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Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:08:40 No.9855310 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>9855324 >>9855373 >>9855397 >>9855588 >>9855638 >>9855927 >>9856809 >>9856918 >>9857022

These were the ONLY north american matches that got 5 stars duing the 2000s

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:10:58 No.9855324 Report

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>>9855310
>haven't seen it but prolly should
>haven't seen it
>seen it, it is pretty good

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:16:52 No.9855373 Report

Quoted By: >>9855395

>>9855310
>dimeless matches nobody gave a fuck about
>5 Meltzer stars
Kek yeah that's about right. Has Meltzer ever given 5 stars to a match that was actually good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:19:16 No.9855395 Report

Quoted By: >>9855419

>>9855373
Sorry that fedshit isn't good you obese retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:19:22 No.9855397 Report

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>>9855310
I don't give a shit about Meltzerflakes but wasn't there an ROH literal who jap match that got 5 as well? Historically inaccurate kikesucker mark as expected

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:21:59 No.9855419 Report

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>>9855395
So I guess the answer is no, Meltzer has never in his life given 5 stars to a good match. That's what I expected.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:22:45 No.9855426 Report

Quoted By: >>9855434 >>9855484 >>9855516 >>9855644 >>9856798 >>9856911

It’s weird that within the industry, wrestlers generally respect each other and study each other, yet this isn’t the case for fans. Not even The Rock and Austin have that “fuck this literal who gook/bingo hall shit” mindset.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:23:38 No.9855432 Report

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Melzterfans are truly a new age of being an embarrassment to pro wrestling as a whole

Dave Melzter has never been nor will he ever be a REAL journalist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:24:55 No.9855434 Report

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>>9855426
E-drones are diehard Vince McMahon cultists who've been taught to hate wrestling and love sports entertainment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:26:29 No.9855446 Report

Quoted By: >>9855461 >>9855530

damn imagine Samoa Joe wasn't a fatass
he would probably be the Western GOAT

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:27:11 No.9855450 Report

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Whether or not you think there should be more or less 5 star matches in the 2000s than these, you have to admit that these are 3 pretty damn good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:27:34 No.9855455 Report

Quoted By: >>9855467

Danielson vs Nigel McGuinness is shoot the best series in the entirety of the 2000s

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:27:43 No.9855458 Report

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Edrones are a cancer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:28:04 No.9855461 Report

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>>9855446
He KWAB'd himself with the spot on the concrete to a self mark faggot in Sting who didn't put him over

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:29:04 No.9855467 Report

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>>9855455
Nah CM Punk vs Samoa Joe III was the best match of the trilogy and deserved 5 stars.

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Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:29:21 No.9855469 Report

Quoted By: >>9855518 >>9855644

You need to remember that Meltzer was trying and failing to switch over into being an MMA journalist. So he probably thought it would be bad for his brand to mark out over wrestling, or just wasn't watching as much as he use to.
You also left out the Dragon Gate six man from ROH, or as Dragon Gate fans called it at the time, an average Dragon Gate opener.
Also there are plenty of NOAH matches worth going out of your way to see before you watch a single Samoa Joe match.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:31:38 No.9855484 Report

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>>9855426
Wrestlers are generally stupid marks who can't see the big picture and have no idea how to draw dimes. That's why they need bookers to tell them what to do just like actors need directors.

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Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:36:45 No.9855516 Report

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>>9855426
These people think the young bucks are the best wrestlers in the world. Of course they have no respect for wrestling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:36:48 No.9855518 Report

Quoted By: >>9855529 >>9855533

>>9855469
From 2000-2011, Kenta Kobashi, CM Punk and Samoa Joe were the only wrestlers with at least 2 five star matches.
Chris Benoit had 3 4.75 star matches from January to June 2001 before he got hurt, and had one per year from 2002-04.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:38:30 No.9855529 Report

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>>9855518
Thanks for those statistics on some retarded faggot's opinion. Really useful stuff to base my taste on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:38:56 No.9855530 Report

Quoted By: >>9855543 >>9855648

>>9855446
Joe was highly regarded because he was a fatass. All these fat wrestlers trying to do flips are trying to emulate him

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:39:31 No.9855533 Report

Quoted By: >>9855542

>>9855518
If Nancy divorced Benoit in 2003 instead of getting back together with him and he just quietly committed suicide alone. How would people regard him now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:41:18 No.9855542 Report

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>>9855533
He'd be regarded as a legend taken before his time and head chairshots wouldn't have been banned

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:41:29 No.9855543 Report

Quoted By: >>9855559 >>9855578 >>9855579 >>9856764

>>9855530
Not really. Joe had a suicide dive but for the most part his moves were just a best of 90s Japan VHS tape people would have bought off RF video.
That's why it was so funny when NOAH tried to steal a mainevent with him.
Imagine if someone Japanese guy you never heard of came over and did all the popular Ruthless Aggression moves on Roman Reigns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:44:33 No.9855559 Report

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>>9855543
That would be hilarious

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:47:29 No.9855578 Report

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>>9855543
>someone Japanese guy you never heard of came over and did all the popular Ruthless Aggression moves on Roman Reigns
Holy dimes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:47:33 No.9855579 Report

