>>5513557Look anon, these arguments was already made last thread and in this one too, there is no need for a repeat of people saying of what's in character or not, what is orthodoxy and heresy, what is prragmatic or not, what is overdone or not. Both sides already explained their positions, and both have valid points. There were already proof that good karma options were passed over as well.
Like I said before, this is an argument that there won't be a conclusion because neither side will budge, because both have good point and bad points.