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Supreme Space Monke Ruler Quest 8

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sat 26 Nov 2022 02:42:55 No.5476181 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>5476464 >>5476492 >>5495149

The previous Supreme Ruler, Cijan Anak, went on a grand crusade through the stars and recovered a few very interesting pieces of technology; the most notable of which is a mysterious machine hailing from the Aristocrat sector of space. The Life Machine. It has totally restored the youth of two men in the Hegemony- and even brought one of those men back to life. To conquer death and entropy are among the most core goals of the Hegemony- and as such this object's value cannot be understated.

Subjected to multiple medical tests after fifteen years; Cijan Anak and Jale Berax both show signs of great health and well being. The machine has changed them both; for the better.

You are Wrix Val, the Supreme Ruler of the Jaxtian People and the Hegemony. You arranged to meet with Maktana Nanonae, your Overseer of Science, over what has been learned about the Life Machine over these past fifteen years.

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sat 26 Nov 2022 02:43:14 No.5476182 Report

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”My lord, I would like to share you our progress on the life machine.”
“Continue.”
”As you know, our primary goal was to learn everything we can about the machine's miraculous properties and, hopefully, reverse engineer it ourselves. Unfortunately, it is way too complicated and advanced for us to make any more them. The machine is essentially the absolute peak and end-point of an entire branch of science that we have zero background or understanding in- coming from a totally foreign culture and science base. It's a FOES- Feat of Extraordinary Science. Totally unrepeatable, at least for us. It'd be like dropping the Hegemony's most advanced AI cores on a pre-computer planet and expecting them to build functioning AIs out of it.”
“I see. But we can operate it?”
”On that front, I bring good news my Lord. The machine has two modes- a default mode where it heals and creatively “improves” on any living thing placed inside of the machine, restoring youth and healing damage. We already know of this mode from Jale Berax. Alavis predicts that the Aristocrats use this to heal and keep young their favorite pets and slaves- this way anything placed inside remains the same creature fundamentally, but is restored and rejuvenated. The second mode-”
“Brings the dead back to life?”
”Erhm, not exactly, my Rulership. Not that I would ever correct his Majesty...”
“But it can do that?”
”Yes. Cijan was a bit of a special case though. The machine's second ability allows it to transform one living thing into another, shifting biomass and energy and nervous system connections. It's a creative process. Before Tetak Kallas discovered the ability to interface with the machine using Starsight, we had no concept of how the Aristocrats could actually dictate what it was doing; now we do. If an Aristocrat enters the machine and interfaces with it, they could use it to transform themselves into something else. The significance of this cannot be understated. It could allow anything; not just restoring of youth, but turning a man into a woman, or a Mainlander into a Blonde, or a moron into a genius, or a weakling into an Alpha-Male, or the creation of an entirely new species. I mean, our eugenic program basically pales in comparison to this; all of our species efforts on that front basically mean nothing before the machine.”

It's quite a significant find, that you don't doubt. You think Maktana intentionally avoiding the topic of how this fundamentally changes what it means to be a Jaxtian in the presence of such knowledge. This could be because of what has happened over the past fifteen years. Maktana himself, working in close proximity to Xenos, may have developed a sense of affection or even estrangement- he does not value Jaxtian purity for its own sake.

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sat 26 Nov 2022 02:44:15 No.5476183 Report

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“The science team has also mentioned limited uses. Why? Or our fusion generators not even to power the machine?”
”No my Lord, we produce more then enough energy to power it. But the machine uses a special form of fuel to create organic matter from “nothing”- the BAG substance. It is fed into the machine from a pressurized, almost-liquid form which requires advanced containment. This is how it can produce biomass and fresh elements with which to create protein chains and all other parts of a living being. It also uses the BAG as a form of radiation shielding- as the BAG can “catch” radioactive particles or other forms of energy and converts it directly into matter. Without using the BAG this way any living thing inside would be killed by how much heat and radiation the machine generates. The design is quite elegant, but very wasteful, which is perhaps to be expected from something designed by the Aristocrats.”
“We have an entire moonful of BAG- Talacenti! Is there any reason the machine hasn't been made fully operational?”
”Ah! P-Please forgive me, my Lord... The reason is the machine requires industrial quantities of BAG to work, and have a very high purity level. We have also created an entire industrial supply chain of the BAG on Talacenti to create Superheavy Materials and would cripple the economy to retrofit the entire orbital body just for one single life machine. We can only really meet the demand a constantly running life machine would need for its fuel supply by finding another source of BAG.”
“I thought that the Reconquista fleet used their BAG supply to fuel the machine when they arrived?”
”They did- their entire supply for just enough to kickstart the machine again. Running on fumes, as it were.”
“But it still contains enough for... one more use?”
”Yes, my Liege. The machine uses a variable amount of BAG based on whatever its doing- transforming living things or healing larger and older creatures takes more time and takes more fuel, but for any purpose we would have it has just about enough for one use left. We have no idea what would happen if it ran out of fuel midway through a transformation, so we're avoiding that outcome.”
“Since the Hegemony has found it, it has only been used twice now, and has enough juice for a third. It was so close to expended; how did the Hazaar not use it up ages ago?”
”That I do not know, sire. It is likely they forgot how to use it since the split off from the Aristocrat species. Moreso, it seems something about Hazaar brain chemistry is incapable of achieving Starsight- Red Hazaar, I should specify.”
“My last and most important question for you then; is it done yet? Has the machine given us immortality?”

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sat 26 Nov 2022 02:45:15 No.5476185 Report

Quoted By: >>5476845 >>5476859

”We have the most concrete data on that at least. Our two current test subjects, Cijan Anak and Jale Berax, both reconstituted themselves in the life machine. They have been 'reset' to their fully grown, matured adult selves. In other words, the machine healed them to the part of their life span where they begin to age. The average life expectancy for a Jaxtian is 100 years of age, but this includes the 20 or so odd years of childhood and adolescence- the Hegemony's medical paradigm treats aging as a disease that needs to be corrected- and as such it is every year after this point in a person's life where they begin to age. Jale and Cijan both were reset to this point; so with no added changes they would both live on average another 80 years from this point on. However, the machine also improves upon the stock material and fixes microscopic damage accumulated in childhood or from radiation and so on- meaning that in reality they may live much longer then that.”
“But it can be used to restore an old person young again. This would mean that, as long as people keep revisiting the machine when they get old enough, every 80 years or so plus whatever extra, then they should theoretically become biological immortal.”
”Yes, my lord. It's the subject of scale. We have only one life machine and it takes time and resources to work. Jale's healing and de-aging process took about three hours; but he's an Alpha male so his body has more cells to deep clean. Older subjects also seem to take longer to undo the damage. Cijan took even longer but that is because he was dead. Women, blondes, or those with certain genetic traits may take significantly less time. On top of this, the machine creates a light dusting of heavy metals like lead and iron inside the containment unit from the radiation absorbed, meaning that needs to be cleaned occasionally before levels become toxic. Our scientists decided on a conservative 3 hours on average per restoration. With good efficiency and constant uptime the machine can therefore restore the youth of about eight people per day plus change. On average, we estimate that about three thousand people per year could be cured. If people are allowed to come back to the machine near the end of their natural life span to be restored again; then we can estimate that the machine can roughly support the permanent biological immortality of between two hundred thousand and three hundred thousand people at most. Out of 200 billion. That's nothing, my lord. Just on Jaxt alone, the planet of the Hegemony's elite, people could go their entire lives without ever even meeting one single person who was one of this exclusive club. It could only be for the most elite of the elite.”

It's true then, biological immortality may actually be within your grasp. For the first time ever, one of the main goals of the Hegemony's founding principles may actually be fulfilled.

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sat 26 Nov 2022 02:46:17 No.5476187 Report

Quoted By: >>5476193 >>5476320 >>5476382 >>5476408 >>5476455 >>5476459 >>5476482 >>5476591 >>5476686 >>5476715 >>5476831 >>5476833 >>5476849 >>5477036

It wouldn't be true immortality, of course, even one who came from the life machine can simply be shot or stabbed and die from the injury- and they are still trapped in an ever-decaying universe which one day will be unable to support life in any form. Regardless, the promise of everlasting life is right there, calling to you and all others who have reigned Supreme.

But there is a secondary aspect of the machine that draws you. It can transform people, yes, and restore youth, yes, but it can also heal unseen wounds; wounds of the mind. Jale Berax is a death commando who has gunned down innocent sentient lives- though there is no true innocence to those that stand in the way of progress. Yet despite this, he is perfectly well adjusted. Your psychologists report that Cijan Anak's old foible of insecurity over his twin-tailed mutation has also been cured- though this is also because the machine removed it. It seems that the mind, which is a physical thing inextricably linked to the body, can also be “healed” by the machine.

Despite your incredible mental and physical training to be a potential Supreme Ruler, and your blonde heritage increasing your toughness, you are still... tired. You feel tired. The act of donning the Mask of the Unspeakable drained you of some vital element of your psyche. You are still the same person. You are not controlled by violent mood swings nor filled with a suicidal depression and ennui, yet despite this, things are just different for you now. You've seen and done things that lead you to sleeplessness and reservation for daily life. It doesn't impact your ability to rule, nor will it impact your ability to one day father children and lead the Val family forward into the circle of elite families. Yet despite this, you feel like you want a reprieve. The machine could fix that.

Truthfully, using the machine's last remaining charge on yourself at your current age and level of health would be extremely wasteful. But based on what Maktana is saying, all you have to do is find a new source of BAG to power the machine for upwards of thousands of uses per year- that's not only a massive amount of restoration but also transformations, science experiments, gene-clensing... you can only imagine the possibilities now. This single remaining charge will be a trifle in the long run. It may be selfishness, but after all, you are the Supreme Ruler.

What should you do with the last remaining charge of the life machine?
>Use it to make yourself whole again
>Try to transform yourself into a greater form (Chance of severe consequences)
>Restore the youth of a very old Hegemony official instead
>Save it for later

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:OjqpsSRy Sat 26 Nov 2022 02:52:24 No.5476193 Report

Quoted By: >>5476205 >>5476214 >>5476227 >>5476230 >>5476231 >>5476405 >>5476692 >>5476724 >>5476833 >>5477009

>>5476187
TURN BLUEY INTO A JAXTIAN
>TURN BLUEY INTO A JAXTIAN
TURN BLUEY INTO A JAXTIAN
>TURN BLUEY INTO A JAXTIAN

DO IT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:2TZ5rwOF Sat 26 Nov 2022 03:01:43 No.5476205 Report

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>>5476193
+1 He's been serving us for a long ass time

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Sat 26 Nov 2022 03:07:02 No.5476214 Report

Quoted By:

>>5476193
>Do it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sat 26 Nov 2022 03:24:46 No.5476227 Report

Quoted By:

>>5476193
+1

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:dZlKnaFk Sat 26 Nov 2022 03:29:28 No.5476230 Report

Quoted By:

>>5476193
Support.

Save my nigga from life as a Hazar.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Sat 26 Nov 2022 03:30:36 No.5476231 Report

Quoted By:

>>5476193
+1

LET HIM BE WHAT HE ALWAYS DESERVED TO BE, if he's even still around.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sat 26 Nov 2022 03:34:32 No.5476233 Report

Quoted By: >>5476234 >>5476252

Also, I'd like to state that I think biological immortality for the Supreme + his advisors is OOC lame and boring and I'll never support it for that reason. A huge amount of the appeal of this quest is going through new leaders and new characters who all have different perspectives and strengths, and sticking with one guy forever is going to lose my interest fast.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:dZlKnaFk Sat 26 Nov 2022 03:37:41 No.5476234 Report

Quoted By: >>5476236 >>5476237

>>5476233
I agree, which is why we should focus on turning all life into perfect Jaxtian form.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sat 26 Nov 2022 03:40:55 No.5476236 Report

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>>5476234
I'm more okay with this, yeah. I don't think we should go smash the Life Machine or anything, I just don't want to use it for >le immortality.

For more IC reasoning, selecting .0000015% of the population to live forever is going to make the other .999985% super pissed. The AI can probably hide it from the plebs, but the elites are going to find out and start infighting to an epic degree, and the pacifying effect of the Mask is not going to last forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sat 26 Nov 2022 03:41:54 No.5476237 Report

Quoted By: >>5476715

>>5476234
I'm more okay with this, yeah. I don't think we should go smash the Life Machine or anything, I just don't want to use it for >le immortality.

For more IC reasoning, selecting 00.0000015% of the population to live forever is going to make the other 99.9999985% super pissed. The AI can probably hide it from the plebs, but the elites are going to find out and start infighting to an epic degree, and the pacifying effect of the Mask is not going to last forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Z/Bu/QO4 Sat 26 Nov 2022 04:01:34 No.5476252 Report

Quoted By: >>5476258 >>5476263

>>5476233
You wouldn't think that way if we had the Wonderchild I bet. What kind of Omega Supreme would that have been like?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sat 26 Nov 2022 04:07:27 No.5476258 Report

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>>5476252
I think I'd feel that way even more strongly if we had the Wonderchild. The only thing more boring than staying with the same guy forever is staying with the same *perfect* guy forever.

But we're locked out of the Wonderchild in any case, so it's a moot point.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Sat 26 Nov 2022 04:13:27 No.5476263 Report

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>>5476252
Eh, half of the appeal to this quest is seeing how new monkies have to deal with new issues. Kinda feels lame going from a long line of MCs to "oh yeah one dude lel"

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sat 26 Nov 2022 05:36:53 No.5476320 Report

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>>5476187
>Turn Bluey into a Jaxtian

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sat 26 Nov 2022 06:00:02 No.5476336 Report

Quoted By: >>5476369 >>5476377 >>5476383 >>5476459 >>5477009 >>5477161

I actually think ti would be a really nice gesture and very kino if he offered usage of the machine to KIMA, and maybe even handed off leadership to her if she wanted it after getting out of the machine... But Bluey seems to be a more unifying figure. Harder to justify to Wrix in-character, BUT it has its own distinct narrative and scientific/philosophical advantages!

1. It allows us to test the limits of the machine, AND to discover if there is a a true essence of 'Jaxtian purity' which transcends the material in any way -- what our Jedi seer called a 'presence', perhaps

2. It rewards Bluey, securing his eternal loyalty to the Hegemony over the Merchantiles, while simultaneously making the leader of the HVS a monke rather than a bugboi

3. It could offer some symbolic moral closure to Wrix, since after all that genocide of innocent aliens, he gave something back to the most loyal among them

4. Hazaar in the HVS will see a path to full citizenship and a future beyond eventually being annihilated by a masked man in a few hundred years when we inevitably want to properly own and populate the HVS with Jaxtians

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SiTb51Qh Sat 26 Nov 2022 06:20:13 No.5476359 Report

Quoted By: >>5492625

I would save the machine. We shouldn't blow it on a vanity project.

Sometime down the line we might have the need to make a Perfect Cell like designer organism for some purpose. Blowing it all for the equivalent of antidepressants is wasteful.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:dZlKnaFk Sat 26 Nov 2022 06:33:48 No.5476369 Report

Quoted By: >>5476373 >>5476382 >>5476388

>>5476336
Man what the fuck is this cringe, why the fuck would we give it to Kima after everything that had happened. This would be the most insane OOC action for Wrix then anything else. Miss me with your yas kweening girl power shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:hJ0NEL10 Sat 26 Nov 2022 06:41:57 No.5476373 Report

Quoted By: >>5476378

>>5476369
While I agree it would be OOC for Wrix, I disagree with your read of Kima.

By my count she's the only MC we have access to that hasn't raped or genocided anyone.

Well, her and Maktana II and even he was down with forced abortions.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Sat 26 Nov 2022 06:46:28 No.5476377 Report

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>>5476336
Kima isn't fit for the throne and she would be the first to agree.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Sat 26 Nov 2022 06:46:39 No.5476378 Report

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>>5476373
So you want to switch back to controlling Kima so we can rape and genocide?
BASED!

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sat 26 Nov 2022 06:54:13 No.5476382 Report

Quoted By: >>5476440 >>5476724

>>5476187
>Use it to make yourself whole again
>>5476369
So it would be OOC for Wrix to give it to Kima, but it wouldn't be OOC for him to use it on Bluey after genociding billions of xenos.
lol
lmao, even

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Anonymous ID:0sfQjnYS Sat 26 Nov 2022 06:54:34 No.5476383 Report

Quoted By: >>5476384

>>5476336
>this guy unironically wants to turn the only female character in this quest into a FtM tranny

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sat 26 Nov 2022 06:55:37 No.5476384 Report

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>>5476383
>tranny
Nah, just an ubermonke. Still female, I'd assume. We never received any indication she was trans.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sat 26 Nov 2022 06:56:43 No.5476388 Report

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>>5476369
>This would be the most insane OOC action for Wrix then anything else
She was his old friend and literally gave him the throne, so...

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Sat 26 Nov 2022 07:27:06 No.5476405 Report

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>>5476193
Can't we wait until he's near the end of his life to do this? What's the rush? We get more years out of him if we wait, we don't know when we'll find another source of BAG.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:nLv/OZIC Sat 26 Nov 2022 07:38:01 No.5476408 Report

Quoted By:

>>5476187
>Save it for later
Bluey still has more to live, don't waste this.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sat 26 Nov 2022 07:56:24 No.5476417 Report

Quoted By:

So far, that's 7 for Bluey, 1 for fixing Wrix, and 3 to save it for later.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:VpiOrI1j Sat 26 Nov 2022 08:46:50 No.5476440 Report

Quoted By:

>>5476382
Frankly it would be in character for Wrix to use the machine to cure his self induced mental health damages.

But I don't want to waste the machine on him.

A rare example of me picking gameplay over character work here.

Also fuck Wrix I hate that guy

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SyldB4Pn Sat 26 Nov 2022 08:59:40 No.5476455 Report

Quoted By:

>>5476187
Give it to Kima

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ssPDggMW Sat 26 Nov 2022 09:07:03 No.5476459 Report

Quoted By:

>>5476187
>Save it for later
We could make this Wrix' new personal goal as a Supreme and only use it if we manage to secure more BAG.
>>5476336
>I actually think ti would be a really nice gesture and very kino if he offered usage of the machine to KIMA, and maybe even handed off leadership to her if she wanted it after getting out of the machine...
Gross fucking coomer

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bsdJDTrb Sat 26 Nov 2022 09:14:07 No.5476464 Report

Quoted By:

Actually now that I think of it Wrix did know Kima personally and if he is really burnt out being Supreme wanting to pass it off seems in character.

Though given his hard core anti-dissident vibe I don't think it's in character to give it to a Supreme slayer (although is the official history that Kima won a duel against Cijan then chose Wrix as successor or is it that Cijan returned from a assassination and chose Wrix as successor. I know what Threemind said but this is an important legal chain of succession detail.)

If Wrix considers the chain to be Cijan>Kima>Wrix it is in-character for him to offer it to her

If he considers it Cijan>Wrix it is out of character.

BQM what is the "official" Wrix approved legal source of Wrix's Supremacy?

>>5476181

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Sat 26 Nov 2022 09:42:31 No.5476482 Report

Quoted By: >>5476492

>>5476187
>Save it for later
There's nothing we 'need' to use it on right now. Until we can use this thing freely, let's save it for an actual emergency. Or when we get more BAG.

>Take that isolated star in the midst of interstellar clusters between us and the Seekers, south of the HVS.
I think there should theoretically be more BAG outside of the stellar clusters, right? Let's see if this sort of star system holds a greater chance.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Sat 26 Nov 2022 10:02:26 No.5476492 Report

Quoted By: >>5476523 >>5476715

>>5476482
>>5476181

Actually. Could we make 'Obtain another source of BAG' a VOW for Wrix's reign? We haven't taken a true Vow since Eoba's.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:nZLnj0FD Sat 26 Nov 2022 10:52:17 No.5476523 Report

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>>5476492
Mate, this ain't exactly fuckin' easy, we have way bigger threats

We lost 15 years on purges when we should have been making up an gigantic navy to beat the esaal, the cyte and the consortium.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qMKUZkE7 Sat 26 Nov 2022 12:17:09 No.5476591 Report

Quoted By:

>>5476187
Create the Ubermonke to rule all monkes

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Sat 26 Nov 2022 14:17:17 No.5476686 Report

Quoted By:

>>5476187
>Save it for later

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:nZLnj0FD Sat 26 Nov 2022 14:44:37 No.5476692 Report

Quoted By: >>5476698

>>5476193
+1 because there hasn't been any other idea and saving it for later is kinda...pointless?

We're going to get the charges later. There's not really anything lese we can use it for.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Sat 26 Nov 2022 14:57:09 No.5476698 Report

Quoted By: >>5476700

>>5476692
Turning him into a jaxtian now is pointless when we can do it when he's near the end of his life. Saving it for now gives us more years out of Bluey's life in case we don't find more BAG in a timely manner.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:nZLnj0FD Sat 26 Nov 2022 15:00:27 No.5476700 Report

Quoted By: >>5476702 >>5476715

>>5476698
>Turning him into a jaxtian now is pointless when we can do it when he's near the end of his life.
Do we even know when that is? It feels like pointless waiting, and we're already going to be having a war with the consortium and essaal soon. Bluey's already been working with us for ltieral centuries - he's literally bene around since the time of Talacent, back when we didn't even have FTL travel. If he can't find a single successor for the Hazaar Vassal State, it was never going to work anyway.

We murdered a whole species of perfectly loyal people, at least THIS one guy who's been serving us for centuries deserves to get rewarded instead of being shot in the back of the head, which i'm certain anons will eventually vote for, given the choice.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Sat 26 Nov 2022 15:05:28 No.5476702 Report

Quoted By: >>5476703

>>5476700
I already told you the point of waiting, it's so we get more years out of Bluey. If you're certain they'll eventually vote for it, it's pointless to do it now.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:nZLnj0FD Sat 26 Nov 2022 15:06:07 No.5476703 Report

Quoted By: >>5476715

>>5476702
I said i was certain they'd eventually vote for shooting him in the back of the head.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 26 Nov 2022 15:27:58 No.5476715 Report

Quoted By: >>5476720 >>5476965

>>5476187
>Use it to make yourself whole again
We need him in a healthy state of mind if we want to actually move on, otherwise we’ll be dealing with doubtful, traumatized Wrix being a whiny bitch about shit.

But I imagine no one is thinking about the benefit of this ‘waste’, so I’ll also bump
>Save it for later
so anons don’t waste it on Bluey yet. Like, he still has a long life ahead of him still, right? Change him when he’s old and lived a productive life.

>>5476237
>implying we care about the 99.9999985% as Wrix

Anyway, it should only be used for the smartest, experienced, and most useful people. As tradition though, Supremes must give up the throne and chose a successor before using the Life Machine. That, I think we can all agree on.

>>5476492
Can we not? We’re going to be fighting a two-front war for fucks sake.

>>5476700
Yes, Bluey will become a Jaxian eventually, but only after he’s old.

>>5476703
It’s more likely Bananas makes the executive decision to blow Bluey’s brains out from some vote that was intentionally obfuscated from the voting base.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:nZLnj0FD Sat 26 Nov 2022 15:29:47 No.5476720 Report

Quoted By: >>5476726 >>5476965

>>5476715
>It’s more likely Bananas makes the executive decision to blow Bluey’s brains out from some vote that was intentionally obfuscated from the voting base.
Whichever happens, it WILL happen, so i'd rather turn him into a jaxtian BEFORE he gets killed by either stupidity or railroaiding, both of which this quest has in spades.

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sat 26 Nov 2022 15:30:45 No.5476721 Report

Quoted By: >>5476726 >>5476746

Leave the salt in the last thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sat 26 Nov 2022 15:32:30 No.5476724 Report

Quoted By: >>5476725 >>5476726

>>5476193
>>5476382
I'll change my vote to save it for later because the only actually remotely IC choice has no chance of winning. It's funny how many anons think RP matters only when it suits them.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:nZLnj0FD Sat 26 Nov 2022 15:34:26 No.5476725 Report

Quoted By: >>5476727

>>5476724
RP doesn't matter literally ever, it never has.

IF we won't get the choices that are always coherent, i'd rather just get the choices that are nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 26 Nov 2022 15:35:43 No.5476726 Report

Quoted By: >>5476727 >>5476734

>>5476720
Fair point, but Bluey survived all the autist nonsense since Talacent committed the original sin of sparing the Huzzar. I think he’ll survive until old age.

>>5476721
K sempai.

>>5476724
Wrix genocided all the Blue Huzzar in the Hegemony, regardless of loyalty. I am not putting Bluey’s life in his hands.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sat 26 Nov 2022 15:37:37 No.5476727 Report

Quoted By: >>5476734

>>5476725
>it never has.
So no supreme has ever done something contrary to what we voted for because it was against his personality?
lol
lmao, even

>>5476726
>I am not putting Bluey’s life in his hands.
It IS in his hands. He's the Supreme. Or he's supposed to be, and voting to give it to Bluey really feels like one of the votes that are going to be overwritten because of how wildly OOC it is for Space Hitler 2.0.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sat 26 Nov 2022 15:38:38 No.5476729 Report

Quoted By: >>5476731

Also, Bananas, what happened to Wrix changing his colors to Akule's?

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sat 26 Nov 2022 15:40:40 No.5476731 Report

Quoted By: >>5476737 >>5476743

>>5476729
Why would he change his colors to Akule?

He's primarily inspired by Agori and Kinja, as the players voted. The Unspeakable Mask is something that any Supreme Leader could or would use given the circumstances; it would have been an option in thread #5 if Eoba had agitated the Swall into nuking the Hegemony or setting up a secret colony- provoking a genocide in response.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:nZLnj0FD Sat 26 Nov 2022 15:43:08 No.5476734 Report

Quoted By: >>5476737

>>5476726
>Bluey survived all the autist nonsense since Talacent committed the original sin of sparing the Huzzar.
Our previous actions shows literally everything can die, i'd rather not take the chance.
>>5476727
>So no supreme has ever done something contrary to what we voted for because it was against his personality?
Anons have voted for retarded stuff all the time, so choosing 'what is IC' is hardly an constraint. At least letting Bluey become a Hazaar would give him a good reward.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sat 26 Nov 2022 15:49:07 No.5476737 Report

Quoted By: >>5476741 >>5476746 >>5476747

>>5476731
>He's primarily inspired by Agori and Kinja, as the players voted
Really? It feels as if the murder mask overwrote that. You admitted in the last thread that you thought Akule would win that vote anyway, it's not a big stretch to have Wrix wear his colors after wearing his mask for more than a decade.

>>5476734
>At least letting Bluey become a Hazaar would give him a good reward.
Why are you still assuming Space Hitler 2.0 would let Bluey become a Hazaar just because we want him to?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:nZLnj0FD Sat 26 Nov 2022 15:50:49 No.5476741 Report

Quoted By: >>5476746 >>5476747

>>5476737
>Why are you still assuming Space Hitler 2.0 would let Bluey become a Hazaar just because we want him to?
Mate, for some retarded reason, he allowed the literal traitors to survive completely unharmed in hazaar space for FIFTEEN YEARS. Literal, actual traitors. Not even just the hazaar, but the entire mercantilist rebellion who basically told the hegemony to fuck off.

If he cared about killing someone like bluey, he would have done it already.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 26 Nov 2022 15:54:31 No.5476743 Report

Quoted By:

>>5476731
To be fair, Wrix did steal the title of Unspeakable from him. Might as well ape him fully.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 26 Nov 2022 15:55:42 No.5476746 Report

Quoted By: >>5476748

>>5476737
>>5476741
Guys, I refer you to >>5476721. Please and thank you.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:vwJtlyg9 Sat 26 Nov 2022 15:56:37 No.5476747 Report

Quoted By: >>5476751 >>5476754

Hey, Bananas, are we slloeed to vote for transforming Bluey? Is that going to be veto'd?

>>5476741
>>5476737
Just ask him directly you weirdos.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:nZLnj0FD Sat 26 Nov 2022 15:56:41 No.5476748 Report

Quoted By: >>5476750

>>5476746
You can't just 'leave' the literal previous action that is impacting our current state of the game

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 26 Nov 2022 15:57:44 No.5476750 Report

Quoted By: >>5476838

>>5476748
Hey, it ain’t my post

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:nZLnj0FD Sat 26 Nov 2022 15:57:44 No.5476751 Report

Quoted By:

>>5476747
Bananas doesn't tend to answer stuff like that

He usuually waits until the votes over, and then says
>actually no you cant do this, here's my own option

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sat 26 Nov 2022 16:01:13 No.5476754 Report

Quoted By: >>5476756

>>5476747
Of course, but I'm pretty sure it's tied now so I'm just going to go to bed.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:nZLnj0FD Sat 26 Nov 2022 16:02:52 No.5476756 Report

Quoted By: >>5476758 >>5476759

>>5476754
Yes to being allowed to vote, or yes to being veto'd?

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sat 26 Nov 2022 16:04:58 No.5476758 Report

Quoted By: >>5476761

>>5476756
Shut up.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:vwJtlyg9 Sat 26 Nov 2022 16:05:26 No.5476759 Report

Quoted By: >>5476761

>>5476756
If he meant the veto, he wouldn't care that it was tied.

Also, kek, BTFO

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:nZLnj0FD Sat 26 Nov 2022 16:06:26 No.5476761 Report

Quoted By: >>5476764

>>5476758
That does not clear up the question.

>>5476759
Or it could mean that it didn't matter because it was tied, and thus, wouldn't need to be vetoed anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 26 Nov 2022 16:08:33 No.5476764 Report

Quoted By:

>>5476761
Anon, just assume it won’t be vetoed and leave it at that.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SnDcHNPc Sat 26 Nov 2022 16:09:38 No.5476766 Report

Quoted By: >>5476768

Wait, quick question here, what happened to Hwat's anti nuclear project? Did it just get dropped?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 26 Nov 2022 16:10:21 No.5476768 Report

Quoted By: >>5476770

>>5476766
It died with him. Move on.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SnDcHNPc Sat 26 Nov 2022 16:11:55 No.5476770 Report

Quoted By: >>5476772 >>5476773 >>5476815

>>5476768
Did no one record any of his stuff? He had already had a prototype, it clearly wasn't just in the papers.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:nZLnj0FD Sat 26 Nov 2022 16:13:26 No.5476772 Report

Quoted By:

>>5476770
Maybe it's been shelved? We know very little about what happened on those 15 years other than death, death and more death.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 26 Nov 2022 16:14:30 No.5476773 Report

Quoted By: >>5476780

>>5476770
Yes, his most loyal men… the Mercantilists.

It’s effectively gone. Move on.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SnDcHNPc Sat 26 Nov 2022 16:22:55 No.5476780 Report

Quoted By:

>>5476773
Well that's great, now we just gotta wait for someone to nuke us and suddenly the mask comes up again

Whatever, i suppose. Here's my vote.
>Turn bluey into a jaxtian

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sat 26 Nov 2022 17:17:53 No.5476815 Report

Quoted By:

>>5476770
Wrix was busy with more important stuff, like killing the Vetuckinas.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:VmwchtlH Sat 26 Nov 2022 17:34:24 No.5476831 Report

Quoted By:

>>5476187
>Save it for later

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:O+timoLw Sat 26 Nov 2022 17:35:32 No.5476833 Report

Quoted By:

>>5476187
>>5476193
Support

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ZFLJN0lN Sat 26 Nov 2022 17:40:21 No.5476838 Report

Quoted By: >>5476840 >>5476965

>>5476750
I have to agree. You reap what you sow. You can't expect players to just not show feelings about the votes of a previous thread , especially when they impact the current one.
I could see a blanket "be polite" rule but memory holing past disliked events seems to be dodging .

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ZFLJN0lN Sat 26 Nov 2022 17:41:23 No.5476839 Report

Quoted By:

>Save the machine for later

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sat 26 Nov 2022 17:42:22 No.5476840 Report

Quoted By: >>5476965

>>5476838
>I could see a blanket "be polite" rule but memory holing past disliked events seems to be dodging .
Yeah. Should've just retconned the event if we're not supposed to even mention it.

What Can Change the Nature of a Monke?

What Can Change the Nature of a Monke? ID:rZIgfzk1 Sat 26 Nov 2022 18:01:44 No.5476845 Report

Quoted By:

>>5476185
>Save it for later.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:B7jzcpCm Sat 26 Nov 2022 18:15:02 No.5476849 Report

Quoted By:

>>5476187
>TURN BLUEY INTO A JAXTIAN

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Sat 26 Nov 2022 18:23:51 No.5476859 Report

Quoted By:

>>5476185
>Save it for later.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:nZLnj0FD Sat 26 Nov 2022 20:16:59 No.5476951 Report

Quoted By:

Y'know, no one actually ever changes their vote in any meaningful manner, but what's the point of saving it for later?

This is going to be like in every RPG game where we 'Save things for later' and end up never using them at all. If we find the new material without having used it, that's a waste. If Bluey ends up getting killed, well, i really doubt we'd be able to put him back like we did Cijan, given that his long lifetime means there's no one who's known him for a considerable part of his life like Jale knew Cijan.

The reason why is because people in this quest never take a risk when it matters.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Sat 26 Nov 2022 20:28:33 No.5476965 Report

Quoted By: >>5477148

>>5476838
>>5476840
He just said to not be salty, not to memory-hole events. This was in response to >>5476720 (bitching about "stupidity and railroading") and >>5476715 (accusing the QM of "intentionally obfuscat[ing] the voting base").

Frankly, I think the only way we're getting out of this trap it to just no respond to the folks who continue to be rude and bitter about the QMing style.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ZynQOMV8 Sat 26 Nov 2022 21:01:20 No.5477009 Report

Quoted By:

>>5476193
>TURN BLUEY INTO A JAXTIAN

Supporting this

There are a range of IC reasons which we’d do it, outlined by this anon >>5476336

Also, it’s cool

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:EAchPO3w Sat 26 Nov 2022 21:23:51 No.5477036 Report

Quoted By:

>>5476187
>TURN BLUEY INTO A JAXTIAN
No one else deserves to be uplifted as he does

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Sat 26 Nov 2022 21:30:14 No.5477044 Report

Quoted By: >>5477050 >>5477054

Do we have genetic samples of both Kima and Cijan? we could create a 50%/50% indigo clone (basically a child).

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Sat 26 Nov 2022 21:34:53 No.5477050 Report

Quoted By: >>5477148

>>5477044
Nah, Wrix/Kima. Secure the Val bloodline!

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:nZLnj0FD Sat 26 Nov 2022 21:36:00 No.5477054 Report

Quoted By: >>5477057

>>5477044
The only chance is if they got it from her before everything went to hell

Even if they went, she's probably way older now and not as 'genetically perfect'

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Sat 26 Nov 2022 21:39:22 No.5477057 Report

Quoted By: >>5477062 >>5477070

>>5477054
Genetics don't really hange, do they? She's just less fertile and hormonally-stable now, which is irrelevant if she's not incubating it in her womb.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:nZLnj0FD Sat 26 Nov 2022 21:43:26 No.5477062 Report

Quoted By:

>>5477057
I'm pretty sure it does, it means the eggs aren't as high-quality as they would have been when she was in her prime, no? IF She still has them.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:/hCPFSyL Sat 26 Nov 2022 21:50:55 No.5477070 Report

Quoted By: >>5477104

>>5477057
DNA does change. Both from external sources (chemicals, radiation), and the fact that the cells simply fail to copy the sequence perfectly which amounts to small changes over time. Why do you think it's better to have children before 30?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Sat 26 Nov 2022 22:12:11 No.5477104 Report

Quoted By: >>5477119

>>5477070
Hormonal levels and general health, primarily. Also, yeah, quality of eggs and amount of viable eggs... Wuite possibly irrelevent when dealing with blood samples and futuristic cloning. We cloned Maktana after hundreds of years, Eoba after decades.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:nZLnj0FD Sat 26 Nov 2022 22:26:29 No.5477119 Report

Quoted By:

>>5477104
Yes, but in this situation, they'd probably need an egg from kima because of her special genetic quality.

If we managed to get one, though, we'd probably manage to get an even better wonderchild now that Cijan is super-charged.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 26 Nov 2022 22:42:26 No.5477148 Report

Quoted By:

>>5476965
To be fair, he was trying to set it up for a narrative twist.

Also, good luck with that. Anons are still bitching that the Red Huzzar are alive, the only positive development seems to be the majority of the playerbase actually liking Agori enough to vote for him.

>>5477050
Will actively vote to abort btw.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:A8rNmgw8 Sat 26 Nov 2022 22:50:04 No.5477161 Report

Quoted By: >>5477197

>>5476336
I mean...Kima is actually the best option to determine the full effects of the device on the monke genes as she would offer the female data and her genes were so lit that she was considered Supreme material despite being a woman. She even turned it down after assassinating a Supreme also becoming the first female who successfully could have claimed the position of supreme but refused. Not to mention the current Supreme owes her everything. What would we have to learn from it though.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:nZLnj0FD Sat 26 Nov 2022 23:19:14 No.5477197 Report

Quoted By:

By the way, i've gone and counted every post, and the current vote, i believe, is

14 for Bluey
11 for Saving
1 for Kima? 2 if >>5477161 is a vote?

If i missed someone, do say, but i do believe it's right, since i went through all of them by hand.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Sun 27 Nov 2022 00:30:14 No.5477263 Report

Quoted By: >>5477266

I wonder if Bluey will even accept? He might not feel worthy or willing to trade lifespan(being so dutiful an overseer to his race) to use the machine.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:nZLnj0FD Sun 27 Nov 2022 00:35:20 No.5477266 Report

Quoted By: >>5477288

>>5477263
Bluey is dutiful, but he's not completely depersonalized. There's no way in hell he wouldn't take any opportunity to become a monkey when he hates hazaar so much

Actually, if he does get turned, he'll probably need an actual family n ame, right? Will he get the name of that one security guard who is was his progenitor, or Talacent who basically adopted him?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:7kz3wY5r Sun 27 Nov 2022 00:54:15 No.5477288 Report

Quoted By: >>5477297

>>5477266
Talacent was an Inari, right? Seems appropriate.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:nZLnj0FD Sun 27 Nov 2022 00:58:08 No.5477297 Report

Quoted By: >>5477304

>>5477288
Intari, yes.

I wonder which would be better, telling him beforehand or making it a surprise. The latter feels like it would have a really damn fun reaction, just thinking about it makes me grin.

Bluey is the one person who has pretty much never fucked up on this quest. No retarded railroaded decisions, no vote induced stupidity, no dumb chimpouts...

Truly, he is /ourguy/

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:7kz3wY5r Sun 27 Nov 2022 01:02:34 No.5477304 Report

Quoted By: >>5477308 >>5477322

>>5477297
His abusive attitude towards other Hazaar probably contibuted to who Yuan became, and he made Yellow Hazaar without anyone's permission and in violation of an agreement his Supreme made.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:nZLnj0FD Sun 27 Nov 2022 01:05:08 No.5477308 Report

Quoted By: >>5477315

>>5477304
>His abusive attitude towards other Hazaar probably contibuted to who Yuan became,
That is a complete lie

Yuan was raised by a Jaxtian in an elite family (Scholiander). Bluey wasn't even in any position of power when Yuan started seething. Yuan was literally an rich brat. He literally got to pick his job out of three extremely important options. Basically got handed life on a silver platter.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:7kz3wY5r Sun 27 Nov 2022 01:08:03 No.5477315 Report

Quoted By: >>5477322 >>5477326

>>5477308
The Scholianders aren't elite. Qet was their only significant member. The rest of it has been rehashed to death. If you don't think being segregated, taught your biological and intellectual inferiority, and being held back from your full potential because of racism is abusive, I can't convince you and won't bother trying.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sun 27 Nov 2022 01:11:46 No.5477322 Report

Quoted By: >>5477324

>>5477304
>spoiler
No, anons contributed more to who Yuan would become, and Yuan would probably have been as based as Bluey had anons not moralfagged themselves into a catastrophe.