Quoted By: >>9855600

>>9855543
>but for the most part his moves were just a best of 90s Japan VHS tape people would have bought off RF video.
I always hear this as a knock on Joe but it's precisely why I always liked him, kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:48:34 No.9855588 Report

Quoted By: >>9855607 >>9855665

>>9855310
That's also the only 5 star match in AJ's entire career

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:50:39 No.9855600 Report

Quoted By: >>9856960

>>9855579
>I always hear this as a knock on Joe but it's precisely why I always liked him, kek
I don't think it's knock, it just is what it is. Pretty much everyone in AEW is following the same path of only doing the smark approved moves, Joe just had a higher standard of how the overall match was going to be structured and performed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:52:07 No.9855607 Report

Quoted By: >>9855628 >>9855659

>>9855588
There's no way Meltzer didn't rate any of his matches against Tana, Okada, or Nakamura 5 stars. That was during his massive Japan kick

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:55:40 No.9855628 Report

Quoted By: >>9855665

>>9855607
He had 6 4.75 star matches during his NJPW run and no 5 star matches.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:56:55 No.9855638 Report

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>>9855310
kek gotta love the Joester baby

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:58:26 No.9855644 Report

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>>9855426
Austin is a wrestling autist who wanted to be Flair, his mindset is very different from the failed basketball players like Nash.

>>9855469
Meltzer never watched most of the Danielson/McGuinness matches. He seemed to love the Dragon Gate style and then never watched that either. It's funny because not rating any matches five stars at that time due to not even watching wrestling just made people respect his ratings even more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 05:58:41 No.9855648 Report

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>>9855530
Joe has never done a flip in his life

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 06:00:19 No.9855659 Report

Quoted By: >>9855695 >>9855705

>>9855607
>AJ vs Okada (Dontaku 2014)
3.75 stars
>AJ vs Okada and Elgin (War of the Worlds 2014)
4 stars
>AJ vs Okada (Return to Yokohama 2014)
4.5 stars
>AJ vs Okada (G1 2014)
4.5 stars
>AJ vs Tana (G1 2014)
4.25 stars
>AJ vs Tana (KOPW 2014)
4.5 stars
>AJ vs Tana (New Beginning 2015)
4 stars
>AJ vs Okada (Dominion 2015)
4.5 stars
>AJ vs Tana (G1 2015)
4.75 stars
>AJ vs Okada (KOPW 2015)
4.5 stars
>AJ vs Shinsuke (WK 10)
4.75 stars

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 06:01:38 No.9855665 Report

Quoted By: >>9855672

>>9855588
>>9855628
AJ/Suzuki G1 2014??

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 06:03:09 No.9855672 Report

Quoted By: >>9855679

>>9855665
4.75 stars

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 06:04:43 No.9855679 Report

Quoted By: >>9856982

>>9855672
Yeah sorry I misremembered. I think Meltzer rated it match of the year though or someone else did

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 06:07:17 No.9855695 Report

Quoted By: >>9855841

>>9855659
That's insane, I guess Meltzer doesn't care too much for AJ

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 06:10:16 No.9855705 Report

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>>9855659
Also his match with Ibushi at Invasion Attack 2015 was 4.75 stars

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 06:32:35 No.9855841 Report

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>>9855695
Yeah, Meltzer horribly underrated AJ's NJPW run. Not sure why.

I think every match of the AJ/Okada series aside from the very first one and the triple threat are 5 stars myself

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 06:48:43 No.9855927 Report

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>>9855310
And that's a good thing. The problem is he giving away too many stars to shitty matches and wrestlers in the last years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 10:05:22 No.9856764 Report

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>>9855543
>Imagine if someone Japanese guy you never heard of came over and did all the popular Ruthless Aggression moves
This should be Konosuke Takeshita's gimmick in the US

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Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 10:10:21 No.9856798 Report

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>>9855426
edrones are cultists who slurp up whatever sports entertainment slop the wwe slops into their troughs like the little droniE piggiEs they are. as most cults do, the wwe cult requires them to view all outsiders as the enemy. this is also why they turn on a wrestler the second the wrestler escapes their wwe cult even if they once really liked them

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 10:13:02 No.9856809 Report

Quoted By: >>9856960

>>9855310
wow samoa joe must have been one of the best wrestler of all time. What is the biggest gate he has ever drawn?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 10:34:47 No.9856911 Report

Quoted By: >>9856976

Based Joe

>>9855426
Austin worked Japan.

@9855516
cry more

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 10:36:30 No.9856918 Report

Quoted By:

>>9855310
>babbys first indy show

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 10:45:47 No.9856960 Report

Quoted By: >>9856976

>>9855600
>smark approved moves

Imagine being cringe enough to write this.

>>9856809
gms

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 10:48:38 No.9856976 Report

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>>9856911
>>9856960

Ojama, care to explain why you raped your 11 year old nephew?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 10:49:39 No.9856982 Report

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>>9855679
It was the WON match of the year in 2014.

The fact that it received less than 5 stars yet was match of the year demonstrates how much his rating scale has ridiculously blown out. That was probably the last year before he started going full retard and handing out 5 stars like candy, going against the grain of previously reserving that rating for matches that were really special. Since then, no WON match of the year has had fewer than 5 stars attached to it, and some have more than that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 10:58:39 No.9857022 Report

Quoted By:

>>9855310
Deservedly so

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