>>6064440>Except no, you fucking can'tCharacters give speeches like that all the time. Are they usually villains? Yes. Are they always? No. But I agree that you can't depict them doing stuff like cannibalizing innocent children for no reason. Wiping out children, though? Yes. It's all about framing. You just have to make it clear the children are ugly and will never amount to anything good. If they were less humanoid, eating them would even be on the table. Morality has an aesthetic dimension, as they (Nietzsche, I think, originally?) say.
> Every single culture has some manner of concept for good and evil, even if it's literally just "What personally benefits me"That's just moral relativism and a rejection of objective morality, so... Yes? I guess we agree? By the point you're accepting pure self interest as a workable definition of "moral goodness", I think you've stretched the concept to the breaking point, but if you ARE accepting that definition, then someone doing the baby-eating absolutely counts.
>While you can say all sorts of things about how different people in different situations might see different things, not a single quest exists in this vacuum of relativity.Yes, but that's back to cultural relativism again, as
>>6064415 said. You've drifted from some MCs being objectively, undeniably evil to Bananas point of it all being relative and contextual.
>>6064444IIRC, didn't Melvin eventually start asking his similarly-evil GF what she wanted from life, presumably with some intent to help her achieve it? Yeah, Melvin never went good or even neutral by any sensible moral standard. I'm just pointing out that /qst/, on aggregate, will NOT let a MC stay 'pure evil' without sympathies and sympathetic characteristics of SOME sort. I'm not sure
>>6064001 will ever get his wish, if the MC who just kicks puppies and eats babies and rapes captives or whatever and never holds back or feels bad. Villain protagonists have to be likeable as protagonists on some level for most people to want to inhabit their headspace and direct their actions for any length of time.
Maybe that Craigslist Killer Quest might scratch the itch? I couldn't stomach it, myself... 