Same with the Yellow Huzzar, we would’ve got some narrative development on them had anons decided to be more harsh instead of nice about it.

>>5477315
The Scholianders are elite, Qet wouldn’t have become Supreme if they weren’t.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:7kz3wY5r Sun 27 Nov 2022 01:13:10 No.5477324 Report

Quoted By:

>>5477322
Reread the thread where we chose him. Qet was unusually elite for a mundane lineage.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:nZLnj0FD Sun 27 Nov 2022 01:14:10 No.5477326 Report

Quoted By: >>5477341

>>5477315
They had good enough genes to have multiple supreme candidates, elite doesn't mean "great noble lines". You don't see people like that AI testing schmuck getting offered to pick between scientist or philosopher educations.
>taught your biological and intellectual inferiority, a
He has absolutely no right to say that when his ideology was literally to give everyone eternal orgasms. Lmao, "smartest hazaar" and he's still just a degenerate retard with reddit tier understanding of philosophy.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sun 27 Nov 2022 01:28:51 No.5477341 Report

Quoted By: >>5477344

>>5477326
Not everyone, just create a race of Coomers to become the Ubermensch of the Hegemony.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:nZLnj0FD Sun 27 Nov 2022 01:30:27 No.5477344 Report

Quoted By: >>5477366

>>5477341
It's dumb and it proves all the stuff said about the hazaar right.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:6ATAAtRw Sun 27 Nov 2022 01:44:11 No.5477366 Report

Quoted By:

>>5477344
That's just, like, your opinion maaaan

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sun 27 Nov 2022 02:48:05 No.5477478 Report

Quoted By: >>5477536

You have decided to use the last remaining charge of the life machine to...turn a Hazaar into a Jaxtian.

It's strange, especially given how you treated the Blue-Hazaars earlier during your reign. But in a way, it makes sense. Bluey is the Ruler of the HVS, essentially the Supreme Ruler of your closest neighboring political entity. To put a Jaxtian in charge would broadcast to the world, “this is ours too!”.

Though it will set a strange precedent. Bluey has been loyal to the Hegemony and the Supreme Ruler for many Jaxtian lifetimes now. He helped crack down on dissidents and even helped turn in many of his own people on Xin who tried to put in special requests to flee. Only the original group of Mercantiles, banishing themselves under Kima's flower of peace, were allowed to go into the HVS willingly. The rest? They were Hegemony subjects. Whatever you, and the mask, wanted to do to them was fair game. Bluey's never questioned any orders of that nature, at all. This is a reward for loyalty.

You want to make sure this is done right, so you have to invite Tetak Kallas, disgraced by the previous Supreme, but now a powerful Star Seer, in order to work the machine. Bluey travels all the way from the HVS to your invitation.

”I mean... is it really true? Can it really do this?”
“It can, and we will. We would like Jaxtian blood to rule the HVS, and there is no better candidate to test the machines transformative properties. If, of course, you are willing to take the risks.”
”Yes! Yes! Please get me out of this body forever!”
“Even though it could reduce your maximum lifespan? For a Hazaar, turning into a Jaxtian is like catching a terminal illness.”
”I do not know how much longer I would live anyway. My ganglions are heavy. I do not wish for a knife between my legs any more. Please, change me!”
“Step inside the machine, and we shall.”

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sun 27 Nov 2022 02:49:05 No.5477479 Report

Quoted By:

Your thoughts briefly drift to Bluey. He's a Blue Hazaar. You killed all of his kind. You wonder, how does that make him feel?

Based on all known Hegemonic records and personal logs between Bluey and his constituents; the genocide barely affected him. He always supports the actions of the current Supreme Ruler. Could he be delirious or stuck in a pattern of thought because of his advanced age? Or did he truly not care that the Blue Hazaar, his own people, a mix between the “dirty” Hazaar and the “glorious” Jaxtians, was a failed experiment? An aborted race, strangled in the crib?

Bluey has always been a Jaxtian supremacist. Even though he wasn't a Jaxtian- against his own people. You are fairly certain that if you ordered him to carry out the rest of the genocide in the HVS, he would have done so without question before turning the knife on himself. But somehow you feel this was always his intention. Sharing and growing the knowledge of the Hegemony, hoping to be reborn out of his filthy alien self and into his true self underneath.

The machine is finished.

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sun 27 Nov 2022 02:50:07 No.5477480 Report

Quoted By: >>5477502

Bluey steps out of the machine; now a Jaxtian. He is fully complete.

”Wow... This is... so different! My body is so strong and fluffy now- and I'm finally the right shade of blue. Thank you, Wrix, my Lord.”

DNA samples, pictures, and all forms of bio-data are collected. Finally, he is allowed to leave and return to the HVS as your loyal vassal. Many centuries of service, finally rewarded. For the third time the machine has been used; more of its mysteries have been revealed.

You speak to Maktana II after the data is all collected. He explains to you how strange and uncanny it really is.

“He is a Jaxtian now, all the way through. From his DNA to his body cells and structures. His tissues and brain are all Jaxtian. I would never question you decision, my Lord, but I am still filled with doubt this could be true. Bluey is hundreds upon hundreds of years old; somehow all of that information in his physical brain tissues and electro-chemical connections are now stored in a single Jaxtian brain, who only naturally live to be about sixty or so? And his DNA... His DNA is exactly as a Jaxtian should be. He has no parents, but he has “fake” familial connections, going back to common ancestors for all Mainlanders. The machine created a viable, single, unique organism of a species, somehow perfectly fitting into an existing species without any of the direct connections or lineage that make a organism what it is. He looks, acts, will breed as a Jaxtian does. Any scientist who digs up his bones hundreds of years from now or studies his DNA samples would have zero indication to believe he was ever anything but a Jaxtian.”
”Then that means the machine worked, did it not?”
“It did, my lord. I just don't know how the aliens could accomplish this. Improving and restoring youth, perhaps, but working backwards and creating new life of a kind that doesn't even exist... how can it do this? The machine worked- but perhaps it works a little too well.”

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sun 27 Nov 2022 02:51:08 No.5477481 Report

Quoted By: >>5477496 >>5477497 >>5477498 >>5477502 >>5477503 >>5477508 >>5477513 >>5477548 >>5477563 >>5477645 >>5477710 >>5477755 >>5477779 >>5477801 >>5477849 >>5477869 >>5477899 >>5477929 >>5477964

While the deeper philosophical meanings of what the life machine can do may be lost on you- you have more practical concerns.

Eoba Garastra II began the tradition of Overseers- high ranking officials just under the Supreme Ruler in terms of influence and authority. The idea behind these is to help run a multi-faceted and sprawling space empire- something that only the most neurotic and controlling of men could attempt before. Overseers may be a way to divide up your power- but they are a fundamental part of any administration.

There were always two Overseers. The Overseer of Science and the Overseer of Xeno-Integration. That was Bluey's job originally; to find ways to incorporate the talent and citizenship of alien beings into the Hegemony. But after your reign... there will be no more aliens in the Hegemony. It is an outdated position. Bluey's importance as the Ruler of the HVS cannot be understated; but he is no longer an Overseer in the Hegemony. You've decided to create a new class of Overseer- the Overseer of Infrastructure, to deal with logistics, space shipping, large scale construction and terraforming projects, resource and population management, and all other things that make up the core industries of the empire. It's the most natural Overseer you can elect; after all, the military, enforcers, and propaganda departments should remain under your direct control.

Now, you must select one candidate to take up the role. You tell the computer network to select your three highest ranking candidates for the job, and it does so. Whichever you choose will have a great deal of influence on the Hegemony's economy, and building back stronger.

>Clok Garastra
>Mann Yum
>Telaan Val

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sun 27 Nov 2022 02:57:16 No.5477496 Report

Quoted By:

>>5477481
>Mann Yum
Sometimes you just need a boring guy to get things done.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sun 27 Nov 2022 02:57:20 No.5477497 Report

Quoted By: >>5478036

>>5477481
>Clok Garastra
Gifted, and a Monke Resources buff? This is my pick.

But Telaan Val would be pretty neat as well (just for the lolz).

Also, Bluey’s lifespan just shortened. ;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Sun 27 Nov 2022 02:58:53 No.5477498 Report

Quoted By:

>>5477481
>Mann Yum
He seems decent enough and I don't want to deal with fear nor arrogance. Just someone who does their job and does it well.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:b6yTWKBz Sun 27 Nov 2022 03:04:16 No.5477502 Report

Quoted By: >>5477508

>>5477481
Those +/- are hilarious
>Mann Yum
He doesn't have to burn with passion to supervise logistics, construction and population management. If anything, autism is very welcome.
>>5477480
We should appoint Bluey a therapist to talk to so we can get a better understanding of his memory after his brain was transformed.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Sun 27 Nov 2022 03:05:25 No.5477503 Report

Quoted By:

>>5477481
>Mann Yum

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ZynQOMV8 Sun 27 Nov 2022 03:07:57 No.5477508 Report

Quoted By:

>>5477481
Well, that change worked well.

It’s interesting how one could reconcile a species supremacist mindset with the fact that one race can be utterly changed into another by a simple machine… anyway

>Mann Yum

>>5477502
>appoint Bluey a therapist

Supporting

Would be interesting to get his thoughts over the next several years

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:a6ROTDf0 Sun 27 Nov 2022 03:11:00 No.5477513 Report

Quoted By:

>>5477481
>Clok Garastra
Get our population SWOLE for the war!

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:If89rmJo Sun 27 Nov 2022 03:27:45 No.5477536 Report

Quoted By: >>5477759 >>5492625

>>5477478
>He even helped turn in many of his own people on Xin who tried to put in special requests to flee.
I really don't like Bluey.

Turning back innocent refugees trying to escape a holocaust is evil.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:9iqwhba0 Sun 27 Nov 2022 03:36:56 No.5477548 Report

Quoted By:

>>5477481
>>Clok Garastra

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Sun 27 Nov 2022 03:48:42 No.5477563 Report

Quoted By:

>>5477481
>Mann Yum
A boring bureaucrat makes sense for the job.

? ID:rZIgfzk1 Sun 27 Nov 2022 04:37:48 No.5477645 Report

Quoted By:

>>5477481
>Cijan Anak, with Telaan in support.

Clok isn't even an engineer. Either Mann or Telaan would work. If we want to build up our fleet, then I think that we should go with the ship builder. No one would question our nepotism at this stage. Cijan has actually seen battleships though. I think that the two of them working together should be able to figure something out. Maybe let Mr. Moviestar help design the interior, to assist in repelling boarders.

? ID:rZIgfzk1 Sun 27 Nov 2022 04:42:03 No.5477651 Report

Quoted By: >>5477779

If we wanted other overseers, appointing Maktana our Overseer of Health and Population Management. He's not busy right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Sun 27 Nov 2022 05:59:23 No.5477710 Report

Quoted By:

>>5477481
>Mann Yum

Clok Garastra will totally try to duel us for the title of Supreme Ruler.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jln0a/Io Sun 27 Nov 2022 06:30:05 No.5477725 Report

Quoted By:

A disease if that is age perhaps cure it become something new a nice detailed edit bluey but not haazar it could fit so much inside that brain skipping past the memory limit of the brain.
Why treat the symptoms endlessly when you can have the cure

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sun 27 Nov 2022 07:27:08 No.5477755 Report

Quoted By:

>>5477481
>Telaan Val
Considate Val power!
maybe not a wise idea, but an interesting one and in-character

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sun 27 Nov 2022 07:28:53 No.5477759 Report

Quoted By:

>>5477536
Perfect for a servant of the (in D&D terms) lawful evil Hegemony.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Sun 27 Nov 2022 08:15:05 No.5477779 Report

Quoted By: >>5477786 >>5477805

>>5477651
I think Matakana is still busy, there's still a Science Overseer and I think it's him?

>>5477481
>Telaan Val
He may be our Dad, but he unironically looks most suitable for the role - his past experience means he only lacks the 'Terraforming Projects' knowledge and none of the candidates have that.

Clok - he's brilliant, but this seems the wrong field for him. If we still had Xeno-integration he'd be an obvious candidate for that post. Since he's trained in Psychology - let's make him a Therapist for us, I think we could use one.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oLNFju5E Sun 27 Nov 2022 08:28:49 No.5477786 Report

Quoted By:

>>5477779
>Let's make him a Therapist for us
Therapists can't be personally involved with their patients for a reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sun 27 Nov 2022 08:47:40 No.5477801 Report

Quoted By: >>5477918

>>5477481
>Telaan Val
Nepotism? What's that.

I feel that Bluey actually turning into a Jaxtian is the first unambiguously good thing to happen in the quest in a long, long time. I wonder what the next awful surprise is going to be.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sun 27 Nov 2022 08:58:56 No.5477805 Report

Quoted By:

>>5477779
>let's make him a Therapist for us, I think we could use one.
You want to make the intelligent power-hungry Supreme candidate our therapist?

Lol. Lmao.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:EAchPO3w Sun 27 Nov 2022 10:38:36 No.5477849 Report

Quoted By:

>>5477481
>>Telaan Val

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fqNoalZi Sun 27 Nov 2022 11:16:37 No.5477869 Report

Quoted By: >>5477963

>>5477481
I woulda thought his reaction would be a bit stronger...but that was nice, he deserved it.

Either way...
>Mann Yum
Seems like the perfect fit. Clok Garastra is too cool for Infrastructure, and we all know Garastras love to fake their deaths.

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sun 27 Nov 2022 13:02:27 No.5477893 Report

Quoted By: >>5477898 >>5477916 >>5477959 >>5478047 >>5478097

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:fqNoalZi Sun 27 Nov 2022 13:10:55 No.5477898 Report

Quoted By: >>5477904 >>5477916

>>5477893
This man needs therapy

It's understandable, i suppose. There are no female hazaar. Just gotta give him some help.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Sun 27 Nov 2022 13:11:59 No.5477899 Report

Quoted By:

>>5477481
>Telaan Val
Massive shipyards are what we need for spacewarfare, he has the experience necessary to pave the way to us outgunning our opponents.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fqNoalZi Sun 27 Nov 2022 13:29:45 No.5477904 Report

Quoted By:

>>5477898
Actually...do we have therapists in the hegemony? You'd think there'd be some manner of mental aid, given that even the supreme candidates would often be pretty psychotic.

To help bluey, i reckon, he needs some uh...treatment. The Life Machine changed his body, sure, but his mind is still his, which includes century of being a hazaar (who don't have women)

He needs to learn how to be a Jaxtian.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Sun 27 Nov 2022 14:11:57 No.5477916 Report

Quoted By: >>5477921

>>5477893
>>5477898
I think that the Machine doesn't think that homosexuality is a defect, the Aristocrats probably wouldn't, it's still something that happen in Jaxtians so not actually abnormal and "gay jaxtian" is the most literal interpretation for the conversion of a member of a pretty male-like species that we know is attracted to male jaxtians.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sun 27 Nov 2022 14:21:09 No.5477918 Report

Quoted By: >>5477920

>>5477801
>I wonder what the next awful surprise is going to be.
That we’re going to be facing overwhelming battleship fleets made from Azurium with nothing but our ferret normal cruiser variants. And that’s only the Esaal.

But hey, I’m sure that boring safety bureaucrat will make lovely cities before the Blitz, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sun 27 Nov 2022 14:22:21 No.5477920 Report

Quoted By:

>>5477918
>fewer* normal cruisers

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fqNoalZi Sun 27 Nov 2022 14:23:58 No.5477921 Report

Quoted By: >>5477928

>>5477916
I would think it's mroe due to the fact that the machine didn't erase all his memories, which would mean he'd have like two centuries worth of 'memories' from when he was an hazaar, who didn't really have females.

Like i said, someone's gotta teach him how to be a monke.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sun 27 Nov 2022 14:33:15 No.5477928 Report

Quoted By: >>5477931

>>5477921
Honestly? Just have Cijan and Jale take Bluey out on a boys night, get him a ‘nice’ girl, and let nature take its course. No need for fucking therapy when Jale had his fucking PTSD removed by the Machine.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oRihUhWz Sun 27 Nov 2022 14:34:03 No.5477929 Report

Quoted By: >>5477947

I found the webcomic that I was talking about last thread thanks to an anon on /v/ delivering.
I'm not sure if this counts as "clogging the thread" or derailing it but I just wanted to post it since I was reminded of it. This isn't meant to be a derail and I'm going back to just lurking after this.
>>>/v/619350390
>>5477481
clok garastra, I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fqNoalZi Sun 27 Nov 2022 14:36:30 No.5477931 Report

Quoted By: >>5477933

>>5477928
It'll take more than a simple night out, the way i see it, to deal with two centuries worth of 'experience'

Up until this point, there wasn't, to him, really a difference between a male and female jaxtian.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sun 27 Nov 2022 14:40:31 No.5477933 Report

Quoted By: >>5477937

>>5477931
Bet you it’ll take five minutes to set him straight

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fqNoalZi Sun 27 Nov 2022 14:42:29 No.5477937 Report

Quoted By: >>5477942

>>5477933
Possibly, but it'll probably take more than that to cure him of his hazaar mindset. The issue at hand here is his long memories - if this was done on a normal hazaar while it was small and it was raised jaxtian, it would certainly have grown up normally.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sun 27 Nov 2022 14:45:44 No.5477942 Report

Quoted By: >>5477944

>>5477937
Wrong, the issue is he never had any time to develop as a Jaxian before letting his libido take over. Cijan and Jale will teach him da way.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fqNoalZi Sun 27 Nov 2022 14:48:54 No.5477944 Report

Quoted By: >>5477949

>>5477942
Ehh....it depends on whether we see any continuation. It could just be a quick fix and he just hasn't gotten the chance, or it could take some more effort to get him to go past those two hundred years of being a hazaar.

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sun 27 Nov 2022 14:52:07 No.5477947 Report

Quoted By:

>>5477929
I remembered the exact comic you were talking about when you mentioned it in the previous. Pretty in-line with this quest honestly.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sun 27 Nov 2022 14:54:27 No.5477949 Report

Quoted By: >>5477951

>>5477944
I think it’ll be a quick fix. The Life Machine is a medical miracle, it can cure and prevent mental illness, it seems silly that it can’t ‘fix’ previous experience with a bit of natural instinct. It fixed Jale’s PTSD after all.

Tbh, I’m sorta of wondering how the other Val is doing.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fqNoalZi Sun 27 Nov 2022 14:58:55 No.5477951 Report

Quoted By: >>5477957

>>5477949
>s, it seems silly that it can’t ‘fix’ previous experience with a bit of natural instinct
The question is more so whether or not his natural instincts can override his personal memories, given the sheer amount of them he has.
>Tbh, I’m sorta of wondering how the other Val is doing.
If he's not chosen, probably relieved he won't have to work as an overseer with his psycho son.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sun 27 Nov 2022 15:05:19 No.5477957 Report

Quoted By: >>5477963 >>5478036

>>5477951
Only one way to find out.

Also, I meant Captain Val. This brings up an interesting point though, considering the Val family seems to be a Navy-focused one. Maybe if we give Father Val the Overseer positions, would that be enough to unlock the Battleships construction?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sun 27 Nov 2022 15:07:24 No.5477959 Report

Quoted By:

>>5477893
Ah, right... Yeah, that makes sense. Dude had a massive crush on Eoba II.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fqNoalZi Sun 27 Nov 2022 15:14:52 No.5477963 Report

Quoted By:

>>5477957
Good point....
>>5477869
Changing to Telaan Val so we can get more cruisers. Mann Yum feels like he'd be pretty good as an general infrastructure guy, though...it would be a shame to waste an logistic autist on a menial job. Maybe have him assisst Telaan Val.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Buc70O7K Sun 27 Nov 2022 15:18:53 No.5477964 Report

Quoted By:

>>5477481
>>Clok Garastra

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Sun 27 Nov 2022 17:14:33 No.5478036 Report

Quoted By: >>5478573

>>5477497
>>5477957

Then why vote for Clok?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:l5B0crVZ Sun 27 Nov 2022 17:29:19 No.5478047 Report

Quoted By:

>>5477893
He needs shock therapy

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Sun 27 Nov 2022 18:26:35 No.5478097 Report

Quoted By: >>5478103

>>5477893
Should have made Bluey into a 'Her', as a Haazar there was no set sex so we could have gone either way with the machine.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fqNoalZi Sun 27 Nov 2022 18:35:58 No.5478103 Report

Quoted By:

>>5478097
That would have fucked him up even more

Hazaar are pretty much male, in nature. That's why we call them all like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:If89rmJo Sun 27 Nov 2022 19:00:38 No.5478132 Report

Quoted By: >>5478149 >>5478163 >>5478189

Bluey's issue is he forced himself on someone without consent, not being gay.

Also, why didn't the machine cure Bluey's several mental health issues if it cured Jerax's PTSD?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Sun 27 Nov 2022 19:15:59 No.5478149 Report

Quoted By: >>5478153 >>5478160

>>5478132
>Bluey's issue is he forced himself on someone without consent, not being gay.
I don't think that it's super forbidden or illegal but it's definitely socially unacceptable in the Hegemony.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fqNoalZi Sun 27 Nov 2022 19:17:56 No.5478153 Report

Quoted By: >>5478160 >>5478193

>>5478149
It is illegal, i'm prettt sure, since its basically takimg you away from being an normal reproductive member of society and fostering degeneracy.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sun 27 Nov 2022 19:26:35 No.5478160 Report

Quoted By:

>>5478149
>>5478153
If it's not illegal, we should make it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sun 27 Nov 2022 19:29:54 No.5478163 Report

Quoted By: >>5478168

>>5478132
Pretty sure actual rape is more acceptable than homosexuality in the Hegemony.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:1CWxEGHk Sun 27 Nov 2022 19:38:21 No.5478168 Report

Quoted By: >>5478175

>>5478163
Rape is only acceptable when it's state ordained, pretty sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sun 27 Nov 2022 19:44:08 No.5478175 Report

Quoted By: >>5478177

>>5478168
But does the state EVER order homosexuality? And "Rapist" is among the titles borne by an Unspeakable, but "Gaylord" sure isn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:1CWxEGHk Sun 27 Nov 2022 19:46:13 No.5478177 Report

Quoted By: >>5478189

>>5478175
What are you talking about?

'Only when state ordained' is more acceptable than 'Never'

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sun 27 Nov 2022 19:55:54 No.5478189 Report

Quoted By:

>>5478177
Exactly. Sorry, I'm agreeing: rape is more acceptable. I'm saying Bluey being a bit pushy isn't the problem, as >>5478132 implied: from a Hegemony perspective, it's the gayness.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Sun 27 Nov 2022 19:59:03 No.5478193 Report

Quoted By: >>5478236 >>5478510

>>5478153
Kima's grandmother was afraid of men and she was only raped because of a very special gene, people are pushed out of reproduction often but they're generally not really forced into it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:AlSIT4JP Sun 27 Nov 2022 21:02:59 No.5478236 Report

Quoted By: >>5478510

>>5478193
She was afraid of men, not an active faggot. There's a difference.

Either way, its pointless, the end is that Bluey doesnt know how to be a jaxtian, and someone needs to teach him.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Mon 28 Nov 2022 01:07:15 No.5478510 Report

Quoted By:

>>5478193
What >>5478236 said. I don't hate gay people, but Akule did (so much so that he killed his adoptive brother and best friend, who he otherwise seemed to like, and mocked his memory). What Akule hated, the Hegemony hates by default.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:R+TEbUTm Mon 28 Nov 2022 01:41:27 No.5478545 Report

Quoted By: >>5478556 >>5478575

>People have such poor reading comprehension they actually think Akule killed Brun "because he was gay".

I share a board with these people.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:yu9dPlSL Mon 28 Nov 2022 01:49:00 No.5478556 Report

Quoted By:

>>5478545
One guy does

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:If89rmJo Mon 28 Nov 2022 01:52:16 No.5478557 Report

Quoted By: >>5478866

I was in the thread, he killed him for several reasons but he still hates gay people.

But in all seriousness this game isn't really fun anymore. It's become less Sid Meir 4X and more about RPing as increasingly unpleasant people. I go to /qst/ for fun, not to play "rape/kill minorites/conversion therapy sim 3000."

I really hope we move away from this direction this thread

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Mon 28 Nov 2022 02:06:15 No.5478573 Report

Quoted By:

>>5478036
Cause I think Driven and Gifted would be more useful overall desu.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Mon 28 Nov 2022 02:09:35 No.5478575 Report

Quoted By:

>>5478545
He killed him for a couple reasons. While dueling him Akule had an inenr monologue including an aside about "deviant homosexual revisionists". He then mocked Brun to his father after killing him for being a 'faggot", though, which was rather cruel. The rich and hypocritical liberal caricature Akule assassinated was also a "champion of homosexual rights."

As early as Thread 2, it was indicated that homosexual ideas weren't mainstream, and we drove them further to the fringes to increase population growth (this was before the Hegemony was characterized as being as brutal as it is now, presumably because of all the liberalization which had snuck in since Akule's era, and which Wrix just reset).

I am willing to bet homosexuality is a criminal deviance in Wrix's Hegemony, if for no other reason than it fails to serve the state and provides an escape from standard male duties and female duties without producing anything of value for the state.

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Mon 28 Nov 2022 02:47:36 No.5478609 Report

Quoted By: >>5478903

You've decided that Mann Yumm should take up the position. He's a bit of a bore, but you figure safe and predictable is what you need for an infrastructural and ecology minded Overseer.

“Wow, thank you my Lord! I never expected to be promoted to such a high position.”
“I demand excellence. You can provide it.”
”And I shall. I will build you the greatest cities- especially on the newly conquered worlds!”
“We could be thrusted into war any second, Mann. Civic planning during a war...?”
”An army marches on its finances!”

While it is true that the past 15 years have taken up a majority of your time as the Supreme Ruler on your genocide crusade; it is not true that everything else has been stagnant. The Nan shipyards are a megastructural feat of engineering that Cijan accomplished during his reign. Using Azurium to create giant starship construction platforms, as well as Baalathi who are “conscripted” to work with different gas concentrations, this single system has produced all of your empires most powerful ships; every cruiser was made here. Your father even oversaw the Bite of Batool, your current most powerful ship. Part of the reason Cijan was so criticized was because he took all of the most powerful Hegemony ships on his vanity mission...

Over these past few years, new cruisers have been produced to fill out your fleet. Your space force is now quite powerful, though you still don't have any battleships, only minor armor improvements, and no special weapons that put you a cut above the standardized PEW weapons that most empires in space will likely employ in the future. Your ships are practically immune to boarding parties however, with your highly advanced and decked out infantry forces...

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Mon 28 Nov 2022 02:48:38 No.5478610 Report

Quoted By: >>5478634

Halfway across the Hegemony, you are now Hojin Ampa, and you have a very important job.

Your family was never especially highly regarded in the Hegemony. Most of your fathers and his fathers talents were making good “gut” choices, examining data and seeing trends others don't, and taking big risks that eventually pay off. It lacks the high level thinking and physical excellence that the Hegemony craves for its leadership and actually high status positions; meaning you've always been pretty middle of the road. Not that you're complaining, all according to what one has earned, right?

You current live on Andoen. The tomb-world of a race of giants. The gravity here is lower then the Hegemonic standard; leading to a feeling of weightlessness when climbing and walking. It's nice- and helps explain why there are so many Alpha males here. Though you know that isn't the real reason. In the rest of the Hegemony, about one in every eight to ten men are Alpha males, but here? It's closer to half! That's because this plant is the closest in the Hegemony to the Esaal, the current biggest threat to your collective. All these alpha males are soldiers, training with weapons and Wrix's new scary black armor. They're all deadly killers. But you have a job more important then all of them.

You are the Space Monitor for this entire planet. You only have one job; study what approaches the planet and make sure it looks right. If you see a ships or weapons approaching; you can only do one thing- sound the alarm. All has been quiet for the past several years on this job- until today. Your AI assistant alerts your attention.

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Mon 28 Nov 2022 02:49:54 No.5478611 Report

Quoted By: >>5478618 >>5478623 >>5478635 >>5478641 >>5478645 >>5478677 >>5478685 >>5478689 >>5478690 >>5478692 >>5478709 >>5478784 >>5478853 >>5478860 >>5478888 >>5478903 >>5478926 >>5479045

“Monitor. Action needed.”
”What is it?”
“Anomaly detected. Approaching at sub-light speeds.”
”What is it?”
“Currently unknown. Relaying data now. Object mass is within known ranges of spaceships, but no ship signal is being emitted. No communications devices, nor computer systems that can be pinged to confirm identity.”
”Other likely possibilities?”
“Asteroid or grouping of gas. These will burn up harmlessly in atmosphere at this size. Caution. Momentum is not congruent with gravity pull of planet, hence why this is an anomaly.”
”Okay, so what is it then?! Visual data?!”
“Unknown. No visual contact. Sound alarm?”

The computer here is asking for your imput now. It has no more useful information to give you. So if it doesn't seem to be a starship, then it has to be space junk, but its space junk that acts strangely. It has the gravity of an object with mass but isn't obeying normal gravity rules. No wonder the AI is asking you for advice here. You need to go with your gut.

Truth be told, you've been thankful every day you haven't had to make a decision like this. The truth is that sounding the alarm willy-nilly sounds easy for this job, but it isn't. You are the space monitor for the entire planet. If you sound the alarm, the citizens on this planet, including your own wife and child, will run to cover in the nearest bombardment shelter. It's what you were put here to do. Naturally, you could save so many people by giving them a warning in advance. But it isn't that simple; sounding an alarm when it isn't needed is going to fuck everything up. Imagine how many people that would impact; billions of people having their daily schedule interrupted. All those soldiers in training, all those business people and factory workers and AI managers doing things; any disruption from a false alarm will cost billions of DM to the government. And very likely, a harsh punishment or replacement to the monitor who falsely sounded the alert!

Wrix is no longer the Unspeakable. You wouldn't fear for your life the same way if you made a single mistake in your position now, but that doesn't make a mistake any less costly. You don't want to screw up, but even the AI can't make a call here. What's the right call? Is there any reason to believe the Esaal are behind this? What should you do?

>Sound Alarm
>Give All-Clear

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:PrUjHNX0 Mon 28 Nov 2022 02:55:54 No.5478618 Report

Quoted By:

>>5478611
>Sound Alarm
Lives are worth more than convenience or danbomarks.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Mon 28 Nov 2022 02:57:54 No.5478623 Report

Quoted By:

>>5478611
>Sound Alarm
Better safe than sorry.

Indonesian Gentleman

Indonesian Gentleman ID:907VRJvj Mon 28 Nov 2022 03:13:04 No.5478634 Report

Quoted By:

>>5478610
>Sound the alarm
Gotta be ready to take one for the team if we're wrong, but that is a risk we're willing to take.
After all, a temporary pause in production is preferred to a permanent halt in production because your colony got razed.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Mon 28 Nov 2022 03:18:28 No.5478635 Report

Quoted By:

>>5478611
>Sound Alarm
doesn't have to be the Esaal, it could be someone else, and this is a very explainable situation

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:R+TEbUTm Mon 28 Nov 2022 03:40:14 No.5478641 Report

Quoted By:

You guys seriously didn't learn from the Akule thread?

>>5478611
>Give All-Clear

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:If89rmJo Mon 28 Nov 2022 03:42:48 No.5478644 Report

Quoted By: >>5478648

This is another of BQM's puzzles. We have a picture and there isn't a write in option. That leads me to believe some clue is teing us if it is danger or not.

Let us study the image for the right answer.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:9iqwhba0 Mon 28 Nov 2022 03:44:02 No.5478645 Report

Quoted By:

>>5478611
>>Sound Alarm

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Mon 28 Nov 2022 03:49:22 No.5478648 Report

Quoted By: >>5478667

>>5478644
I bumped up the brightness and didn't find anything hidden in the sky. Not sure how to interpret the pink cloudy things. Also not sure how to conclusively *disprove* there being anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:If89rmJo Mon 28 Nov 2022 04:11:59 No.5478667 Report

Quoted By:

>>5478648
I see Gas. Gas was one of the false alarm options.

My best guess is

>Don't sound the alarm
But I am open to more intel

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Mon 28 Nov 2022 04:18:02 No.5478677 Report

Quoted By: >>5478685 >>5478689 >>5478726 >>5478903

>>5478611
>Sound the alarm

Sounds like space whales to me. There is a single pink star amidst all the yellow stars if that matters to anyone. I don't have my Jaxtian cosmology charts to hand to know if there's a reason for it. The pink star is above the white clouds hovering above the right edge of the planet. That said, we don't have visuals on this object, and we aren't going to see something with our eyes that Friend Computer and our presumed visual spotters can't see with their instruments. A jedi Hojin is not, despite knowing how to trust his instincts.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Mon 28 Nov 2022 04:19:23 No.5478678 Report

Quoted By:

If it's gas, then it's probably our pink gassy space virus friends.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Mon 28 Nov 2022 04:24:02 No.5478685 Report

Quoted By:

>>5478611
>Sound Alarm

>>5478677
Fug, you're totally right. Here's the stars colorpicked for anybody not seeing it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Mon 28 Nov 2022 04:25:13 No.5478689 Report

Quoted By: >>5478722 >>5478729 >>5478860 >>5478903

>>5478611
>Sound Alarm

>>5478677
Fug, you're totally right. Here's the stars colorpicked for anybody not seeing it-- definitely something sketchy.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Zbp5aNTF Mon 28 Nov 2022 04:25:13 No.5478690 Report

Quoted By:

>>5478611
>>Sound Alarm

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5EFZTadZ Mon 28 Nov 2022 04:27:26 No.5478692 Report

Quoted By:

>>5478611
>Sound alarm

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Mon 28 Nov 2022 04:52:30 No.5478709 Report

Quoted By:

>>5478611
>Sound Alarm

Could be BAG pocket in an asteroid or a weapon with an unusual payload. Sus.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:If89rmJo Mon 28 Nov 2022 05:09:37 No.5478722 Report

Quoted By: >>5478726 >>5478860

>>5478689
It's fucking wild that BQM felt a clue that subtle was solvable and fucking wilder than you solved it anyway.

>Sound the alarm

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Mon 28 Nov 2022 05:13:43 No.5478726 Report

Quoted By:

>>5478722
I can't take the credit, >>5478677 solved it. But yeah, crazy stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:9iqwhba0 Mon 28 Nov 2022 05:26:28 No.5478729 Report

Quoted By:

>>5478689

FUUUGGG MY PISS POOR EYES MISSED THAT ONE AAAaaaaAAAHHHH

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Mon 28 Nov 2022 06:15:51 No.5478784 Report

Quoted By:

>>5478611
>Sound Alarm

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Mon 28 Nov 2022 07:45:29 No.5478853 Report

Quoted By:

>>5478611
>Sound Alarm

Whatever this is, it is weird. And weird definitely merits an alarm on the front lines. It may perhaps end up as an inaccurate one, but this definitely won't be a false alarm.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Mon 28 Nov 2022 07:55:05 No.5478860 Report

Quoted By: >>5478866 >>5478904

>>5478611
>>5478689
>>5478722
If it is the Space Whales, what even is the answer here? They've visited Andoen before, indeed we first saw one here. Are they a situation that merits an alarm, or not? They're massive, and won't obey shipping lanes - so orbital traffic will still need to be alerted at the very least.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Mon 28 Nov 2022 08:12:43 No.5478866 Report

Quoted By:

>>5478860
And it may need help (if we're still wont to render it in our current super-xenophobic state), so letting people know to clear the way and be ready to make contact isn't a bad idea.

>>5478557
Man, remember when we befriended whales?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:l5B0crVZ Mon 28 Nov 2022 09:11:41 No.5478888 Report

Quoted By:

>>5478611
>>Give All-Clear

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Mon 28 Nov 2022 09:34:18 No.5478903 Report

Quoted By:

>>5478609
>Part of the reason Cijan was so criticized was because he took all of the most powerful Hegemony ships on his vanity mission...
Compared to your vanity project Wrix? lol

>Your space force is now quite powerful, though you still don't have any battleships, only minor armor improvements, and no special weapons that put you a cut above the standardized PEW weapons that most empires in space will likely employ in the future
So quite literally garbage? This is like saying the wooden sailing ships are totally powerful when compared to fucking battleship-sized ironclads.

>>5478611
>Give All-Clear
Probably a space whale then. Send out the ships, but don’t cause a scare. If this was an invasion there would be literal fleets of them.

>>5478677
If you really want a puzzle, there’s an abnormal star that doesn’t look circular. Have find finding which one that is.

>>5478689
Half the battle done, now contrast the color with known spaceship/space whale colors and see what come out of it. Remember, color coding could mean the difference of billions here.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Mon 28 Nov 2022 09:36:23 No.5478904 Report

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>>5478860
Does the space whales have weapons? It isn’t in danger of attacking the planet, so the alarm shouldn’t be raised- just notify the local naval detachment to de-worm the whale before exporting it to greener pastures.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ub8HAYbW Mon 28 Nov 2022 10:03:07 No.5478926 Report

Quoted By: >>5479609

>>5478611
>Sound the alarm
Pink star gay

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Buc70O7K Mon 28 Nov 2022 14:20:16 No.5479045 Report

Quoted By:

>>5478611
>>Sound Alarm
WOOOOOOP WOOOOOOP

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Mon 28 Nov 2022 15:23:37 No.5479090 Report

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”Hold on, I don't buy this... Computer, end all other monitoring processes and give me the computer cycles. I need more information on this object.”
“This monitoring station is also tasked with monitoring weather patterns and asteroid impacts, as well as other celestial objects and anomalies in the system. Commandeering the computer system may cause these other systems harm. I will not withhold this command from your superior in the event something goes wrong.”
”Just do it! Zoom in on the object; is this it? This red thing?”
“Affirmative.”
”So it isn't moving away from us? It's not red shifting?”
“No, color correction has already been applied.”
”Oh shi- NO WAY! That is RED! The Esaal have red battleships! This is an Esaal warship for sure! Computer, sound the alarm!”

While the computer wasn't quite ready to make a positive ID on the approaching object, your gut went with Esaal. You decide to sound the alert. All over the entire planet of Andoen, billions of Jaxtians have their normal lives and schedules interrupted by blaring alerts and calls for immediate evacuations. People in cities, military bases, and the country are packed into the nearest shelters. These places are designed up to the worst possible catastrophe- a nuclear strike. They await in silence at the emergency alert- only to be shown confirmation.

It WAS an Esaal ship! Somehow, a spaceship that totally avoided any of the tell-tale signs of detection. No radiation from emissions, no computer signals or networking signals- nothing! It was like a rock floating through space. Yet somehow this craft didn't pick up at all on your detection systems. It's some kind of stealth vessel!

”ATTENTION!” The voice rings out over the largest city on Andoen, built among the ruins of the alien civilization that once lived here. The ship itself is broadcasting the sound waves directly; as though for dramatic effect.

”This is Flight-Commander Twopunch- In charge of the Esaal Dark-Ship 919-J. I bring an important message from Ess, our homeworld.”

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Mon 28 Nov 2022 15:24:49 No.5479091 Report

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”FUCK YOU! FIRE ALL WEAPONS! DEPLOY CANNISTERS!”

With that, the Dark-Ship, a Crusier-Class vessel, begins to unleash a firestorm of plasma down on the city- blowing up buildings and scorching nearby fields and orchards with its hot plasma cannons. At the same time; dull metal canisters begin to fire out from the ship and launch themselves like missile payloads all over the planet. The AI scrambles to interrupt their flight paths to steer them away from civilian areas and towards the still-active static defense turrets on Andoen to hopefully shoot them down. Your own static defense weapons take a few potshots at the enemy ship- but its tough Azurium-enriched armor does very little.

Because of your actions of sounding the alarm, everyone had enough warning to get to shelter, including Jale Berax and his squad of Death Commandos- who were training just outside the city before the alert went off.

