Omega stated that it was just Unnecessary’ but also a serious matter.>"There are things especially now when you’re in a multi-million billion dollar industry where there are sponsorships on the line, TV deal is on the line. It’s not like high school football." >"It’s not, you know, a little tiff that you might have with someone on your fellow, amateur wrestling team or whatever, or maybe someone held a submission too long in jiu-jitsu training. It’s not that – these things shouldn’t even be happening." >"It’s a shame that the general public and a lot of people aren’t ever going to know what went down, and how it could have been prevented or how it could have, you know, ended differently. That’s just sort of how things go again when it’s a big business operation." >"I don’t think anyone is happy that it happened, or is proud that it happened, or anything like that. I think across the board, everyone thinks that was a terrible situation that was unnecessary." >"It’s sort of like, ‘Hey, we know this thing happened. We heard this thing happened. It’s all over the dirt sheets. Why don’t we know what happened?’ And it’s like, we’re kind of sworn to secrecy." >"We can’t say anything, legally. So that was the poopy part where I was like, well, why doesn’t anyone tell us what’s happening? And then you’re forced to form your own opinion or to come up with your own theory as to what exactly happened.”"
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Imagine would could happen if the schizos that wrote fake dirtsheets put this effort towards something of redeeming societal value.
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TK really just slaps NDAs on everything and hopes the problem goes away.
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>>9139880 punk isnt getting fired. the elite got mauled and are on the way out of their own company. kwab
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>Kenny being so concerned about the fact we don’t know what happened when the whole thing started over someone leaking shit to the dirtsheets They can’t stop proving punk right
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>>9139942 >the whole thing started over someone leaking shit to the dirtsheets No, it didn't.
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>>9139923 What a piece of shit. Vince would never make people sign a NDA.
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>>9139980 That was pretty much punks entire scrum rant implying they leaked lies about him getting colt fired to dirtsheets
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>>9140084 Im pretty sure Fish leaked that shit
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Bros... he's practicing his PG speak He's actually going to WWE It's over
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>>9140084 Dave believes it 100% happened
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I’d have more faith Kenny doing a match with punk than some trios shit with the bucks vs punk for.
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Kenny shooting on the barbed wire death match explosion failure. Never heard this before the actual reason it failed.
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>>9139880 >and how it could have been prevented you retards not going to confront him would definitely prevented that
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>>9140202 >COME AND SPEAK TO ME >no not like that Anonymous
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>>9140202 Punk was injured. If they didn't do it that night they wouldn't ever be able to really.
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>>9140202 Damn, wonder who told them to come and see him, verbatim?
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Why are these wrestlers so scared of breaking the nda. Nothing will happen to them. Most ndas are non-enforceable and Tony is a pussy anyways. He wouldn’t do shit.
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>>9140231 >>9140211 Speak to me face to face does not mean "Knock down my door, hit my dog and corner me 3v1 in my room"
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>>9140211 Well that would have prevented it which Kenny seems to have wish he could have done
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>>9140251 The Bucks should've knocked the rest of his teeth out tbqh
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>>9140251 Yes the young bucks came into punks locker room by super kicking the door, screaming “SUPERKICK PARTAAAAAY” when it broke open, and then Kenny omega started doing gun fingerbangs while wearing his signature sunglasses.
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>>9140202 >IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, COME FIND ME >group who are the heads of the locker room bring head of human resources with them to ask him what the fuck he is doing Anonymous
>>9140084 This is what happened
>Tony Khan signs CM Punk >Colt Cabana's contract was about to expire and TK chose to not re-sign him >The YB think TK doesn't want to re-sign Colt because of Punk >TK says to the YB: "OK, I'm re-signing him but for ROH" >For the YB, it doesn't change anything and they're still blaming Punk >They create a rumor about TK not wanting to re-sign Colt because of Punk and leak it to the dirtsheets >Punk is pissed because he has nothing to do with it >Hangman also believes that Punk is responsible for Colt getting demoted to ROH and shoots on Punk >Brawl Out happens All TK had to do was to tell the truth to the YB in the first place. The truth is that he didn't want both Colt and Punk on the same roster because he was scared of what could happen if they have a fight or something. If the YB knew that Punk had nothing do to with the decision, they would've never leaked the rumor and everything would've been fine. TK is the only one responsible for this whole mess.
