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Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 12:53:02 No.9676966 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>9677019 >>9677094 >>9677309 >>9677551

There were some pretty bad parts of Paul's reign too, to be fair.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 12:55:51 No.9676989 Report

Quoted By: >>9676998 >>9677141 >>9677156 >>9679241

uh, sweetie? paul wasn't in control long enough to judge whether or not his choices were bad. short-term storytelling sets the stage for the true vision, but vince came back and wrecked everything he had going.

the only thing you could call him out on was bray wyatt, and not fair to judge because no one knew bray was going to be a complete faggot once he came back.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 12:56:54 No.9676998 Report

Quoted By: >>9677114

>>9676989
I really hope Vince gets pushed out by Endeavor or just gets sick or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 12:59:12 No.9677019 Report

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>>9676966
It was all fucking garbage, and the few good and actually over parts (The Bloodline for example) have absolutely nothing to do with him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 13:05:33 No.9677076 Report

Quoted By: >>9677090

mountain dew pitch black match sponsored by mountain dew was such classic wrestlecrap i can already imagine the fucking induction article if i close my eyes

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Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 13:08:00 No.9677090 Report

Quoted By: >>9677096

>>9677076
I didn't hate that match. The sponsorship was cringe but it didn't go all that long. It was just kind of whatever for me.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 13:08:46 No.9677094 Report

Quoted By: >>9677125

>>9676966
A lot of the folks he brought up/back didn't really get over.
>Hit Row
>Emma
>Kross
But the original Lumis debut when he was stalking Miz was dimes until it went on too long. Adam Pearce patrolling backstage with a SWAT team was pretty cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 13:08:49 No.9677096 Report

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>>9677090
Plus it looked like a neon bowling alley which was KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 13:11:27 No.9677114 Report

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>>9676998
keep coping, Paul

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Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 13:13:28 No.9677125 Report

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>>9677094
I can agree with that. I also liked Hit Row on NXT, but they really needed Swerve as a leader. They're good sidekicks.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 13:15:29 No.9677141 Report

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>>9676989
I will always call him out on bringing back Flop Dolla I did it from the second I heard he did it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 13:17:41 No.9677156 Report

Quoted By: >>9677167 >>9677172 >>9677201 >>9677551 >>9678904 >>9679363 >>9679555

>>9676989
HHH is responsible for
Bray/Uncle Howdy
Damage Ctrl
Gargano
Kross
Candice
Hit Row
Tegan Nox
Emma
Michin
Gallows & Anderson

the only ideas that i liked:
rehiring Braun (he's over with casuals)
rehiring Bronson (he got a clue)
rehiring Dexter (kino gimmick)
rehiring Chelsea Green (good diva style gimmick)
changing Max Dupri back to LA Night
changing Doudrop back to Piper Niven
changing Nikki ASH back to Nikki Cross
Wargames

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 13:19:30 No.9677167 Report

Quoted By: >>9677187 >>9677201

>>9677156
also i don't hate
>Tegan Nox
>Emma
>Michin
but they are not over with crowds and we havent been given a reason to care about them

He also scrapped the Elias/Ezekial stuff which was funny
And he scrapped the Boogz - Nakamura team which was over with crowds

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 13:20:23 No.9677172 Report

Quoted By: >>9677193 >>9677282 >>9677551

>>9677156
I liked the idea of Damage CTRL. It's just not worked for some reason, and now they've all been buried. It sucks because I love all three of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 13:22:53 No.9677187 Report

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>>9677167
Boogz was injured and only recently returned, and I think there's potential with the Boogz/Elias stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 13:23:26 No.9677193 Report

Quoted By: >>9677234

>>9677172
When they first formed, they were all over the show in way too many segments. Sometimes less is more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 13:24:09 No.9677201 Report

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>>9677156
>>9677167
pretty good non-cultish answer, I'd add kross to my not hate list, they started him off hot against drew and then cut his legs out with everything after, and gallows and anderson's stuff got thrown out when aj got injured but I wasn't minding them vs judgment day

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 13:28:25 No.9677234 Report

Quoted By: >>9677354

>>9677193
Yeah that makes sense. I also think Iyo was botching a lot of moves for a bit after she came back. She wasn't doing that on NXT so I don't know what the problem was. I hope Vince realizes what a talent she is and gives her a push.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 13:38:55 No.9677282 Report

Quoted By: >>9677329

>>9677172
>It's just not worked for some reason
Mostly because they're a trio/tag team and there's only been two consistent trio/tag teams in alexa, asuka & bianca and becky, lita & trish

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Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 13:42:26 No.9677309 Report

Quoted By: >>9677339

>>9676966
There were but, the shows always felt different somehow and it felt like the 2 or 3 hours flew by. PPVs always had just enough chaos without going overboard with dopey shit.
We've seen what Vince books like post 2020 and it isn't good. He had Cole saying "medical facility" already and I'm sure all of those terrible old gimmicks will creep their way back and lots of talent will be shit canned. I had hope for 9-10 months but, that's gone and the sooner the old man dies, the better. His family history and overall health tells me he has another 15 years in him, though.
Fuck it. I'm getting too old to wait for that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 13:44:15 No.9677329 Report

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>>9677282
Honestly they should just get rid of them women's tag titles if they have no tag teams. It was amazing to see the tag team showcase matches at Wrestlemania where all of the women's teams were singles competitors randomly grouped together, and the men's had three actual tag teams, and even Braun and Ricochet who were randomly put together a while ago ended up being a great tag team somehow.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 13:46:02 No.9677339 Report