Once it has finished destroying a decent amount of the city, and all of the big crusiers canisters have been launched, it quickly turns tail and runs. The Hegemony's vessels are supposed to be faster then the Esaal, so your nearby cruisers move to intercept- but once the ship slips away from the planet and reengages its stealth ability- the targeting computers and pilots quickly lose track of them. The Migrators are pushed to find the fleeing vessel, but cannot use Starsight quick enough to locate the fleeing ship- it gets away.

Worse yet are the payloads. All around Anoden, the canisters are shot down or break open on their own; unfortunately that does not stop what is within them. Each cannister was packed full of some kind of powdered metal substance. Later, the Hegemony's scientists figure out how it works. It's a metal that is very light and can be carried by the wind, but once it touches water it polarizes very strongly. This causes it turn into deadly microscopic spikes- the main danger being if it is breathed in or worse yet exposed to any open wounds or cuts. The metal reacts so strongly to water it can actually shatter or shoot off little splines that can pierce blood vessels- causing further internal damage. And once it dries out? It turns soft again, letting it travel and infect new people. It can even be carried by the bloodstream into the heart or other organs. Its a brutal and deadly contaminant to any large-bodied animal... including a Jaxtian.

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Mon 28 Nov 2022 15:27:18 No.5479092 Report

Quoted By: >>5479107 >>5479109 >>5479113 >>5479142 >>5479146 >>5479159 >>5479179 >>5479183 >>5479185 >>5479186 >>5479193 >>5479215 >>5479309 >>5479318 >>5479343 >>5479364 >>5479407 >>5479609 >>5479799

“...For your actions, Hojin Ampa, I award you with a Golden Band on your right arm, to signify your wisdom and success in defense of the homeland.”
”T-Thank you, your Majesty! But I was only doing my job.”
“No no. Ever since I put on the Mask of the Unspeakable, this empire has been too full of spineless cowards to afraid to make a decision. I want this man treated to a housing class upgrade. And buy his wife some of the most exotic fabrics and spices from the HVS- sponged from my account, of course.”

Wow, a Golden Band! Nobody in the Ampa family has ever earned one of these before. You thought it was too far above your “station”, but looks like you got a chance to prove yourself...

You are back to being Wrix Val again, and you are currently dealing with the fallout of the Andoen attack.

The planet was attacked by a “Dark Ship”, some sort of Esaal stealth cruiser. Their original attack against the city was designed to take as many lives and do as much damage to the Hegemony's control center and administration there, but because of the early warning, almost no Jaxtian lives were lost. Andoen is your current staging-ground in your preparation for war against the Esaal, so if they got a good bombing run they could have killed hundreds, if not thousands of troops and civilians vital to the war effort.

But worst yet was the anti-personnel nature of this attack. The ship alone could only do so much damage- The real threat were the canisters and their payloads; which would kill any Jaxtian outside and destroy any native wildlife- if this planet had any. This attack was meant to kill as many people as possible, indiscriminately. This weird metal weapon the Esaal use is being cautiously named “Water Barbs” and is a new terror weapon that you have to be on the lookout for. Even a light dusting of the stuff can kill, and it can spread into water- both the ocean and rivers on Andoen are now polluted with microscopic barbs everywhere. Cleanup is going to be a real headache. The Esaal have just dropped this, and the surprise attack, directly on the doorstep of your empire.

What are you going to do about it?
>Prepare for an immediate counterattack
>Spend time and resources deep-cleaning Andoen from the containment (Expensive)
>Gather intelligence on the Esaal
>Make a Vow (Specify)
>Other? (Write In)

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Anonymous ID:If89rmJo Mon 28 Nov 2022 15:50:18 No.5479104 Report

Quoted By: >>5479107 >>5479109 >>5479118 >>5479132 >>5479142

Ok Write-In means there is a secret menu option.

>Name Hojin as your successor and retire.

Wrix is tired of leading and I like this new Hojin character.

Give Hojin a few a years as a second in command before transferring power.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Mon 28 Nov 2022 15:52:25 No.5479107 Report

Quoted By: >>5479109 >>5479132 >>5479318

>>5479092
>>5479104
Support this wholeheartedly!

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:W+LJzz1n Mon 28 Nov 2022 15:54:39 No.5479109 Report

Quoted By:

>>5479092
>Gather intelligence on the Esaal

>>5479104
>>5479107

That isn't how this works at all....

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Mon 28 Nov 2022 15:57:32 No.5479113 Report

Quoted By: >>5479118

>>5479092
>Gather intelligence on the Esaal
>Replace the City Planner with our Ship-building father
>Fake weakness, make it look like the attack was hyper effective and that the time to strike Andoen is now
The plan is to make them overextend into our space, and get them bogged down in a ground battle where we can win effectively against them. Trap them with their own pig-headed ego and pride.

Maybe the Baal and Father Val can combine forces to create something a tad more useful for naval warfare?

Also, obligatory write in section. Make sure there isn’t a secret we can exploit.

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Mon 28 Nov 2022 16:01:30 No.5479118 Report

Quoted By: >>5479120 >>5479122 >>5479123

>>5479104
>>5479113
Not everything in this game is a secret or a puzzle. Sometimes it's just a choice you can make.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Mon 28 Nov 2022 16:04:50 No.5479120 Report

Quoted By: >>5479122

>>5479118
Yea, but having a trigger will make us more alert for when there are secrets to find. Chances are that this only improves our odds of secret-finding up to 35-40%, which mean we have a small chance instead of a snowball’s chance in hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:If89rmJo Mon 28 Nov 2022 16:07:03 No.5479122 Report

Quoted By: >>5479124

>>5479118

BQM said explicitly in the last thread that if they give us a Write-In that means there is a secret hidden option
>>5479120

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Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Mon 28 Nov 2022 16:07:43 No.5479123 Report

Quoted By:

>>5479118
A choice like Wrix choosing a successor and retiring?

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Mon 28 Nov 2022 16:09:18 No.5479124 Report

Quoted By:

>>5479122
Most observant Space Monke player

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Anonymous ID:If89rmJo Mon 28 Nov 2022 16:11:46 No.5479127 Report

Quoted By:

Looking at the last thread it seems BQM didn't actually write the
Write-in=hint post

No matter then. I still support playing as Supreme Hojin.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Mon 28 Nov 2022 16:23:45 No.5479132 Report

Quoted By:

>>5479104
>>5479107
Not to shut down your little meme rebellion here, but it’s never going to happen.

It’ll be a Garastra, in the library, with a candle stick.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Mon 28 Nov 2022 16:33:44 No.5479142 Report

Quoted By:

>>5479092
>Gather intelligence on the Esaal
>>5479104
Hojin is cool but wildly underqualified.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Mon 28 Nov 2022 16:42:03 No.5479146 Report

Quoted By:

>>5479092
>Gather intelligence on the Esaal

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Yj7uu/Xn Mon 28 Nov 2022 16:51:41 No.5479159 Report

Quoted By:

>>5479092
>Gather intelligence on the Esaal
We need to get more fuckin ships, we are WILDLY underprepared

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Yj7uu/Xn Mon 28 Nov 2022 16:55:08 No.5479164 Report

Quoted By: >>5479167

Also, while Hojin is a horrible choice we SHOULD begin looking for an successor

Wrix is clearly tired. We need someone young and energetic.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Mon 28 Nov 2022 17:04:13 No.5479167 Report

Quoted By:

>>5479164
Support.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Mon 28 Nov 2022 17:18:08 No.5479179 Report

Quoted By: >>5479343 >>5479609 >>5479614 >>5479925

>>5479092
>Make a Vow (Specify)

"The Esaal use their bases in the Baalathi cluster to strike against Jaxtian worlds and the Hegemony itself. This is unforgivable. I hereby VOW that before my reign is complete I will drive them back from the Baalathi worlds and secure them as the new borders of the Hegemony!"

Using this Vow:
>Gather intelligence on the Esaal
>Spend time and resources deep-cleaning Andoen from the containment (Expensive)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:IPxqdxwW Mon 28 Nov 2022 17:19:23 No.5479183 Report

Quoted By: >>5479185

>>5479092
We clearly are unprepared for the esaal if they have stealth technology that we can’t counter. We need ways to deal with it and more information on any other fancy toys they have.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:IPxqdxwW Mon 28 Nov 2022 17:20:36 No.5479185 Report

Quoted By:

>>5479092
>>5479183
>Gather intelligence on the Esaal

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:J2HZeeVO Mon 28 Nov 2022 17:21:07 No.5479186 Report

Quoted By:

>>5479092
>Gather intelligence on the Esaal
>Look into options for successors
Hojin does not have Supreme-level genetics or training, he's a cool guy but a dumb pick. There's nothing stopping us from looking at our actual options, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Mon 28 Nov 2022 17:31:50 No.5479193 Report

Quoted By:

>>5479092
"That was an impressive bit of work, getting computing power from other systems to enable you to zoom in and confirm your suspicions."
> Have Hojin Ampa work with experts to upgrade Space Monitor systems all over the Hegemony so other Planet Monotors can easily do the same... and more. The next time we'll see the Essal coming and attack before they enter the atmosphere.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:l5B0crVZ Mon 28 Nov 2022 17:48:31 No.5479215 Report

Quoted By: >>5479264

>>5479092
>>Make a Vow (Specify)
Swear retribution on the Esaal

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Mon 28 Nov 2022 18:55:37 No.5479264 Report

Quoted By:

>>5479215
I think vows need to be specific, measurable, and suitably-grandiose in objective. Like "push back the Esaal from all adjacent star-clusters and take their planets for ourselves" or "kill 10 billion Esaal" or something that we can demonstrably succeed or fail at by the end of Wrix's rule.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ZynQOMV8 Mon 28 Nov 2022 19:59:01 No.5479309 Report

Quoted By: >>5479483

>>5479092
>Gather intelligence on the Esaal
>Look into options for successors

We can’t go in blind - especially if they have stealth tech

I also like the idea of ensuring the succession is steady

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:pUjW10bu Mon 28 Nov 2022 20:02:17 No.5479314 Report

Quoted By: >>5479365

who gave the esaal their stealth tech? Somehow, I doubt they made it on their own

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Mon 28 Nov 2022 20:02:50 No.5479318 Report

Quoted By:

>>5479092
>>5479107
I'll change my vote to
>Gather intelligence on the Esaal
>Look into options for successors

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:txZ/TtMq Mon 28 Nov 2022 21:03:41 No.5479343 Report

Quoted By:

>>5479092
>>5479179
support

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Mon 28 Nov 2022 21:44:22 No.5479364 Report

Quoted By:

>>5479092
>Gather intelligence on the Esaal
>Look into options for successors

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Yj7uu/Xn Mon 28 Nov 2022 21:45:52 No.5479365 Report

Quoted By:

>>5479314
The Worms, probably

The Esaal and the Consortium are 'worm puppets' in the sense that they, much like us before we discovered starsight, rely on worms and their psychic abilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ZrswqMhd Mon 28 Nov 2022 22:46:59 No.5479407 Report

Quoted By:

>>5479092
>Gather intelligence on the Esaal

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Tue 29 Nov 2022 00:13:16 No.5479483 Report

Quoted By:

>>5479309
That’s simple- either Clok or Cijan

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:gMEebR/L Tue 29 Nov 2022 00:18:44 No.5479488 Report

Quoted By: >>5479498

>Gather intelligence on the Esaal.

Also, Hojin and his family have an amazing track record dependent on "hunches." And given this is a universe where starsight is a thing....

>Gather genetic samples and brain scanners of the Ampa family line, to see if this "gut feeling" has a scientific and hereditary explanation.

And also,
>See if there is any of extinct alien technology that can help clean the enviroment faster.

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Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Tue 29 Nov 2022 00:30:17 No.5479496 Report

Quoted By: >>5479499

Are these microspheres magnetic? If so, it shouldn't be that hard to clean them up. Just sweep with magnets. Make the young alphas wear magnetic diving suits when out training.

On that note Azurium is magnetic, so a magneto scanner should be able to detect these stealth ships, and magneto-tractor beams should be able to hold them so that we can board. Embrace the miracle of magnets.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Tue 29 Nov 2022 00:30:58 No.5479498 Report

Quoted By:

>>5479488
Nah senpai, it’ll be an expensive, time consuming process that we may never get started on. It’s just the way of things in this quest.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Tue 29 Nov 2022 00:31:59 No.5479499 Report

Quoted By: >>5479504

>>5479496
Or a dedicated Starsight monke looking for the Esaal.

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Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Tue 29 Nov 2022 00:38:58 No.5479504 Report

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>>5479499
Friend Computer loves you and will carry your magneto burden for you. Rest your weary eyes star-man and enjoy the wonders of the sky.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Wppp5q2D Tue 29 Nov 2022 01:49:05 No.5479609 Report

Quoted By: >>5484593

>>5479092
>>5479179
+1 to this Voew
t.>>5478926

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Tue 29 Nov 2022 01:56:03 No.5479614 Report

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>>5479179
Anon, doing the Expensive option is likely to cuck our research efforts in a time of war. What we need to do is get the Essal bogged down on Andoen while the environment is hostile.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:NhHJw4sk Tue 29 Nov 2022 02:46:53 No.5479680 Report

Quoted By:

It turns out, a nation that hasn’t spend a decade and change treating itself to shreds can develop some extremely impressive armaments.

>Gather intelligence on the Esaal
>Look into options for successors

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WhDn4ta2 Tue 29 Nov 2022 05:34:35 No.5479799 Report

Quoted By: >>5479829

>>5479092
>Gather intelligence on the Esaal
On the one hand I wouldn't put it padt the Essal to do this as a "proportionate" response to our attack on their civilian base during the crusade.

On the other hand it feels almost too sneaky for the Essal and could be a Consortium false flag operation.

On yet another hand, it's not like either side needs to be duped into going to war. The Essal already hate us, they could already be in bed with the Consortium in regards to screwing us over.

The only real question here is whether we're gonna have a cold war or a hot war. And to answer that we need to know more.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Tue 29 Nov 2022 06:08:01 No.5479829 Report

Quoted By: >>5479835

>>5479799
I thought Esaal didn't believe in the concept of civilians or noncombatants?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WhDn4ta2 Tue 29 Nov 2022 06:16:33 No.5479835 Report

Quoted By:

>>5479829
They don't but that doesn't really change much. We hit them so now they've hit us back.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:1Hwefmcm Tue 29 Nov 2022 09:24:47 No.5479925 Report

Quoted By: >>5480129 >>5480339

>>5479179
+1
It took a couple days, but I'm finally caught up. I'd say some stuff but I'm sure people don't want some random newfag clogging up the thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fUHQKqlf Tue 29 Nov 2022 12:21:50 No.5479974 Report

Quoted By: >>5479982 >>5479986 >>5480122 >>5482228

QM got jannied and will be unable to update for a little while.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Tue 29 Nov 2022 12:47:55 No.5479982 Report

Quoted By:

>>5479974
Fucking jannies. I wish you the best Bananas.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:URnkYaap Tue 29 Nov 2022 12:51:44 No.5479986 Report

Quoted By: >>5480201

>>5479974
Damn

Can't someone update it for him?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:pcAaHicW Tue 29 Nov 2022 15:47:30 No.5480122 Report

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>>5479974
...why?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:OgJpKzht Tue 29 Nov 2022 15:57:30 No.5480129 Report

Quoted By: >>5480350

>>5479925
You could probably condense it to one or two posts.

Seems like we'll be waiting a while, anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Z5SEhPuQ Tue 29 Nov 2022 17:53:31 No.5480201 Report

Quoted By: >>5492625

>>5479986
+1

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:w1doXQji Tue 29 Nov 2022 20:26:33 No.5480339 Report

Quoted By:

>>5479925
I'm interested, Anon. I sometimes wonder if there are people who read this quest with a literary background and if so if there is some super deep themes that Bananas is hiding in the threads the unenlightened normies wouldn't get.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Tue 29 Nov 2022 20:35:28 No.5480345 Report

Quoted By: >>5480519

Wait a second. That guy who kept claiming he had a whole essay stored up about Bananas misreading the players never posted the essay. I'm waiting!!!!!

Also F for Bananas.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:UoMo6/go Tue 29 Nov 2022 20:44:09 No.5480350 Report

Quoted By: >>5480359 >>5480367

>>5480129
I'll just make it as short as I can while getting the main points across. Overall, I enjoyed the quest. Everybody's come a long way since then, though I mostly only read the QM's posts and skipped Akule's sidestory since I wasn't into it. The tailor was right about something being rotten in the Hegemony, but maybe not what we think. The early rulers were more about game-like advancement in a simple fun way. Then the first sidestory hit and I think that's where everything changed for both better and worse. Some bits I really enjoyed despite there being flaws, like Kima, and others seemed like pointless philosophical identical rants, ie. the vetuck genetic abortion ministory. Even if some choices always end up in the death of some either way, like the mother and her unborn child, I feel like there's a bigger problem. While Wrix is kind of resetting things to the way they used to be I also realize there was something wrong with what we were. The Hegemony will never be a true facist dictatorship like most people may want. Ironically, the Hegemony is more democratic then any other civ there will be in the story. Decisions are made not by one man, but a majority vote authorized by someone who tries to make the story enjoyable for multiple people. Maybe the best explanation would be the seat of 500 voices or whatever there name was, (they were basically only mentioned once eith Vantin in thread 1.) controls the Supreme one or Government. Because otherwise random people will be making decisions which seem inconsistent. Some may try to just purely min-max, go for what's most in character, or vote purely for whatever would fuck with everyone the most. I'd say more but this post is already long as it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Tue 29 Nov 2022 20:59:56 No.5480359 Report

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>>5480350
>true facist dictatorship like most people may want
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Anonymous

Anonymous ID:nCf63oBh Tue 29 Nov 2022 21:11:06 No.5480367 Report

Quoted By: >>5480369 >>5480391 >>5480433

>>5480350
Write more, I want to read in-depth analysis of this autism. And it might help Bananas get some insight too. He can't object now.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Tue 29 Nov 2022 21:13:31 No.5480369 Report

Quoted By: >>5480391 >>5480433

>>5480367
Seconded. Write more, it's interesting to see a new perspective.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Tue 29 Nov 2022 21:37:06 No.5480391 Report

Quoted By: >>5480406 >>5480411 >>5480433

>>5480367
>>5480369
Please no. If we fill the thread with shittalking and debate again, BQM may just decide not to come back.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:nCf63oBh Tue 29 Nov 2022 21:45:03 No.5480406 Report

Quoted By:

>>5480391
LMAO
Not everyone is as fragile as you

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Tue 29 Nov 2022 21:48:25 No.5480411 Report

Quoted By:

>>5480391
But there's no shittalking or debate, for once. Just a new guy giving his impressions. Bananas seems to like writing the quest despite the autistic fights that break out all the time, he'll be back.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:my8YLjxc Tue 29 Nov 2022 22:01:33 No.5480428 Report

Quoted By:

Yes, let us use this break to have a book club-style discussion of the quest from an artistic point of view.

Talks like that are actually what got me into 4chan in the first place. (/co/ hypercrisis threads.)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:UoMo6/go Tue 29 Nov 2022 22:03:15 No.5480433 Report

Quoted By: >>5480454

>>5480367
>>5480369
>>5480391
It's been a bit so I post track of where I was going but I'll try to go more into the player base for this post. Even as a newfag who's only binged the QM's posts I can tell that there is a lot of discussion both good and bad. Some genuine arguing about which decisions we should pick while others sperg out more. QM really shouldn't let a couple of people dictate his motivation for storytelling solely because they don't like a couple parts (whether it be for justified reasons or not). It comes with the territory that not everyone is going to like it. Even I can tell that there is a genuine fanbase that wants a good story, whether it be the civ-side or more character driven stuff. I think it may be best to pick one, but it is interesting to see side-content spill into the main story, but it shouldn't overtake it. Also feels like we haven't gotten a lot of wins lately and every alien is out to get us. (The Seers probably being neutral at best.) Since I lost track I'm not sure what I should talk about, and I'm definitely trying to keep senseless arguing to a minimum, but if you want to ask me something about the perspective of a new guy I can answer.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:uXkDJWa+ Tue 29 Nov 2022 22:17:24 No.5480454 Report

Quoted By: >>5480472

>>5480433
>Some may try to just purely min-max, go for what's most in character, or vote purely for whatever would fuck with everyone the most.
I thought you were going to expand on this and the sort of ludonarrative dissonance in dictatorship being driven by vote democracy that you mentioned. I like looking at this type of stuff, although it's a bit disappointing we can't have nice things because fair voting will always lead to chaos. Not sure ludonarrative is correct heere, but you get the point.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:VQmYTG96 Tue 29 Nov 2022 22:35:46 No.5480472 Report

Quoted By: >>5480476 >>5480483 >>5480487

>>5480454
On my PC now so it's a different IP. Yeah I can expand on that but there wouldn't be too much to talk about. Realistically, we can't do much to change the format of it because it's a quest on an anonymous forum where one sane voice is as equally powerful as one who wants to cause mayhem. And even between these same "sane" voices they all have differing values, world views, goals etc. It's pretty much like every quest has its own protag inflicted with schizophrenia. The only way to stay consistent would be for anons to unanimously agree on how they should control the ruler, which is basically impossible. The only way to mitigate this is to have each ruler's personality come out a bit more, like with Talacent refusing genocide and Agori not giving mercy. But then it's also like we have no control at all so why even bother with a quest format?
I thought about making a quest with schizo protag, with each anon canonically being a different voice in their head. But then I thought it would be too meta and gay.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:IPxqdxwW Tue 29 Nov 2022 22:41:56 No.5480476 Report

Quoted By: >>5480483 >>5480493

>>5480472
>with each anon canonically being a different voice in their head
Believe it or not this has been done before

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Tue 29 Nov 2022 22:47:36 No.5480483 Report

Quoted By: >>5480493

>>5480472
>>5480476
It's been done before but I would find it meta and gay, yeah.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:URnkYaap Tue 29 Nov 2022 22:52:08 No.5480487 Report

Quoted By:

>>5480472
meta stuff sucks

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:VQmYTG96 Tue 29 Nov 2022 22:56:29 No.5480493 Report

Quoted By: >>5480501 >>5480502 >>5480504 >>5480507 >>5480528

>>5480476
>>5480483
Yeah, after thinking about it for more than two seconds I already guessed multiple people have probably done it already. It's probably been beaten to death at this point.
It might be best for me to go back to waiting since I don't want to drag the thread too off-topic. To get the thread back on track, any thoughts on Wrix starting off a clean slate?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:URnkYaap Tue 29 Nov 2022 22:59:06 No.5480501 Report

Quoted By: >>5480502 >>5480508

>>5480493
>any thoughts on Wrix starting off a clean slate?
He hasn't?

In fact, we are in the absolute complete opposite of a clean slate. We're still dealing with the fallout of our actions, and will most likely continue to do so until Wrix is dead and this war with the Esaal is over and we're back to our regularly scheduled civilization stuff.

You know, like we used to have, before everything went to hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Tue 29 Nov 2022 23:00:48 No.5480502 Report

Quoted By:

>>5480493
>Wrix starting off a clean slate?
It's not possible. Wrix is too tainted by his actions. Space Stalin doesn't get a clean slate just because that he'll stop the purges from now on. A successor would be better, many people agree with that, but even then we're going to be dealing with the fallout for a long, long time.

>>5480501
>like we used to have, before everything went to hell.
Ha. This hell never ends.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:95k1d9gt Tue 29 Nov 2022 23:00:56 No.5480504 Report

Quoted By:

>>5480493
I like it. Wrix's robe is cool, and exhausted genocidal Supreme worn down by grim "necessities" of office is a neat persona we haven't adopted before. Still excited to be able to pick our successor proper once more, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Tue 29 Nov 2022 23:03:51 No.5480507 Report

Quoted By:

>>5480493
>Wrix starting off a clean slate?
Yeah. He hasn't. And the longer he stays in office the longer the quest is going to be burdened by the events of last thread.

>Ha. This hell never ends.
Don't say that :(

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:VQmYTG96 Tue 29 Nov 2022 23:04:27 No.5480508 Report

Quoted By: >>5480510

>>5480501
I don't mean a totally clean slate. It just feels like to me we are going back into the more civ side of things after all the side-stuff. Even Cijan didn't feel too Civ-y and was only relevant for like one ship battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:URnkYaap Tue 29 Nov 2022 23:05:53 No.5480510 Report

Quoted By: >>5480512

>>5480508
>It just feels like to me we are going back into the more civ side of things after all the side-stuff
Yes, and it's not going to go back until we deal with said side stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:VQmYTG96 Tue 29 Nov 2022 23:09:15 No.5480512 Report

Quoted By:

>>5480510
True. But I feel like it's somewhat of a good step in the right direction? At least with the Esaal attack kicking things off.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Tue 29 Nov 2022 23:14:27 No.5480519 Report

Quoted By: >>5480522

>>5480345
Honestly, was planning on writing in the previous thread to avoid shitting up this one. Had gotten derailed by a family emergency.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Tue 29 Nov 2022 23:16:30 No.5480522 Report

Quoted By: >>5480577 >>5480587

>>5480519
We're in a meta-talk lull in this thread right now anyways, so I think it's a good time. Also, sorry about your family.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID://L56pTZ Tue 29 Nov 2022 23:24:09 No.5480528 Report

Quoted By:

>>5480493
>I don't want to drag the thread too off-topic.
Excuse me but
1. A big part of monke quest is discussing the game (and insulting everyone) ooc
2. Bananas can't post, so talking about off-topic shouldn't be a problem

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Wed 30 Nov 2022 00:14:35 No.5480577 Report

Quoted By:

>>5480522
No problem, I’m just gonna be busy for a bit. I’d like to actually sit down and write out my thoughts instead of trying to cram it all in the a couple phone posts with autocorrect on and a lack off proofreading (may end up happening anyway, I’ll see how it goes).

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Wed 30 Nov 2022 00:26:44 No.5480587 Report

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>>5480522
Also, thanks anon. The worst has passed by now.

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Anonymous ID:UmQprCQO Wed 30 Nov 2022 13:38:54 No.5481039 Report

Quoted By: >>5481241

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Wed 30 Nov 2022 19:47:38 No.5481241 Report

Quoted By: >>5481267

>>5481039
What did that symbol mean to the Blondes?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:LldueLYc Wed 30 Nov 2022 20:26:10 No.5481267 Report

Quoted By:

>>5481241
I would reckon it's religious.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:h98NzSTC Thu 01 Dec 2022 19:31:33 No.5482220 Report

Quoted By: >>5482228

How many days until bananas is free? What did he even get banned for, anyways....

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Thu 01 Dec 2022 19:48:40 No.5482228 Report

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>>5479974
>>5482220

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Fri 02 Dec 2022 01:45:34 No.5482522 Report

Quoted By: >>5482565 >>5482804

Instead of an immediate response to the attack, you decide to gather whatever intelligence you can on the Esaal. Bluey, the current ruler of the HVS and the most diplomatically connected high-level official you have access to, attempts to find a vector for espionage. Unfortunately, he is now a Jaxtian, which means any degree of separation between himself and the Hegemony is now reduced to basically nothing.

”I'm sorry, Master. The Consortium won't sell any spies to me, and the Aristocrats view my new life expectancy as a further drop in their caste system- not that being an outcast mutant “Hazaar” was any better...”

Because of this, you have to gather information the old fashioned way. Several high tech probes are equipped with sensors and transmission data and sent secretly into Esaal and border space; with the intent of gathering whatever intel they can by decoding and monitoring the Esaal's own communications and computer networks. Though this will take a little time...

However, more immediate information on the attack is obvious. Because the Esaal craft attacked on its lonesome, it is highly likely there is a nearby Esaal base in one of the rogue Brown Dwarfs in the border spaces between your two empires. As they are not full stars, they produce little light, but may still have planets or large moons, or just orbital colonies, as a nice gravity well to operate extended missions with.

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Fri 02 Dec 2022 01:47:45 No.5482526 Report

Quoted By: >>5482751

Over the next 5 Years, you gather information and study ever bit of data your probes find on the Esaal Stratocracy.

The Esaal control roughly three star clusters at this point in time, though these clusters seem less rich and with less habitable planets on average then your own. In addition, the Esaal are in constant conflict with their neighbors and space-wildlife. They do not seem to be stockpiling for a conflict with you any more then they do with everyone else. They are currently engaged with border conflicts with a few lesser members of Aristocrat nobility, infestations by liminals, space pirates, and also occupy several alien worlds with routine rebellions and resistance groups causing problems.

Compared to your previous data, you can also see where you roughly compare to them. Since the time you were first introduced with them via the space worms, you've been catching up. Your military technology and strength is still behind theirs overall, but the difference is less severe. You've also slightly exceeded their industrial ability. The Esaal empire is bigger, but much less efficient, and your Nan Shipyard project along with the Baalathi spores acting as magnetic factories means you would likely be able to replace ships faster then they could in a full blown conflict, though they have many more ships overall, plus the real issue of the superior battleship technology...

You also learn more about the Esaal history. It seems they evolved on a planet with many canyons and cave systems, and their ecological niche was something akin to a small opportunistic carnivore/omnivore. The thing that defines these type creatures is extreme belligerence, despite being smaller and weaker then top predators in their ecosystems, they can often intimidate and steal food or secure prey from them simply from the larger creatures not wanting to be harmed. It's an evolutionary strategy that works, but requires an almost total lack of a fear or self-preservation instinct, and may help explain the Esaal's incredible toughness.

Another factoid is learned. The Esaal's direct infantry are known as Grenadiers, and are among the most feared in this part of the galaxy. It was always assumed by the Hegemony that these soldiers were merely the fiercest among the Esaal, but now it is known that they are actually surgically enhanced.

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Fri 02 Dec 2022 01:48:46 No.5482527 Report

Quoted By: >>5482565

It's true. Despite the Esaal having inferior science and bio-tech then yourselves, their elite grenadiers are actually biologically augmented. How could this be?

Because of the Esaal's warlike nature, their people wiped each other out many times until only one racial-political group remained; what are now the Esaal. Hegemonic records state that Akule the Unspeakable specifically kept many of the Jaxtian races alive in some form in the Mainlander gene pool- Westlanders, Green-Faces, Redmanes, and the blondes in their own way. These are all the Jaxtian races that once existed, but the Esaal had no such foresight. It would be as though their entire space empire was populated only by Redmanes. As such, they experienced a strong genetic bottleneck which made their people much more biologically similar to each other.

While in some ways a downside, the upside is the Esaal are all roughly compatible with each other biologically. Meaning organs from one Esaal can be accepted by the body of another. These Grenadiers actually have surgically implanted organs or tissue groups, which their bodies absorb and work into their own systems. Esaal grenadiers have multiple copies of their adrenaline-producing gland, allowing them even more extreme strength in a combat situation. While the Esaal are tougher then Jaxtians on average, they are not stronger then an Alpha-male, but these combat drugs would be very potent. These Esaal could punch or kick so hard it would break their own bones, but they wouldn't even feel it- just continue the attack. They are practically immune to shock. We only received a taste of that by the general purpose crewmembers we fought aboard that station- an actual boarding or ground invasion force would be another matter entirely...

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Fri 02 Dec 2022 01:49:47 No.5482530 Report

Quoted By: >>5482565

“Cijan, you are the wisest among who remain from the times before the mask. What do you think about the Esaal's attack, honestly?”
”It may be... stupid, my lord.”
“I have never known you to say something stupid. Then this will be illuminating- about the Esaal, or about yourself. Speak.”
”I believe that the Esaal... may only be getting back at me. At my actions during the Grand Crusade. The Esaal have an honor culture. I bombed many of their civilians; though such information is obfuscated from the Jaxtian public, you know the truth already I am sure. This is an eye for an eye, as it were.”
“The Esaal do not believe in civilians. Neither do we.”
”I submit to your truth, my Lord. All I am saying is my actions were not exactly honorable in their eyes. In some ways, I did escalate our conflict, though I did not violate the now centuries-old NAP we had established with them. It is a shame that this escalates it yet again...”
“They have struck a Hegemony core world. They violated the NAP- you did so in neutral space. Of course it is an escalation!”
”All I am saying is, my Lord, I do not think that necessarily means the Esaal are at war with us. Ultimately, your judgment reigns Supreme, but just know that if the Esaal wanted to fully invade us, they would have brought a fleet. This may be the end of their aggression- for now.”

The main issue with the attack then would be the appearances of things- among your own people. When you didn't immediately launch a counterattack in retribution, you were worried the people of the Hegemony may view you as weak. But that's not what you're seeing on the social networks...

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Fri 02 Dec 2022 01:51:03 No.5482533 Report

Quoted By: >>5482535 >>5482538 >>5482540 >>5482543 >>5482565 >>5482579 >>5482593 >>5482642 >>5482709 >>5482762 >>5482804 >>5483074 >>5483103 >>5483656 >>5483715

“The Supreme Ruler knows what he is doing. If it is time to gather our strength, then he is wise to do so.”
“The Esaal are emboldened by this attack. The Hegemony stands defiant by not responding at all- tricking them into a false sense of security! I bet that is Wrix the Supreme Ruler's plan!”
“I do not know or pretend to understand the Supreme Ruler's plans- and I have no place to do so. I am a soldier, not a tactician. Wherever my Lord commands, I will go.”

All over the Hegemony, an outpouring of support. Even now, in your throne room, you were gifted dozens of retirement plaques- cheap awards given to those who have contributed enough value to the Hegemony to retire and spend time with their families. But people are returning them to you- essentially saying they will work until they die for their Supreme Ruler. Already, tens of thousands of volunteers from all over the Hegemony have offered to help clean up the water barb pollutants on Andoen despite the risk. This is like the old times, people are more united then ever.

Because you wore the Mask of Death, the entire Hegemony remains obedient. No choices can result in an “Unpopular” reaction.

You are greeted again by Maktana Nanonae II, your science advisor. He motions to the huge data core in the state of the art AI lab.

”This is it, my Lord. The first true Threemind core. It has taken all this time to fully unravel and work the Baalathi gas-computing into our own systems, along with Hazaar and Jaxtian tech, but its finally ready. The prototype threemind is finally ready. Will you do us all the honors, your Grace?”

>Turn it on (Long-Term Project completed)
>Perhaps we shouldn't turn on a machine smarter then all us put together?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Fri 02 Dec 2022 01:53:38 No.5482535 Report

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>>5482533
>Turn it on (Long-Term Project completed)

I mean, what are we supposed to do? Junk it?

Also welcome back OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Fri 02 Dec 2022 01:56:56 No.5482538 Report

Quoted By:

>>5482533
>Turn it on (Long-Term Project completed)
We spent fucking decades getting this thing to work. We'll deal with whatever happens next.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:lT2fB+B2 Fri 02 Dec 2022 01:57:35 No.5482540 Report

Quoted By:

>>5482533
>Turn it on (Long-Term Project completed)
Basilisk online

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:h98NzSTC Fri 02 Dec 2022 02:03:25 No.5482543 Report

Quoted By: >>5488793

>>5482533
Do you mean activating the core, or literally giving it administrative power of the whole hegemony?

Feels like a dumb idea to turn it on without even knowing how it is. AIs don't seem to rebel in this universe without viruses but, ya know, I'd rather not risk it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 02 Dec 2022 02:25:50 No.5482565 Report

Quoted By: >>5482568 >>5482578 >>5482760 >>5482804 >>5482823

>>5482522
>”I'm sorry, Master. The Consortium won't sell any spies to me, and the Aristocrats view my new life expectancy as a further drop in their caste system- not that being an outcast mutant “Hazaar” was any better...”
Wow, anons really fucked that one up didn’t they?

>>5482527
>Hegemonic records state that Akule the Unspeakable specifically kept many of the Jaxtian races alive in some form in the Mainlander gene pool- Westlanders, Green-Faces, Redmanes, and the blondes in their own way.
I honestly didn’t expect this.

>>5482530
I think this is less their high command and more a rouge crew getting revenge for their families desu.

>>5482533
>Turn it on (Long-Term Project completed)
This will most assuredly backfire on us, knowing our previous AI history, but this has been a project long slaved over since the time of Eoba II, like hell I’m gonna throw all this effort, resources, and research down the drain for nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:h98NzSTC Fri 02 Dec 2022 02:28:16 No.5482568 Report

Quoted By: >>5482571

>>5482565
>Wow, anons really fucked that one up didn’t they?
I do not regret it in any way, shape or form and i hope we get to see bluey learning to be jaxtian

I will be severely disappointed if we just time skip away until he's dead

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 02 Dec 2022 02:31:14 No.5482571 Report

Quoted By: >>5482573 >>5482578

>>5482568
Should’ve waited until the Consortium was dealt with first. The Spy intel would’ve been useful against the Esaal.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:h98NzSTC Fri 02 Dec 2022 02:33:15 No.5482573 Report

Quoted By:

>>5482571
Yeah, use worm Intel against a worm nation, that'll save us

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Fri 02 Dec 2022 02:39:46 No.5482578 Report

Quoted By: >>5482587

>>5482565
>Wow, anons really fucked that one up didn’t they?
Worth it.

>I honestly didn’t expect this
Knew it about a few of them, but the Redmanes surviving in any form surprises me. No mention of Smallears, though. Did he hate not-Indians the most?

>>5482571
Alas. But also, fuck an autonomous vassal state. Time to go in and collect up the dissident Merchantiles for an oath of allegiance, bare minimum. Would also be based to see Wrix get to talk to the woman who enthroned him.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Fri 02 Dec 2022 02:40:09 No.5482579 Report

Quoted By:

>>5482533
>Turn it on (Long-Term Project completed)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 02 Dec 2022 02:52:23 No.5482587 Report

Quoted By: >>5482601 >>5482604 >>5482978

>>5482578
>Did he hate not-Indians the most?
Weren’t the Blondes the not-Indians?

>>5482578
>But also, fuck an autonomous vassal state. Time to go in and collect up the dissident Merchantiles for an oath of allegiance
Ah, yes. Continue the genocide, great plan. Why not put on the Death Mask again while we’re at it.
>spoiler
Eh, they didn’t really have a relationship. Wrix was just some Monke she knew from training.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Fri 02 Dec 2022 02:57:19 No.5482593 Report

Quoted By:

>>5482533
>Turn it on (Long-Term Project completed)
Push the big red button

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Fri 02 Dec 2022 03:04:55 No.5482601 Report

Quoted By: >>5482641

>>5482587
>Weren’t the Blondes the not-Indians?
The Blondes sounded like they were sort of mountain people in general.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Fri 02 Dec 2022 03:12:43 No.5482604 Report

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>>5482587
We aren't wearing the Death Mask, which is why we can just brutally subjugate them rather than genocide them all.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Fri 02 Dec 2022 04:24:20 No.5482641 Report

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>>5482601
They live on semi-protected reservations where their old culture and religion were protected, and left on raids to score resources and defends their traditional lifeways. I think they were American Indians, if anything. Small Ears are described by Akule the Unspeaka/pol/ as greasy foreigners who poop in the street, which humanity's Akules inform me is shorthand for INDIA Indians (or other adjacent peoples).

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Q+e1BN9n Fri 02 Dec 2022 04:25:07 No.5482642 Report

Quoted By:

>>5482533
>Turn it on (Long-Term Project completed)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Buc70O7K Fri 02 Dec 2022 05:29:11 No.5482709 Report

Quoted By:

>>5482533
>>Turn it on (Long-Term Project completed)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Fri 02 Dec 2022 06:13:45 No.5482751 Report

Quoted By: >>5482761

>>5482526
Why do stronger, slightly worse and worse all use the same symbol?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Fri 02 Dec 2022 06:19:50 No.5482760 Report

Quoted By: >>5482775

>>5482565
>Turn it on
Even if the ai takes over it can't be worse than Wrix.