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>>9140281 I agree it's 100% TK's fault
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>>9140274 I still can't believe they gave Larry a shoot Meltzer Driver while Kenny had Punk locked down with a figure four leglock.
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>>9139880 >Poopy part God this fucking nerd is such a faggot. Read this in his stupid 12 year old Canadian voice. Remind me to buy CM Punk a case of beer if I ever see him
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>>9140300 >they gave Larry a shoot Meltzer Driver It was a BTE trigger
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>>9140281 I disagree the Bucks spread it to the sheets. They were probably contet with getting him the RoH gig. But there's a -lot- of other talent that don't have the easy direct line to TK that might have taken it otherwise.
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>>9140281 Not only that, but Punk's best friend (Ace Steele) had taken over the role previously occupied by Colt backstage. That didn't help with the optics of the situation either.
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>>9140172 It's obviously what happened. Colt was even replaced with his backstage job by Ace Steel.
Phil is a fucking snake. There's a 100% chance bringing him back'll end yet again in disaster.
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>>9139923 Didn't you read what Kenny said? This is not something that you just tell the story in a shoot podcast and then everyone laughs at the silly world of pro wrestling. This shit is serious. If word goes out that the details are worse than what we theorize, then it could reach the ears of sponsors or Warner. It could jeopardize the whole company. Tony might be a retard in many aspects, but NDAs on this stuff was the right move.
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>>9140241 NDAs are easy as fuck to enforce. Maybe the easiest laws ever to, even.
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>>9140335 It's still a demotion for Colt and I doubt the YB were happy about that. I'm sure they were wondering if things would've been different without Punk and they came to the conclusion that Colt's AEW contract would've been renewed without Punk.
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>>9140348 If I was TK I'd put him on ROH. He'd be able to get a TV deal if he did and let him go do Punkiverse over there. Hell, bring Jim in and wipe your hands of it for the most part and just collect the checks and filter any nonsense you don't wanna see.
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Kenny talking about coming back from surgery into AEW being like the guy in the GIF with the pizza boxes coming back to a room that's on fire kek. Says coming back to Punk-run AEW was eerie and tense and a horrible atmosphere.
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>>9140347 This is the reason why I don't buy for a second Punk had nothing to do with getting rid of Colt.
Really, Phil? It wasn't enough to dump the guy who was actually there for the company when times were their hardest while you were off violating ordinances at the Asian massage parlor or whatever? You just had to get him replaced in the job he got fired from with one of your toadies?
So no. I don't buy the Punk party line. Nor should anyone else. He has no credibility at all, and the story flies in the face of common sense.
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>>9139923 Welcome to the society we've created where billionaires can buy themselves out of trouble and even silence everybody involved so their reputation isn't damaged.
Meanwhile everybody cares more about arguing over trannies
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>>9139880 >the poopy part jesus christ kenny
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>>9140419 yikes, people with money have power? we need a heckin communism RIGHT now
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>>9139880 In the frigid autumn of 2022 the Young Bucks shit their pants
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>>9140363 >this shit is... LE SERIOUS Only makes them look like bigger clowns. Shouldn't expect more from manchildren playing pretend fighting
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>Punk is an indie guy that paves the way for the very generation of people that he is upset with and fights with Kino
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>>9140398 Punk would never agree to this. Nor would Discovery.
He's the highest-paid guy in the promotion, and the most famous guy in the company under fifty. Why should he be on a streaming-service-exclusive, pretaped show?
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>>9140398 The last time ROH gave Jim the book it had its most diehard loyalist fanbase in wrestling pelt the shows with garbage.
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>>9140457 Why would you need streaming / pretape?
Send some other guys there too. FTR, Miro, Andrade, HoB.
If the talent is there, they'll get live TV. They can spare it.
