[447 / 52 / 1]
Quoted By:
January 9th, 199X It has been almost a week since the CCCP was dissolved by the General Secretary, with a large majority of the various ethnic republics formed in the aftermath of the Great Patriotic War by imported populations having gained their independence. Their journeys to statehood have been long awaited by their peoples. However, in the general confusion and chaos which followed the collapse of one of the world's superpowers, one region within the malaise was forgotten. Unclaimed by almost every other group, at least by virtue of no real historical claim to what had been Russian land for centuries. Oskovia. Having been established for the Oskov peoples, themselves descendants of Slavic tribes which had inhabited the Urals before the very concept of Russia existed or the Mongols rode their armies from the east, the Oskovia CCP had been a prosperous but small republic in comparison to their immediate and surrounding neighbors. For as long as the CCCP had existed, there were no issues with any in the region. Now, this has changed. For the first few days, the regional government was silent on the matter of the entire west of the country splintering into ethnic republics. The Belarusians, Ukrainians, Kravo, Gorodniks, Cossaks in the south and a number of others all broke off from the Union; leaving Oskovia completely alone and independent as a result of broad language, and as many would come to find out, the very local party deciding to pick up and leave back for Moskva. What local apparatchiks remained scrambled to figure something out, and that's where you come in. You, whoever you may have been in your previous life, doesn't matter. You have been selected to form the Central Committee of the Emergency Crisis Council, the de facto governing body of what is being called the Republic of Oksovia. Never mind that no elections have been held, and that no one within the nation asked for it to be created. The only question now, is what is to be done?
Anonymous
>>6244635 >>6244651 Bringing a case against Krasvo would break apart what little unity the post-Soviets have. The only path we can take is to bide our time. Heighten security, watch the red party, and look over the borders and whatever channels of information from west to here. Hand this over to the new recruits or somebody else with competence. Once we have enough to hook them with, we approach others, and make it clear that we each are sovereign in our internal affairs.
We could try implicating them more, make it so that they were clearly involved when they weren't, but do we even have an asset in Krasvo?
Anonymous
>>6244651 >>6244682 Can we sort of bait out the Krasvo agents in our country? They have to have some people in our country to help move things in their direction. I don't wanna go after Krasvo for this yet if they have agents embedded in our government or critical industries. Same with other countries. I don't want to go to one of this other republics and let them know Krasvo is giving us trouble if it turns out they're going to support Krasvo over us. If we need to hire a few experts from the ex-Stasi and KGB to help the MVDO on this that sounds good to me.
Maybe we hold some type of nation wide military drill to push back on Krasvo until we know more?
Anonymous
>>6244718 The likely trouble we'll face in that direction is,
>>6235324 >"The second on the list are the Socialist Vanguard Party, which are well past old minded communists. They are Stalinists, with more in common with Krasvo to our west than any other group. It is for this reason, and some others, that we believe that they are being heavily influenced and possibly funded by our western neighbors as a means to pull more into their attempt at a sphere of influence." The networks are probably embedded in people embedded to that party or is ideologically driven enough to make up for the structure. The fact that we crowned a Romanov makes a cleanup without a reason worse.
As for the Stasi and KGB, we already recruited them? They're the new recruits. We could look for more, but then we'll have to ask them why they didn't show up voluntarily at first and all the related consequences from that makes its roost.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>6244635 We can do what China did and purge all of the foreign agents in our country. I forget how they did it, though.
>>6244815 They did show up and approached us, asking for funding to make a big State Security. But we chose to fund the MVDO instead.
Anonymous
>>6244718 >They have to have some people in our country to help move things in their direction. That's true. That could be the first task of the new department.
>I don't want to go to one of this other republics and let them know Krasvo is giving us trouble if it turns out they're going to support Krasvo over us. Comrade QM, can we get a rundown of what each nation in our region is like? It's a bit hard to plan foreign affair when you don't really know what the other nations are all about.
Post-Soviet Man
>>6244882 Novusk is the only one of real note outside of Krasvo, with their leader and Lukashenko being good friends even before the collapse of the USSR; same with Batovia (part of the reason he let them break off in the first place). For the most part, Gorodnika, Novusk, Tarnivsk, Batovia and Kardovya are all fairly standard republics with varying levels of corruption. For the most part they're more than pleased with Oskovia being the up and coming regional power, what with our choices so far having been very beneficial for both us and our neighbors instead of appealing solely to any of the larger powers. Their opinions on Krasvo, however, that you'll have to put effort into finding out. There's an answer they'd give you, and then their true feelings after all.
Anonymous
>>6245194 *We're* the regional power? With our one province and zero access to the Black Sea?
Anonymous
Post-Soviet Man
>>6245211 We're king, or rather, Tzar of the dirt mound right now. Even then, only because we managed to get a very solid military.
Anonymous
>>6245211 Post Yugoslavia collapse Serbia larping.
Anonymous
>>6244651 Support to this,it's for the best to consult within our others neighbors on the regions about the "Krasvonian Concern" rather than just going full jingoist about it
we barely have the Tsar/Count and the recognition from the world's eyes, and the last thing we want is to alienate our reputation here.
Let's not be crass here
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>6245194 >There's an answer they'd give you, and then their true feelings after all. Let me guess, they enjoy Oskovia having a belligerent rival they can help if Oskovia ever gets 'ideas' that make things hard for everyone else (read - them).
Anonymous
>>6245226 >Even then, only because we managed to get a very solid military. Huh, we only got the 792nd Motor Rifle Division and 87th Airborne Battalion alongside some hand-me-down East German equipment. The situation in other nations must be quite grim.