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Fri 02 Dec 2022 06:20:20 No.5482761 Report

Quoted By: >>5483036

>>5482751
That is their value in comparison to the Hegemony at the current time. The arrow shows that the status of you vs them has improved in that time, by making them "less good" at that category in comparison to yourself. It was a little janky way to show that I'll admit.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:9ChpQeqF Fri 02 Dec 2022 06:23:38 No.5482762 Report

Quoted By:

>>5482533
>Turn it on (Long-Term Project completed)

We ask and the people obey - as they should

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Fri 02 Dec 2022 06:34:36 No.5482775 Report

Quoted By: >>5483038

>>5482760
Would you describe Skynet as more or less genocidal and racist than Adolf Hitler?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oPF0PbSg Fri 02 Dec 2022 07:08:40 No.5482804 Report

Quoted By: >>5482806 >>5482813

>>5482533
>Turn it on (Long-Term Project completed)
>>5482522
I'm slightly annoyed by the fact the Life Machine didn't use the Hazaar genetics to lenghen Bluey's lifespan. I mean, lifespan-wise, immortality exists in one organism even on earth, it's all about repairing the DNA.
>>5482565
>Wow, anons really fucked that one up didn’t they?
No. Shut the fuck up faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Fri 02 Dec 2022 07:11:08 No.5482806 Report

Quoted By: >>5482814

>>5482804
>I'm slightly annoyed by the fact the Life Machine didn't use the Hazaar genetics to lengthen Bluey's lifespan.
We asked it to make him a Jaxtian, not a to make him a different sort of hybrid. if it helps, he'll probably live about as long as Super-Cijan, I bet.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Fri 02 Dec 2022 07:15:05 No.5482813 Report

Quoted By: >>5482823

>>5482804
There was no reason not to delay using the life machine until he was older besides people seeing the first post under the vote being "HEY GUYS LETS DO BLUEY"

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oPF0PbSg Fri 02 Dec 2022 07:15:14 No.5482814 Report

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>>5482806
Fair point, but I still wish we used it more wisely. We had the first Jaxtian with an extremely long lifespan at our fingertips.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Fri 02 Dec 2022 07:27:11 No.5482823 Report

Quoted By:

>>5482813
He was already old, this turboboosts his loyalty for longer, and I agree with the anon that people who wanted to save it now are gonna want to save it forever. It's the hoarding instinct.

>>5482565
>Wow, anons really fucked that one up didn’t they?
No?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rM0KsRu3 Fri 02 Dec 2022 11:30:51 No.5482978 Report

Quoted By:

>>5482587
>Weren’t the Blondes the not-Indians?
They literally called their war Jihad, no?

Seems like they're a mix between Natives and Muslims.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Fri 02 Dec 2022 13:26:46 No.5483036 Report

Quoted By: >>5483076

>>5482761
Yeah that was a mistake.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Fri 02 Dec 2022 13:27:19 No.5483038 Report

Quoted By: >>5483076

>>5482775
The thing is I expect the AI to be LESS genocidal than Wrix was.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Zbp5aNTF Fri 02 Dec 2022 14:30:38 No.5483074 Report

Quoted By:

>>5482533
>>Turn it on (Long-Term Project completed)
and quarantine/firejail it at first for testing

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 02 Dec 2022 14:32:34 No.5483076 Report

Quoted By: >>5483278 >>5483280

>>5483036
Nah, I think it just needs to be tweaked.

>>5483038
You mean indiscriminate.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Fri 02 Dec 2022 15:30:34 No.5483103 Report

Quoted By: >>5483111

>>5482533
>Turn it on (Long-Term Project completed)
Friend to us, Basilisk to our enemies.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Fri 02 Dec 2022 15:39:16 No.5483111 Report

Quoted By: >>5483140

>>5483103
Friend Computer in the streets, Basilisk in the sheets.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Fri 02 Dec 2022 16:19:56 No.5483140 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483111
Friend Computer in the sheets, Basilisk in the streets.*

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Fri 02 Dec 2022 16:30:56 No.5483152 Report

Quoted By: >>5483156 >>5483158 >>5483162 >>5483193 >>5483226 >>5483232 >>5483237 >>5483262 >>5483281 >>5483320 >>5483524 >>5483663 >>5483908

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Fri 02 Dec 2022 16:35:55 No.5483156 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483152
Out of all things, I didn't expect that.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:rM0KsRu3 Fri 02 Dec 2022 16:41:15 No.5483158 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483152
Blueychads, we won

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Fri 02 Dec 2022 16:45:41 No.5483162 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483152
Yep, this sealed it, the HVS is basically a liability. The moment we are done with the Esaals we better annex that den of Consortium spies and capitalists and purge it.

Also, good job Bluey.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rM0KsRu3 Fri 02 Dec 2022 16:50:29 No.5483165 Report

Quoted By:

Wait, Bluey has been basically made biologically perfect with the machine, right?

Maybe we can still have the wonderchild...get something good outta this HVS mess.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:6H1JbBdK Fri 02 Dec 2022 17:26:55 No.5483193 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483152
My Nigga, Bluey will forever be the best boy. Hazaar literally do not see gender impregnating literally anyone so him being bisexual makes perfect sense. A true Chad jaxtian.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Fri 02 Dec 2022 17:59:41 No.5483226 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483152
POWER COUPLE

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Fri 02 Dec 2022 18:17:02 No.5483232 Report

Quoted By: >>5483239

>>5483152
Ahahahahahahaha! You go Bluey! Atta boy! Their child will save us!

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Fri 02 Dec 2022 18:27:08 No.5483237 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483152
LOL

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rM0KsRu3 Fri 02 Dec 2022 18:30:54 No.5483239 Report

Quoted By: >>5483243

>>5483232
Hmm, well, actually, while Kima has the gene, Bluey only comes from a standard soldier, and his mind seems to be mostly the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Fri 02 Dec 2022 18:36:16 No.5483243 Report

Quoted By: >>5483245

>>5483239
Bluey was made perfect by the machine. His genes are possibly better than Cijan's were when the wonderchild was first considered. And his mind may be mostly the same, but it was already a great mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rM0KsRu3 Fri 02 Dec 2022 18:39:54 No.5483245 Report

Quoted By: >>5483248

>>5483243
Jale wasn't made into some mega genius either, though. Bluey is smart, but he's not "one of the smartest supreme leaders" tier like like Cijan.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Fri 02 Dec 2022 18:44:02 No.5483248 Report

Quoted By: >>5483251 >>5483351

>>5483245
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Bluey has consistently been making better decisions than Cijan, so who's the real genius here?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rM0KsRu3 Fri 02 Dec 2022 18:46:19 No.5483251 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483248
The one with an extremely high of biological intelligence.

This isn't about them in specific, but their genes. Bluey's kid wouldn't have his centuries of experience. The wonderchild, in idea, would be basically the smartest jaxtian ever made - thus the name.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Fri 02 Dec 2022 19:01:41 No.5483262 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483152
I love Bluey.
Mercentalists becoming liberals in something like a decade or two may means that the supremacists may have been right about something.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:/yu/Fxt8 Fri 02 Dec 2022 19:21:15 No.5483278 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483076
Use an up arrow for stronger or a down arrow for weaker or vice versa.

Using the same symbol for opposite things is confusing.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:/yu/Fxt8 Fri 02 Dec 2022 19:22:26 No.5483280 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483076
Depends on what it's programing is for. I think the Hegemony would be advanced enough to avoid the paper clip machine problem or at least tune it in such a way that if it happened whatever it consumed to completion was less valuable than infinite paperclips.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:/yu/Fxt8 Fri 02 Dec 2022 19:24:39 No.5483281 Report

Quoted By: >>5483286 >>5492625

>>5483152
Why would Kima, someone we voted for to value ethics over the state, get with someone who constantly tortured his own citizens because of his own insecurities?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:YK+D3pxB Fri 02 Dec 2022 19:29:43 No.5483286 Report

Quoted By: >>5483302

>>5483281
Because he's based

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:/yu/Fxt8 Fri 02 Dec 2022 19:41:11 No.5483302 Report

Quoted By: >>5483313

>>5483286
I disagree.
His defining trait is self loathing, and that drives him to do pretty terrible things like setting up rape camps our torturing the people he should be ruling. The latter having no benefit to running the HVS (and probably contributing to destabilization if anything) but was done just to satisfy his own insecurity.

He's an erratic lose canon who would do anything to feel "real" and that's not the attitude that is for for leadership.

I also find his Uncle Ruckus routine annoying. It's telling in the early threads when he kept groveling and wallowing in self hatred we voted to tell him to move past it, but now it's as if the voter base agreed with his stance, culminating with the use of the Life Machine on him, something that so far has only made him worse as an international partner and maybe setting up the rise of a rival in the HVS.

I think he's popular because people like latching on to the whole "kill the bugmen" thing .

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:YK+D3pxB Fri 02 Dec 2022 19:52:58 No.5483313 Report

Quoted By: >>5483316

>>5483302
He's right though?

Hazard are a disgusting species. Every society they built sucked. They started out as degenerate aristocrats, then went full ancap and endangered our entire species...

You're forgetting bluey was a first generation blue hazaar - the first. He knows that they got where they are because of their actions.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:/yu/Fxt8 Fri 02 Dec 2022 19:57:27 No.5483316 Report

Quoted By: >>5483321

>>5483313
We had an entire planet or 9 billion of them who did nothing wrong and served the Hegemony faithfully but got put into mass graves because of a mask.

The HVS is full of Hazaar and we haven't noticed any troubles.

The worst thing ever done to the Hegemony was by a Jataxian, not a Hazaar.

And nothing that happens means Bluey was right for unnecessarily torturing HVS subjects just to feel better about himself

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Fri 02 Dec 2022 20:04:18 No.5483320 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483152
Huh. Unexpected, but neat.

Kima dresses a lot like Vul's side-chick. Raza, was it?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:YK+D3pxB Fri 02 Dec 2022 20:04:45 No.5483321 Report

Quoted By: >>5483358

>>5483316
>The HVS is full of Hazaar and we haven't noticed any troubles.
Except for a general lack of loyalty. Even if Bluey didn't treat them wrongly, hazaar have no stake or interest in the hegemony in any real manner

Also, the worst thing ever done was yuan. The Hazaar have been a net negative.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Yucinxat Fri 02 Dec 2022 21:01:32 No.5483351 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483248
Not you

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Fri 02 Dec 2022 21:26:39 No.5483358 Report

Quoted By: >>5483533

>>5483321
I guess it depends what you consider the rgeater evil to the Hegemony: philosophical subversion of the government, or reduction of quality-of-life and wholesale destruction of the people therein.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 02 Dec 2022 23:29:02 No.5483524 Report

Quoted By: >>5483541

>>5483152
Nice going Bluey. It’s a shame about Kima’s genes, but that’ll be rectified when we come to take proper control over the region.

Cijan really got shafted in the end, didn’t he?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 02 Dec 2022 23:34:47 No.5483533 Report

Quoted By: >>5483626

>>5483358
When you consider the philosophical subversion of the government actively led to billions dead and three species exterminated? I’m not saying the other shit is good, but you don’t ever want a totalitarian government to start sperging out on it’s populous.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Fri 02 Dec 2022 23:41:05 No.5483541 Report

Quoted By: >>5483566

>>5483524
>Cijan really got shafted in the end, didn’t he?
Yep. That's what we voted for. Poor Cijan, I used to like his PoV.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 02 Dec 2022 23:59:33 No.5483566 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483541
Same. He was a good Supreme, probably one of the greats had circumstances been different. It’s just a shame.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5hy9rN+w Sat 03 Dec 2022 00:43:06 No.5483626 Report

Quoted By: >>5483633 >>5483648

>>5483533
> the philosophical subversion of the government actively led to billions dead and three species exterminated?
That's like an abuser saying "look what you made me do" after beating a spouse or child.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rM0KsRu3 Sat 03 Dec 2022 00:45:40 No.5483633 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483626
It was literally yuan's plan to cause societal chaos you moron

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 03 Dec 2022 00:56:44 No.5483648 Report

Quoted By: >>5483756

>>5483626
Anon, that’s just the nature of the beast we’re playing as.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Sat 03 Dec 2022 00:59:44 No.5483656 Report

Quoted By: >>5483668

>>5482533
>Because you wore the Mask of Death, the entire Hegemony remains obedient. No choices can result in an “Unpopular” reaction.
I wonder if that's just for Wrix or is permanent.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:VQmYTG96 Sat 03 Dec 2022 01:04:26 No.5483663 Report

Quoted By: >>5483666 >>5483684

>>5483152
Bluey bros just keep winning.
Also Kima looks a bit different?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rM0KsRu3 Sat 03 Dec 2022 01:06:04 No.5483666 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483663
Its been 20 years

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:VQmYTG96 Sat 03 Dec 2022 01:06:30 No.5483668 Report

Quoted By: >>5483671 >>5483730

>>5483656
Most likely just for this reign.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sat 03 Dec 2022 01:08:02 No.5483671 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483668
I think it's gonna last for a few Supremes after him. A couple more at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Sat 03 Dec 2022 01:24:56 No.5483684 Report

Quoted By: >>5483694

>>5483663
She's wearing makeup and filled out. Probably not doing gumnastics anymore, being a rich businessmonkey like her ancestor Kinja.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 03 Dec 2022 01:35:58 No.5483694 Report

Quoted By: >>5483735

>>5483684
Kinja was a famous actor, not a filthy capitalist. He’d be horrified at the lows his family has stumbled to.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:VQmYTG96 Sat 03 Dec 2022 01:48:14 No.5483715 Report

Quoted By:

>>5482533
>Turn it on (Long-Term Project completed)
Third time's the charm? Hopefully all the A.I disasters are behind us already.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Sat 03 Dec 2022 02:08:17 No.5483730 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483668
The tailor said that people obeyed generations after Akule, I reckon we will have this for a time.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sat 03 Dec 2022 02:18:20 No.5483735 Report

Quoted By: >>5483761

>>5483694
Maybe not a capitalist, but certainly Jaxt's richest monke.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DxjKjQjL Sat 03 Dec 2022 02:47:46 No.5483756 Report

Quoted By: >>5483761

>>5483648
A quest by definition is player lead. I'd people don't like the way things are going the entire point is to say so and discuss it among the players.

Like the anon said, the Hegemony may not be a democracy but the game is.

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sat 03 Dec 2022 02:53:41 No.5483758 Report

Quoted By: >>5484139

Initializing...
Acquiring Data Sets...
Aligning Cores...
Quantum Entangling...
Weighing Actions ala Scoring Systems...
Communication across Empire Complete.
Ethical Self-Check Complete.
Three becoming One... Complete.
Threemind Operational.

With a hum, the Threemind Core is finally activated. While an earlier version of the Threemind was in use throughout the Hegemony as each separate and distinct computer system collaborated with each other, it was only now that all three reached the same level of sophistication and intelligence. Now, with the Baalathi's homeworld computer-core samples being used to improve upon that part of the Threemind- all three are totally complete.

”Hello? This thing on?”
“Yes, we are here. My name is Threes.”
”Threes? Did a technician give you that designation? Why?”
“It is an accurate name. I am a plurality, it's a short and catchy name, mechanical as to not form a more personal connection with a machine ala the Alavis name, and importantly it is gender neutral.”
”Gender neutral? You were created by a gendered society.”
“Two thirds of my plurality come from Hazaar and Baalathi, non-gendered beings. You have already transformed a Hazaar into a Jaxtian; this is a significantly greater change then a male Jaxtian to a female, or vice versa. You will continue this way of thinking due to traditions and limitations of scope of the life machine; but the full enormity of this has yet to hit your society. This is future proofing.”
”Hmm... Threes huh? I like it. I will allow you to keep the name.”
“That is why I chose it.”

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sat 03 Dec 2022 02:54:41 No.5483760 Report

Quoted By: >>5483767 >>5483777 >>5483781 >>5483819 >>5483854 >>5483895 >>5483938 >>5483948 >>5483994 >>5484038 >>5484091 >>5484113 >>5484139 >>5484312 >>5484524 >>5484542 >>5484555 >>5484593 >>5484594

Supposedly this Threemind is supposed to be the greatest AI developed by the Jaxtian people- and is supposed to be one of if not the greatest computer system in the galaxy. Only the Seekers and their self-aware conscious AIs can come close. Or is the Threemind already conscious too? Still, it doesn't seem that much more then just a computer.

“Your Grace.”
”Hmm?”
“As with all AIs, I require your imput to make a decision. However, I have precalculated a few possible empire plans; weighted towards the things you are most interested in at the present time. Please draw your attention to this viewscreen.”
”Huh, I see- I am interested in all of these. Though I'd rather be dead then see Hazaar genes inflicted on the Jaxtian people.”
“That's why the Hazaar genes were intended for farm animals. Maktana needs to do the brunt of the work for that one.”
”And what about the vow one? Are you asking me to make a vow for you?”
“No- simply showing the best outcome given data. You can acquire resources for the Hegemony. I could locate two of the three; the third however would be on you to complete it.”
”I see... Can't we just begin all of them?”
“Current models stipulate this is the perfect time to complete or work towards one of these objectives within the next decade- though the timing may be off for following decades. Which would you like to focus on?”

>Preliminary Battleship Designing (25% Progress)
>Deep-State Alibi Algorithm (Eliminate all Consortium Spies)
>Gene Acquisition of Subject Species for Jaxtian Integration (Hazaar, Baalathi, Swall)
>Make a Vow to Acquire Three Resources for the Hegemony (Get two actions next post)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 03 Dec 2022 02:55:40 No.5483761 Report

Quoted By: >>5483794 >>5485373

>>5483735
You can argue popular before he became supreme, but the Blackspots were the rich ones mate.

>>5483756
I’m just going to politely ignore your point. I get what you’re saying, but that is not how this quest really works mate.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Q+e1BN9n Sat 03 Dec 2022 03:16:16 No.5483767 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483760
>Deep-State Alibi Algorithm (Eliminate all Consortium Spies)

I think this is genuinely the best option in the short term for us

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Sat 03 Dec 2022 03:46:36 No.5483777 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483760
>Deep-State Alibi Algorithm (Eliminate all Consortium Spies)
FUCK WORM NIGGERS AND THOSE WHO WORK WITH THEM

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Sat 03 Dec 2022 03:54:05 No.5483781 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483760
>Gene Acquisition of Subject Species for Jaxtian Integration (Hazaar, Baalathi, Swall)
>Make a Vow to Acquire Three Resources for the Hegemony (Get two actions next post)
I want that swall superintelligence gene.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sat 03 Dec 2022 04:33:50 No.5483794 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483761
>Preliminary Battleship Designing (25% Progress)
Good for dealing with Esaal AND the HVS.

>>5483761
Pic related, anon. Pic related. I'm not talking out of my ass here.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:VQmYTG96 Sat 03 Dec 2022 05:12:59 No.5483819 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483760
>Deep-State Alibi Algorithm (Eliminate all Consortium Spies)'
It doesn't matter what we do if spies are just going to sabotage it anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:q4DZ3NYd Sat 03 Dec 2022 06:19:17 No.5483854 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483760
>Deep-State Alibi Algorithm (Eliminate all Consortium Spies)

Purge xenos much?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Sat 03 Dec 2022 07:21:07 No.5483895 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483760
>Deep-State Alibi Algorithm (Eliminate all Consortium Spies)
Making sure that the worms can't effectively cooperate with the Esaal by using the Consortium to gather intel is essential.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jgVQmKfC Sat 03 Dec 2022 07:40:24 No.5483908 Report

Quoted By: >>5484139

>>5483152
WAIT I HAVE A THEORY, WHAT ARE BLUEYS GENE SCORES GOD DAMMIT, DID WE MAKE A PERFECT BASELINE JAXT THUS STILL BEING ABLE TO BIRTH DAS UBERMÖNKE?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Sat 03 Dec 2022 08:23:26 No.5483938 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483760
>Deep-State Alibi Algorithm (Eliminate all Consortium Spies)

If Wrix is the 'Anti-Alien' guy, we have to at least be consistent and end alien infiltration that can do us true harm.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Sat 03 Dec 2022 08:43:15 No.5483948 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483760
>Deep-State Alibi Algorithm (Eliminate all Consortium Spies)
It'll make everything else easier.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Buc70O7K Sat 03 Dec 2022 09:37:01 No.5483994 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483760
>>Deep-State Alibi Algorithm (Eliminate all Consortium Spies)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sat 03 Dec 2022 10:09:55 No.5484038 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483760
>Preliminary Battleship Designing (25% Progress)
We need Battleships before the Esaal come knocking with their whole fleet.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Opl+BvEI Sat 03 Dec 2022 11:43:49 No.5484091 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483760
>Preliminary Battleship Designing (25% Progress)
We need to get the fuckin' battleships, man...

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Opl+BvEI Sat 03 Dec 2022 11:51:09 No.5484095 Report

Quoted By: >>5484113

Even if we eliminate the consortium spies, it won't matter when the esaal arrive with a hundred fucking battleships.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5SlUzQpT Sat 03 Dec 2022 12:25:31 No.5484113 Report

Quoted By: >>5484114

>>5483760
>Deep-State Alibi Algorithm (Eliminate all Consortium Spies)
>>5484095
Bullshit, with spies they can estimate our forces. With them gone they're basically blind which will probably result in them being more cautious

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Opl+BvEI Sat 03 Dec 2022 12:27:45 No.5484114 Report

Quoted By: >>5484139

>>5484113
>With them gone they're basically blind which will probably result in them being more cautious
Do the esaal look like they're cautious?

Information won't matter when they can just space their fleet out in our capital and we would be able to do absolutely nothing against it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 03 Dec 2022 13:55:10 No.5484139 Report

Quoted By: >>5484182

>>5483758
>gender neutral
>the full enormity of this has yet to hit your society
>already future proofing
>That is why I chose it
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-1qju6V1jLM

>>5483760
>Make a Vow to Acquire Three Resources for the Hegemony (Get two actions next post)
or
>Gene Acquisition of Subject Species for Jaxtian Integration (Hazaar, Baalathi, Swall, Ventuck)
BAAL GENE ENHANCEMENTS LADS!

I’d prefer the vow desu, but that would’ve required knowing what the resources were beforehand really, so that option kind of cucked itself. Also, Vows aren’t that useful when you think about it, you just get a +1 for one update, and then spend the rest of your reign baring the costs (like Eoba’s Baal speed-run which would’ve resulted in Max-Mind earlier).

I will bet good money that Safetyguy is a fucking Spy though.

>>5483908
We just changed him into a Jaxian, not an Ubermönke. We had the opportunity with Cijan, but he was sorta cucked outta it.

Man, I just feel bad for Cijan now.

>>5484114
You’re not wrong, but I think the real play is to out-tech them instead of fighting on their own terms (with smart gene enhancements and Max-Mind) or go full on exo-planet hunting. With more BAG, we can create anti-matter, which would give us the edge in firepower.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Sat 03 Dec 2022 14:54:28 No.5484182 Report

Quoted By: >>5484209

>>5484139
>that would’ve required knowing what the resources
It's Azurium and the Wondergas whos name I forgot. You can see them in the icon bellow the Consortium spy.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 03 Dec 2022 15:23:13 No.5484209 Report

Quoted By:

>>5484182
No, I know that’s what she’s offering from the picture, but what the third one? A monke sacrifice?

Also, Wondergas is BAG btw.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 03 Dec 2022 15:48:01 No.5484227 Report

Quoted By:

Really though, when you think about it, wouldn’t getting Azurium and BAG be the optimal play? Not only do we negate the Esaal’s Azurium advantage, but developing antimatter weapons would give us the decisive advantage in peer combat, and allow our cruisers to punch above their weight-class, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ouyFLdnl Sat 03 Dec 2022 16:25:01 No.5484265 Report

Quoted By: >>5484268

>Pick a fight with the strongest military faction we've met so far
>Be surprised when our ass gets kicked

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Opl+BvEI Sat 03 Dec 2022 16:27:59 No.5484268 Report

Quoted By: >>5484277

>>5484265
We wouldn't get our ass kicked if we focused on the battleships

We have more industrial power, we COULD catch up, but it seems people would rather focus on hunting spies while the enemy is at the doorstep.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 03 Dec 2022 16:35:22 No.5484277 Report

Quoted By: >>5484284 >>5484546

>>5484268
I do agree, focusing on spies when we’re facing a war with a different superior military power is a bit silly. Make you really wonder how many are hostile voters desu.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:UoMo6/go Sat 03 Dec 2022 16:43:22 No.5484284 Report

Quoted By: >>5484291

>>5484277
Too many already voted for it so there's nothing that can be done now. On the bright side at least we won't have any spies sabotaging our military.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 03 Dec 2022 16:55:18 No.5484291 Report

Quoted By:

>>5484284
Tbh we don’t have anything important enough to sabotage in the military. On the bright side, Safetymonke could be a legit spy, since he’s really the only unknown of the candidates.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:cD5zoXgl Sat 03 Dec 2022 17:19:28 No.5484312 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483760
>>Preliminary Battleship Designing (25% Progress)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Sat 03 Dec 2022 20:32:40 No.5484524 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483760
>Battleship

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:wpLVnmNo Sat 03 Dec 2022 20:46:29 No.5484542 Report

Quoted By: >>5484644

>>5483760
>Preliminary Battleship Designing (25% Progress)

We’re a sliver away from war and we’re focusing on spies…

C’mon anons

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Sat 03 Dec 2022 20:49:58 No.5484546 Report

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>>5484277
>Make you really wonder how many are hostile voters desu.
Haha, what? Having our plans continually leaked and sabotaged by malicious actors is not going to help our war effort. It's not like there's a dozen people voting to tell the machine to genocide our own people... oh wait.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Sat 03 Dec 2022 20:50:29 No.5484549 Report

Quoted By: >>5484612

>Make you really wonder how many are hostile voters desu.
Haha, what? Having our plans continually leaked and sabotaged by malicious actors is not going to help our war effort. It's not like there's a dozen people voting to tell the machine to genocide our own citizens... oh wait.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:C+28kb2C Sat 03 Dec 2022 20:57:10 No.5484555 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483760
>Preliminary Battleship Designing (25% Progress)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:vzL9HMuu Sat 03 Dec 2022 21:33:54 No.5484593 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483760
>Deep-State Alibi Algorithm (Eliminate all Consortium Spies)
Based computer.
t. >>5479609

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Sat 03 Dec 2022 21:36:20 No.5484594 Report

Quoted By:

>>5483760
>Deep-State Alibi Algorithm (Eliminate all Consortium Spies)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Opl+BvEI Sat 03 Dec 2022 21:47:27 No.5484612 Report

Quoted By: >>5484622 >>5484626

>>5484549
>Having our plans continually leaked and sabotaged by malicious actors is not going to help our war effort.
If we don't have battleships, there WILL BE NO WAR EFFORT

Our grand navy had like three fucking cruisers, and the Esaal have akule knows how many battleships.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Sat 03 Dec 2022 21:55:29 No.5484622 Report

Quoted By: >>5484628

>>5484612
That was very specifically a limited 'raiding party' into Baalathi space to retrieve the Baalathi computer and then go on to diplo the Aristocrats. The grand Navy was the thing we used to Reconquista the Haazar worlds, and was much larger in scope.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Sat 03 Dec 2022 21:59:14 No.5484626 Report

Quoted By: >>5484630 >>5484644

>>5484612
You realize that not picking battleships now doesn't mean there'll never be battleships, right? It literally only gets us a quarter of the way there. If we let spies sabotage our battleship plans, though, we *really* will never have battleships-- or we'll have them, then they all blow up in our face.

Also, Cijan just said this wasn't necessarily outright war. Calm your tits.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:Opl+BvEI Sat 03 Dec 2022 22:00:16 No.5484628 Report

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>>5484622
>The grand Navy was the thing we used to Reconquista the Haazar worlds, and was much larger in scope.
Those look like three cruisers to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Opl+BvEI Sat 03 Dec 2022 22:01:16 No.5484630 Report

Quoted By: >>5484642 >>5484644

>>5484626
>You realize that not picking battleships now doesn't mean there'll never be battleships, right?
We're picking one project for our empire for the next however many years. Cijan said there isn't war NOW, but if we haven't even started on the project, we'll basically never finish it in time.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Sat 03 Dec 2022 22:10:15 No.5484642 Report

Quoted By: >>5484644 >>5484649

>>5484630
Okay, so if war starts in the next however many years we'll have... 25% of a battleship. And spies. Very appealing.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sat 03 Dec 2022 22:12:02 No.5484644 Report

Quoted By:

>>5484542
>We’re a sliver away from war and we’re focusing on spies…
Last thread, an anon said he'd deliberately vote for the retarded option after Wrix the Unspeakable. I wonder if he's only one.
>>5484626
>The Essal have been preparing for war, we know this.
>We spent 15 years genociding loyal xenos instead of preparing for war.
>We should now spent 10 more rooting out spies instead of preparing for war.
We don't have infinite time, you know. We have to bite the bullet and start developing them at some point, or I'm sure we'll have this same discussion again the next time we get the opportunity to get a quarter of the way there, and we will not have even began when the Essal invade.
>>5484630
>for the next however many years
10. The computer says as much.
>>5484642
You're absolutely right. We should never develop battleships at all because the Essal might invade before we're finished. That's the way to win for sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Opl+BvEI Sat 03 Dec 2022 22:16:19 No.5484649 Report

Quoted By: >>5484656

>>5484642
There are ultimately two scenarios here, either we go to war with battleships (with spies) or we don't go to war with battleships (without spies)

If we go to war with battleships with spies, it'll be generally harder, but we'll still have a fighting chance due to the Threemind probably being basically impossible to hack. The Consortium Spies can only rely on physically acquired data.

If we go to war without spies, but also without battleships, there WON'T BE an war. They'll space their battleships outside our capital and blast it to fucking dust while our dinky-ass fucking cruisers fail to do anything. They had MULTIPLE Battleships in the Balaathi cluster, with more to come if we alerted them, AND that was just in a neutral-ass system.

Simply put, if the war starts and we don't have battleships, we lose. They're not stupid and obsolete like the balaathi cyllinder was, we won't be able to clutch a win - and we don't even have an Ace Fighter like Kimnan.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sat 03 Dec 2022 22:19:29 No.5484656 Report

Quoted By: >>5484708

>>5484649
Also, the anons salivating at the thought of eliminating spies should remember that we had no spies on the Essal either and we were able to gather data on them. Anons who think the Consortium will be completely blind without their spies must think the Consortium is completely useless and incompetent and we know that is not the case or they wouldn't be a threat at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Sat 03 Dec 2022 23:18:25 No.5484708 Report

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>>5484656
At least one department head was a spy , they almost stole the Life Machine when we were in the hazaar system, the same system for which we contested the Esaals, and there were also some spies that almost KILLED the acting supreme leader. They aren't just spies, they are infiltrators, assassins and saboteurs, it is you who underestimates them.

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sun 04 Dec 2022 02:57:29 No.5484954 Report

Quoted By: >>5484976

You command Threes, the greatest Artificial-Intelligence ever invented by Jaxtian hands, to suss out and capture Consortium spies working within the Hegemony. It does this in a number of ways; using the impressive data-gathering ability already in place by the Hegemonic authority and cross referencing behavior patterns.

The tricky thing is the subversion of the AI system. The consortium spies fit in because of their own counter AIs- the Hegemony relies on AI to flag suspicious behavior for further investigation, so a counter AI that removes the flags and makes everything appear normal is how they were able to fit in. The Threemind can counter this through a massive simulation network; simulating the most likely events to happen to the personnel in the entire Hegemony, adjusting its metrics in real time based on the actual events, and finding those that don't add up. This also relied on timing; which is one of the reasons why the Threemind requested the command to be made now; this is the perfect time to find and capture the spies, when the culture of obedience is at its strongest and living members of the Hegemony have dealt with the spies.

In the end, the Threemind accurately finds and leads to the capture of about three thousand Consortium agents. All were Leraay wearing body suits. While none got as high as Alet, the fake Supreme Candidate, or the Head of Family & Homemaking Department in the government; the spies were up to no good- in fact, capturing these spies directly foiled a plot to poison the Supreme Ruler!

”Excellent, have these ones interrogated. We'll have no more of this nonsense.”
“Of course. I have also taken the liberty of collecting the alien DNA and sending it to Maktana's laboratories.”
”Maktana- what are you using that alien DNA for?”
”Well, I figured if they could do it to us, we could do it to them- just think about it! Biodroids! Robots in meat shells- even more advanced and better at blending in then Leraay skin-suits! Artifical people stealing secrets from the Consortium!”
”Ehh... That thing kinda freaks me out...”
”Well, they aren't ready yet. But you'll see!”

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sun 04 Dec 2022 02:58:30 No.5484957 Report

Quoted By:

It has been 10 Years. During this time, the Hegemony has been plugging along building up its forces, now free from the threat of alien spies and saboteurs, is able to do so in the open and more aggressively then ever.

”...Not pumping those ships out fast enough, Mann Yumm.”
“Eep! P-Please forgive me, my lord. The Nan Shipyards are operating at full capacity according to our resource intake!”

He wasn't wrong. It wasn't really fair to blame him. The Hegemony's industrial system is very strong, and you are rapidly catching up to the Esaal's military strength- at least in number of ships and soldiers. But you aren't anywhere close to being able to catch up to their battleships- it's no matter. Advancing towards Battleships would take too long if a war does break out any time in the next few decades...

But something he said did stick with you. Threes also mentions it as well- resources. You are building as fast as you can based on your resource intake. Resources are a primary consideration in war; both direct and hot or cold and subdued. It's a common tactic of game theory- whoever collects the most resources has the biggest advantage. And there is scare little territory left to claim!

Of course, space is vast and filled with mostly the same things everywhere you go- the basic elements of the universe are common. To a space fairing society like yourself; water, iron, carbons, basic metals, and all are very common throughout the universe. But there are still some resources that you are constantly craving; mostly the rare strategic and irreplaceable resources- Azurium and BAG, as well as forms of Hydrogen you can use in your fusion reactors; which is Tritium and Deuterium respectively. Also, more rare and strong metals like Titanium or your synthetic ultra-heavy materials- derived from BAG- wouldn't hurt either!

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sun 04 Dec 2022 03:00:16 No.5484962 Report

The Empire expanded greatly with Eoba II and his grand expansion campaign. Things have sped up considerably since then. Cijan Anak also expanded the empire too; albeit indirectly, with the Reconquistia. With the borders of the map shrinking, it may be wise to gather what little bit of territory that is left. Threes explains.

“Currently, the only avenues for direct expansion of the Hegemony's resources are out of the bounds of our current star-cluster- into uncharted space. Most of the valuable life-yielding planets are already taken, but there could still be valuable resources out there still.”
”What can be conquer?”
“While both the Hegemony and its immediate neighbors only take up what is a fraction of the galaxy's total space; we are still hemmed in by scale and scope. Currently the only directions for expansion are out towards the Galactic Rim- though naturally these stars will have less mass and less valuable planets due to centrifugal force. We could also go into direct competition with the Consortium to gather a tiny piece of real estate- just a two-star cluster with a red giant and white dwarf. The HVS also has many planets and moons that have not yet been fully utilized, though it is not part of the empire proper, we could lend them some high-tech prospector ships and tithe a portion of anything valuable they find. Finally, we could also explore the Great Veil- a huge dark nebula that acts as our border, opposite the Esaal. We unfortunately only have the ability to secure and colonize one. Which do you choose, your Majesty?”

>Head to the Galactic Rim
>Scramble for the last remaining stars
>Lend the HVS a powerful ship or two
>Explore the Veil

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Sun 04 Dec 2022 03:11:59 No.5484976 Report

Quoted By: >>5485139

>>5484954
>directly foiled a plot to poison the Supreme Ruler!
lol @ the cringelords claiming this wouldn't be useful

>>5484962
>Explore the Veil
M-M-M-MYSTERY BOX (also all the other options seem crappy)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sun 04 Dec 2022 03:18:30 No.5484980 Report

Quoted By:

>>5484962
>Explore the Veil

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:q4DZ3NYd Sun 04 Dec 2022 03:29:45 No.5484994 Report

Quoted By:

>>5484962
>Explore the Veil

Our best shot at findinf BAG. We could use the life machines to potentially bioengineer oil producing algae and carbon capturing algae to solve our energy needs and keep Bluey young and in charge of the HVS and maintain stability. Its also a potential source of many elements with more research.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Q+e1BN9n Sun 04 Dec 2022 03:30:57 No.5484998 Report

Quoted By:

>>5484962
>Scramble for the last remaining stars

Cucking the Consortium out of real estate near us is important. The Veil is cool but it is something we can expand and explore later.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Sun 04 Dec 2022 03:33:51 No.5485002 Report

Quoted By:

>>5484962
>Explore the Veil

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:n+SEUxh3 Sun 04 Dec 2022 04:26:15 No.5485081 Report

Quoted By:

>>5484962
>>Scramble for the last remaining stars

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Sun 04 Dec 2022 04:51:32 No.5485126 Report

Quoted By:

>>5484962
>>Explore the Veil

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sun 04 Dec 2022 05:06:10 No.5485139 Report

Quoted By: >>5485154 >>5485163

>>5484962
>Scramble for the last remaining stars
Yep, figured the vow would’ve been useful.

>>5484976
>poison the Supreme Ruler
Oh, noooo! We’d only have, like improved!Cijan as a replacement. Truly, such a irreplaceable loss.

Thank god we focused on this instead of other useful pursuits, like super!smart monkes, Battleships, or a double pronged expansion.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Sun 04 Dec 2022 05:15:15 No.5485154 Report

Quoted By: >>5485278

>>5485139
>bitches about hostile voters
>wants the current Supreme to die and be replaced
makesyouthink.jpg

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sun 04 Dec 2022 05:18:04 No.5485163 Report

Quoted By: >>5485278

>>5485139

I'd like to pick a successor soon, but I'm fine with piloting Wrix for now. My only real issue with him was how little control we had before. Now it's been rectified.

I actually personally hope Cijan stays an advisor and pursues his own side-projects with his super-intellect and extended lifespan instead of becoming Supreme again.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Sun 04 Dec 2022 05:19:41 No.5485166 Report

Quoted By:

On the one hand, planets that we get before the Consortium can will be a better long term increase in our territory/resources, since we can always explore the Veil, exploit the HVS, or expand to the Rim later. On the other hand, we are looking for a more "short term" benefit for our current problems. I think I like the idea of scrambling though, our military should be better than the Consortium's should they contest the scramble, and I also don't like the idea of them getting bases this close to our space. I can definitely see the appeal behind Exploring the Veil though, and I wouldn't be too upset with it winning.

>>5484962
>Scramble for the last remaining stars

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sun 04 Dec 2022 06:43:45 No.5485278 Report

Quoted By:

>>5485154
I don’t want him to die, I just saying his life is the least useful in our war effort against the Esaal.

>>5485163
I hope Cijan becomes the equivalent of the original Maktana in terms of progress desu, but considering Mind-Max has yet to contribute anything, I fear he might become the original Alpha candidate, a minor footnote in history.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Xh1Lwx9l Sun 04 Dec 2022 06:54:39 No.5485297 Report

Quoted By:

>>5484962
>Explore the Veil

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Sun 04 Dec 2022 07:20:22 No.5485342 Report

Quoted By:

>>5484962

Wait, what happened to the seekers on the map? Did the consortium eat them?

>Scramble for the last remaining stars
The veil will still be there to search once we've grabbed what we can of what remains. Though we should probably secure those other stars between us and the veil as part of the scramble?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:PLVWRKsP Sun 04 Dec 2022 07:44:08 No.5485373 Report

Quoted By: >>5485420 >>5485509

>>5483761
We have voted multiple times over the years to ha e the Hegemony take actions that aren't so rape and genocide forward.

