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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 20:19:29 No.9920870 View View Reply Original Report

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Go you guys think Shibata would have eventually won the IWGP Heavyweight title if the brain injury didn't happen?

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 20:20:30 No.9920879 Report

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Yes

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 20:21:55 No.9920894 Report

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>>9920870
Nah, he was a midcarder.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 20:25:49 No.9920931 Report

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>>9920870
Gedo fucking hated him

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 20:28:41 No.9920951 Report

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>>9920931
So did Tanahashi but now they're friends

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 20:29:57 No.9920961 Report

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>>9920870
I don't think so, no, but who knows. I think he was never trusted to be in that role ever since he left at the lowest point of NJPW to do MMA (I think that was the story).
He had to regain respect back but he was essentially a midcarder, yes. A guy to put the 3rd belt on and to be a wildcard to compete for the main title in B-PPVs.
The main argument you can make is that if Evil and Sanada (and to a lesser extend, Shingo) won it, then he could have as well during this period, but I'm not sure.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 20:31:20 No.9920968 Report

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>>9920870
even if it ended safely, that okada match would've boosted his popularity tremendously. so it's safe to say that he would've been booked to put others over. think ishii but with more IC title reigns.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 20:33:29 No.9920985 Report

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>>9920870
By now, yeah. If he kept going for sure. It really depends whether Gedo booked him into the ground or not, like Goto.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 20:35:05 No.9920996 Report

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>>9920870
No, he would have been like Ishii: stuck in NEVERland because he's too based for Gaydo.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 20:35:23 No.9921002 Report

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Didn't he get in trouble for getting caught fucking fans a little before that Okada match?

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 20:35:26 No.9921003 Report

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>>9920968
This. Also I miss the IC getting rid of it was retarded

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 20:38:31 No.9921035 Report

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>>9920870
GOAT look

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 20:40:25 No.9921056 Report

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>>9920951
>Tana hates Phil
Based

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 20:42:22 No.9921077 Report

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>>9921002
skank

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 20:43:24 No.9921087 Report

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>>9920870
He had the look and the skills, so maybe, it's a shame we will never see him in a real wrestling match again.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 20:43:58 No.9921093 Report

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>>9920870
Yes. Standards have plummeted since 2020.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 20:47:32 No.9921129 Report

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>>9921002
He was cheating on his wife with some chick and then dumped her so she posted all of their LINE chats and shit. Since this was just before his match with Okada NJPW basically ignored it and swept it under the rug, same way they ignored Honma beating his ex-wife when those accusations came out because it was during the Honmania push.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 20:50:15 No.9921161 Report

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He would have been the IC guy when they decided to move Naito to the HebiQ main event scene

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 21:09:02 No.9921346 Report

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Japanese cesaro

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 21:12:43 No.9921395 Report

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100%
The crowd were on their fucking knees, losing their shit over Shibata. He was 100% on the road to the belt.
Gedo eventually gave the belt to SANADA and you think he wouldn't have given it to Shibata?

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 21:20:23 No.9921464 Report

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>>9921129
>ignored Honma beating his ex-wife when those accusations came out
that was a Yakuza save

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 21:26:48 No.9921535 Report

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If fucking Sanada and Evil got it, there's no way Shibata wouldn't have at some point. Even if those two are "young".

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 21:31:31 No.9921589 Report

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>>9921535
disloyalty. even if management isn't particularly upset over it, giving shibata anything more than a late-career thank-you main belt reign sends a bad message to the rest of the roster, especially the younger guys. would've been one hell of a moment, but it won't be an easy "yes let's do it".

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 21:37:32 No.9921637 Report

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>>9920870
Would have been the true successor of Inoki but the bookers favored anime wrestling than real wrestling and that headbutt ruined any chances for a push that could have happened during the COVIDmania.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 21:39:36 No.9921660 Report

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>>9921637
Look at little Katsuchan oozing charisma even when Inoki standing next to him

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 21:46:31 No.9921726 Report

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>>9921535
Suzuki didn't
Taichi didn't
Taguchi never got shit and he's been there since the dark era.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 22:49:26 No.9922526 Report

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>>9920870
gay

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 22:51:04 No.9922548 Report

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>>9921726
>Suzuki
Basically an outsider that was already 50 years old at the time
>Taichi
Bro, come on. Shibata right before he was more injured was more over than Taichi ever was.
>Taguchi
What? Two times Junior champion and a BOSJ winner.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 23:51:28 No.9923316 Report

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>>9922526
We don't sign our posts here

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 23:55:05 No.9923349 Report

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>>9920870
Why didnt he just trade brains?

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 23:58:14 No.9923387 Report

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>>9921464
Honma has always struck me as a real life character from Ichi the Killer so if he has yak ties I am not surprised in the slightest

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 23:58:43 No.9923391 Report

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>>9923349
that's what he was trying to do with okada..

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 00:00:51 No.9923415 Report

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>>9920870
No because this nigga was named after a sandwich you get at Panera.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 00:08:45 No.9923620 Report

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100% after that match. I actually think Kenny only got it because Shibata was injured. People don't remember that even for the time, Kenny wasn't taken seriously until the WK match. They needed a new gaijin on top, but I think Shibby still had more momentum at that time. Once he got hurt, it went back to Kenny and Naito.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 00:14:14 No.9923762 Report

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>>9920870
100%
He spent the previous year in kayfabe and out to prove himself to the old guard and company. He signed a proper contract too which is why Ibushi never got a title run but when he signed, he did. Shibata would have probably spun the wheels with some feuds and matches for a couple years, coming close to winning the NJC again and the G1 but eventually he'd win the big one.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 01:02:32 No.9924889 Report

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>>9920870
Yes. On a long enough timeline since 2017, we've seen payoffs for Naito, Ibushi, Ospreay and even now Sanada.

Shibata would've been given his reign. I could've seen him beating Omega at WK13 instead of Tanahashi with the proper build of winning the G1 before that.

He was over as fuck. Still is.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 01:51:00 No.9926460 Report

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>>9920870
To the right there you

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 01:53:37 No.9926553 Report

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If even fucking SANADA gets a pity reign, then Shibby easily would have

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