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>>9140419 You don't need to be a billionaire, nor even a millionaire, to enforce an NDA.
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>>9140281 reminder: the only source for the YB$ slandering Punk is Punk.
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>>9140393 Sure, but they're business guys, always have been. Militant about making money.
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>>9140482 Phil openly admitted to politicking in WWE. Most wrestlers with clout do it, especially "locker room leaders". Roman got a bunch of guys fired, for example.
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>>9140415 Wouldn't surprise me. Didn't Punk imply that his dog Larry lost his teeth because he was supposedly hit when the EVPs walked into his locker room and it turned out he had a pre-scheduled vet appointment anyway?
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>>9140474 Oh yeah just last weekend down the pub dave set up a legally binding NDA because there was a rumour he shagged Sally. Totally normal thing
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The gist of it really is that Tony is a massive CM Punk mark and gave him a proper employee position and lots of sway backstage.
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>>9140539 >down the pub >>9140492 headcanon
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>>9140512 Yeah. Punk is at least as bad as everything he ever railed against.
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>>9140470 They already have live TV. It's called "Wednesday Night Dynamite".
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I don’t care about FTR or The Bucks. Coming out of this interview what are the chances of Punk Omega. I like both and still want to see the match.
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>>9140415 >actually there for the company when times were their hardest kek what?
you mean when the company was at its hottest and coasting on the goodwill of smarks?
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>>9140692 He's talking about Cabana being there during the pandemic, far from when they were at their hottest, you halfwit.
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>>9140702 Here's your timestamp right here pal
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>>9140711 But I like The Bucks.
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>>9139923 >its ok when AEW does it Anonymous
>>9140380 Most of them are bs
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>An attack in the AEW lockerroom. Did Kenny mention which of them slapped their thighs?
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>>9140750 you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about
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>>9140251 With a head officer of the company present? What the fuck do you schizos think they were going to do? Beat punk down with superkicks like that scene in Goodfellas where they kill Billy Batts in the bar? All while a company head is present just clapping and cheering for them? That old faggot wasn’t ever in danger
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>>9140673 >Coming out of this interview what are the chances of Punk Omega I wouldn’t count on it considering that Kenny was trying to get out of his contract without the injury time being added
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>>9140251 >come see me doesn't mean come see me shut the fuck up, retard
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>>9141404 >Kenny was trying to get out of his contract >source: you want it to be true Anonymous
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>>9141404 >I wouldn’t count on it considering that Kenny was trying to get out of his contract without the injury time being added Really? That sucks
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It's a work. It's always been a work. Until I actually see the brawl, I'm not believing it happened. Punk is coming back soon. Finally, it's time for AEW: Civil War!
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>>9141266 What’s this pic supposed to prove?
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>>9140701 Yeah.
And though it made business sense to wait until fans were there to bring Punk in, doing that was always gonna breed resentment in the lockerroom, even if Punk hadn't also decided to get one of the boys who was actually there for the bad times fired and replaced with one of his toadies.
Every one of these problems has been Punk's fault.
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>>9141419 >no rebuttal Concession accepted
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>>9141386 That’s actually how it happened tho. The last thing Phil said before the brawl from his locked door was
>”NOW GO HOME AND GET YOUR FUCKING MELTZER STARS Anonymous
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>>9139880 the second he's able to punk will go on the first podcast that will have him and spill everything just like he did with WWE
phil is an insufferable faggot but I can't wait to hear this story
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>>9141479 MUDDA FUCKING MUTT!
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>>9140281 >they create a rumour no you stupid child. the fact colt cabana lost his backstage job and cm punk's trainer then gets given that backstage job created the rumour.
you don't need someone high up to create a rumour when shit's that obvious.
every jabrone there going to see those two events happen in quick succession and conclude the same thing.