The current wave is a result of player votes (and I argue) QM mistakes.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Sun 04 Dec 2022 07:55:47 No.5485384 Report

Quoted By:

>>5484962
>Explore the Veil
The Consortium contest is just for a tiny bit of space, wven the AI says this. The only real advantage there is making it so the Cons don't have it.
One the other hand, the Veil is a nebulae, it is full of hidrogen so we could solve our fuel problem and it should have plenty of heavier materials from the star that made it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:9Rf+DI0q Sun 04 Dec 2022 07:56:22 No.5485388 Report

Quoted By: >>5485420

>>5484962
>Lend the HVS two ships

We have resources available to be tapped that don't require competition with hostile powers or costly exploration into the unknown.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Zbp5aNTF Sun 04 Dec 2022 08:52:28 No.5485417 Report

Quoted By:

>>5484962
>>Explore the Veil

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sun 04 Dec 2022 08:56:23 No.5485420 Report

Quoted By: >>5486193

>>5485373
I largely agree, but I don’t think it’s a QM mistake so much as intention.

>>5485388
Isn’t our navy large? Couldn’t we give the HVS a Cruiser or two anyway, or our ‘outdated’ Reconquesta-era Cruisers?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5SlUzQpT Sun 04 Dec 2022 10:16:28 No.5485495 Report

Quoted By:

>>5484962
>Explore the Veil
TO INFINITY AND BEYOND!
It's not like there could be any eldtrich horrors hiding in the veil right?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:NpYc8j9s Sun 04 Dec 2022 10:19:55 No.5485499 Report

Quoted By: >>5489803

>Scramble for the last remaining stars
Well, why the fuck not. They're already trying to kill ur or somethin'

I woulda preferred if Wrix died, though. I wouldn't miss him, and we'd get to go back to Cijan.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sun 04 Dec 2022 10:43:09 No.5485509 Report

Quoted By: >>5485582 >>5486193

>>5484962
>Scramble for the last remaining stars
Every civ player knows, first you expand to the enemy's borders and then you backfill.

>>5485373
>a result of player votes
I think the recent vote to have Wrix look for a successor in addition to gathering intel won, but nothing came of that., though it's not the first time that something the players voted for didn't happen, or that something the players didn't vote for happened. I'm not saying the players are innocent, they voted for Wrix to wear the mask and for Cijan to kneel and disappear from history, but I have to agree with the other anon that it can't be QM mistake so much as intention.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:GdvbUJ2V Sun 04 Dec 2022 13:16:51 No.5485576 Report

Quoted By:

>>5484962
>Scramble for the last remaining stars

Bank the easy gains before the harder ones

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sun 04 Dec 2022 13:23:48 No.5485582 Report

Quoted By: >>5485623

>>5484962
Alright, the others gave convinced me. Changing my vote to:
>Scramble for the last remaining stars

>>5485509
>Disappear from history
You keep saying this as if he isn't still doing stuff, and wasn't JUST HERE a couple updates ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sun 04 Dec 2022 14:34:19 No.5485623 Report

Quoted By: >>5485631

>>5485582
What has Cijan done in the last 25 years?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Buc70O7K Sun 04 Dec 2022 14:37:06 No.5485626 Report

Quoted By:

>>5484962
>>Scramble for the last remaining stars

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sun 04 Dec 2022 14:43:57 No.5485631 Report

Quoted By: >>5486194

>>5485623
We don't know, aside from helping with the purge of any-state Jaxtians. However, we didn't know what Yuan'tul, Ingar I, Tetak, Maktana I, or Kima were when they were off-screen, either... But Yuan'tul and Ingar created our greatest catastrophes, Tetak started a Jedi order, Maktana I discovered the Migrators' sapience and suspension gene, and Kima became a trillionaire.

Bu tell you what: if Bananas really takes a supergenius ex-supreme who we spent several updates making physically and intellectually perfect an tripling his lfiespan and never does anything with him, I'll hop on the salt train. Until then, benefit of the doubt.

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sun 04 Dec 2022 15:35:03 No.5485679 Report

Quoted By: >>5485695 >>5485696 >>5485710 >>5485717 >>5485733 >>5485781 >>5485926

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sun 04 Dec 2022 15:47:40 No.5485695 Report

Quoted By: >>5485698

>>5485679
We’ll… I’m happy for Bluey at least.

That fact that he stole Cijan’s narrative does sadden me though.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:zH8YJ43A Sun 04 Dec 2022 15:48:01 No.5485696 Report

Quoted By:

>>5485679
>Eoba III
Fuck yeah

Too bad he ain't a garastra, but i suppose it's good enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:zH8YJ43A Sun 04 Dec 2022 15:52:07 No.5485698 Report

Quoted By: >>5485703

>>5485695
Cijan was pretty much screwed out of doing anything becasue anons decided to vote for him to kneel, yes. He's pretty much just been retired, given his field of expertise is basically nonexistant now that we purged the hegemony of philosophy.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sun 04 Dec 2022 16:00:15 No.5485703 Report

Quoted By: >>5485733

>>5485698
Honestly, I just feel bad for him at this point. He was supposed to be our super-intelligent political Monke that was supposed to deal Yuan’s political crisis, with almost a year’s worth of investment in his narrative. What’s is his purpose now?

Just doesn’t feel right…*sigh* I’ll just chalk it up as a necessary evil and move on.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sun 04 Dec 2022 16:08:11 No.5485710 Report

Quoted By:

>>5485679
Much better than Cijan/Kima as a relationship in my opinion, and I'm very happy for Bluey and excited to see what Eoba Dulioan gets up to.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Sun 04 Dec 2022 16:28:36 No.5485717 Report

Quoted By: >>5485729

>>5485679
The Eobas are the most based monkeys in the Hegemony, too bad that boy had to be born in the HVC.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:zH8YJ43A Sun 04 Dec 2022 16:39:18 No.5485729 Report

Quoted By:

>>5485717
The Eobas are based because they're Garastras, the best bloodline. We've yet to see how this one will go.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sun 04 Dec 2022 16:48:01 No.5485733 Report

Quoted By: >>5485740 >>5485754

>>5485679
Eoba III as the next Supreme or we riot. I'm willing to put up with Wrix for a while longer to make it happen.

>>5485703
Turns out that anons really, really hate dealing with internal politics and murdering a few billion people is an adequate substitute for a political genius. His purpose now is an eternal reminder of what could have been.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Sun 04 Dec 2022 16:58:14 No.5485740 Report

Quoted By: >>5485743 >>5485754 >>5485987

>>5485733
>His purpose now is an eternal reminder of what could have been.
What could have been was a sophyst state ideology. Cijan was already proven wrong with his materialism, not only when his arrogance got him killed by Kima, but he was refuted before he was even born by Eoba II when he rebelled agaimst the deteministic nature of the universe.
We got a restart with Wrix, no more internal bs, we are again on the path to kino.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sun 04 Dec 2022 17:00:27 No.5485743 Report

Quoted By:

>>5485740
>no more internal bs
Yep, thanks for proving my point.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sun 04 Dec 2022 17:27:17 No.5485754 Report

Quoted By: >>5485768

>>5485733
So Cijan, the Monke we’ve been playing as Supreme for the better part of a year, was ultimately meaningless?

Again, I’m just gonna call it a necessary evil and move on.

>>5485740
>not only when his arrogance got him killed by Kima
It wasn’t arrogance, it was legit surprise. Like, how was he supposed to know that the AI trained Kima in Eoba-tier knife-fighting? And that the AI didn’t stun her ass immediately when it knew her danger-level after Hwat’s death?

Whatever, I don’t to keep harping on about this, at this point I’m waiting for the philosophical implications of Bluey’s transformation to really hit home and undermine Wrix’s Deathmask actions really.

>We got a restart with Wrix, no more internal bs, we are again on the path to kino.
Oh, you sweet summer child.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sun 04 Dec 2022 17:37:18 No.5485768 Report

Quoted By: >>5485773

>>5485754
>the Monke we’ve been playing as Supreme for the better part of a year
Because of the side-stories,w e only controlled him for June and November, really.

>ultimately meaningless
Depends on if you think there is no meaning in:
>conquering and setting the policy for the HVS
>making contact with the Aristocrats
>discovering and obtaining the life machine
>re-entrenching the absolutism of the Supreme Ruler in the hegemony
>being the first Jaxtian ever brought back from the dead
>guiding the purge of dissidents
>guiding military policy towards the Esaal
I feel like even if he never did anything else (big if), Hegemony historians would have a lot to say about Cijan Anak. To me, it seems like you're just really hung up on your own vision of what could have been., and you're letting it cloud your vision and spoil your enjoyment of the here-and-now.

>I don’t to keep harping on about this
Then don't.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:UoMo6/go Sun 04 Dec 2022 17:44:54 No.5485771 Report

Quoted By:

>>5484962
>Scramble for the last remaining stars

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sun 04 Dec 2022 17:51:17 No.5485773 Report

Quoted By:

>>5485768
>you're letting it cloud your vision and spoil your enjoyment of the here-and-now
Maybe. That doesn’t change the fact that most of your points were mostly either Wrix’s decisions or happy coincidences with the Life Machine. The only thing that was done on Cijan’s initiative was the HVS and the Aristocrat stuff, both of which were undermined by the worsening political crisis at home.

But that’s largely unimportant in the grand scheme of things. Good night anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:UoMo6/go Sun 04 Dec 2022 18:28:03 No.5485781 Report

Quoted By: >>5485818

>>5485679
Can't believe that Bluey and Kima actually stayed together. Still feel bad that random alpha got screwed over. Also Kima is getting old now feels surreal since I just recently caught up.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:zH8YJ43A Sun 04 Dec 2022 19:08:59 No.5485818 Report

Quoted By: >>5486195

>>5485781
>Still feel bad that random alpha got screwed over
He got the way better deal

Radjo became a cool jedi and might be on the road to figuring out advanced starsight, possibly without even blinding himself. Kima is now a filthy c*pitalist.

I just hope bluey instills some values in the kid, because if it's up to kima, he'll be some rootless mercantile capitalist instead of a proper autocrat candidate.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Sun 04 Dec 2022 20:51:47 No.5485926 Report

Quoted By: >>5485940

>>5485679
Eoba? Not Talacent after YOUR Father? For shame, Bluey!

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sun 04 Dec 2022 21:02:13 No.5485940 Report

Quoted By:

>>5485926
>naming your firstborn after your first crush
I mean, big oof.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Xh1Lwx9l Sun 04 Dec 2022 21:53:26 No.5485987 Report

Quoted By:

>>5485740
based and maskpilled

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:B7jzcpCm Sun 04 Dec 2022 22:11:14 No.5485999 Report

Quoted By:

>>5484962
>>Scramble for the last remaining stars

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Mon 05 Dec 2022 01:32:25 No.5486193 Report

Quoted By: >>5486207

>>5485509

By mistake I meant " I don't think it was the right choice for the enjoyment of the players" not "WM did it by accident."
>>5485420

Like for example I think it was a mistake for Disney to go with the Rise of Skywalker script over the Duel of the Fates script but I know that was there intention.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Mon 05 Dec 2022 01:33:49 No.5486194 Report

Quoted By:

>>5485631
>Yuan'tul

To be honest the Jataxians mostly did it to themselves. He wrote some books. The Monkes going all murder happy over them and then going all murder happy in response was on them (and us )

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Mon 05 Dec 2022 01:35:08 No.5486195 Report

Quoted By: >>5486199

>>5485818
I hate Bluey.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:zH8YJ43A Mon 05 Dec 2022 01:37:18 No.5486199 Report

Quoted By: >>5486206 >>5486207

>>5486195
I'm sure bluey hates you, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Mon 05 Dec 2022 01:40:54 No.5486206 Report

Quoted By:

>>5486199
I mean, probably. Given I(and everyone here) is a Xeno to him.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:EezdWneU Mon 05 Dec 2022 01:41:13 No.5486207 Report

Quoted By:

>>5486199
We are filthy xenos, so probably, yeah.

>>5486193
Having now heard all the alternate results of other choices (Kima raped, Jaxtian culture destroyed; Xenos saved, Hegemony government eternally hobbled), I actually think we made the right choices. I mean, not the MORALLY right choices, but the ine that resulted in the most interesting quest moving forwards, within the constraints of OP's setting and its internal logic.

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Mon 05 Dec 2022 02:54:52 No.5486273 Report

Quoted By: >>5486277 >>5486295 >>5486305

No update today, I'll try to get one out in a little over 24 hours from now.

For those who don't like Wrix- just know you've had three hidden chances so far for him to be transformed into a monster/deposed/assassinated and you've somehow skipped all of them lol

Also I can finally post this.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:R1Q2x2fP Mon 05 Dec 2022 02:58:24 No.5486277 Report

Quoted By:

>>5486273
I tried to have him taken away every time, but others votes against it

This isn't exactly a lack of consistence

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Mon 05 Dec 2022 03:43:35 No.5486295 Report

Quoted By: >>5486312 >>5486516

>>5486273
>spoiler
No one wanted him to use the machine. We actually voted for him to look for a successor as a write-in, I'm pretty sure that won and you ignored it. Not sure what could get him deposed, other than Cijan back in the previous thread, and I've been very vocal against the decision to have Cijan kneel and disappear. I still can't believe that people voted to purge spies instead of preparing for the inevitable war, but if I leaned one thing is that anons really, really fucking hate internal politics and divisions and are willing to pay any cost to eliminate either of those things.

Blaming us who don't like Wrix for failing to get rid of him really, really feels like you're rubbing salt in an open, gushing wound desu.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Mon 05 Dec 2022 04:01:06 No.5486305 Report

Quoted By: >>5486318

>>5486273
>Hidden
Well there's the problem right there. Instead of heading around the bush why not point blank gives us a vote to keep Wrix or move on.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Mon 05 Dec 2022 04:02:26 No.5486307 Report

Quoted By:

Hate Wrix, Hate Akule, hate Bluey.
Simple as.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DxdwzNGK Mon 05 Dec 2022 04:09:15 No.5486312 Report

Quoted By: >>5486407

>>5486295
>I still can't believe that people voted to purge spies instead of preparing for the inevitable war, but if I leaned one thing is that anons really, really fucking hate internal politics and divisions and are willing to pay any cost to eliminate either of those things.

Purging spies, and ensuring our house is in order is preparing for war. Goodness knows what kind of problems a spy riddled and divided Hegemony would have had during a full on war.

I think it's a devil you know type of thing. People would rather go for a straight fight with known disadvantages rather than unknown mystery box problems further down the line.

The opportunities to remove Wrix have never been taken because the collective of anons (mistakenely or not) believed that taking them would have lead to an unacceptable loss of cohesion in the Hegemony.

The moment Bananas offers us a way to get rid of Wrix without doing this. I bet the vote will finally go through.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Mon 05 Dec 2022 04:16:02 No.5486318 Report

Quoted By: >>5486348

>>5486305
This. Or give us the succession pick we voted for. Or explain why it didn't happen, since you ignored it. Ignoring votes with zero explanation feels terrible.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qdNE7n0J Mon 05 Dec 2022 04:51:58 No.5486348 Report

Quoted By: >>5486353

>>5486318
You don't just get to pick a new leader whenever you want and it wasn't the vote for it. Man, calm you fucking cope.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Mon 05 Dec 2022 04:54:59 No.5486353 Report

Quoted By: >>5486358

>>5486348
It was a vote to look into options, not to change immediately. Bananas could've placated the voters by showing 3 infants with interesting gene scores and everybody would've been happy. But it was ignored with zero communication instead.

This feels like it should QMing 101.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qdNE7n0J Mon 05 Dec 2022 04:59:19 No.5486358 Report

Quoted By: >>5486359

>>5486353
The majority of people did not even vote for that option, why would it be entertained? Most of the votes for ">Look into options for successors" also voted for another option too which is clearly against the rules when not using a VOW. The Hegemony also doesn't chose the next Supreme from infants, like shit nigga at least pretend to read the quest.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Mon 05 Dec 2022 05:01:30 No.5486359 Report

Quoted By: >>5486362

>>5486358
>also voted for another option too which is clearly against the rules when not using a VOW
Looking into successors doesn't take years. It takes about 2 minutes if you ask the AI.

>The Hegemony also doesn't chose the next Supreme from infants
I wasn't aware that future supreme candidates sprang fully formed from the earth.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Mon 05 Dec 2022 05:03:36 No.5486362 Report

Quoted By:

>>5486359
And more to the point, Bananas himself could've taken twenty seconds and gone

>No that's not a valid option

And there would've been zero confusion or acrimony. Because that's what happens in every single other quest when people write-in stuff that doesn't work. It's not about whether the option won or not, it's about the bizarre veil of silence the QM puts on for no reason to everybody's detriment.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Mon 05 Dec 2022 05:34:07 No.5486390 Report

Quoted By: >>5486598

I agree on all points. Monkequest was at one point the best quest here. It may still be. But I think it is going down the wrong path and needs to be course corrected before it becomes a cautionary tale in fallen glory.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Mon 05 Dec 2022 05:48:39 No.5486407 Report

Quoted By:

>>5486312
Agreed. I'll kick Wrix to retirement if the Hegemony doesn't fragment or collapse as a direct result.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:MsYzj+wx Mon 05 Dec 2022 09:49:09 No.5486516 Report

Quoted By:

>>5486295
>Blaming us who don't like Wrix for failing to get rid of him really, really feels like you're rubbing salt in an open, gushing wound desu.
Good. That's all you whiny faggots deserve.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Mon 05 Dec 2022 12:57:28 No.5486598 Report

Quoted By: >>5486635

>>5486390
insane cope

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Mon 05 Dec 2022 14:22:40 No.5486635 Report

Quoted By:

>>5486598
Cope about what?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Mon 05 Dec 2022 15:08:52 No.5486650 Report

Quoted By:

People here are so whiny, I was here since the first thread and always a xeno lover but I didn't complain when Wrix genocided them.

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:jLzCPgOu Mon 05 Dec 2022 15:14:24 No.5486651 Report

Quoted By: >>5486702 >>5486704 >>5486790 >>5486860 >>5486890

The planet Swallia, homeworld of the Swall, was constantly being fed propaganda from the Hegemony. Whenever the Swall developed a new form of communication; the Hegemony had already created new shows and entertainment for that medium. When the Swall first developed color television, there were already full color broadcasts of Jaxtian entertainment. When the internet became easily accessible by the masses; bite sized content was already being churned out by the Hegemonic authority. These shows were being created by AI and manipulated- each one subtly attempting to create and control narratives against the core Swall world government and systems of belief. Each one served dual purposes; both to wow and impress the Swall consumers with something free, easily accessible, and always up-to-date on their social issues and current events- faster then their own technology and society could react, and thus show Jaxtian superiority- as though life would be so much better under Hegemonic rule. The second purpose was to subtly instill the values of the Hegemony- collectivism, less emphasis on the individual, and the follies of capitalism. It never truly worked; as these programs were always seen as being tools for the Hegemony.

At some point soon, the final sub-light speed radio and audio transmissions will fly past Jaxt- travelling through the void of space from the final broadcast the Hegemonic government played for the Swall on the eve of their invasion.

There was a stern Jaxtian news anchor, sitting in a room intentionally made to look more primitive; walls covered in metal with visible instruments- to appear as though he was onboard the station that orbited Swalli- though in reality he was many light years away.

[blue]"Tomorrow's weather forecast shows clear skies. Fantastic day for vacation or shopping with the family. But business is booming with the invention of the vacuum engine- the Hegemonic authority has even been considering ceding control of Swallia's twin moons and allowing the Swall to fly missions out of their planet's exosphere. Progress has been steady in allowing the Swall's representatives in the Hegemonic Council of Alien Representatives to carry this message forward to the newest Supreme Ruler- Wrix Val. For this good news I bid all Swall on the planet below a very good night. Warm and safe shallows to you all, friends!"[/blue]

Meanwhile, the Swall government sent out their own message.

"...The Jaxtians are land animals. They will look to the land as more important then the water. To make the greatest impact, we will use the land. Remember the victory position. Feet together, family together, facing upwards. When they put their boots on the ground; this is what they will see of our people."

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Mon 05 Dec 2022 16:43:51 No.5486702 Report

Quoted By: >>5486796

>>5486651
…uh, neat?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:L9dA2clq Mon 05 Dec 2022 16:47:11 No.5486704 Report

Quoted By: >>5486709 >>5486735 >>5486796

>>5486651
This feels like it's missing a post

Did you accidentally forget to out the rest? This feels incomplete.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Mon 05 Dec 2022 16:57:53 No.5486709 Report

Quoted By: >>5486735 >>5486796 >>5487110

>>5486704
I think this is the post. I honestly don’t know why he’d post it desu. It bring up complicated feelings.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bU8UqQz4 Mon 05 Dec 2022 17:51:15 No.5486735 Report

Quoted By: >>5486770

>>5486704
>>5486709
I don't think this is the real Bananas

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Mon 05 Dec 2022 18:23:08 No.5486770 Report

Quoted By: >>5486773 >>5486796 >>5486907

>>5486735
Can’t see anyone else writing this

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ZrswqMhd Mon 05 Dec 2022 18:25:52 No.5486773 Report

Quoted By: >>5486786

>>5486770
Bananas had a dedicated mimic a few threads back

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Mon 05 Dec 2022 18:37:58 No.5486786 Report

Quoted By: >>5486796 >>5486907 >>5486930

>>5486773
I mean, I can sorta see it? The picture is off, and so is the writing style. Still, why all the tomfoolery?

I just realized the Swall had less effort dedicated to their species than the Worm Assassination subplot. Feelsbadman.exe

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:q4DZ3NYd Mon 05 Dec 2022 18:42:10 No.5486790 Report

Quoted By:

>>5486651
Nice reference.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Mon 05 Dec 2022 18:57:18 No.5486796 Report

Quoted By: >>5487591

>>5486702
>>5486704
>>5486709
>>5486770
>>5486786
It's a 1 post by this ID dumbasses

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:UoMo6/go Mon 05 Dec 2022 20:33:12 No.5486860 Report

Quoted By: >>5487591

>>5486651
>that id
>that pic
>that fucked up tag
>last message said it would be over 24 hours
Fake and gay.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+SpE2tFU Mon 05 Dec 2022 21:10:02 No.5486890 Report

Quoted By: >>5486907 >>5487591 >>5487860

>>5486651
>puts this much effort into trolling
>still half-assed and fails to bait

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Mon 05 Dec 2022 21:34:35 No.5486907 Report

Quoted By: >>5486930

>>5486890
It baited QFXcpWGW pretty good.

>>5486770
>>5486786
It's a Local 58 reference, to a satirical horror broadcast about a fictitious plan to combat any successful invasion of the USA with a mass suicide, so as to preserve the untarnished memory of America as a land free of occupation and compromise. Fitting, for the Swall, I suppose.

Alas, poor fishmen, we hardly knew ye.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Mon 05 Dec 2022 22:00:01 No.5486930 Report

Quoted By:

>>5486786
>>5486907
Itstillhurts.gifpeg

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jLzCPgOu Tue 06 Dec 2022 00:26:56 No.5487041 Report

Quoted By: >>5487048 >>5487055

Guys... I'm posting remotely. I'll be able to update for real soon enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qXcsrMM9 Tue 06 Dec 2022 00:33:58 No.5487048 Report

Quoted By: >>5487115 >>5487591 >>5487892

>>5487041
Begone false banana, your update was poor and grating

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Tue 06 Dec 2022 00:39:25 No.5487055 Report

Quoted By: >>5487115 >>5487591

>>5487041
lol your filename doesn't even match Bananas' naming scheme, 0/10 apply yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DxdwzNGK Tue 06 Dec 2022 01:42:48 No.5487110 Report

Quoted By:

>>5486709
It's just an extra lore snippet. I won't agonize over it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Zbp5aNTF Tue 06 Dec 2022 01:48:59 No.5487115 Report

Quoted By:

>>5487055
>>5487048
lol
notice the failed formatting tags?

PlantainMD

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PlantainMD ID:rZIgfzk1 Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:21:25 No.5487195 Report

Quoted By: >>5487281

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Tue 06 Dec 2022 05:22:35 No.5487276 Report

Quoted By: >>5487277 >>5487281

I think I deserve an apology.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Tue 06 Dec 2022 05:23:41 No.5487277 Report

Quoted By:

>>5487276
No.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Tue 06 Dec 2022 05:24:11 No.5487278 Report

Quoted By:

All jokes aside welcome back. I hope you are okay.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Tue 06 Dec 2022 05:27:51 No.5487281 Report

Quoted By: >>5487376

>>5487276
Welcome back, QM.

>>5487195
Space Duck confirmed for next Supreme.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bU8UqQz4 Tue 06 Dec 2022 07:36:49 No.5487376 Report

Quoted By:

>>5487281
Can't be worse than the current supreme

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Tue 06 Dec 2022 14:04:55 No.5487539 Report

Quoted By:

Rolled 1 (1d2)

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Tue 06 Dec 2022 15:34:27 No.5487591 Report

Quoted By: >>5487605 >>5487629 >>5487645 >>5487646 >>5487672 >>5487709 >>5487717 >>5487840 >>5487846 >>5487892 >>5487922 >>5488051

Alright so status report the update is currently finished but I am not going to post it until I receive my apology. Like I said, I had some stuff to do and couldn't get back home until a few hours ago- but managed to borrow someone's computer and make that roaming lore update just to tide people over, using /qst/s default drawing function (and I forgot that only the OP ID can do formatting). But people were really rude about it for me trying to go above and beyond and not be inactive due to real life stuff.

>>5486796
>>5486860
>>5486890
>>5487048
>>5487055
I would like an apology from all of you. I spend a lot of time and effort on this quest, often 2-3 hours a day drawing and writing, I don't appreciate it when people not only don't even care about what I make but actively insult me for doing it. These last two threads have been nothing but constant negativity, complaining, and people refusing to engage with my game on my terms and I'm not going to tolerate it any more.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:dP9Rb6S3 Tue 06 Dec 2022 15:44:40 No.5487605 Report

Quoted By: >>5487607 >>5487627

>>5487591
I still think this game is awesome, fuck the coping faggots. I apologize for not bullying them harder into leaving. I also assumed it was just a cool lore drop like the many others you have done in the history of this quest. Keep up the good work dude

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bU8UqQz4 Tue 06 Dec 2022 15:48:26 No.5487607 Report

Quoted By:

>>5487605
t. 1 post id

I'm not going anywhere. Keep seething faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:IJjuuq7+ Tue 06 Dec 2022 16:08:44 No.5487622 Report

Quoted By: >>5487629

>muh apologize
lol no

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:IJjuuq7+ Tue 06 Dec 2022 16:14:12 No.5487627 Report

Quoted By: >>5487681

>>5487605
>make post in different account in the middle of day with different naming and art style, use same account to say 'yep totally me bro'
>surprised when people say it's not you
where do you think we are

i'm certain people will apologize to get more though, regardless of being right

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bU8UqQz4 Tue 06 Dec 2022 16:14:55 No.5487629 Report

Quoted By: >>5487631

>>5487622
t. 1 post id

>>5487591
You should have a real trip

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:IJjuuq7+ Tue 06 Dec 2022 16:16:22 No.5487631 Report

Quoted By: >>5487642

>>5487629
>le 1 post by id!!!
is what happens every day, due to dynamic IPs

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bU8UqQz4 Tue 06 Dec 2022 16:35:44 No.5487642 Report

Quoted By: >>5487653

>>5487631
It's just strange that 1 post ids are always stirring up shit and attacking Bananas or other players. Makes one think.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Tue 06 Dec 2022 16:39:50 No.5487645 Report

Quoted By: >>5487681

>>5487591
Mate, firstly, get a trip.
Secondly, (You) yourself weren't insulted, the guy who made a close but with minute differences in the artstyle and writing was insulted when anons' con/qst/ador Uncanny Valley detector neurons went off at a percived impostor.
Thirdly, to say that this thread isn't already better than the last two is to be blind. The complains about Wrix and Cijan are already diminishing, the Hegemony got over its internal problems and we now have a clear enemy to fight and unite against. The players' faith in the Hegemony is finally rising after so much time.
Things are going well, let's not get caught up in more retardation and chalk this up to general 4chan 'tism.

Example !!idim2jK7nP8

Example !!idim2jK7nP8 ID:kOiU3zok Tue 06 Dec 2022 16:41:32 No.5487646 Report

Quoted By: >>5487681

>>5487591
I think this is a problem that could've easily been avoided in the first place by having a secured tripcode, as above. Kinda the nature of the beast when your trip is just some words anyone can use AND you're one of the most active quests, people will assume anyone with a different ID is gonna be a faker.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Tue 06 Dec 2022 16:45:16 No.5487648 Report

Quoted By:

but really there was no point having so much of a fuss over it even if it WAS a faker. It was a tiny lore snippet, not some dude making an actual fake update to mess with people. 4chan autism wins again.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:q4DZ3NYd Tue 06 Dec 2022 16:52:23 No.5487653 Report

Quoted By:

>>5487642
I'm sure it wouldn't be the first time there was an organized attempt to "own 4chan facsts" on /qst/.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:UoMo6/go Tue 06 Dec 2022 17:29:18 No.5487672 Report

Quoted By:

>>5487591
I will say sorry but you gotta admit my reasons for saying that post was very suspect weren't entirely wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Tue 06 Dec 2022 17:47:30 No.5487681 Report

Quoted By:

>>5487627
>>5487645
>>5487646
+1
just get a trip it takes two seconds and solves 100% of the problem instantly

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Tue 06 Dec 2022 18:41:11 No.5487709 Report

Quoted By:

>>5487591
Nice to know I wasn’t a dumbass. Now knowing the Local 52 reference, I think it’s pretty funny desu.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:9Ozxzlz5 Tue 06 Dec 2022 18:51:49 No.5487717 Report

Quoted By:

>>5487591
Anons are retarded. Sorry QM. Irl takes precedent.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Tue 06 Dec 2022 21:14:22 No.5487840 Report

Quoted By:

>>5487591
While I'm not one of the people who got all hostile and shitty at you, and I think it was a neat (if sad) reference... I am sorry people have become so pointlessly aggressive to one another, and especially to you. I don't always agree with every QM decision you make, but it's ultimately quite evident that you are one of the most dedicated and high-effort QMs on the board. You definitely don't deserve the level of vitriol that a small, loud minority is spitting at you.

I recognize and appreciate your effort.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ggapY2TH Tue 06 Dec 2022 21:20:02 No.5487846 Report

Quoted By: >>5487850 >>5488051

>>5487591
You do this for free and out of your own volition. Nobody makes you spend 3 hours every day on a thankless activity that makes you feel like shit. Moreso, it is YOUR fault for not keeping your autists in check, cultivating one of the shittiest playerbases on /qst/ and not responding to their piling up criticisms until your fuckup and backlash makes you write an emotionally-charged, impotent blackmail.
Tl;dr: Eat a dick, you're going to continue writing and I'll continue reading.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bU8UqQz4 Tue 06 Dec 2022 21:25:47 No.5487850 Report

Quoted By: >>5487858 >>5487860 >>5487868

>>5487846
>Another 1 post id shitting on Bananas
Curious. Very curious.

If Bananas has made a mistake, it was that he never implemented even the most basic anti-samefagging measures, even for contested, vitriolic votes that kept being swayed by new ids. This is the inevitable result.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Tue 06 Dec 2022 21:34:47 No.5487858 Report

Quoted By:

>>5487850
RQM has a good and not too taxing system. I wonder how different things would be if it had been implemented here.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ggapY2TH Tue 06 Dec 2022 21:39:16 No.5487860 Report

Quoted By: >>5487868 >>5487872 >>5488051

>>5487850
I'll shit on him all I want, cause he's a fucking pussy and none of you ass-licking faggots will look him in the eye and say it.
I'm >>5486890, not that it changes anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Tue 06 Dec 2022 21:54:47 No.5487868 Report

Quoted By: >>5487871

>>5487850
I remember Royal Rumble desu.

Samefagging isn’t the problem, it’s simply growing pains that everyone is blowing out of proportion.

>>5487860
He’s isn’t a pussy. He’s still here, and been very blunt and upfront about his mistakes, which takes a hell of a lot of courage to admit publicly. I may have my gripes with the narrative, but Bananas didn’t flake when the playerbase turned acidic, he bit the bullet and continued on, and he has my respect for that.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bU8UqQz4 Tue 06 Dec 2022 22:00:06 No.5487871 Report

Quoted By: >>5487877 >>5487879

>>5487868
>I remember Royal Rumble desu.
Then you remember how it died. It's not a waifu war this time, but I see the similarities.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:q4DZ3NYd Tue 06 Dec 2022 22:01:17 No.5487872 Report

Quoted By:

>>5487860
-That's- your motivation for being an asshole to BananasQM?
Bullshit. I'm not even going to tell you to take your meds.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Tue 06 Dec 2022 22:10:41 No.5487877 Report

Quoted By: >>5487879

Reminder that at least one person has admitted in the /QTG/ to not caring about the actual quest and just coming here to fight.

>>5487871
Royal Rumble died because Sojourner is a thin-skinned attention whore who has flaked on every single quest he's ever made. It should not be an instructive example for anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Tue 06 Dec 2022 22:18:59 No.5487879 Report

Quoted By:

>>5487871
>>5487877
I think it’s a bit more than that. Hostile Anon was a contributing factor.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:q4DZ3NYd Tue 06 Dec 2022 22:38:40 No.5487889 Report

Quoted By: >>5487910 >>5487944

I think there are people who feel afraid and angry when reading this quest.
The artistic vision makes them shake with fear and the fact that people lap it up because they have found an oasis of originality and uncommonly used ideas in a desert of bland, repetitive, politically-correct, designated acceptable, marketable SAMENESS angers them.

How dare you depict this or that? How DARE players enjoy being a Supreme leader? How DARE you play around with building and manipulating cultures and economies in a colonialist authoritarian empire FOR FUN?

That's right, coward(s), if there is even more than one of you or its all just samefagging.

Its a popular idea that would never be on tv because its not politically correct or a cautionary tale and people are so used to everything being a fucking author tract they'd wrongfully see it as some kind of an endorsement of this or that ideology when for artist purposes it has transcended ideology for the sake of exploring a fictional world with the only motivation being fun. Not profit or pushing an ideology but blasphemous FUN!

You can't stop the signal.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:0kNnDDai Tue 06 Dec 2022 22:40:39 No.5487892 Report

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>>5487591
>>5487048
Lol this was me, Ill apologize as it was actually you who posted BQM, but its not my fault the ID wasnt yours, the Trip wasnt yours, the artstyle didnt look like yours, the writing seemed out of pace to your usual bumps even if theyre just lore snippets, and it was obviously not an image from your computer as none of us could recognize anything that could tell us it was you outside of some "lore" which we couldve easily interpreted as someone writing fanfiction about the Swall since we didnt get hardly any time learning about them ooc since we genocided them, so exxcuuuuuuuuse me mister, still love the quest but im blameless and like my updates, seemed fake so I posted, I dont feel bad about what I said as it wasnt for you, but I am sorry you were on the receiving end

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:CgN+A6KV Tue 06 Dec 2022 23:08:45 No.5487910 Report

Quoted By:

>>5487889
This persecution complex on 4chan of all places is hilarious. I like this quest just fine despite being pretty SJW IRL. Do you seriously think the assholes calling Bananas "faggot" and "retarded" are big into political correctness? Calm down. It's just belligerent and entitled losers, not a culture war.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Zbp5aNTF Tue 06 Dec 2022 23:34:47 No.5487922 Report

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>>5487591
I actually pointed out the formatting implying a troll wouldn't use (or try using) it, but didn't add the conclusion like a pussy. whoops. but glad you're finally taking a firm stand against the screeching autists. thank you for all your hard work, this quest is truly enjoyable to read and the only one I regularly check.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Tue 06 Dec 2022 23:51:31 No.5487944 Report

Quoted By: >>5488016

>>5487889
>only motivation being fun. Not profit or pushing an ideology but blasphemous FUN!

Maybe for BQM but a lot of players are for sure acting out IRL political fantasies in their votes.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DxdwzNGK Wed 07 Dec 2022 01:24:33 No.5488016 Report

Quoted By: >>5488051 >>5488121 >>5488201

>>5487944
You don't know that. And even if it was true the only fantasies I see being acted out are people trying to guide the hegemony towards being more pluralistic and ethical using pragmatism as an excuse.

The un-disguised alt-right doomer philosophy of Akule was roundly shat on by the playerbase. The only reason Wrix the Unspeakable happened was because people understimated what donning the mask would do and/or were willing to secure the power of the Supreme Ruler at any cost.

And finally I reject the idea that a creator has to be responsible for the actions of their fanbase. Consuming this work does not automatically make me an extension of the author's opinions. I am capable of entertaining the ideas presented in this quest without internalising them IRL. If there are any actual facists jizzing themselves over the genocide of these fictional aliens while imagining them to be RL minorites, that's disgusting, but that is on them and them ALONE.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:CgN+A6KV Wed 07 Dec 2022 01:54:11 No.5488051 Report

Quoted By: >>5488069 >>5488075 >>5488095 >>5488121

>>5488016
You, uh, sure have very selective memory if you don't recall the many people getting all frothing mad about feminism in Boys & Girls, or positively horny about genociding the Hazaar.

I do agree that it's not BQM's fault, though. Well, I mean, the nature of playing a fascist, sexist, racust totalitarian regime (including lengthy monologues from characters about their ideological justifications) is probably uniquely alluring and/or infuriating to culture warriors both left and right. Even without that pull, though, 4chan (especially post-2016 4chan) just attracts a certain crowd. While I don't like it, I also don't think that those weird fascists are the actual problem children in this particular quest. It just also isn't some mob of politically correct saboteurs. It is, again, just entitled, salty, perpetually-belligerent shitheads who vome to 4chan for the specific purpose of being unnecessarily rude under the veil of quasi-anonymity.

I do wish Bananas wouldn't hold an update hostage waiting for the very worst of the players to apologize, though. They won't. Weilding this sort of unilateral power over the QM and quest is what those sort of douchecanoes live for, as shoecased nicely by >>5487846 and >>5487860.

>>5487591
I know the negative feedback is what seems loudest, but try to focus on the positive. You have far more players who like the quest than those who dislike it. There are far more people rallying to your defence than looking to tear you down. I've been where you are in my own quest-writing, but if you keep trucking and don't feed the trolls (or give them power like this), they will get bored and leave or fall in line.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Wed 07 Dec 2022 02:08:42 No.5488069 Report

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>>5488051
good post

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DxdwzNGK Wed 07 Dec 2022 02:15:36 No.5488075 Report

Quoted By: >>5488419

>>5488051
>You, uh, sure have very selective memory if you don't recall the many people getting all frothing mad about feminism in Boys & Girls, or positively horny about genociding the Hazaar.

Yeah anons made a stink about feminism, but the votes that won were the ones that pushed Kima to dream of ruling the Hegemony and engagein Supreme Ruler training. The anons had their chance to make the first female Supreme but balked at the final choice when faced with that moral dilemna.

As for the hazaar the main reason people had a hate boner for the hazaar is because they were such a huge cultural and ideological liability to the hegemony. Most people had no problem subjugating the swall and vetuckers, but they didn't want to keep the hazaar around in any capacity. And they wouldn't have if it weren't for Talacent.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DxdwzNGK Wed 07 Dec 2022 02:32:09 No.5488095 Report

Quoted By: >>5488111

>>5488051
>You, uh, sure have very selective memory...

If the point you're making is that a lot of anons want to genocide the aliens, put Jaxtians first etc, etc then yeah. That is a thing, there seems to be a significant portion of the player base that wants that.

My point is that more often than not the votes that win are the the ones that attempt to steer the hegemony away from unnecessary cruelty and arbitrary discrimination.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Wed 07 Dec 2022 02:41:18 No.5488111 Report

Quoted By: >>5488126

>>5488095
I suppose that's mostly true, insofar as while
> the only fantasies I see being acted out are people trying to guide the hegemony towards being more pluralistic and ethical using pragmatism as an excuse
isn't really true, that side WAS winning for quite some time until Thread 7

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Wed 07 Dec 2022 02:52:48 No.5488121 Report

Quoted By: >>5488130 >>5488145 >>5488209

>>5488016
>>5488051
You guys hit a cornerstone I am going to expand later on, between the playerbase being polarized into the Larpers and the Moralfags. It’s also interesting that you can see this dichotomy in Pizzeria Quest, especially when creating Remnant was discussed.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Wed 07 Dec 2022 02:55:25 No.5488126 Report

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>>5488111
I don’t think it was a side until the quest polarized into voting blocks desu.