>>6245312 I love it. God is an Oskovian. Remove Krasvonian.
Anonymous
>>6245477 our military is probably the only one that isn't corrupt as shit
Anonymous
>>6245477 what
>>6245480 said post soviet armies are notorious for horrible corruption and weve focused heavily on making sure our army is worth a damn
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>6245485 Then I suppose we should be thankful for General Chebotaryov and his command staff.
Anonymous
>>6245480 >>6245485 We brought in a retired general to start training some new officers, got them new equipment and created an internal gendarmerie which are all very good, but none of these measures directly address the causes of military corruption and all have the potential to aggravate the issue instead (particularly #2) with a heady mix of patronage, indifference, petty theft, embezzlement and kickbacks.
We might have avoided the worst of the issues, but corruption was deeply embedded in Soviet and by extension post-Soviet society and it's not something you can solve easily without a massive and concerted effort to rip out the rot at its roots and it's likely still a plague in the command structure and rank and file alike. Sweep out corruption in the political sphere and high command, pay members more to live on, increase accountability and auditing of records, scrutinise contracts and procurement orders, demonstrate that there will be no tolerance or mercy for the corrupt and work to erode the culture of dishonesty that the Soviet Union left us with and we should see improvements. It will take a lot of time and focused effort with major reforms and years of effort to vanquish this endemic problem. I don't know what's been going on in the background but think corruption would still be a big problem in the armed forces at this time.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>6245503 i'm not saying there's no corruption, just that ours probably has the least
Post-Soviet Man
Going to leave things open for another day at most. Mostly because life's gotten busy for me.
Anonymous
>>6245194 Based on this, I support
>>6245319 >>6244651 I don't think the rest of them will be worth much, but better they are useless for us than not.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>6245752 Will vote the same as this anon
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>6244635 Make our security service better and uncompromised by foreign powers, and make sure this cannot happen again.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>6245739 Get better man
Hope for the best Post-Soviet Man!
Post-Soviet Man
>>6244635 Unfortunately it looks like the quest will have to go on hiatus for a few weeks. The past few days I've been dealing with getting what's essentially a promotion for work, and now that I have it I'm going to need to go in for training. Rest assured, Post-Soviet Sate Quest will return; when it does I'll announce it in the general thread.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>6246361 The wheels of democracy turn slowly, or something like that. Hope to hear from you soon, QM.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>6246361 Thanks for keeping us in the loop. Hopefully this council will reconvene soon, see ya comrades.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>6246361 Congratulation on your promotion, Comrade QM.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>6246361 Congrats, QM. Wish you the best in your job.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>6246361 Aw Man, well I wish you the best of Luck on your work
And Glory to Sovereignity of Oskovia!
Anonymous
While the QM is gone. What are you guys' vision for our nation? I see a few leaning towards integrating with the other European economies and a few wanting to stick with Russia.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>6247912 think it's less wanting to stick with russia and more just trying to avoid pissing off russia leading to later problems
Anonymous
>>6247912 I want to break free from Russia's orbit. Whether we accomplish that via a pivot to the west or establishing our own bloc among the other former SSRs matters not, I just want to keep Ivan at a safe distance to safeguard our neutrality. To that end, while I'd prefer to maintain good relations with the east if we can, I'd rather build links with both the rest of Europe and our other neighbours (except Krasvo) and strengthen ourselves internally to ensure that none of us will ever become the Bear's plaything.
Anonymous
>>6247912 I'm fine with either being with in the Russian sphere of influence or staying neutral. So long as we don't align with the westerners and the USA, since they tend to not be trustworthy.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>6248041 reminder that the vast majority of reasons why Russia's current relations with the US and the west are shit are Russia's fault
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>6247912 For me, this
>>6248018 but economically I'm fine with integrating with whoever.
Anonymous
>>6247912 I just want us to be the Switzerland of Eastern Europe, which is kinda why I don't want to lean too quickly to the west while Russia is still vulnerable/getting back up. They might get a bit jumpy if we're seen as helping the "enemy." Though, I suppose it won't be that bad at first.
In-character, I would prefer sticking with other nations in our region or Russia since I doubt it would be that easy to shake off the old Soviet patriotism.
Anonymous
>>6248536 that's not something we really need to worry about until Putin gets in and their regression starts
Post-Soviet Man
>>6248604 Oh, don't worry about Putin. He won't be an issue. Chechnya will...lets say, sort him out.
Anonymous
>>6248621 must be a timeline where they either won the first chechen war or didn't get betrayed by kadyrov in the second chechen war
Post-Soviet Man
Quoted By:
>>6248623 That much is left to be seen, but no Putin dies.
Anonymous
>>6248621 >possibly unstable Europe >now possibly unstable Russia Oh boy. How are you going to destabilise the Americas and Asia next.
Anonymous
>>6248836 >china fragments again >America enters another depression >Mexico has another revolution >South America becomes one giant battlefield Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>6248896 would be interesting to have the USSR's collapse trigger a slightly later collapse of the CCP
Anonymous
>>6248896 >Random monarchist route >Multiple POVs >Instability out the arse >Possible civil war waiting to breakout everywhere >Minor historical changes It's like I'm really playing a HoI4 mod!
Now all we need is for Japan to go to war with China and for the Soviet Union to rise from the grave.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>6248963 more likely the Russian Empire returns with our choices so far lol
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>6247912 Become the Prussia of the eastern-bloc.
We have an emperor and everything.
Anonymous
have anons archived this already ?
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>6263544 QM said he'd be away for a few weeks