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>>9139880 What kind of heat did Kenny and Punk even have? Wasn't Omega injured all those months before he came back? Seems like Punk was interacting more with the bucks
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>>9143219 As Kenny put it, he was gone for 8 months, and when he came back it was like someone burnt the place down. The entire atmosphere was completely different, everyone was on edge and tense
He never actually had any beef with punk, his friends did and he just stood beside them
Note that Kenny was the one punk talked to after the brawl
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>>9140281 this is likely what happened. everything else is just cope.
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>>9143219 According to meltzer it started with some incident between Hangman and Punk way before workers rights. No one knows what it was so it could be bull shit. This bucks drama with punk was after.
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>>9139980 It was literally the EVPs and their games room clique getting mad at punk because he commented that they don't work and sit around all day playing games. That's why they spread rumours about him to begin with. The reason the fight happened was Punk shooting on the dirtsheets for reporting rumours. So the rumours are the reason it happened. The other reason, of course, was the bucks walking into someone's personal dressing room and confronting him in front of civilians outside working hours without prior agreement to have a meeting - they are EVPs and can't follow basic processes.
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So Ace Steele defnitely pulled a gun or knife then right? What else could this be about?
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>>9140415 >the guy who was actually there for the company when times were their hardest the cope from diehard AEWtists is unreal. just how important do you think Colt fucking Cabana was? You're delusional if you think it matters whether he was there or not. He's a washup who got a charity job because Tony is a mark for old ROH.
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>>9140454 >LE MANCHILDREN IN PRETEND FIGHTING Learn how to run a business faggot. Even if this is pretend fighting, the business side of it is serious. Anything where money is involved will always be a serious matter, no matter how silly the product is.
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>>9143326 It's not about Colt. It's about Punk using his power to get guys who were actually there for the company during the hard times while he was off getting his dick rubbed by escorts fired just because it satisfies his ego.
It's a threat to the job security of everyone in the company. If an old grudge like that is still enough for him to get a guy fired and replaced with one of his toadies, it stands to reason he'd do something like it again. Hell, he did.
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>>9139880 >So that was the poopy part Kenny has been practicing censoring himself before moving on to the big leagues, I see. Smart man!
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>>9143266 Hangman probably refused Punk's advice about something
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>>9143697 Yea man those dimeless fucking faggots that couldnt draw if they had a box of crayons. Nick and Matt arent gonna spit roast you anon, theyre the fucking cancer killing that company
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>>9140363 I don't think it was more serious than Sid going Scissorman on Arn somehow, you can only tell that story because it's been 30 years and doesn't affect any current contracts or legal action.
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Who is a Bigger Beta Male CM Punk or Kenny Omega?
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>>9143790 I dunno, whats worse, grooming underage jap girls or fucking an indian boy?
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>>9143249 You can tell there was some plan to replace all the non-wwe guys and change the style of the place. They kept bringing in more and more wwe jobbers/midcarders who had no hope of drawing and were just going to use time that could go to the existing talent. Meanwhile, FTR bald's on twitter telling everyone to "trust the plan". Basically the original lockerroom were all elite guys, so there was an effort to clear them out or at least dilute them with ex-drones.
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>based kenny works this entire thread with 2 words unrivaled psychology
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>>9139923 >TK really just slaps NDAs on everything Unironically the best course of action
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>>9143958 no the whole dana white "yeah guys fight lel so what" approach is best to neutralise it as a story. talk about these ndas have kept this shit going for ages.
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>>9140482 Youre such a naïve blind faggot that it really makes me sad that alot of people are like this
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>>9140347 Steel was brought in because Colt was off playing the Brooklyn Brawler in the Rock's show. So Colt comes back and Tony has one too many producers. You can look at it and say Colt screwed Colt by taking time off
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>>9143787 It was a different era, and Sid and Arn were both drunk, high, worn down, jet-lagged, and sleep-deprived.
Punk was sober, in his hometown, and invited The Elite into his room mere minutes earlier.
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>>9144026 Even the prostitutes you hire won't buy that story, Phil.
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>>9144031 Alcohol and drug abuse does not make that story better for business.
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Punk will return the day All Access or whatever premieres and they'll run the tape that you know Brandon was filming
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>>9140363 :) calm down junior