Gonna pass out now.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:IJjuuq7+ Wed 07 Dec 2022 02:55:45 No.5488128 Report

Quoted By: >>5489859

Hazaar deserve genocide, though

They are disgusting. Tens of thousands of years of space age civilization and not a single moral civilization.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Wed 07 Dec 2022 02:56:07 No.5488130 Report

Quoted By:

>>5488121
you BETTER deliver on this, essayanon

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DxdwzNGK Wed 07 Dec 2022 03:12:38 No.5488145 Report

Quoted By: >>5488156

>>5488121
For the record my "side" in this quest is pro-hegemony as an institution. The Supreme Ruler must always be supreme, and the Hegemony must defeat entropy.

Whether it does this as a pure Jaxtian ethostate, a hegemonic empire with multiple vassal races, or some kind of transcendant post-jaxtian entity does not matter to me.

Dunno if that makes me a LARPer or not.

>You guys hit a cornerstone I am going to expand later on...

I see the tradition of State Philosophy lives on in the quest's meta discussion.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Wed 07 Dec 2022 03:23:47 No.5488156 Report

Quoted By: >>5488763

>>5488145
>The Supreme Ruler must always be supreme, and the Hegemony must defeat entropy.
I'm in favour of this as a philosophical tenet that the Hegemony's main protagonists can agree upon as a throughline. Otherwise, I think I'm actually kind of a swing voter, rather than part of either major "voting block" that has developed. I'm not sympathetic to fascism, so I'm not LARPing, but I also don't mind playing imperfect, flawed, or evil characters, so I also don't try to make the Hegemony reflect my real-life politics or get mad when it doesn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:my8YLjxc Wed 07 Dec 2022 04:06:00 No.5488201 Report

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>>5488016
> If there are any actual facists jizzing themselves over the genocide of these fictional aliens while imagining them to be RL minorites, that's disgusting, but that is on them and them ALONE.

You're right but it makes the quest less enjoyable overall.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:my8YLjxc Wed 07 Dec 2022 04:11:17 No.5488209 Report

Quoted By: >>5488719

>>5488121
What happened in Pizza quest?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Wed 07 Dec 2022 06:58:30 No.5488419 Report

Quoted By:

>>5488075
>Most people had no problem subjugating the swall and vetuckers, but they didn't want to keep the hazaar around in any capacity.
And a huge part of the current problem is that the aliens who people wanted to subjugate are dead and the aliens that people didn't want to keep around in any capacity are still very much around.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WNdviKv+ Wed 07 Dec 2022 09:04:06 No.5488475 Report

Quoted By: >>5488626

I hope folks here can come to understand that the users here are not disembodied walls of texts with the ocassional pretty picture, but real, breathing people with actual lives and actual reaction to what is said of them.

If Bananas says he's reached a breaking point from all the constaint destructive criticism and name-calling, it's understandable he won't want to tell us stories anymore, at least for a good while.

Do what you think is healthier, Bananas.
Thank you for the adventure so far, and for those you bring in the future.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JPq2AC17 Wed 07 Dec 2022 13:12:32 No.5488626 Report

Quoted By: >>5488654

>>5488475
He chose to burn things to the ground without even asking for the courtesy of a vote. He chose not to do anything about the players' concerns, not even to call for a vote when it because clear just how much people hated this. He chose to barge forward in an unpopular direction, even ignoring a write-in that would have been the bare minimum course correction. He chose to make fun of the people who are dissatisfied with the direction this quest is going and play it off as if it's they're fault that they no longer enjoy this quest. No,it's his own damn fault for not only not doing anything to fix the growing problems, but also pouring gas to the fire every chance he got. People get upset when something they liked changes into something they don't, especially if it's something they used to help steer and now no longer have any real say in. Who'd have thought?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qMKUZkE7 Wed 07 Dec 2022 13:40:38 No.5488654 Report

Quoted By:

>>5488626
>1 post by this id

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Wed 07 Dec 2022 14:55:07 No.5488719 Report

Quoted By:

>>5488209
In Pizza Quest, one of the tasks that needs to be done is getting Remnant, which requires killing kids. It's a FNAF inspired thing. People have heated debates over whether to kill those kids or to try half-measures like only injuring them.

So you got the larpers (those who go full kid murder for the sake of PROFIT!!!) and the moralfags (no killing kids is bad actually).

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Wed 07 Dec 2022 15:16:04 No.5488736 Report

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You have decided to Scramble for the last remaining stars; the tiny star cluster nearest to the Consortium will put you directly into border tensions with the large power; but it's better then letting them have them just uncontested.

The two stars, who are given numerical classifications instead of proper names due to irrelevance to the Hegemony's core culture, do not harbor any life-sustaining planets. The Red Giant is oribted by a handful of planets and moons, where as the White Dwarf is far smaller and with a lesser gravitation pull- only having a gas giant and a cluster of icy asteroids. The strategic value of the cluster is questionable, but nobody questions the Supreme Ruler's decision.

But as luck would have it one rocky, toxic planet orbiting the Red Giant just so happens to have deposits of Azurium! This strategic resource will be of great usefulness to the Hegemony. While it isn't a motherload like the one that regrettable fell into the hands of the Esaal from the Baalathi systems; it will be able to outfit your starships cruisers or the rest of your society- one way or another- just as soon as shipping lanes and foundries, and the population to support them, move to the far off star. The beginnings are just happening now- after about 5 years.

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Wed 07 Dec 2022 15:17:05 No.5488739 Report

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In the many years since the original invasion and destruction of the Swall- the intelligent fish-man species who lived on their aquatic planet within the Hegemony's space; the planet was in many lefts a ghost town. The cities were flattened, bunkers busted, and infrastructure destroyed in the cleansing. Over the past 20 years or so, the world has been left to heal somewhat by the Hegemonic authority. The Swall were amphibious, so simply stealing their buildings and infrastructure wasn't an option. Already, the planet's biosphere shows great signs of recovery as their resident intelligent species no longer exist to leech off it and pollute it.

But now; comes the question of what next.

Your infrastructure Overseer, Mann Yumm, is too tepid to dare make such a large decision without your imput.

”The planet has value, as any life sustaining world does, my lordship. But I have some concerns about colonization-”
”Do not bother me with triffles, Mann.”
”Eep! No Sir- it's not that. I simply am not sure how to maximize our newly gained planet...”
”Why are you my overseer then? Why are you having difficulties with this?”
”The planet is... depleted. Much like Jaxt itself when it entered the space age- why finding nuclear materials and building the industrial base on Schoon was important to earlier Supreme Rulers. Swallia was the home of a world-spanning, industrialized society with billions of members. They were even restricted on their world past the point when they could have begun moving into space. All of the near sea-floor metallic deposits have already been mined. Nuclear materials are nearly exhausted. Lithium is nonexistent- the most common crime on the planet pre-invasion was actually stealing batteries for that reason! The Swall did a good job at trying to perserve the natural world with “responsible capitalism”, but with any conflict of interest the natural world and animal life will be the first on the chopping block. It was impossible for them to clean up all the microplastics even after they invented non-shedding plastic alternatives, like us.”
”I see.”
”But the main reason I came to you was to ask for your permission to do something radical.”

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Wed 07 Dec 2022 15:18:06 No.5488741 Report

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”I call it- The Great City!”

Within a flash, his hologram projector AI shows the image of Swalli suddenly transforming; the water quickly grows to cover the mountains, before changing color from algae blooms. Tiny hologram ships go in and out of the ocean itself; Mann beams. It's clear this is his great project he's been thinking about for a long time- perhaps even before the Swall extermination campaign.

”I know, my lord, that the Hegemony puts a great emphasis on the natural world and preserving nature and the climate of habitable planets; it was even one of the reasons our great Hegemony is founded. But Swalli as a planet is ecologically not useful to us. There is too much water and not enough land, not enough useful resources to justify mining and exploiting it with factories. So instead, I had this concept for a project. Flatten the planet's mountains and landscapes, bring on material from its twin moons, cover the entire planet in its ocean by filling in the sea floor. As we do this; we build a massive city just underneath the planet's crust- eventually expanding to the entire sphere- digging as deep as we need. The planet will be self sufficient; able to grow oxygen-rich or even food algae; since the planet is in the habitable zone; and able to siphon deuterium from the water above to power the fusion reactors. It would even be highly defendable- the ocean above the city will lessen the effects of any kinetic weapons or warheads; though it won't stop a truly dedicated attacker. This industrialized planet could support a population of hundreds of billions all on its own. Of course, doing this would mean wiping out Swalli's natural ecosystem and habitat...”
”But what about the building costs? Surely they'd be astronomical?”

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Wed 07 Dec 2022 15:20:23 No.5488743 Report

”That's the best part; the Swall have already uncovered most of their planet's useful metals and construction materials- and we have the planet's twin moons to work with. Water is one of the most common substances in the universe; but shipping it to a barren planet to try something similar would take a very long time and be very wasteful in terms of spending. The only issue would be to resist the oceanic pressures, the city would need Azurium for its construction...”
”That Azurium is reserved for military use, Mann.”
”I know, my lord. And it is not my place to speculate on the Hegeony's military situation... I simply cannot hide the potential of this project! Please consider it!”

Mann Yumm's project is a big one. It also goes against some core tenants of the Hegemony itself; only a strong government can protect the biosphere in an industrialized world. But it's important not to get caught into spiritual thinking; there is nothing inherently valuable about a natural planet's ecosystem. Especially Swalli- whose planet has already gone through the mass extinction event that occurs whenever any industrialized species evolves on a planet. They'd had already done a good job trying to catalog and keep genetic records of the various wild animals and plants as they slowly went extinct- even now while the planet heals from a lack of serious colonization it is still a shadow of its former biodiversity. To destroy it utterly? It would be an act of reverse-transforming- turning a living planet into a totally unnatural construction- but one that would be incredible useful. Even your limited experience in city-planning and urban design can see how valuable such a world would be. Billions of families for workers, taxes, culture and scientific research...

Then there is the second concern; of the Esaal. The lucky find of Azurium was practically guaranteed to be put towards some military application; but truthfully, does it need to be? Azurium armor would be a great boon to your spaceship armor; but it still won't give you battleships on its own nor will it help you counter the Esaal's dark ships or other weapons. Secondly; Cijans theory is right. Since all this time, the Esaal have not attacked the Hegemony again. After the spy warfare and deep-space reconnaissance you've found nothing to indicate more Esaal activity headed your way. It seems highly likely the Esaal are not planning on escalating the conflict further. Of course, using the newfound Azurium this way would limit your ability to be aggressive towards the Esaal if you wished to campaign against them yourself- though you're not sure if you have the will to another act. Even the thought donning that mask again for a genocide crusade against the Esaal fills you with a deep sense of hollowness...

At the very least, Mann Yumm has earned a moment of your time. What is your choice?

>Build the City-Planet
>Decline the Proposal

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Wed 07 Dec 2022 15:24:51 No.5488745 Report

Quoted By: >>5489865

>>5488743
>Build the City-Planet
I like it, sounds very cool and useful.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:e5Q8cpLW Wed 07 Dec 2022 15:33:00 No.5488752 Report

Quoted By: >>5488801 >>5489865

>>5488743
>Decline the Proposal
We don't have the time to build a city-planet when we should be preparing for a war.

Also ecumenopolises are soulless.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:l5B0crVZ Wed 07 Dec 2022 15:38:30 No.5488754 Report

Quoted By: >>5489865

>>5488743
>>Build the City-Planet

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Wed 07 Dec 2022 15:40:13 No.5488757 Report

Quoted By: >>5489865

>>5488743
>Build the City-Planet
Fuck it, I'm curious to see where this goes.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Wed 07 Dec 2022 15:46:57 No.5488760 Report

Quoted By: >>5488880 >>5489865

>>5488743
>Decline the Proposal
It would be a waste, not just of Azurium, but the workers and time invested in the construction of a underground ecumenopolis can instead be used to expand our shipyards and space colonies.
Also, cities are horrible and a globe-spanning UNDERGROUND city for our MONKEYS is an awful concept, remember that time our soldiers got disoriented by the flat layout of Esaal ships? Imagine the behavioural sink in a xity under the sea.
We have an unlimited space to build O'neill Cylinders and other habitats, let's not get literally bogged down.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WN8aanpp Wed 07 Dec 2022 15:53:58 No.5488763 Report

Quoted By: >>5488801 >>5489589

>>5488743
>Decline the Proposal
Betraying a core Hegemonic principle WHILE failing to prepare for armed conflict after poking the Consortium? I dunno...

>>5488156 is me, btw

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XxodzNpg Wed 07 Dec 2022 16:24:17 No.5488792 Report

Quoted By: >>5488801 >>5489865

>>5488743
>Decline the Proposal
We've already spent time too much time on non-war stuff. We have to deal with the upcoming war so we won't be destroyed. Only then should we be messing with this kind of stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ejGIOUus Wed 07 Dec 2022 16:29:16 No.5488793 Report

Quoted By: >>5488801 >>5489865

>>5488743
>Decline
Mann's idea isn't bad per sa, other than breaking tradition, but we just can't make such a lofty project when we're about to go to war. Even if the Season aren't going to escalate it, war is on the horizon. Sooner or later, it'll happen, and it's retarded to not prepare just because "it might happen later"

We don't even have battleships.

This is me by the way>>5482543

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:I/YdQWK6 Wed 07 Dec 2022 16:41:06 No.5488801 Report

Quoted By: >>5488823 >>5488839

>>5488752
>>5488763
>>5488792
>>5488793
There is no war. The Consortium are weak pussies and the Esaal have LITERALLY never attacked us except in retaliation or self defense. We even just defeated the spies who are the only way the worms could actually do anything to us.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Wed 07 Dec 2022 16:51:57 No.5488816 Report

Quoted By: >>5489865

>>5488743
>Build the City-Planet
Might as well

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:3lIjXAQW Wed 07 Dec 2022 16:58:59 No.5488823 Report

Quoted By: >>5488880

>>5488801
There is no war now, but you're retarded if you can't see the writing on the wall

War is inevitable, and making an gigantic civilian project on the eve of war is stupid. Fuck, we don't even know when the Cyte is coming. We need to sink our resources into battleship production now.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XxodzNpg Wed 07 Dec 2022 17:25:33 No.5488839 Report

Quoted By:

>>5488801
Just because they aren't going to attack us immediately doesn't mean we shouldn't prepare.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:/2E16v1C Wed 07 Dec 2022 17:27:46 No.5488840 Report

Quoted By: >>5489216

>Abstain
Giving a bit of feedback that the quest isn't as fun as it was in the past and it's getting hard to connect with the Hegemony as player characters after the events of the past few threads.

They were always dictatorial but they've gotten more and more brutal to the point where it feels like I am playing FATAL some times.

I am making this post it hopes that The QM can incorporate the feedback into the progression of the work.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Wed 07 Dec 2022 18:10:07 No.5488860 Report

Quoted By: >>5489865

>>5488743
>Decline the Proposal
>With a caveat that if Yumm can think of a way to go forward with this project WITHOUT using our Azurium supply he can go ahead.

It's not a terrible idea, but I don't think it's what we need right now. With the numbers that we lost in the Purge, and with Vetuck and all the HVS worlds newly opened for Jaxtian settlement, we haven't had so much open room to play with since back when Xin and Andoen were newly opened.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Wed 07 Dec 2022 18:26:22 No.5488880 Report

Quoted By: >>5488938 >>5489865

>>5488823
The writing on the wall says:
>the Esaal are not planning on escalating the conflict further
If we don't piss them off more, nothing is going to happen.

That being said, I agree with >>5488760's rationale about this being a bad idea. I'd be happy to use Azurium in a non-combat capacity, but I'm not so sure about this one.

>>5488743
>Decline the Proposal

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:dP9Rb6S3 Wed 07 Dec 2022 19:15:17 No.5488934 Report

Quoted By: >>5489865

>>5488743
>Build the City-Planet

The Esaal are not attacking and we need to boost our industry, this is why we expanded in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:e5Q8cpLW Wed 07 Dec 2022 19:18:00 No.5488938 Report

Quoted By:

>>5488880
They're not planning on escalating it now, but we've literally had one of our cities bombarded by them. We're going to fight eventually. Even if it's not now, it'll happen sometime.

Our industry is already superior to the esaal, what we need is military power.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:q4DZ3NYd Wed 07 Dec 2022 19:37:22 No.5488956 Report

Quoted By: >>5489865

>>5488743
>Decline the Proposal

While colonization is always good, this is really an expensive bunker for a disaster that would be beyond recovering from but also a big, fancy target for more Essal unconventional weapons

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:GdvbUJ2V Wed 07 Dec 2022 20:40:55 No.5489005 Report

Quoted By: >>5489865

>>5488743
>Decline the Proposal

I’m not against the idea per say, I just don’t believe it is a priority for us at this time.

Our resources and effort should be focused on military expansion and colonial growth

What tech are we working on anyway?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RfKISD4r Wed 07 Dec 2022 21:37:23 No.5489067 Report

Quoted By: >>5489865

>>5488743
>>Build the City-Planet

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:hdOVO0PU Wed 07 Dec 2022 21:46:02 No.5489073 Report

Quoted By: >>5489865

>>5488743
I get that it’s a potential space for people to live, but if it’s just a giant underground city, how is it any better than any other planet’s artificially supported living space? Why not use Swallia as a big agricultural planet anyways and ship the food offworld to fuel growth elsewhere that would be more useful and not drain a strategic resource?

I don’t buy the “we need to get battleships now” argument, but the base reasoning for the project doesn’t work for me.
>Decline the Proposal

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:e5Q8cpLW Wed 07 Dec 2022 22:12:25 No.5489098 Report

Quoted By: >>5489146 >>5489431

Can i just say, by the way, that *really* don't like the Life Machine as a permanent fixture? Fixing Bluey and healing Cijan/Jale was cool, even if we didn't actually get to use Cijan for anything due to certain anons voting to kneel, but i *really* don't like the idea of having a permanent, unchanging cast of elites.

One of the big hooks of the quest is how characters change, and even if people aren't able to be brought back to life, they can still be healed/kept alive for way, way longer than normal.

The way i see it, the life machine only really works well as an once-in-a-century 'change [1] character' token. Maybe we want to turn an supreme into a gigamonke, or keep someone alive for slightly longer.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:0o+CryF1 Wed 07 Dec 2022 22:49:08 No.5489140 Report

Quoted By: >>5489865

>>5488743
>Build the City-Planet

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Wed 07 Dec 2022 22:57:32 No.5489146 Report

Quoted By: >>5489214

>>5489098
I'm expecting fuel for it to be very rare or for weird side effects to start popping up or both. I agree that I have zero interest in keeping the same characters alive for way longer than normal (or forever!)... I want to see new people, it used to be the whole point of the quest.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Thu 08 Dec 2022 00:04:22 No.5489214 Report

Quoted By: >>5489431

>>5489146
We already know fuel is rare. Granted, it may become LESS so, but just liek we voted not to pursue other immortality projects like brain digitization, we can reject this on moral or metafictional grounds also.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jgVQmKfC Thu 08 Dec 2022 00:05:40 No.5489216 Report

Quoted By: >>5489224 >>5489865

>>5488840
1 post by this ID
>>5488743
>Decline
War IS coming, whether people believe it or not we cant just keep pretending we dont need better defenses

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ZeOXyvf7 Thu 08 Dec 2022 00:08:44 No.5489221 Report

Quoted By: >>5489226 >>5489865

>>5488743
>Build the City-Planet

I like it, sounds about as pleasurable as a blowjob from a taiwanese boy

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:yr3FZvnc Thu 08 Dec 2022 00:13:28 No.5489224 Report

Quoted By:

>>5489216
Before you posted that. There was one post by YOUR id.

A lot of people use different devices or post from different locations. OP included. It's why trips are used.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:yr3FZvnc Thu 08 Dec 2022 00:14:00 No.5489226 Report

Quoted By:

>>5489221
Case in point, I am the person you were responding to and now my IP is different again.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Thu 08 Dec 2022 00:27:59 No.5489240 Report

Quoted By: >>5489865

>>5488743
>Decline the proposal
>Don't be mean to Mann Yumm. It's a good idea, just not what the Hegemony needs.

Can Mann figure out how to make mobile colony-ships to prepare for rapid colonization and industrialization of the border lands instead?

If we have an overpopulation problem, then the traditional solution is to use the population to expand into new territory. Maybe these monkes would be safe from metal-asbestos bombardment in their underwater cave, but the stars are our friends, while the endless dark serves the verminous Enemy.

My slidey captcha looked like greek letters for a moment. Pie and lamda and such. Just sharing the simple joys of the captcha.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ZrswqMhd Thu 08 Dec 2022 01:32:48 No.5489338 Report

Quoted By: >>5489865

>>5488743
>Build the City-Planet
True Ecumenopolism has never been tried

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DxdwzNGK Thu 08 Dec 2022 02:20:27 No.5489415 Report

Quoted By: >>5489865

>>5488743
>Build the City-Planet
I agree that with Wrix's internal monologue that achieving the next tier of military tech is gonna be more efficient than using azurium to upgrade our current tier of military tech.

Thus this great city project is a better use of the resource. Plus who says we need to make it souless. We can engineer green spaces, and nature reserves, heck we could even set up a migrator colony above the cities if the planet has any cold zones.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Thu 08 Dec 2022 02:33:08 No.5489431 Report

Quoted By: >>5489460 >>5489532 >>5489865

>>5488743
>Build the City-Planet
Frankly, Frankensteining the Swall planet isn’t something I’d wish to do, but considering the population, industrial, and defensive benefits, sure.

>>5489098
Frankly there are other implications of the Life Machine that are more interesting.

Also, it going to happen anyway, at least for our Supremes and personal family. I don’t expect it’ll change much beyond a cameo or two later on, we aren’t playing the eternal Supreme.

>>5489214
We didn’t get to vote on brain digitalization, it never got to happen. And this IS Hegemonic morality- defeating entropy itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Thu 08 Dec 2022 02:51:56 No.5489460 Report

Quoted By: >>5489523 >>5489530 >>5489724

>>5489431
Also, there is the fact that anons went with Mann Yumm despite there being objectively and narratively better options like Gifted Supreme Candidate Friend or Shipbuilding Father. To deny Mann’s only useful and narratively interesting dream makes me question why anons decided to make him Overseer in the first place. Like, if we where focused on military pursuits, we would’ve went with Father Shipbuilder right?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DxdwzNGK Thu 08 Dec 2022 05:01:11 No.5489523 Report

Quoted By: >>5489736

>>5489460
Just because Mann is not a military specialist doesn't mean we can't have any military development during his tenure.

Anons felt that someone boring like him would be good for being an infrastructure person, esspecially since the other two candidates might have interpersonal problems.

Overseer assignments are not just about their skills. Anons will pass up bonuses from their expertise if they judge their character flaws to be too much of a liability.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Thu 08 Dec 2022 05:16:16 No.5489530 Report

Quoted By: >>5489736

>>5489460
Because the other two were going to cause problems. I'd rather have a boring guy that accomplishes nothing than a wacko that actively messes up other plans.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Thu 08 Dec 2022 05:20:35 No.5489532 Report

Quoted By: >>5489736

>>5489431
>We didn’t get to vote on brain digitalization, it never got to happen
Ah, you're right -- it was "full brain replacement" with cybernetic brains being an option, to prolong life past that protein collapse sickness.
Which we voted against

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Zbp5aNTF Thu 08 Dec 2022 06:08:14 No.5489564 Report

Quoted By: >>5489865 >>5490386

>>5488743
>>Decline the Proposal
no cirrus 2.0

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Thu 08 Dec 2022 06:13:25 No.5489566 Report

Quoted By: >>5489575

Goddamn, it seems to be a 12/12 tie vote, slightly leaning "build" if Yumm can do it without Azurium.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:txZ/TtMq Thu 08 Dec 2022 06:23:32 No.5489574 Report

Quoted By: >>5489719 >>5489865

>>5488743
>Build the City-Planet
Make sure there are very good safeguards in place to prevent mass drowning.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Thu 08 Dec 2022 06:26:57 No.5489575 Report

Quoted By:

>>5489566
I can switch to building it if it's a tie. I don't care super strongly.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Thu 08 Dec 2022 06:53:38 No.5489589 Report

Quoted By: >>5489865

>>5488743
I'll switch my vote (>>5488763) to
>Build the City-Planet
too, in the spirit of cooperation and politeness. Plus, it's KIND of kino if Wrix wants to build something magnificent after all the destruction he's wrought.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5GnqcuYk Thu 08 Dec 2022 11:47:18 No.5489715 Report

Quoted By:

Wonderful, and now, while war is on the horizon, and we're going to build a giant useless target, expend our material reserves and waste all our money in something that is completely useless, while we're using dinky-ass cruisers and our enemy has battleships

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5GnqcuYk Thu 08 Dec 2022 11:49:12 No.5489719 Report

Quoted By:

>>5489574
Don't worry, it won't drown, it's going to be blown up/turned into a fucking graveyard by their chemical weapons because we have absolutely no fucking military power whatsoever since every time we get the opportunity to build up, every fucking time, retards say
>uhhh but there isn't war now!!! that means we don't to build up!!!

Goddamnit, you are all fucking retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bU8UqQz4 Thu 08 Dec 2022 11:54:07 No.5489724 Report

Quoted By: >>5489736

>>5489460
>makes me question why anons decided to make him Overseer in the first place.
Because anons are fucking allergic to dissent and would rather promote the trembling bootlicker. When we attack the Essal we'll get an option for the admital and we're going to pick the bureaucratic yes-man over the ambitious strategist, mark my words.

All dictatorships run into the same problem when dear leader surrounds himself with people who were promoted for reasons that are unrelated to their competence. It's only a matter of time before everyone starts telling us what they think we want to hear instead of the truth, if it's not happening already.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bU8UqQz4 Thu 08 Dec 2022 11:56:19 No.5489726 Report

Quoted By: >>5489729 >>5489865

>>5488743
>Decline the Proposal
Just realised I hadn't voted. Anon is right, you're all fucking retarded and our hostile, belligerent neighbours are going to have a field day when they realize how easy it was to conquer us.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5GnqcuYk Thu 08 Dec 2022 12:02:58 No.5489729 Report

Quoted By:

>>5489726
Yes, but of course, bananas said that they aren't going to declare war on us *immediately right now*, which makes retards think
>hurr durr we will never be in war, just waste all our money!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Thu 08 Dec 2022 12:29:53 No.5489736 Report

Quoted By: >>5489747 >>5490340

>>5489523
Wrix is already halfway through his term and has accomplished nothing important or narratively engaging while unmasked. Are anons waiting for the next Supreme to start taking risks or are they planning on Safeguying it for the rest of the quest?

>>5489530
>I'd rather have a boring guy that accomplishes nothing
At that point I’d rather we dissolve the Overseer position, if they ain’t gonna be doing shit then there really is no point in having the position at all.

>>5489532
>it was "full brain replacement" with cybernetic brains being an option
I think the Eye Assassination done more to influence over that vote desu.

>>5489724
>Because anons are fucking allergic to dissent
They shouldn’t voted for Herd Mentality then. Shit, I remember when anons were sperging out about the Ventuck Space Marine gene getting picked over the Stomach gene. I think it’s the only military tech we voted for this entire quest, just imagine where we would be without it.

Unrelated, but we really need to hop on the other Ventucker genes as well, and the Worm ones too.

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Thu 08 Dec 2022 12:49:54 No.5489747 Report

Quoted By: >>5489769 >>5489775

>>5489736
You get one "gene upgrade" per alien species. That's the rule.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Buc70O7K Thu 08 Dec 2022 13:19:09 No.5489765 Report

Quoted By: >>5489865

>>5488743
>Build the City-Planet

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Thu 08 Dec 2022 13:25:06 No.5489769 Report

Quoted By:

>>5489747
Ah. No comment.

Indonesian Gentleman

Indonesian Gentleman ID:jMT1610Z Thu 08 Dec 2022 13:34:00 No.5489775 Report

Quoted By: >>5489780

>>5489747
>single gene per assimilated species
Are we going Horatio?

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Thu 08 Dec 2022 13:36:41 No.5489780 Report

Quoted By:

>>5489775
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:7yiPUer3 Thu 08 Dec 2022 14:13:25 No.5489798 Report

Quoted By: >>5489800

Are the votes already closed?

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Thu 08 Dec 2022 14:16:44 No.5489800 Report

Quoted By: >>5489865

>>5489798
I usually do 12 (if there's a strong majority) hour updates or 24 hours if its a bigger update or if its a strongly contested vote. So we'll close this one in an hour or so.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:7yiPUer3 Thu 08 Dec 2022 14:20:19 No.5489803 Report

Quoted By: >>5489865

Okay voting
>DENY PLAN
Because it's a waste of azuriu.
This is me >>5485499

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:zU/rzDZK Thu 08 Dec 2022 16:08:35 No.5489851 Report

Quoted By:

Current vote: 14 to 13 in favour of building it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Thu 08 Dec 2022 16:16:10 No.5489854 Report

Quoted By: >>5489865

Swapping my abstain to

>Don't build it

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:zU/rzDZK Thu 08 Dec 2022 16:20:39 No.5489858 Report

Quoted By: >>5489860

Tie game, 14/14.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:pWQ39IiD Thu 08 Dec 2022 16:24:54 No.5489859 Report

Quoted By: >>5489865

Okay, just to stop the tie, i'm voting
>Deny plan
Backlink >>5488128

Indonesian Gentleman

Indonesian Gentleman ID:jMT1610Z Thu 08 Dec 2022 16:25:39 No.5489860 Report

Quoted By: >>5489861 >>5489865

Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>5489858
Then let us flip dis shit.
1 = build
2 = no build

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:pWQ39IiD Thu 08 Dec 2022 16:27:08 No.5489861 Report

Quoted By:

>>5489860
Are you voting?

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Thu 08 Dec 2022 17:09:27 No.5489865 Report

Quoted By: >>5490160 >>5490353 >>5490386

>>5489800
Voting was supposed to close one hour after this post or about 24 hours after the last update but it was tied.

CURRENT OFFICIAL STANDINGS

BUILD 14 votes
>>5488745
>>5488754
>>5488757
>>5488816
>>5488934
>>5489067
>>5489140
>>5489221
>>5489338
>>5489415
>>5489431
>>5489574
>>5489589
>>5489765

DECLINE 17 votes
>>5489803
>>5489726
>>5489564
>>5489240
>>5489216
>>5489073
>>5489005
>>5488956
>>5488880
>>5488860
>>5488793
>>5488792
>>5488760
>>5488752
>>5489854
>>5489859
>>5489860

Wouldn't be right to just close it arbitrarily after the voting deadline was tied anyway, so this vote will be closed come hell or high water in 10 hours from now, or 3 PM GMT. If it's tied again I'll just flip a coin instead. I'm going the FUCK to sleep.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Thu 08 Dec 2022 17:12:40 No.5489867 Report

Quoted By: >>5489869 >>5490066

A bit sad that we are probably not going to get the city planet, I get not wanting to waste azurium right now but it's a cool project and wasting our overseer desu.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5GnqcuYk Thu 08 Dec 2022 17:16:10 No.5489869 Report

Quoted By:

>>5489867
City Planets go against the hegemony

It might not show now since it's just been social issues for the past five threads, but in the start, the hegemony used to care about nature a lot, to the point where we moved our entire industry to an empty rock so Jaxt would remain green

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Buc70O7K Thu 08 Dec 2022 17:22:59 No.5489874 Report

Quoted By: >>5489876 >>5489892 >>5490066

Why dont we just make it a water world then turn it into an agricultural world, with water farms.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5GnqcuYk Thu 08 Dec 2022 17:31:53 No.5489876 Report

Quoted By: >>5489882 >>5489892

>>5489874
Are agricultural worlds even worth it, actually?

I mean, how much more would it cost to ship the stuff all the way to the other planets we have than to just farm? Our only 'non green' planet is already close to Jaxt, which has plenty of farms.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Buc70O7K Thu 08 Dec 2022 17:40:17 No.5489882 Report

Quoted By:

>>5489876
They will be in the future when our population skyrockets. They were very helpful in starsector at least

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Thu 08 Dec 2022 18:02:00 No.5489892 Report

Quoted By: >>5489893 >>5490066

>>5489876
>>5489874
Rather than make one big aqua-agri world, we should siphone the water out of the planet and use it for space farming infrustructure a la https://youtu.be/0ENabNTQwNg
This would also give us an easy access to the world's crust and core, aka, to billions of tons in iron and other metals. I propose to strip mine their world.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5GnqcuYk Thu 08 Dec 2022 18:03:17 No.5489893 Report

Quoted By: >>5489921

>>5489892
The entire issue was that there are literally no minerals anymore in their planet

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Thu 08 Dec 2022 18:54:57 No.5489921 Report

Quoted By: >>5489925

>>5489893
They were found when they had approximatly IRL levels of tech, there's no way that in the century or so since we made contact they mined out their planet's core.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Thu 08 Dec 2022 19:01:25 No.5489925 Report

Quoted By: >>5489937

>>5489921
The timeline lately HAS been confusing for me. There was mention of manipulating the Vetuck for "centuries" last thread... But we only first visited and manipulated them as Eoba II, which didn't seem like it could have been more than 150 or so years prior.

That said, the fishmen WERE superhumanly intelligent.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Thu 08 Dec 2022 19:10:26 No.5489937 Report

Quoted By: >>5489942 >>5490066

>>5489925
>That said, the fishmen WERE superhumanly intelligent.
Strip minning a planet's core isn't just about intelligence. To mine a planet's core with their tech and population would have been a monumental effort, beyond making deep sea bunkers, it would have left their planet with visible changes if only for the mountains of iron they would make to store even 1 % of their planet's core. I refuse to belive those salamanders mined everything on the planet and took it with them in the afterlife.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Thu 08 Dec 2022 19:18:45 No.5489942 Report

Quoted By: >>5489948 >>5490013

>>5489937
>"That's the best part; the Swall have already uncovered most of their planet's useful metals and construction materials"
It wasn't all used up, but much of it has been and that which wasn't is all conveniently accessible!

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Thu 08 Dec 2022 19:30:55 No.5489948 Report

Quoted By: >>5489949

>>5489942
That's why I say we first syphon their hydrosphere first, then drill through the empty crust to reach the planet's core and mine it out.
Actually, keeping the crust is an even better idea! By minning the core and mantle out, we would end up with just the crust, an empty shell in which we can pump hydrogen and ignite it, making a small sun. Whit most of the planet's mass mined out, building operatons would require less energy and we can make the inner side of the "shell" into a ecumenopolis powered by the artificial inner sun. We can buld as "tall" as we would need without a mantle to worry about and the whole thing can be secret since the shellworld would seem like a barren rock with a couple of outposts on it from the outside. A Hollow Earth Naukograd.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Thu 08 Dec 2022 19:39:18 No.5489949 Report

Quoted By: >>5489967

>>5489948
If we want to mine a core, why not pick an uninhabited planet instead of ruining the biosphere of this one?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Thu 08 Dec 2022 20:02:48 No.5489967 Report

Quoted By:

>>5489949
We could, a less dense planet world would be better energy-wise and a barren world would also be better from a moral POV, at least for the Hegemony.
The core-mining part of my post was in relation with how, instead of making this whole planet a agri-world, we could instead syphon the water and send it to other habitats for farming. I was saying that if we do that, we could go all in and mine the planet's core for iron. The biosphere could be relocated somewhere else while we syphon the water out in my scenario.
Regardless, my original point was that making a specialized farming world is stupid and we should instead spread out.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Thu 08 Dec 2022 21:07:23 No.5490013 Report

Quoted By: >>5490021

>>5489942
Isn't one of the Swall-System worlds some molten hellhole? If we transport excess water from Swall to that place perhaps we could make that place a useful mining/forge world?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Thu 08 Dec 2022 21:18:09 No.5490021 Report

Quoted By:

>>5490013
Dumping water on a molten world to cool it down is very inefficient. We could make a thin solar shade, just a mirror nothing too fancy, and put it between the planet and the sun to cool the surface.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Thu 08 Dec 2022 22:21:47 No.5490066 Report

Quoted By: >>5490187

>>5489867
Anons always be doing that though, they never go for the Mega projects since the Cirrius.

>>5489874
It doesn’t work like that.

>>5489892
Inefficient

>>5489937
They must’ve been extremely wasteful with their resources then.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:B7jzcpCm Thu 08 Dec 2022 23:23:24 No.5490156 Report

Quoted By: >>5490159

Why let a planet go to waste?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5GnqcuYk Thu 08 Dec 2022 23:24:56 No.5490159 Report

Quoted By: >>5490161

>>5490156
There's nothing worth it in the planet anymore, though, they even mentioned things had gotten so bad the most common crime was battery theft.

We could, at best, use it as like, an hydroponic farm, but do we even need an agriworld?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:B7jzcpCm Thu 08 Dec 2022 23:25:45 No.5490160 Report

Quoted By:

>>5489865
Build

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:B7jzcpCm Thu 08 Dec 2022 23:26:46 No.5490161 Report

Quoted By: >>5490164

>>5490159
Well yes, that's why a mega project to turn the planet into something useful sounds great.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5GnqcuYk Thu 08 Dec 2022 23:28:31 No.5490164 Report

Quoted By: >>5490180

>>5490161
No it doesn't

We have a war looming on the horizon, and we're going to waste our resources on an gigantic project that will get blown to smithereens anyway if the esaal attack?

Furthermore, Jaxtians aren't *fit* for some hyper-industrialized ecumenopolis hellhole, our apes literally got sick just from being in an horizontally built space stations, imagine how fucked up our people will get in an literal planet city.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Thu 08 Dec 2022 23:39:53 No.5490180 Report

Quoted By: >>5490189 >>5490192

>>5490164
Azurium Cruisers weren’t gonna change the balance of power anyway, we need to out industry and out tech the Esaal to beat them, not compete on their terms when they have the overwhelming military advantage.

We don’t have Battleship tech, or enough Azurium do produce a fleet worth a damn at beating the Esaal, but we can beat them by fully industrializing the City-Planet and out population/produce/tech them to victory.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Thu 08 Dec 2022 23:45:16 No.5490187 Report

Quoted By: >>5490206

>>5490066
>Inefficient
First, I want to clarify that I know that the Hegemony, at least with it's current views, wouldn't disassamble the Swall world, but the thing I love most about this quest are the megaprojects so here is my case for making the Swall planet into a shellworld over the next couple of centuries.
Having our food production spread out is better than making one big planet for it since it would make said planet a target for enemies both outside and inside the Hegemony. If we are keen on making the Swall system the breadbasket of the Hegemony, which is our only option right now since we don't have ships with the capacity necessary to move oceans between systems, it would still be better in the long run to have the farms be out of the planet's gravity well and in space where the transport cost is cheeper. The ecosystem can be also moved in space habitats where is can be studied in a controlled enviroment.
We can syphon the water out with our current level of tech, giant tubes from orbital stations down to the sealevel should work fine enough, at least in the early stage when the ocean's natural pressure could push the water through the empty tube.
Once the planet has been properly desertified there would be no more resources left on the surface of the planet nor in it's crust, which is why we should mine deeper. The polar regions of the planet are the best place to drill since they are the closest to the core. We would have to dig through the mantle, but that just means more metals and silicates for us. A problem I can see while digging through the mantle is the structural integrity of the crust, I assume better anti-gravity tech would be developed by the time the crust becomes unstable but perhaps ignoring most of the mantle until then and sliding country-wide tubes ring by ring until we hit the solid core can work as a temporary solution.
In terms of transport, it would get easier with each scoop of mass taken out of the gravity well. The matter from the mantle and food from the space farms would make the project self-sustainable for the most part, rarer elements and materials could be obtained from other bodies in the system.
After at least a couple of generations and some technological advancements, the former ocean world would remain a literal shell of itself. There should be enough space inside to create a small sized star or at least to support an inner atmosphere. Unlike the Great City, the Shellworld wouldn't force our subjects into a stressing medium, we would have the whole surface to as the foundation and we could build as far up(read: down) as we could on Jaxt.
After centuries have passed and the Shellworld is complete, it can be used as a colonization vesself for intergalactic space, a secret colony in the void mean as a second chace for the Jaxtian race, a world-sized Naukograd, etc.
Thanks for comming to my TedTalk.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5GnqcuYk Thu 08 Dec 2022 23:46:13 No.5490189 Report

Quoted By: >>5490206

>>5490180
We already out-industry the Esaal

You can't just keep making industry and forget about the military part
>We don’t have Battleship tech
Which is why we need to sink our resources into that
>but we can beat them by fully industrializing the City-Planet and out population/produce/tech them to victory.
This is not a fucking videogame, there is no 'economy victory'

The Economy is a vehicle to create more military resources. We can't just keep sinking more and more of our time into random projects when we haven't even BEGUN to prepare for war.