Quoted By: >>9677369 >>9677379

>>9677309
I'm concerned too. I'm hoping that discussions are happening behind the scenes about what to do about Vince. I'm sure Endeavor is seeing how negative the response to Raw was, and they're aware of how frustrated the talent is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 13:48:27 No.9677354 Report

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>>9677234
Iyo got hurt in 2022 and was on the DL for while

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Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 13:50:26 No.9677369 Report

Quoted By: >>9677379 >>9677479

>>9677339
>I'm sure Endeavor is seeing how negative the response to Raw was, and they're aware of how frustrated the talent is.
lmao

have you seen how Endeavor handles negative publicity for UFC or Dana White

THEY
DO
NOT
GIVE
A
SHIT

The only thing that could happen is they recognize theres more bad sexual assault stuff with Vince that could come out and his "Executive Chairman" title is ceremonial only and Ari will really call the shots with Nick Khan

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 13:51:35 No.9677379 Report

Quoted By:

>>9677339
>>9677369
Endeavor wanted WWE for one big reason

they are going to sell UFC and WWE TV/PPV/streaming rights as a giant billion dollar bundle

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 13:53:18 No.9677398 Report

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Dexter is BASED.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 14:01:27 No.9677479 Report

Quoted By: >>9677553

>>9677369
Whatever scandals happen in UFC, it's still the place to be. If Vince is in charge there's a lot of talent that wants out, especially now that they've had a taste of what it's like without him. If talent is walking out, that's a problem and I'm sure they're aware.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 14:10:44 No.9677551 Report

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>>9677156
>rehiring Braun
and then doing nothing with him
>rehiring Bronson
dimeless shitter
>rehiring Dexter
and then burying him with a shitty miz feud and pairing him with gargano
>changing Doudrop back to Piper Niven
and then doing nothing with her
>changing Nikki ASH back to Nikki Cross
and then doing nothing with her
>Wargames
and then using it for some shitty forced feud

>>9676966
more like the other way around
the only good things under paul's reign were bloodline, JD/mysterio's stuff and maybe LA Knight although he was severely underutilized
raw is/was completely unwatchable

>>9677172
>It's just not worked for some reason
because those bitches are absolutely dimeless
another me no speak engrish gook, middle-aged bitch that can't wrestle and looks like a crack whore and Bayleno

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 14:10:52 No.9677553 Report

Quoted By: >>9677642

>>9677479
no one who matters is walking out because AEW won't be able to match their pay

The only ones who want to walk are low carders who are making developmental pay.
Grizzled Young Vets will be working tryouts on Dark in no time

any main roster star who leaves is easily replaceable with a PC full of talents and celebrity hires

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 14:19:10 No.9677642 Report

Quoted By: >>9678001

>>9677553
genuine question because I have no idea, what stars has the pc produced?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 14:58:09 No.9678001 Report

Quoted By: >>9678086

>>9677642
Bianca is the top of the list

like him or not, but he's over with the casuals and an attraction: Braun
Street Profits are a good tag team
latest class of champs (Bron, Carmelo, Roxanne, Jacy & Gigi) have real potential

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 15:07:24 No.9678086 Report

Quoted By: >>9678171

>>9678001
rok-c and gigi were known properties before nxt so I'd say they don't count, bron's valid and I don't know the backstory of the other 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 15:16:56 No.9678171 Report

Quoted By: >>9678206 >>9679577

>>9678086
>rok-c and gigi were known properties before nxt
known to who??

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Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 15:21:19 No.9678206 Report

Quoted By: >>9678275

>>9678171
people that watch stuff other than wwe

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 15:29:50 No.9678275 Report

Quoted By: >>9678329

>>9678206
a fraction of the general audience and those wrestlers still needed a lot of experience in a bigger live TV setting

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 15:34:47 No.9678329 Report

Quoted By: >>9678667

>>9678275
>a fraction of the general audience
I knew this cope was coming that's why I posted that picture specifically, ROH put their belt on her in recognition of her talent, anything the pc did was just polish

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 16:09:50 No.9678667 Report

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>>9678329
ROH has a minuscule audience and went out of business - most of Roxanne's time there was during the no-audience covid era too

ROH couldn't provide her with
live tv experience
large audience experience
national touring experience
basically non-existent PR opportunities
limited talent pool to work with

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 16:29:18 No.9678904 Report

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>>9677156
>Turning Dom heel
>Choosing rhea
>Gunther Vs sheamus
>Gunther Vs sheamus Vs drew
>Alpha academy actually mattering
>Theory not getting F5 every week
>His 6 months of the bloodline
>Ballas finn

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Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 16:59:31 No.9679241 Report

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>>9676989

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Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 17:08:56 No.9679363 Report

Quoted By:

>>9677156
Only faggots don’t like Bray Wyatt

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 17:22:15 No.9679555 Report

Quoted By: >>9679627 >>9679717

>>9677156
>Braun
Shitter
>Bronson
Fat shitter
>Dexter
Shitter
>Chelsea Green
Shitter
>LA Night
Dimws
>Piper Niven
Dimes
>Nikki Cross
Dimes
>Wargames
Cringe match

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 17:24:20 No.9679577 Report

Quoted By:

>>9678171
Priscilla Kelly was one of the most popular women on the Indies for years

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 17:30:03 No.9679627 Report

Quoted By:

>>9679555
Dexter is kino Kys

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 17:36:10 No.9679717 Report

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>>9679555
Very bizarre combination of opinions to have.

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