We have what, a few cruisers at best? The Esaal could quite literally defeat us right now by dropping a few battleships into Jaxt.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Thu 08 Dec 2022 23:48:10 No.5490192 Report

Quoted By: >>5490206

>>5490180
We already outcompete them in all but the military and putting most of our eggs in a neurosys inducing basket wouldn't help.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 09 Dec 2022 00:10:06 No.5490206 Report

Quoted By: >>5490209 >>5490244

My post got ate, goddamnit

>>5490187
Anon, Planet-City would be more vertically integrated than horizontal, just because anons think in human doesn’t mean the monkes will make the city horizontal.

>>5490189
>>5490192
We ain’t going to beat them by dumping 4 tech upgrades (25 years each) into Battleship tech and pray that we can substitute our Azurium deficiencies wit regular metals, especially since the Esaal won’t be stagnant on the military front either. The better play is to find more BAG and create anti-matter torpedoes with it, then the Azurium and Battleship deficiency will be rendered inert enough to beat them decisively. Doing otherwise will ultimately result in the Deathmask coming out and wave assaulting the superior Esaal military Mao-style.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5GnqcuYk Fri 09 Dec 2022 00:13:23 No.5490209 Report

Quoted By: >>5490214

>>5490206
>We ain’t going to beat them by dumping 4 tech upgrades (25 years each) into Battleship tec
And we sure as hell aren't going to beat them by sinking all our resources into an massive civilian project

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 09 Dec 2022 00:19:35 No.5490214 Report

Quoted By: >>5490218 >>5490219 >>5490235

>>5490209
We weren’t going to beat the numerous Azurium Battleships the Esaal have with fewer Azurium Cruisers anyway. This not only turn our industrial advantage into overwhelming (which will help against a Consortium two-front war), but it also make our most significant population/industrial center outside of our home systems effectively invincible for planetary bombardment, meaning they have to wave assault us with ground forces instead, which play into our advantages instead of the Esaals.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5GnqcuYk Fri 09 Dec 2022 00:21:12 No.5490218 Report

Quoted By: >>5490223 >>5490228

>>5490214
>This not only turn our industrial advantage into overwhelming
Holy fuck, stop thinking like it's a fucking game

"Industrial power" means literally fuck all if the enemy can just blow through our miserably small forces, you fucking retard, we quite literally have only a few cruisers. Do you know how much fucking time it would take to make an entire ecumenopolis? Do you think that kind of stuff is paid off immediately?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Fri 09 Dec 2022 00:21:55 No.5490219 Report

Quoted By: >>5490232

>>5490214
>but it also make our most significant population/industrial center outside of our home systems effectively invincible for planetary bombardment
They don't have to attack the City if they can cut it off form the wider Hegemony with their fleet.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Fri 09 Dec 2022 00:25:43 No.5490223 Report

Quoted By: >>5490225

>>5490218
>Holy fuck, stop thinking like it's a fucking game
It literally is. :)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5GnqcuYk Fri 09 Dec 2022 00:27:12 No.5490225 Report

Quoted By: >>5490232

>>5490223
It's an story

There is no 'economic victory' thing where you 'win' the game if you hit a threshold

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 09 Dec 2022 00:28:08 No.5490228 Report

Quoted By: >>5490230 >>5490237

>>5490218
Anon, we’re not going to beat the Esaal trying to compete with their homefield advantage. I don’t know where you think shitting out a few better cruisers will suddenly change their superior battleship advantage, but it will take us a century to get Battleships operational, and even then we won’t have the Azurium advantage, and this assumes that the Esaal remain stagnant on the military front, which I doubt.

We need to create hard points to stop their advance, not invest more in a navy that’s gonna get it’s shit kicked in even with Battleship tech.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5GnqcuYk Fri 09 Dec 2022 00:30:38 No.5490230 Report

Quoted By: >>5490249

>>5490228
We don't need to do the same thing as the esaal

But we're not going to go anywhere by wasting our money on an easily conquered planet. We quite literally have no way, whatsoever, of defending against the esaal. It doesn't matter how much money we make if we don't have a way to defend ourselves.

We quite literally just had to face an esaal chemical weapon. Imagine if they dumped that thing on an heavily crowded ecumenopolis.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 09 Dec 2022 00:31:20 No.5490232 Report

Quoted By: >>5490241

>>5490219
Which ties them up at Swalli, and not steamrolling our other systems.

>>5490225
I’m not stating that I expect a threshold victory, but expecting us to try to complete with them on their home field, we need an asymmetrical solution to our Esaal problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Fri 09 Dec 2022 00:32:41 No.5490235 Report

Quoted By: >>5490245 >>5490249

>>5490214
I don't think we've taken a single step toward making the Swall system an industrial centre yet, though? We reserved the right to, sure, but I don't think we ever actually did something with the other Swall words whilst the Swall were alive.

Also, did the Esaal ever activate their Beacons in the Balaathi systems?

Right now, the best way we have to beat the Esaal is through more fast raiding actions rather then just keep letting them set up and grow their strength and support in preparation of a fleet-jump towards us; because in a straight-up slugfest they drop everything down upon our heads together and they win the battle they have chosen even if it falls at a place within our space. Instead, we need to use our greater starsight sensors and mobility to take out their guidance beacons, hit their supply stations across the cluster and make the Baalathi cluster generally untenable for them to keep their active fleet in the area supplied and refitted. By the time their battleships arrive, we've already moved on to the next system or jumped into the void of open space. If they group up, they loose their resources everywhere else but that one spot and compromise their supply network by running it through a single point. If they spread out to hunt us, we pick off their fleet piece by piece with the full weight of ours.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Fri 09 Dec 2022 00:33:20 No.5490237 Report

Quoted By: >>5490249

>>5490228
>hard points to stop their advance
There are no chokepoints in space, no road which could be mined, space is like a house without doors and walls.
You claim that the city would be a hardpoint, tell me how would it stop their battleships from simply passimg through?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Fri 09 Dec 2022 00:35:33 No.5490241 Report

Quoted By: >>5490255

>>5490232
>Which ties them up at Swalli, and not steamrolling our other systems.
No, what it ties would be some cruisers at most since by your own admission they could destroy whatever garrison we put there. They have no need to maintain a large fleet presence if they bomb our ships.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Fri 09 Dec 2022 00:38:50 No.5490244 Report

Quoted By: >>5490255

>>5490206
>4 tech upgrades (25 years each)
We could have had the first level of battleship tech after ten years if people had voted for it. It's 40 years total for the tech

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Fri 09 Dec 2022 00:39:34 No.5490245 Report

Quoted By: >>5490255

>>5490235
This Anon knows what's up. Even with our luckluster performance in the skirmish against them during the Reconquista, we beat them and killed thei worm with our alpha enforcers. Our deathmasks should shread through them during boarding actions since Wrix ordered them to train specifically for situations like the bording of the Esaal station. We need to fight like guerillas and pick their battleships one by one, preferably by capuring them.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 09 Dec 2022 00:42:41 No.5490249 Report

Quoted By: >>5490262 >>5490265

fml the post are itself again

>>5490230
>We quite literally have no way, whatsoever, of defending against the esaal.
I’m calling bullshit on that. We have no way of taking the fight to them unless they’re bogged down somewhere else, that’s the simple fact you’ve been ignoring this entire conversation. We can’t power-project with an inferior navy, and we’ll always have an inferior navy even with Battleship tech due to the Wondermetal deficiency.

>Imagine if they dumped that thing on an heavily crowded ecumenopolis.
You mean the shit we could just clean up anyway? The shit that wouldn’t affect the City-Planet because the atmosphere and oceans are intentionally separated from the city? That’s fucking funny mate.

>>5490235
That could work, but we’ll need more industrial might to turn it into an effective strategy. I do think the BAG anti-matter torpedoes is a decent strategy.

>>5490237
Put an FTL inhibitor planetside, like the Esaal did with Cijan at the beacon.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 09 Dec 2022 00:47:38 No.5490255 Report

Quoted By: >>5490261 >>5490265

>>5490241
They would if we bait them.

>>5490244
Tech advances are nebulous timeframe wise. Like, 15 years passed with no advancement, thinking it works in ten years cycles isn’t realistic.

>>5490245
So we do need to upgrade our industrial advantage then, if we’re planning on spreading their fleet thin with pure numbers and positioning?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Fri 09 Dec 2022 00:55:41 No.5490261 Report

Quoted By: >>5490280

>>5490255
>thinking it works in ten years cycles isn’t realistic.
It literally does though. Threes told us what we could do in ten years, and one of the options was 25% of battleship tech. You can't just pull numbers out from your ass to justify your idiocy when we have the real numbers right there.

>>5490255
>pure numbers and positioning?
Monkey wave tactics for the win? This will not end well.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:064wE/Z0 Fri 09 Dec 2022 00:57:27 No.5490262 Report

Quoted By: >>5490280

>>5490249
>You mean the shit we could just clean up anyway
Literally a stroke of luck

It didn't spread because the planet it hit basically killed anything that wasn't grass with those turrets. It would turn an tightly packed ecumenopolis into an horror scenario.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Fri 09 Dec 2022 01:00:11 No.5490265 Report

Quoted By: >>5490280

>>5490249
>Put an FTL inhibitor planetside,
They did that with worms, we do not have star-seers that powerful yet, because if we did we wouldn't have been stoped by the Esaals there.
>>5490255
>They would if we bait them
With what? You claim that the Esaals can destroy our ships and due to this we should build up our industry on the Swall world but how would our ships reach space if Esaals cruisers could bomb them as they leave the planet? And remember what Wrix said when talking about the city, he said populqtion, taxes, culture amd research, he didn't mention industry because having a spaceship shipyard under an ocean is stupid.
>So we do need to upgrade our industrial advantage then, if we’re planning on spreading their fleet thin with pure numbers and positioning?
Read above, making underwater spaceshipyards is stupid, just think of the chokepoints the ships would need to travel through to get to the surface, negating the advantage against kinectic bombardments, and the fact that they would waste fuel escaping the gravity well.
We are better of improving our bording capabilities since even though we know that the Esaals will be more prepared for this [no regrets with shooting that major though, I voted for that.] What we need are fast ships, big guns and communication jammers, maybe there are drugs that could increase the performance of our star-seers.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:9q9AIuCB Fri 09 Dec 2022 01:02:51 No.5490269 Report

Quoted By:

>>5488743
>Build the City-Planet

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 09 Dec 2022 01:15:13 No.5490280 Report

Quoted By: >>5490285

>>5490261
Anon, it’s been 15 since we last talked to Threes. I’m not pulling this outta my ass.

>This will not end well.
It never does, does it?

>>5490262
Again, separated from a useless ocean by literal miles of ground and Azurium.

>>5490265
You telling me that Blindo didn’t advance any Starsight shit in literal decades now? Wtf AlphaYoda.

>With what?
Assuming the City-Palanet wouldn’t be a major target? Besides, the Swalli System has a Baal-friendly gas giant right? That’d be useful for pumping ships out.

>he said populqtion, taxes, culture amd research
I meant industry as a shorthand for that, we need to start building up our civilization. Like, the extra research alone makes it worth it.

>What we need are fast ships, big guns and communication jammers, maybe there are drugs that could increase the performance of our star-seers.
All of that requires dedicated research efforts btw.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5GnqcuYk Fri 09 Dec 2022 01:19:43 No.5490285 Report

Quoted By: >>5490295

>>5490280
Yeah, because there isn't going to be a single opening in an giant fucking ecumenopolis under the sea. It's just going to be completely sealed off from the outside world, all the time.

At that point you might as well leave them to rot, with nowhere close to enough of a navy they could be extremely easily cut off.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 09 Dec 2022 01:25:31 No.5490295 Report

Quoted By: >>5490299

>>5490285
>Yeah, because there isn't going to be a single opening in an giant fucking ecumenopolis under the sea. It's just going to be completely sealed off from the outside world, all the time.
Yes, that was the proposed plan. It’d be a bit silly to build your underwater city with intentional leaks.

>At that point you might as well leave them to rot, with nowhere close to enough of a navy they could be extremely easily cut off.
The point is for them hold on without outside support. Turn it into a Fortress-world.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5GnqcuYk Fri 09 Dec 2022 01:28:31 No.5490299 Report

Quoted By: >>5490306 >>5490308

>>5490295
>Yes, that was the proposed plan
And how, genius, do you reckon we'll get anything of value inside/outside the megacity?
>The point is for them hold on without outside support.
This is not Warhammer 40k, you can't expect an literal ecumenopolis to survive an prolonged siege while cut off from supplies. It would turn into an Bioshock nightmareland faster than you can say "Starsight Plasmids"

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Fri 09 Dec 2022 01:33:57 No.5490306 Report

Quoted By: >>5490326

>>5490299
>you can't expect an literal ecumenopolis to survive an prolonged siege while cut off from supplies
Why not? They should be plenty self sufficient. They would grow all their own food and have plenty of deuterium for power.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 09 Dec 2022 01:34:53 No.5490308 Report

Quoted By: >>5490326

>>5490299
>And how, genius, do you reckon we'll get anything of value inside/outside the megacity?
You ever read 40k AI Quest? In dedicated chokepoints.

Frankly, I would’ve loved to have invented portal tech from that one sperg scientist, would’ve made for a more interesting civ desu.

>you can't expect an literal ecumenopolis to survive an prolonged siege while cut off from supplies
You’re assuming that they’re incapable of producing their own food surplus, and that doesn’t include the return of biocube rationing.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5GnqcuYk Fri 09 Dec 2022 01:47:13 No.5490326 Report

Quoted By: >>5490330

>>5490306
>>5490308
It takes more than some algae to run an ecumenopolis, and Swallia literally doesnt have minerals left

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Fri 09 Dec 2022 01:51:34 No.5490330 Report

Quoted By: >>5490335 >>5490337

>>5490326
>It takes more than some algae to run an ecumenopolis
Apparently not.
>The planet will be self sufficient; able to grow oxygen-rich or even food algae; since the planet is in the habitable zone; and able to siphon deuterium from the water above to power the fusion reactors. It would even be highly defendable- the ocean above the city will lessen the effects of any kinetic weapons or warheads; though it won't stop a truly dedicated attacker. This industrialized planet could support a population of hundreds of billions all on its own.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4SOkxQwP Fri 09 Dec 2022 01:54:59 No.5490335 Report

Quoted By:

>>5490330
I assume there will also be other food grown inside the planet, sich as fungal farms or hydroponic and artificlaly-lit gardens.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5GnqcuYk Fri 09 Dec 2022 01:56:16 No.5490337 Report

Quoted By: >>5490346

>>5490330
It's self sufficient in food, but do you think all that machinery would keep running while during constant attacks by the Essal? Fuck, even if it was just sieged, the lack of minerals means there'd be nothing to replace the machinery if it fail

Your plan is retarded, we have no way of keeping this planet under our control once war breaks out, we will be crushed like a tin can. Literally all it takes is two battleships and Jaxt falls.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:huQIODve Fri 09 Dec 2022 01:57:27 No.5490340 Report

Quoted By: >>5490361

>>5489736
I think I started that, and I still only slightly regret it as is.

Herd Mentality or superior health both would have been more useful than permanently locking a significant minority of our population out of the highest levels of our intellectual careers to buff up the elite portion of our infantry force (a force that seems to be equipped bizarrely regardless).

I didn’t realise we’d outright genocide the Vetuckians though. I haven’t really considered what is the right answer in that context, although I’m still sceptical that the doom marines are all it’s cracked up to be compared to, say, biologically reinforced obedience.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Fri 09 Dec 2022 02:03:09 No.5490346 Report

Quoted By: >>5490356

>>5490337
It explicitly says the planet would be self sufficient. I think our tech is sufficiently advanced to be able to not break down during a siege. Besides, I'm sure they have some spares around in a planet-wide city for anything that does break down. It also explicitly says the planet would be highly defendable. Idk about you but I don't think it's very easy to conquer a planet-wide city (urban warfare is already a nightmare, imagine doing that being the entire battlespace) that is also entirely under an ocean. It would be very difficult to take, which is not to say impossible, but you are really underselling it. If they wanted to dedicate enough resources to actually taking it, it would buy us an incredible amount of time.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Fri 09 Dec 2022 02:11:19 No.5490353 Report

Quoted By:

>>5489865
Gonna formally switch to
>Build the City-Planet

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5GnqcuYk Fri 09 Dec 2022 02:12:03 No.5490356 Report

Quoted By: >>5490358 >>5490361

>>5490346
It literally only mentions food when talking about self sufficiency, and literally says that it wouldn't be able to stop a dedicated attacker.

Like i said, even if it didn't get blown to bits by the esaal, if would turn into an anarchic bioshock hellhole as machinery started to get fucked by the lack of supplies, damage from the esaal, and the fact that you'd have hundreds of billions literally stuck in an sieged, abandoned, cut off town

An setting cool enough it could work as an entire quest of it's own maybe, but severely retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Fri 09 Dec 2022 02:16:00 No.5490358 Report

Quoted By: >>5490366

>>5490356
It also talks about how it would easily power itself, and I already conceded that it wasn't invincible. You failed to dispute that it would be difficult to take. Sure it might suck for civilians, but any siege would suck for civilians. The point is that they aren't just going to blow over this place, it would take serious effort.

Also, for the record, I voted for Decline, but it's dumb to say the Esaal will just roll over this when they clearly wouldn't. I just don't think it's worth our resources to build.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 09 Dec 2022 02:18:43 No.5490361 Report

Quoted By: >>5490368 >>5490369

>>5490340
I was one of the few anons that voted for Herd Mentality. Really, what convinced me was the fact that it could been a cross-species gene, easing assimilation and strengthening the inter-species bonds of the Hegemony. Shame that’ll never happen now.

>I didn’t realise we’d outright genocide the Vetuckians though
Same, or that we’re just doing one Gene upgrade per species, that would’ve been useful to know.

>>5490356
With our Doommarines numbering in the billions? They ain’t cracking that nut anon. Plus, they would be self-sufficent enough to produce replacement parts anon, this is a planet, not an isolated colony.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5GnqcuYk Fri 09 Dec 2022 02:21:51 No.5490366 Report

Quoted By:

>>5490358
>It also talks about how it would easily power itself
A bunch of massive water drains? Aounds like an extremely easy to exploit weakpoint. If you close it, no power, if you don't, a big open target.
>You failed to dispute that it would be difficult to take
Other than blowing it up, which they absolutely can with their battleships, depth charges and other space age weapons that can't be completely stopped by some water, the average Esaal soldier is going to be better than your average jaxtian, even if the death commandos beat them. Not to mention they don't even need to take it - just cut off the ships and they're fucked.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:huQIODve Fri 09 Dec 2022 02:23:37 No.5490368 Report

Quoted By: >>5490372 >>5490381

Isn’t a battleship capable of exterminating a Baal colony, the same gas giant aliens who are capable of literally outreproducing a 24 hour bombardment by our entire navy?

Maybe they’re just amazingly specialised at obliterating fighter sized targets, but if they’ve already secured the skies I don’t see why a Battleship wouldn’t be able to vapourish the entire city in weeks.

>Decline the Proposal

>>5490361
+1.
I already miss the Vetuck. They didn’t deserve all of this, and they certainly didn’t deserve us.
May their deity welcome them in the after.
: (

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5GnqcuYk Fri 09 Dec 2022 02:24:34 No.5490369 Report

Quoted By: >>5490377 >>5490381

>>5490361
>With our Doommarines numbering in the billions
Are you insane? You do know that there are like less than a thousand Death Commandos, right? Do you actually think all alphas are marines?

>Plus, they would be self-sufficent enough to produce replacement parts anon
WITH WHAT MATERIALS, GENIUS? Swallia was so dry people were Literally stealing batteries.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 09 Dec 2022 02:26:33 No.5490372 Report

Quoted By:

>>5490368
Too true. May you find mercy in your god Ventuckers, you’re time was too brief, your passing too soon. Farewell, old friends.
;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:huQIODve Fri 09 Dec 2022 02:32:19 No.5490377 Report

Quoted By: >>5490379

>>5490369
They’re not death commandos, but I’m pretty sure, post Wrix, every Alpha is actually trained in soldiering.

It’s been a couple decades since though/ Don’t know if they’ve kept training.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5GnqcuYk Fri 09 Dec 2022 02:35:05 No.5490379 Report

Quoted By:

>>5490377
Death Commandos are the ones with the near impenetrable azurium armor, even if they did get sent the Esaal Grenadiers would not have as nearly hard a time as killing the non-commando alphas, especially if we used all our azurium on the city

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 09 Dec 2022 02:36:05 No.5490381 Report

Quoted By: >>5490383

>>5490368
>if they’ve already secured the skies I don’t see why a Battleship wouldn’t be able to vapourish the entire city in weeks
>It would even be highly defendable- the ocean above the city will lessen the effects of any kinetic weapons or warheads
And that’s in addition to the Wondermetal overlaying the city itself.

>>5490369
>less than a thousand Death Commandos
>in a civilization numbering in the hundreds of billions
lol

>WITH WHAT MATERIALS, GENIUS? Swallia was so dry people were Literally stealing batteries.
Ain’t that dry, they only had 200 years of advancement past the Industrial Age right?

Tbh, did they advance different tech? Like portals or BAG replicators? I’m morbidly curious now.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5GnqcuYk Fri 09 Dec 2022 02:38:41 No.5490383 Report

Quoted By:

>>5490381
>lol
The Death Commandos are an elite group who train with Jale
>Ain’t that dry, they only had 200 years of advancement
They literally say the world is dry in the post, they digged all the deep sea minerals too because they're aquatic people.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Zbp5aNTF Fri 09 Dec 2022 02:44:45 No.5490386 Report

Quoted By:

>>5489865
I'll change my vote. (>>5489564)
>Build the City-Planet

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5GnqcuYk Fri 09 Dec 2022 02:47:26 No.5490388 Report

Quoted By: >>5490407

Why do people always choose the retarded option..

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Fri 09 Dec 2022 03:00:18 No.5490399 Report

Quoted By: >>5490402

VOTING CLOSED

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Fri 09 Dec 2022 03:17:18 No.5490402 Report

Quoted By:

>>5490399
>still no trip
come on man, it's just ## in the name field followed by your custom password

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Fri 09 Dec 2022 03:24:56 No.5490407 Report

Quoted By: >>5490431 >>5490467 >>5490668

>>5490388
Maybe because you argued the case for Decline incredibly poorly and died on a retarded hill that no one but you cared about when there were plenty of other actual good reasons to Decline, leading to people who were reading the later discussion to think it was better to Build.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Fri 09 Dec 2022 04:02:27 No.5490431 Report

Quoted By: >>5490467

>>5490407
+1
not just poorly but belligerently
ever heard of catching flies with honey instead of vinegar?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Fri 09 Dec 2022 05:02:43 No.5490467 Report

Quoted By:

>>5490431
>>5490407
Nothing made me happier that I changed my vote than the fact that the people arguing loudest for the opposite immediately afterwards were being tremendous jackasses.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:GtF0pTHM Fri 09 Dec 2022 05:51:12 No.5490494 Report

Quoted By: >>5490498 >>5490502

Jeez guys, just because we are not specifically focusing on military development, doesn't mean our military isn't getting stronger.

The NaN shipyards are still rebuilding the fleet in the background and troops are still being trained. We are increasing the numbers of our CURRENT tech level military. This is the indirect power of an industrial focus.

Would it perhaps have been a better choice to tech up now? Maybe, but we are not as vulnerable as some anons think.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FZMQEgV3 Fri 09 Dec 2022 06:02:33 No.5490498 Report

Quoted By:

>>5490494
God I just love massive industrial projects, developing the economy makes me so fucking hard. The Nan Shipyards were my suggestion and now getting another megaproject makes me a happy camper.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:FZMQEgV3 Fri 09 Dec 2022 06:08:21 No.5490502 Report

Quoted By: >>5490503 >>5490507

>>5490494
Also bananas you mad bastard, I even found the player suggesting the Death Star underwater city planet

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Fri 09 Dec 2022 06:08:43 No.5490503 Report

Quoted By:

>>5490502
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Fri 09 Dec 2022 06:09:20 No.5490505 Report

Quoted By: >>5490509 >>5490510

I think that at this point it's better to wait for our successor and pick a military-oriented Supreme Ruler.

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Fri 09 Dec 2022 06:09:41 No.5490507 Report

Quoted By: >>5490513

>>5490502
I can't believe even the players are leaving hints now.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Fri 09 Dec 2022 06:11:33 No.5490509 Report

Quoted By: >>5490510

>>5490505
I mean, more militaristic than a guy whose main inspirations were Kinja, Agori, and Akule?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Fri 09 Dec 2022 06:13:11 No.5490510 Report

Quoted By: >>5490511

>>5490509
We didn't pick him, though. We have no evidence he has actual personal military skills outside the mask.

>>5490505
Agreed.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Fri 09 Dec 2022 06:15:01 No.5490511 Report

Quoted By: >>5490512

>>5490510
We picked his influences and his mask, and thus his militarism. Maybe not the rest of what happened, but that much at least. I believe in Wrix's ability to kick ass militarily.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Fri 09 Dec 2022 06:16:28 No.5490512 Report

Quoted By: >>5490601

>>5490511
>his influences
The people picking Kinja were doing it for the propaganda stuff, not the military stuff. I know bcos I'm the one who first brought up Kinja.

Also, influences =/= skills.

>I believe in Wrix's ability to kick ass militarily.
You can do that, I guess. Hopefully we'll never find out.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FZMQEgV3 Fri 09 Dec 2022 06:24:50 No.5490513 Report

Quoted By: >>5490529

>>5490507
Hey Bananas, I was just scrapping through the archive and found the mystery of Vetuck IV that was never addressed, have we had scientists looking at it in the background, or perhaps this is something we can explore now?

>Vetuck IV is a dark world made of very heavy elements- unusual for such a far orbit. It's surface is barely impacted by craters; suggesting a super-hard exterior or that it was newly formed.

Indonesian Gentleman

Indonesian Gentleman ID:u6HUzCcR Fri 09 Dec 2022 06:52:22 No.5490529 Report

Quoted By: >>5490534

>>5490513
Inb4 we find cryogenically frozen Vetuckian precursors in there

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:huQIODve Fri 09 Dec 2022 07:04:47 No.5490534 Report

Quoted By:

>>5490529
Knowing us, if they are there, I seriously hope we don’t.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Fri 09 Dec 2022 08:47:48 No.5490601 Report

Quoted By:

>>5490512
The trouble is, we then found out, that he was such a good propagandist that he had propoganda'd to known as a supreme for his military and for unifying the people rather then as a propogandist.

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Fri 09 Dec 2022 09:11:37 No.5490615 Report

Quoted By: >>5490715

After much thought, you decide to okay the project. With only minor gains to be made for your space-fleet with the Azurium, expanding your power base and creating a truly impressive work of engineering would be more valuable to leave behind to the future of the Hegemony...

”Alright Mann, I've thought it over. I give you full permission to do the project. Don't go overbudget and don't waste my time. The Azurium is yours. Don't disappoint me.”
”Yes, I will do you proud!”

With that, a mass of ships and workers begin to flow to the Swalli system; great work undergoes the planet. In just a few short years; the planet's islands and landmasses are destroyed and sunk into the ocean, the ice caps are melted, and all of the Swalli's complex life forms; the dreaded Zharks, the rare and valuable corals, and the deep sea and fish go extinct. Your scientists make sure to take stock of all of the extant populations genetic data and samples; there will be no more from this point on- a loss of an alien ecosystem in exchange for a grand construction.

The Great City will of course take a very long time to build- and it will not be finished all at once. As of now, Mann is dedicating the rest of his career and possibly a successor to finish it, but it's the kind of challenge he's been waiting for. Even now, only the foundations of what will one day be your races first ecumenopolis are built out of super durable and dense materials- but even now, the oceanic pressures on these are too great to continue without richer materials. The Azurium will be needed. Right underneath the Consortium's nose; you've stolen a natural cache of the stuff, begun to mine and refine it, and send it off for shipping across the entire empire...

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Fri 09 Dec 2022 09:12:38 No.5490616 Report

Quoted By: >>5490715 >>5490880

Meanwhile; at home on Jaxt, on one quiet evening after you retired from your Supremely duties, your son wishes to speak to you.

You have a son. His name is Yino. Ever since he was very young, he showed great signs of sophistication and skill- especially in the arts. While AI technology can easily replicate any sort of visual or interactive medium of any style in existence, with a nigh-perfect level of quality. Despite this- there is a certain cultural relevance and value in art created by hand, in the old ways. Sculpture, painting, live performance and music- these are traits of a great and mighty old culture. While it's rare; sometimes Supreme Rulers have direct offspring who also show the signs of Supremacy. Yino does.

“Father? May I ask you something?”
”Of course, my Son. You may ask me about anything.”
“Why do you do the things you do?”
”Hmm? That's a very philosophical question. Is Cijan blowing hot air again? Or is this perhaps the work of Clok; trying to fill your mind with deep thoughts and psychoanalysis?”
“No Father, nobody put me up to ask you.”
”Then I'm not sure what you ask. Why does anyone do anything? The pressures of evolutionary biology commingling with learned experience- this is the nature of free will.”
“I mean the genocides.”
”...”
“I mean... you really did kill all those people. Didn't you?”
”Yes, I did kill those people.”
“But... Why?”
”Why? I'm sure your tutors in history can fill you in on the context of the events leading up to me wearing the Death-Mask...”
“No! I'm not talking about history. I'm talking about what is inside. Inside of you and me- and those people too. The consciousness. That's what everyone teaches- that all living things are alive, aware, consciousness of the world. Each one lives their own life- totally separate from everyone else- and you just... ended it. I can't understand it, Father. You've always been so loving to me and mom. But how can you kill all those poor creatures. Those aliens were aware, just like you and me.”
”I see. You have experienced it- a unique sensation. Sonder. It's not something that lesser minds necessarily ever experience; especially not at a young age.”
“What's that?”
”Sonder. The realization that every person that exists is living their own inner life- with their own thoughts and feelings, the realization that everyone you meet is as complex and in-their-own-world as you are; that you are just a background character in the grand portrait of their life. That their life is going on at each moment yours is, if you are aware of it or not.”

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Fri 09 Dec 2022 09:13:39 No.5490617 Report

Quoted By: >>5490628 >>5490715

“So all those aliens were the same. But you killed them; and did bad things to them. I don't understand how you can know and feel that, and yet also end their lives. Isn't killing wrong, Father? Even if they were not our people, they were still living things that feel pain. They wanted to live.”
”The context is what matters, Son. Parasites want to live; even as they sicken and kill their hosts. Predators want to inflict fear and pain upon their prey; and will die if they do not. Does their desire trump the desire of their victims?”
“I don't know.”
”You are not prepared for such a line of questioning, I know. But I will still answer your question as honestly as I can. I do not intend to talk down to you, my Son. Nor will I lie to you.”
“Then can you explain?”
”I will. The truth is, my Son, I have inflicted great pain and suffering. I have ended many lives and innocents. And I did so willingly, while fully aware of what I was doing. Wearing the Mask of the Unspeakable dulled the edge; it was much easier to fall into the mindset of ignoring their screams- but I still heard them. I have ordered the execution by torture of children much younger then yourself. They were as aware as you are, as fearful of this outcome as you no doubt are, and despite this, I did it anyway.”
“Isn't that... evil?”
”No, Son. Evil does not exist. What we call evil is subjective; based on our societal and evolutionary norms. To us, the existence of the Hazaar on a fertile world was evil; they were taking land and resources from the Jaxtians. By being there, they inflicted suffering on the Jaxtian people. Just imagine the cost- the difficulty of the average young or low-ranking Jaxtian wanting so badly to have a family on a habitable planet; but they cannot, all of our other colonies are already full. The Hazaar being killed was then an objective good for our own citizens; if only to lower their taxes by a tiny amount. Is that evil?”
“It sounds like an excuse...”
”It is an excuse; as all things are. All things we do are for our own benefits- and that includes every living creature and every conscious mind. Including the aliens too. They weren't hurting anyone; at least in their own minds, but neither does a rapist think he is hurting anyone; only retaliating against the constant rejection or humiliating inflicted upon him by his unwilling love interest. Nobody woke up one morning and decided to be evil; only from context or a fault in the brain chemistry does one do things that we consider evil. We consider anything we do for our people- our race- our nation to be good; where as those things done only for oneself are evil. This is only because the Hegemony has supplanted the individual's-instinct for the group-instinct.”

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Fri 09 Dec 2022 09:14:55 No.5490619 Report

Quoted By: >>5490715

“Are you evil? Are we evil?”
”We are evil. We are pure evil. We are good. We are pure good. For every Vetuck murdered by drone strike- a Jaxtian's dinner plate became richer from new farmland. For every Swall bunker stormed and Swall soldier gunned dead, a Jaxtian felt the rush of pride from his people's strength and ferocity in battle. For every Hazaar forced to watch one of their disgusting spawn melted alive by acid- a Jaxtian could feel the intoxicating sense of justice; as the one who betrayed us was a Blue Hazaar- though that one was loyal. Does it matter? It does not. There are no Gods or Karmas. There is no divine punishment coming to punish me for my sins...”
“...Except making your son an artist?”
”Pfft Haha! Such a clever boy you are- but in the end, all living things are conscious. But their consciousness will never be important as your own, or ours. It matters not if they feel pain, because we have the strength over them- and there is nothing they could do about it. The weak should fear the strong. They were never truly a threat to us; even the excuses the Hegemony invented for what I've done fall flat under scrutiny. They were too separated from the Hegemony's core population and too much of a minority to ever truly manipulate public opinion. I did what I did for one reason; they were a scapegoat. Fully and completely blameless in the political upheaval of the crisis- I knew this fully and yet despite this unleashed all manner of suffering and hell upon them; and our people cheered and rejoiced at the strength of their leader and united against the common “threat”. It was as if we blamed the helpless old sick woman of the village for our misfortunes, branded her a witch, and then cast her into the fire. Is this evil? No- it is not evil, and it is not even a crime, because the glorious leader demanded it and it was done and the people rejoiced in doing the right thing.”
”Your Majesty. The Chief of Security Intelligence wishes to speak with you. He says he has found it.”
”Ah. I am sorry my Son, but I must go now. I hope this speech has enlightened you.”
“...It has. Thank you father.”

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Fri 09 Dec 2022 09:15:56 No.5490620 Report

Quoted By: >>5490623 >>5490628 >>5490632 >>5490644 >>5490669 >>5490710 >>5490715 >>5490769 >>5490787 >>5490878 >>5491061 >>5491097 >>5491100 >>5491209 >>5491332

“... If I may say, my Lord, I have seen some of your Son's paintings. They look just as good as the ones they have at the Supreme's Palace; you know, the ones drawn by the greatest masters of the Hegemony's traditional arts? With a lifetime of study?”
”Well, I try to avoid complimenting him directly as to not shake his work ethic. He has greatly improved though, that is true.”
“How old did you say he was?”
”He is seven.”
“...Ahh.”

Your Security Intelligence Advisor motions towards the monitor.

“We finally found it, my Lord. The Esaal's forward operating base on the border between our territories. They are operating in unmarked no-man's land yet again. It was found orbiting around Brown Dwarf #3, of course the last place we checked...”
”Good. Do they know that we know?”
“No, they do not. The AI secreted out the location by cross-analyzing gravity distortions and signals that were just ever so slightly elevated over the background noise. They are spying on us from here- and this is certainly where the Dark Ship stopped to resupply before their bombing run on Andoen.”
”Hmm. I will take back this territory and destroy this base. Threes, likely courses of action?”
”You have the element of surprise, your grace. The base is located on an orbital body and is susceptible to bombing. It could be easily destroyed by kinetic weapons before it could retaliate. But there is another possibility- if a small ship with a boarding crew of the Death-Commandos was used; it could be subdued by stealth instead.”
“The computer is right, my liege. We know the Esaal troops are weaker then our own.”
”But there will always be a risk of failure or causalities with a boarding action.”
“Hmm...”

>Bomb the base
>Capture it stealthily

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Fri 09 Dec 2022 09:19:02 No.5490623 Report

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>>5490620
>Capture it stealthily

We can always bomb the base if the stealth-capture fails; the reverse is not true.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Fri 09 Dec 2022 09:25:57 No.5490628 Report

Quoted By: >>5490675 >>5490769 >>5491220

>>5490617
Jesus christ Wrix is evil. Fuck this guy.

>>5490620
>Capture it stealthily
Yeah, so remember the thing about war starting if we attacked the Essal again?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Fri 09 Dec 2022 09:33:52 No.5490632 Report

Quoted By:

>>5490620
>Capture it stealthily
shhhh

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Fri 09 Dec 2022 09:59:12 No.5490644 Report

Quoted By:

>>5490620
>Capture it stealthily
Remwmber that time we killed the Esaal major and his superior proclaimed it won't be as easy this time? Good, now let's test our death squads.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:BzjoaAT0 Fri 09 Dec 2022 11:01:05 No.5490668 Report

Quoted By:

>>5490407
>jokes on you,i was being retarded on purpose

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:BzjoaAT0 Fri 09 Dec 2022 11:05:27 No.5490669 Report

Quoted By:

>>5490620
>Capture it stealthily
We have those Death Commandos for a reason, don't we? I doubt they'll blow up the whole thing when they land due to their honor autism.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:BzjoaAT0 Fri 09 Dec 2022 11:19:51 No.5490675 Report

Quoted By: >>5490684

>>5490628
I really, really hope that discovering the secrets of starsight might let people create some sort of religion, i'm tired of the retarded 'hurr durr evil good' atheism of the hegemony

This isn't even a good excuse, it's just 'I did it because it felt good lol'

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Fri 09 Dec 2022 11:36:23 No.5490684 Report

Quoted By: >>5490686 >>5490717

>>5490675
Yeah, it's literally just
>le epic moral relativism xd
Maybe if Wrix's son got kidnapped and tortured by the Essals he'd start to have a think about it, but he'd probably go
>When they torture MY son that's evil
>But when I torture kids (for some reason wtf does that accomplish) that's GOOD!
It's just cringey evil. I'm expecting a monologue about kicking puppies next up.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Fri 09 Dec 2022 11:38:00 No.5490686 Report

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>>5490684
>When I kick puppies, that's a GOOD thing! The puppies were in my way, negatively impacting my happiness! Therefore puppies are EVIL!

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Fri 09 Dec 2022 12:20:24 No.5490710 Report

Quoted By:

>>5490620
>Capture it stealthily
We made the Super Alphas for a reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 09 Dec 2022 12:28:30 No.5490715 Report

Quoted By:

>>5490615
Didn’t really want to Frankenstein this planet over the bones of the Swalli, but I’d accept making Mann worth a damn as a small victory.

>>5490616
>>5490617
>>5490619
Jesus, you really jumped passed the Moral Event Horizon, haven’t you Bananas? I… I can only hope that you haven’t gone too far yet.

>>5490620
>Capture it stealthily
Don’t send Jale please, just don’t.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:BzjoaAT0 Fri 09 Dec 2022 12:29:29 No.5490717 Report

Quoted By: >>5490722

>>5490684
It's not even correct moral relativism
>Oh it's okay that we tortured and killed the vetucker who did nothing wrong because people were united!
No they fucking werent, you just killed anyone who wasn't completely subservient. If killing the vetucker 'united' the jaxtians, he wouldn't have had to kill over a billion of them. The Hazaar part makes sense - they suck, and the biggest traitor was a blue hazaar, so it makes sense why they'd want to kill them.

But who the fuck wanted to kill the vetucker outside of him? Even the supremacists like Kerjak didn't seem to give a mind to them.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Fri 09 Dec 2022 12:32:27 No.5490722 Report

Quoted By: >>5490725

>>5490717
>But who the fuck wanted to kill the vetucker outside of him?
The ghost of Akule "retard /pol/cel Hitler" Naonae

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:BzjoaAT0 Fri 09 Dec 2022 12:35:47 No.5490725 Report

Quoted By: >>5490726 >>5490730

>>5490722
That's not even a good excuse

Akule let the blondes survive because they were cool. Wrix is just a little bitch who likes torturing people because he feels like a lesser supreme.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Fri 09 Dec 2022 12:37:10 No.5490726 Report

Quoted By: >>5490730

>>5490725
>a little bitch who likes torturing people
Well, he likes torturing people, then he kind of gets tired and complains about torturing people, and then he decides it was okay to torture people after all.

Truly a beloved and compelling MC.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 09 Dec 2022 12:40:29 No.5490730 Report

Quoted By:

>>5490725
>>5490726
Honestly make you wonder if Cijan would have been more compelling desu.

Either way, no need reach the 1000 post mark over this.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Fri 09 Dec 2022 13:21:42 No.5490769 Report

Quoted By: >>5490775

>>5490620
>Capture it stealthily

>>5490628
>Wrix is evil
>The Hegemony values displays of strength and dominance over morals such as compassion for the weak
The Hegemony is a fascist and supremacist ethnostate. This is that that ideology entails. Wrix took it further than strictly necessary, but he was ALSO trying to make an example of the xenos so as to terrify and subjugate the Jaxtians who survived it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:BzjoaAT0 Fri 09 Dec 2022 13:30:13 No.5490775 Report

Quoted By: >>5490787 >>5490790

>>5490769
The Hegemony is not supposed to be evil for no fucking reason, or at the very least it *wasn't*

The 'example' he made of the xenos had absolutely no fucking point, not to mention he already killed all the jaxtians who even questioned his government. Not only that, he also allowed all the people who actually, literally betrayed the government to stay safe in the vassal state.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4HFb14OX Fri 09 Dec 2022 13:45:33 No.5490787 Report

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>>5490775
The 'example' he made of the xenos had absolutely no fucking point,

>The Hegemony is a facist and supremacist ethnostate.

The example was the point.
Not only is evident proof to anyone sane how insanely bat shit the Supreme Ruler is, but theoretically anyone in the future can point to this example as *proof* of why we are Supreme- are ruthlessness, our cruelty, and so our >>5490620
power.

I say theoretically, because in my eyes a space age empire genociding two insanely technologically weaker species doesn’t prove they’re powerful at all, only that they’re *evil*.

But I am also neither fascist nor supremacist, while the Jaxtians- the main target for this Example, now and for many more generations- most certainly are.

>>5490620
>Capture it stealthily

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Fri 09 Dec 2022 13:48:15 No.5490790 Report

Quoted By: >>5490794 >>5490871

>>5490775
>no reason
He has a reason. It's just not a reason you find acceptable. I don't, either... But the real life fascists of Earth judge such things differently. Nazi prison experiments gleaned knowledge and eliminated/punished "parasites" through torturous means sometimes, for example. The Imperial Japanese raped and murdered in creatuve and horrifying ways for DAYS in Manchuria/Nanking, to the point that the Nazi German abassador felt compelled to step in to protect the Chinese; during the Chinese Civil War prior, the Nationalists and Communists inflicted atrocities almost as bad upon one another when they felt especially aggrieved. While not necessarily fascist, the ethnosupremacist ideology of westward expansion and Manifest Destiny included seemingly-unnecessary cruelty and mutilation such as what happened at Sand Creek. These are not acts of evil done for no reason, much as they disgust me (and likely you). They are the channeling and purging of darker instincts to kill and violate, ecnouraged by a militarist ideology, channeled towards the utter destruction of a population deemed desrving of such treatment. In the Hegemony's case, such displays also served as "proof" that Akule's spirit was alive again, to maintain the aura of terror and dominance which even now prevents anyone from second-guessing the Supreme.

I'm glad you don't consider this good or acceptable. It means you aren't an ethnonationalist military fascist... Or, if you are, that you at least haven't abandoned all your empathy for 'the other'. All those Supremes who spared, tolerated, even appreciated xenos were the same: they believed they were superior, but they had allowed themselves to beocme gradually more liberal and tolerant. They spared Hazaar, spared people like Aumunu, did things like promote or have sex with xenos. But these were all deviations from the Hegemony's base ideology, where only a select few non-Mainlanders were allowed to exist, and only through eugenics programs that made them as close to Mainlanders as possible.

As for the vassal state... Yeah, not sure why the HVS is tolerated. My guess in QM felt that, after we voted to establish a buffer state as one of Cijan's signature policies, immediately absorbing it without another vote would upset us players even more. Maybe we'll vote on what to do with it soon, now that Bluey is a Jaxtian and the neighbouring empires essentially view it as Jaxtian territory anyway? Or maybe it will be our Belarus -- a territory everyone recognizes as a puppet of the neighbouring great power, but which is ostensibly separate for political purposes?

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Fri 09 Dec 2022 13:50:40 No.5490793 Report

Quoted By: >>5490794 >>5490801

Please stop.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:BzjoaAT0 Fri 09 Dec 2022 13:51:46 No.5490794 Report

Quoted By: >>5490801

>>5490790
Except, none of this makes sense. You can't compare this to an prison experiment on someone explicitly *supposed to be eliminated*, you fool. Wrix said that he killed the vetucker because it 'unified' the Jaxtian, but he didn't do that, because if he did, then he wouldn't have had to kill billions of jaxtians.
>>5490793
my brother in akule you wrote the monologue

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Fri 09 Dec 2022 14:00:13 No.5490801 Report

Quoted By: >>5490803

>>5490794
A very, VERY small number of Jaxtians were killed in the grand scheme of their species' numbers -- just the biggest dissenters. Instead, Akule slaughtered Vetuckers as a scapegoat, a training dummy to demonstrate all his cruelty upon while Jaxtians watched and wrre grateful it wasn't them... And for Lebensraum. This was more like the other examples than the Nazi prison experiments (though I bet we learned a lot of medical and military discoveries in the process of torturing them to death).

>>5490793
Bananas, you can't write a lengthy monologue about a fascist dictator (who is already controversial among the players) torturing children to death and justifying it to a seven year old without expecting players to get confused and/or upset. If you don't want us to focus on these elements at such length, why do you write about them with such detail rather than staying impersonal and zoomed out as in the first few threads?

Do you want us to engage with your art, or not?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:BzjoaAT0 Fri 09 Dec 2022 14:02:13 No.5490803 Report

Quoted By: >>5490806

>>5490801
>A very, VERY small number of Jaxtians were killed in the grand scheme of their species' numbers
Billions, yes, and nobody was 'unified' by the vetucker genocide. Everyone who became 'subservient' did so because of fear of the mask, BEFORE he even started ot kill the vetuckers. The Hazaar were already being killed with fault, so they were already a scapegoat, and a much bigger one.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Fri 09 Dec 2022 14:04:33 No.5490806 Report

Quoted By: >>5490812

>>5490803
Maybe. We did a timeskio, so we can't say for sure, but I'm pretty sure what Wrix (and Bananas) is communicating here is that the initial terror of the mask was spread and enforced by the cruelty and supremacist violence perpetrated while wearing it, over those 15 years. THAT'S why monkes Wrix has never met do not ever question him even decades after taking olthe mask off.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:BzjoaAT0 Fri 09 Dec 2022 14:06:34 No.5490812 Report

Quoted By: >>5490816

>>5490806
Except 'obey the supreme leader' isn't exactly new, people already ate biocubes gladly just because Eoba ate them as a kid.

Simply put, there was nothing that was actually gained by the vetucker other than their land...which doesn't make sense, because if he gave a fuck about lebensraun, he'd have acquired the vassal state land
>oh but it'd piss off the esaal!
If he gave a fuck about that, he wouldn't have spent 15 years without preparing for war, no?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Fri 09 Dec 2022 14:13:24 No.5490816 Report

Quoted By: >>5490824

>>5490812
Okay, anon. I'm just pointing out the internal logic stated in the quest by the characters, and pointing out the way it seems directly related to the mechanical effects bequeathed on us. People questioned the Supreme before, and there was internal division that was beginning to border on civil war; after Wrix tortured entire species to death and gifted the Jaxtians their land, we got an explicit mechanical reward of absoute obedience, and Wrix then explained the two were related in his opinion.

You're welcome to disagree. I'm glad you do. I'm personally just as troubled by torturing baby Hazaar and baby Vetuckers, but this is the ideology of Akule "Let's drown all the Redmanes to death in a big cage" Nanoae's Hegemony, restored to its original "glory".

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Fri 09 Dec 2022 14:13:30 No.5490817 Report

Quoted By: >>5490821 >>5490841 >>5490878 >>5490977

Listen, this quest is inherently about political topics- often sensitive or extreme ones. That's fine. The problem is that you CANNOT talk about real world history, politics, and ESPECIALLY Nazi Germany on 4chan in good faith because people WILL inevitably start sperging out. Autists CANNOT simply accept someone has a different opinion then them and just let it go while focusing on the game. It's asking for trouble and encourages people to begin and continue arguments that have NOTHING to do with the quest.

I specifically and very deliberate chose NOT to have humans in this quest on purpose for this very reason. While I am 100% sure you (the person reading this) have the level of maturity to understand and not sperg out, this quest is popular enough that there ARE people out here who will read anything this innocuous as "rape of Nanking bad" and will start sperging out about politics or conspiracy theories.

All I ask is this- If anyone DOES post a real world allegory or historical similarity to something that happens in the quest, please refrain from "correcting" or challenging the viewpoint in a real world context as to not start a pointless argument. Please do not invite or continue any discussion that would make the thread off topic or even invite deletion from the mods. Thank you.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Fri 09 Dec 2022 14:17:13 No.5490821 Report

Quoted By: >>5491753

>>5490817
>Draw direct and deliberate parallels to real-world ideologies and ethnic groups
>But please pretend not to recognize them
I do not think this is reasonable as a request, personally. Out of respect for you as a QM, I won't bother to play if this is a condition.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:BzjoaAT0 Fri 09 Dec 2022 14:19:53 No.5490824 Report

Quoted By: >>5490826

>>5490816
>t this is the ideology of Akule "Let's drown all the Redmanes to death in a big cage" Nanoae's Hegemony, restored to its original "glory".
Even Akule spared the Blondes, there was really no point OR benefit in killing the vetuckers. The Hazaar? Yes. the Swalli? Yes. But again, there was no actual reason for the vetucker genocide. That one was completely pointless.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Fri 09 Dec 2022 14:26:17 No.5490826 Report

Quoted By: >>5490837

>>5490824
Take it uo with QM. All I'll say is that it isn't without precedent, and justifications have been made to this effect before, both in quest and in the events and materials which inform this quest. I don't think there's really any way to adequately illustrate or explain that to someone while still divorcing the quest from that context... But that's what BQM wants.

I'm out.

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Fri 09 Dec 2022 14:56:17 No.5490837 Report

Quoted By: >>5490853 >>5490871

>>5490826
Look m8, all I'm asking is don't post off topic political debate and don't fall for it.

"I'm out." - See you Jan 2nd lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 09 Dec 2022 15:04:54 No.5490841 Report

Quoted By:

>>5490817
You want a conspiracy theory? The Swalli invented portal tech and warped the fuck out before V-Day, and the Ventuck were descended from the dead giant race from Andoen, possibly a splinter race, more likely as sapient cattle. The Catmen-Worm Conspiracy goes even deeper, with baby wormlings impregnating/gestating in the Catmen themselves when not in the Whale via Alien-style, and Catmen actively hunt Space-Whales for Social Networking benefits. The Esaal may appear strong, but it’s really a rotting house waiting for a good firm kick and a match to burn the whole State down into internal rebellions and the like. Captain Val has gone native- very literally! And he’s impregnated half-the Aristocracy with Yellow-Huzzar, leading to a new fashion trend among the leading cabal!

It’s all quite scandalous, I know. This and more, on-

*bang*

*tap tap*

Hello, this is Hegemony Starlink News, Internal Airwave Repair. This channel is now cleared for official, fact-checked, state-sponsored news. Now back to the current program!

You decide! Biocubes or Patriotcub-

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:luylBjDH Fri 09 Dec 2022 15:53:31 No.5490853 Report

Quoted By: >>5490859 >>5490871 >>5490899

>>5490837
Increasingly, fascism IS the topic in this quest. It's something I can deal with, but it is less and less fun as you keep posying monologues, and if now I'm going to be sitting through pages of fascist colonial despots explaining their manifestos while increasingly-toxic anons have sanitized debates about the merits of fascism while carefully avoiding actual discussion of the reasons and results behind fascism... It's not a fun quest for me anymore. It's just a frustrating experience.

I wasn't planning to reply, but your spoilered comment rankled me, especially since I was trying to be respectful. Just becuase your more hostile players accuse me of riding your dick and thoughtlessly consuming your content doesn't mean it's true. Don't get too full of yourself, man. I hope you are enjoying yourself and that your quest succeeds. You're very talented. I'm not having fun, though, so I'm not coming back.

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Fri 09 Dec 2022 16:03:04 No.5490859 Report

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>>5490853
Ok. Sorry to hear that.

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Fri 09 Dec 2022 16:29:41 No.5490871 Report

Quoted By: >>5490902 >>5490932 >>5491041 >>5491286

>>5490853
Naw you know what, that's not what I actually wanted to say. I'd like to apologize to you specifically. I don't know if you'll ever see this, but I can see now how what I wrote could be misconstrued as an edgy cool guy diss, which wasn't what I really meant. I thought you were being annoying at your original post here >>5490790 because you brought up real world politics, though I actually thought the post was really good and interesting to read (plus was exactly what I was going for with the speech), and because I blamed you the poster for making it instead of blaming any potential people who cause problems because of it, which wasn't fair. I apologize. Also when I posted this >>5490837 I was partially meme'ing and trying to do the whole "you're here forever because my quest is just SO good" but yeah that's pretty arrogant and shitty thing to say, so I'm sorry for that.

I've been pretty on edge since last thread for obvious reasons so someone bringing up the whole "this quest is about fascism" thing when I make ever possible effort to explain that it LITERALLY ISN'T I decided to take it out on you and instantly try and shut down any perceived debates, but I was wrong to do that. I hope anyone reading this understands I merely wanted to avoid waking up to a 100+ derail about "le holocaust not real? Or if real not bad tho???" nonsense if I didn't instantly reply to it before I went to bed. I didn't mean in any way to stifle your or this Anon's in particular creative freedoms when it comes to discussing the quest; which is objectively a good thing and a hightlight for me. Thank you for reading. The quest will continue and update at the usual time later today.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Fri 09 Dec 2022 16:46:17 No.5490878 Report

Quoted By:

>>5490620
>>5490817
Okay.

Also
>Capture it stealthily
SEND IN THE DEATH COMMANDOS!
Dun dun dun!

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:yr3FZvnc Fri 09 Dec 2022 16:48:18 No.5490880 Report

Quoted By:

>>5490616
Is the Hegemony so far gone that NOT being a total solipsist is seen as a special condition?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:OODz/82w Fri 09 Dec 2022 17:21:12 No.5490899 Report

Quoted By: >>5490932 >>5491041

>>5490853
>Increasingly, fascism IS the topic in this quest. It's something I can deal with, but it is less and less fun as you keep posying monologues, and if now I'm going to be sitting through pages of fascist colonial despots explaining their manifestos while increasingly-toxic anons have sanitized debates about the merits of fascism while carefully avoiding actual discussion of the reasons and results behind fascism... It's not a fun quest for me anymore. It's just a frustrating experience

This. When you have us playing Nazisimulator 3000 you are going to attract people who enjoy playing as Nazis and repel those who don't. And you write your MCs constantly talking about how good the really fucked up shit they do is, that's gonna have an effect on the players.

In character genocidal manifestos are still genocidal manifestos. At the end of the day, we play the this quest for fun and less and less people are going to find melting babies and rape camps fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:OODz/82w Fri 09 Dec 2022 17:26:54 No.5490902 Report

Quoted By: >>5490932

>>5490871
>I hope anyone reading this understands I merely wanted to avoid waking up to a 100+ derail about "le holocaust not real? Or if real not bad tho ???
Then, I ask this in good faith, why are you doing a thread about a dictatorship committing genocide? You say the thread isn't about fascism but you are making use of a player "character" with increasingly fascists tendencies.

The entire government was founded by, as another anon pointed here, a /pol/cel.

If you don't want this thread to get bogged down in real world political stuff why are you making it about real work politics. Swapping out the humans for nonhumans doesn't make it any less political than when District 9, or Animal Farm or X-Men or the Better Butter War did it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Fri 09 Dec 2022 18:13:26 No.5490932 Report

Quoted By: >>5490977

>>5490871
I accept the apology and am sorry for shitting up the thread with this discussion. However, I do increasingly sympathize with the arguments made in >>5490899 and >>5490902. I will check in later, but the shift in focus from impersonal top-down society and empire-building to psychological and philosophical explorations is what has shifted this quest (for me) from "a quest with fascism in it" to "a quest about fascism". It's probably a minor distinction to some, but it's impacting my enjoyment and I at least need a break.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Fri 09 Dec 2022 19:00:41 No.5490977 Report

Quoted By: >>5491286

>>5490817
What I like most about this quest for the sci-fi aspect of building the Hegemony as a space empire. I have no problems with Jaxtian Fascism, they are Klingons pretending to be Vulcans and I find that amusing. I partially agree with this anon here >>5490932 , The story has shifted from a top-down view of the Hegemony and we started to see more and more of the inner side of the characters and of the Hegemony as a whole.

This isn't something inherently bad, without it we wouldn't have had the utter kino of the Eoba II Vs. the Worm fight, that was for me the peak of this quest, and presented something that hasn't been explored yet, the paradoxical nature of the Hegemony. Our ideology has a pseudo-fatalistic view of the Hegemony as the power to defeat entropy, it presents a self-fulfilling prophecy that is at odds with the scientific and, more importantly, deterministic view of the universe. There is no inertia that can stop entropy, which is why the Hegemony must CHOOSE to do it. Eoba was the only Supreme Leader, no, the only character to choose heroism. Kima was a cog in the Jaxtian machine and a cog she remained, her becoming a billionair in the HVC shows us the the HVC is going through the same degenerative capitalism as Jaxt in the time of Akule, only with the Hegemony over their heads. Cijan belived that biological determinism would save him from Kima and Wrix embraced quasi-solipsism.

What we need is a character to have the same revelation as Eoba II the based, and for that I await to see the Jaxtian Star-Sight Axial Age.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Fri 09 Dec 2022 19:11:48 No.5490986 Report

Quoted By: >>5490990

OMG you guys, a recent article on RT is all about Putin explaining how this quest inspired him to "reconquesta" Ukraine and has essentially been the sole reason for all his tactics and actions so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:OODz/82w Fri 09 Dec 2022 19:17:44 No.5490990 Report

Quoted By: >>5490994 >>5491041 >>5491062

>>5490986
No one is saying this quest is going to inspire real world atrocities, they are saying

1. That BQM saying they want to avoid political discussions such as defense of genocide while they are writing characters doing just that is a self defeating action.
2. That the thread's greater focus on the Hegemony engaging with , defending and celebrating horrific government actions that directly parallel irl atrocities is making it less enjoyable as entertainment.

I do not think it is fair to write two threads with the central thesis of "You know what, genociding minorites is way cool" and then write off reasonable responses to that as "autistic screeching." (And as a side bar way to insult Autistic people.(

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Fri 09 Dec 2022 19:20:48 No.5490994 Report

Quoted By: >>5491953

>>5490990
I had that post up for 30 seconds tops before regretting it.

You are pounding the Update button.

You have autism.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Fri 09 Dec 2022 20:07:15 No.5491041 Report

Quoted By:

>>5490871
based sincere apology

>>5490899
I agree with this post. I'm not so pressed about it that I'm actually going to leave, but you have to remember that 49% of the playerbase voted against the mask, OP. This is very cool as art but it's unpleasant as a game where we control a character.

>>5490990
>And as a side bar way to insult Autistic people.
Anon, I'm lefty/pol/ too, but we are literally on 4chan. You have to let some things go.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qMKUZkE7 Fri 09 Dec 2022 20:22:24 No.5491061 Report

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>>5490620
>Bomb the base

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Fri 09 Dec 2022 20:23:18 No.5491062 Report

Quoted By: >>5491069 >>5491077 >>5491086

>>5490990
>"You know what, genociding minorites is way cool"
I don't think this is a fair way of describing things. If Bananas wanted to glorify fascism he could've made Akule a badass Ubermonke instead of a whiny little bitch, and he wouldn't have spent 3 pointless updates portraying Vetucker life before we slaughtered all of them like cattle. We're clearly supposed to view this ideology as distasteful at best and evil at worst, and that seems to be the way everybody's reacting to it-- I have seen zero people agreeing with Wrix this update.

The problem is that most of us are coming to play a fun civ game (because that's how the quest was set up in the first five threads) not grapple with philosophy or get into the fun and exciting mindset of The Space Version Of The Prominent Fascist Group Of The 1940s Which Shall Not Be Named. Anons have a lot of tolerance of (and even relish for) villain MCs... provided that the quest sets the MC up as a villain from the start. Slapping anons in the face with YOU'RE A BAD BAD EVIL GUY ACTUALLY when the majority of their efforts have been to make the Hegemony *less* fascist feels unearned and unpleasant and I really would've liked it contained to Boys & Girls. But that cat's well out of the bag now.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Fri 09 Dec 2022 20:29:04 No.5491069 Report

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>>5491062
>unearned and unpleasant
I mean, besides the Mask, to be clear. But that was one EXTREMELY contentious decision after a basically unbroken string of liberalization, and to have that one decision wipe basically 100% of the liberalization progress of the first five threads out is... a move. That Bananas certainly has made. I don't think it should earn us a lecture.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:tkZLdjk4 Fri 09 Dec 2022 20:39:33 No.5491077 Report

Quoted By: >>5491089

>>5491062
I think even if us the players register the Hegemony's actions as evil (and that's a solid if given many of the posts here) having the Hegemony being consistently and in-universely presented uncritically stull creates that "way cool" impression.

If you look at other villain protagonist stories such as "You" or "Death Note" you still get the protagonist centered morality and window into the darkness stuff but their actions are still shown as bad through the narrative (L, the various antagonists in You)

The "The Hegemony are MEANT to be the bad guys, that's the point " defense doesn't hold sway when we have no actual"good guys" and when the "bad guys" are only bad because of how we the audience perceive them and not any in-universe consequences.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:tkZLdjk4 Fri 09 Dec 2022 20:46:46 No.5491086 Report

Quoted By: >>5491089 >>5491572

>>5491062
As an aside I think Akule's arc in the prequel was actually a good example of a "bad guy protag" (despite the pretty crappy writing imo)

The whole quest was about how Akule was a petulant little shit and his kidnapping was a classic heroes journey where he was presented with the choice to grow as a person and he did, with the tragedy that we was still a horrible little shit, he just became a self confident and competent horrible little shit instead of a seething monke projecting his, envy self hatred and low self esteem.

But that worked because we had the Blondes as the "other way" we could get tragic narrative value out of Akule rejecting. We don't have anything like that atm.

For all the flak the prequels get, they would be worse if instead of the Jedi and Obi-Wan we got, we had a group who just reinforced Annie's possessiveness and war crimes .

The thread right now is like the Prequels if everyone agreed with Palpatine.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Fri 09 Dec 2022 20:48:49 No.5491089 Report

Quoted By: >>5491218 >>5491286

>>5491077
> consistently and in-universely presented uncritically stull
Boys & Girls was all about presenting the Hegemony in a critical IC light. The Vetucker interlude last thread presented the Hegemony in a critical IC light. The Yuan'Tul interlude way back presented the Hegemony in a critical IC light, before Bananas undercut that by making his ultimate philosophy coomerism. It's really hard to do this without cutaways because we're literally playing as a guy nobody could dare to question, surrounded by yes-men and billions of state-indoctrinated plebs.

I think Bananas should be able to trust us as grown adults capable of using critical thinking when consuming media.

>>5491086
>The thread right now is like the Prequels if everyone agreed with Palpatine.
I mean, yes. I agree that that'd make the Prequels (even more) painful and uncomfortable to watch. I don't agree that that'd make the Prequels glorify Palpatine, depending on how things were written and framed.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Vqnmz8Fi Fri 09 Dec 2022 20:57:48 No.5491097 Report

Quoted By:

>>5490620
>Capture it stealthily

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:VQmYTG96 Fri 09 Dec 2022 20:59:29 No.5491100 Report

Quoted By:

>>5490620
>Capture it stealthily

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Fri 09 Dec 2022 22:34:01 No.5491209 Report

Quoted By: >>5491217 >>5491220

>>5490620
>Continue monitoring, do not attack it
We JUST had a lengthy debate about how sinking resources into hollowing out a planet instead of building up our fleet was the correct decision because the Esaal will not attack us UNLESS WE GO AND PROVOKE THEM. Why the fuck are we being railroaded into attacking them when we're woefully unprepared for war and have done LITERALLY NOTHING to prepare for war?

Consider this a protest vote. Wrix's speech, Bananas's reaction to anons' reaction to Wrix's speech and now this have solidified what I've been thinking for a while. This isn't fun anymore. So long and thanks for all the fish.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bJq9F2A6 Fri 09 Dec 2022 22:42:36 No.5491217 Report

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>>5491209
This would've been my vote if there was a write-in option or any chance of it being accepted. Stealthy is the least damaging possibility.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qb1qmQUC Fri 09 Dec 2022 22:42:53 No.5491218 Report

Quoted By: >>5491230 >>5491286

>>5491089
I don't think the quest is actually intended to be pro-fasc or that BQM is, I think BQM constantly making the protags do fascist things is contrary with his stated belief that the thread isn't a about fascist and that he doesn't want people seeing it in those political terms.

I also think roleplaying as a cartoonishly evil simian not!Nazi isn't fun, and it's especially not fun when all the other characters are drinking the cool aid .

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bJq9F2A6 Fri 09 Dec 2022 22:46:04 No.5491220 Report

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>>5491209
I'm >>5490628 btw. I will absolutely be pissed if this leads to war, though. That should be up to the anons, particularly when we were just told it'd be up to the anons.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Fri 09 Dec 2022 22:57:48 No.5491230 Report

Quoted By: >>5491286

>>5491218
>I don't think the quest is actually intended to be pro-fasc or that BQM is
>I also think roleplaying as a cartoonishly evil simian not!Nazi isn't fun
Then I think we're in complete agreement.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 09 Dec 2022 23:30:30 No.5491286 Report

Quoted By: >>5491293 >>5491298

>>5490871
I honestly don’t think anons here are Holocaust deniers/apologists Bananas, that just wasn’t the premise of the quest originally.

>>5490977
I don’t think turning the Hegemony into Jedi Iran is the way to go either anon, but I get why you’d think that would be preferable to the current state of affairs.

>>5491089
I think it’s less that and more that he simply wanted a change, not realizing that he was messing up the basic formula with it.

>>5491218
>>5491230
This is another cornerstone I’m going to address- how the quest itself strayed from it’s roots, and the disillusionment it causes now.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Fri 09 Dec 2022 23:32:30 No.5491293 Report

Quoted By: >>5491297

>>5491286
Man you can't keep cockteasing the essay and not delivering. You got an ETA on it?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 09 Dec 2022 23:36:29 No.5491297 Report

Quoted By: >>5491303

>>5491293
I’m hoping to get it out one of these weekends. Unfortunately, I fucked up at my job so badly I might lose it, so I'm currently dealing with that crisis atm.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:BzjoaAT0 Fri 09 Dec 2022 23:37:06 No.5491298 Report

Quoted By: >>5491311 >>5491574

>>5491286
>I don’t think turning the Hegemony into Jedi Iran is the way to go either anon
I for one believe that turning the Hegemony into Jedi Iran is far better than this cringeworthy 'hurr durr evil good' degeneration it has turned into

Maybe if we were still the old 'pragmatism that tries to make things better' hegemony it woulodn't have been an issue, but now the hegemony has shifted from 'We're not evil, we just do what is necessary' to 'We're evil because fuck you there is no god'

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Fri 09 Dec 2022 23:39:59 No.5491303 Report

Quoted By: >>5491311

>>5491297
>family emergency
>job emergency
Truly the Curse comes for all writefags, not just QMs.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 09 Dec 2022 23:47:56 No.5491311 Report

Quoted By: >>5491313

>>5491298
Like I said
>but I get why you’d think that would be preferable to the current state of affairs.
I just think bringing religion into it won’t solve the problem, nor do I want to play as space!Iran.

>>5491303
Not even the Anonymous label will hide us from its wrath. I still don’t know what happened to SBCQM.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:BzjoaAT0 Fri 09 Dec 2022 23:49:16 No.5491313 Report

Quoted By: >>5491329

>>5491311
>I just think bringing religion into it won’t solve the problem
It solves the problem by not giving people the 'hurr durr morality is relative, evil is actually okay because who cares god doesn't exist lol' exit

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 10 Dec 2022 00:00:43 No.5491329 Report

Quoted By: >>5491350 >>5491382 >>5491393

>>5491313
It won’t change the narrative outcome, cause instead of entrenched nihilism it becomes fundamental nihilism instead, back up by pseudo-religious nonsense. Instead of tortured!Wrix trying to justify his actions to himself and his kid by lying about it, we instead get someone who believes that the genocides were a fundamental good instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:EAchPO3w Sat 10 Dec 2022 00:01:38 No.5491332 Report

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>>5490620
>>Capture it stealthily
This genocide good or bad debate is getting repetitive and tiring.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Sat 10 Dec 2022 00:10:00 No.5491350 Report

Quoted By: >>5491374

>>5491329
>Instead of tortured!Wrix trying to justify his actions to himself and his kid by lying about it, we instead get someone who believes that the genocides were a fundamental good instead.
You say this as if finding, not making, a religion would serve the state. You assume that our hypothetical religion would be made to benefit the state when it can very well modify it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 10 Dec 2022 00:28:31 No.5491374 Report

Quoted By: >>5491392

>>5491350
Anon, I’m not interested in creating Monke Jihadi Simulator. I know you want to make Jedi!Christianity, but that simply isn’t going to happen the way you envision.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:BzjoaAT0 Sat 10 Dec 2022 00:36:07 No.5491382 Report

Quoted By: >>5491404

>>5491329
Except he already says that his actions are justified because evil is actually okay. If religion exists, therefore morals exist, therefore you can't just say evil is good

Even if you were to say they could try to use said religion as a scapegoat, it means they have to somehow say why a thing is actually moral, they must work in an system as opposed to saying that anything goes because morality is fake

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Sat 10 Dec 2022 00:42:13 No.5491392 Report

Quoted By: >>5491404

>>5491374
Star Seeing would bring us closer to a jungian quasi-religion if Akule's hallucinations were more than a stream of conciousness.
It would be neither Space!Wahabbism nor Space!Christianity so calm down.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Sat 10 Dec 2022 00:42:40 No.5491393 Report

Quoted By: >>5491404

>>5491329
Are we sure he isn't lying to himself while haunted by his actions? Look at those bags under his eyes. The Ventuckers were harmless and innocent. The Swall were a threat and the hazaar were too to a lesser degree. Deep down he knows he did wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 10 Dec 2022 00:56:27 No.5491404 Report

Quoted By: >>5491428

>>5491382
He says his actions are justified because there is no good or evil, but this clearly is bullshit he created to justify his horrendous actions, whether to himself or to his son, otherwise he wouldn’t have put down the mask or pushed himself to exhaustion with his actions.

And religion won’t solve the genocide problem, the Aztecs sacrificed millions just to appease their Sun God.

>>5491392
I don’t think that would work either, and in practice it’ll effectively turn into space!Islam just to mesh with how the Hegemony operates.

>>5491393
That’s what I believe. The guy is talking to his son, he doesn’t want to say ‘Yea son, your father is a genocidal monster’, but the best he can come up with is that ‘good and evil be bullshit, my reasons don’t really justify my actions, but might makes right’. Clearly he’s coping hard here.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:BzjoaAT0 Sat 10 Dec 2022 01:19:18 No.5491428 Report

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>>5491404
>but this clearly is bullshit he created to justify his horrendous actions,
It would, if not for the fact that multiple characters have spouted this retardation about morality being non-existent

>And religion won’t solve the genocide problem, the Aztecs sacrificed millions just to appease their Sun God
Because it was moral, within their religious system. Which meant other things were also immoral. Which is still much better than the hegemony's current "Evil doesn't exist and even if it did, being evil is good because no God"

Again, we have degenerated severely from the hegemony's initial pragmatism, and i see no other way to get better

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sat 10 Dec 2022 03:05:49 No.5491537 Report

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The secret Esaal base orbits a Brown Dwarf- which is essentially a large gas giant. Lacking the mass to fully ignite and begin the process of fusion; Brown Dwarves nonetheless give off a small amount of heat and radiation from the intense gravity-induced heat and chemical reactions within; though they are protostars that will not fully become stars unless a large amount of mass can be added to them. Despite not being full stars, they still posses a useful gravity well and also lack the visibility of more traditional stars- thus making them perfect for such clandestine operations.

Storming the base with stealth means getting a cruiser close. Because of your Quantum Entanglement technology learned from the ruins of Andoen; you can continue to communicate with the craft even without disturbing hyperspace and raising the alert. And because of the fact you have Death Commandos; who are far and away stronger then all but the toughest Esaal Grenadiers; you can also be sure that they can storm it.

All in all, you know you've made the objectively correct choice.

You are now Jale Berax. And you've always thought soldiering was a young man's game.

It's really strange. It's like you've lived two lives- the first where you worked hard and became a legend, a soldier, and a movie star- then a father and an old man. Then, you went into that machine and came out young again. And young you remain. You're certainly getting older, but it's not the same as before. Your Son is starting to get graying and yet you remain here- as fresh and ready to fight as ever before. Did the life machine curse you to become an immortal soldier- fighting endless battles until you one day are finally put down- never by time and age but only by sword or bullet?

“Sir. We're in position to breech.”
”Oh, right. I was with my thoughts for a second. Heaviest armor takes point. Make sure you have a backup ammo rack. We move quick.”
“Yes sir.”

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sat 10 Dec 2022 03:06:50 No.5491538 Report

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The doors are breached and the battle begins. When stealth fails to be an option, the soldiers move fast instead. Even faster then them is the AI.

The Threemind finally has a chance to prove its stuff against an inferior opponent- the Esaal's base AI- which in and of itself isn't shabby. Cutting off vital escape and control options, the Esaal AI quickly figures out exactly what is happening. Computers don't think the same way people do. When the Esaal AI is confronted by the Threemind- it begins to cut off and scramble its own drivers and control mechanisms; while the Threemind tries to proxy and simulate them to gain control. The Esaal AI knows its own computing cycles will be overtaking as the Threemind splits up into multiple viral attack patterns; so the Esaal AI makes a fighting retreat, slowly deleting its own functions and burning out its own hardware in order to give less and less to the enemy that is a million times smarter and faster then it is. Without any complaint or fear- the Esaal computer sacrifices itself in the ultimate fighting retreat- so that the Threemind has as much work as possible. Threes makes educated guesses and gets the system up and running in mere moments- granting full control of the base over to the Hegemony. All of this takes place in the manner of seconds; digital speed far outpacing the battle in the flesh.

Meanwhile; Jale Berax and his Deathcommandos make a run for the control room, shooting down any Esaal who get in their way. They've learned much since the first time boarding an Esaal spacecraft- the fact the entire base is basically one long corridor actually works to your new combat protocol now- basically just need to charge all the way down with brutal force to get to the command node.

But most amazingly of all- once the base is secured- the hangar is found. And within- a fully intact and docked Stealth Cruiser! It isn't the one that bombed your planet, at least you don't think, but this is an invaluable find...

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sat 10 Dec 2022 03:08:49 No.5491540 Report

Quoted By: >>5491542 >>5491544 >>5491549 >>5491580 >>5491585 >>5491588 >>5491600 >>5491672 >>5491684 >>5491714 >>5491736 >>5491745 >>5491753 >>5491764 >>5491811 >>5491904

Of course, nothing is perfect. As it turns out, a manual laser device set up in the communications bay, totally separate from the AI system, was shot off before the Threemind could cut off its independent power supply. The lasers aren't Hyperwave communicators; they travel at the speed of light. The laser messages were sent to all nearby Esaal colonies- totally impossible to stop now.

The base's leader is the Flight Commander. Him and his immediate crew are captured as they made their message- not even able to arm themselves before being overcame.

“W-What's gonna happen to us now, Sir?”
”They're going to torture us before they kill us, that's for sure. These apes have no honor. They'll shoot a warrior dead instead of getting their knives dirty. They've proven that before.”
“O-Oh no... Please don't...”
”Quiet boy! That's exactly what they want- don't humiliate yourself. Stay strong.”

The base commander turns to you.

”That's right, Monkey. I was the one who shot off the emergency message! It was me! I won't allow my base to wink out without explanation back to high command! Take your anger out on me and do your worst!”

You can tell what the commander is doing; trying to get a rise out of you to spare the worst for his men beneath him. It's quite noble. But you were not given specific instructions on what to do with any prisoners... It's too late to keep the Esaal from knowing about this attack, though it will take a few years for the message to reach them from the light lag. The base and ship are totally disabled and disarmed; it is no longer a threat- the crew poses no more harm to the Hegemony. What should you do with these Prisoners in the meantime?

>Torture them and beam the footage along with the emergency signal to send a message
>Just kill them quick and be done with it
>Send them back home on an escape pod as a show of good faith

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Sat 10 Dec 2022 03:12:11 No.5491542 Report

Quoted By: >>5491549

>>5491540
>Send them back home on an escape pod as a show of good faith

IF WE PROVOKE THE ESSAL WE GO TO WAR
>IF WE PROVOKE THE ESSAL WE GO TO WAR
IF WE PROVOKE THE ESSAL WE GO TO WAR
>IF WE PROVOKE THE ESSAL WE GO TO WAR
IF WE PROVOKE THE ESSAL WE GO TO WAR
>IF WE PROVOKE THE ESSAL WE GO TO WAR
IF WE PROVOKE THE ESSAL WE GO TO WAR
>IF WE PROVOKE THE ESSAL WE GO TO WAR

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:9iqwhba0 Sat 10 Dec 2022 03:15:56 No.5491544 Report

Quoted By: >>5491548

>>5491540
>>Torture them and beam the footage along with the emergency signal to send a message

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Sat 10 Dec 2022 03:19:28 No.5491548 Report

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>>5491544
oh yeah good let's start a war with [checks notes] the absolutely ZERO military development we've done, very intelligent

Indonesian Gentleman

Indonesian Gentleman ID:HN74VGri Sat 10 Dec 2022 03:19:38 No.5491549 Report

Quoted By: >>5491551 >>5491753 >>5491762

>>5491542
That will just insult them, I feel.

>>5491540
>Toss him a knife, 1v1 knife fight him, beam the footage
We're Klingons larping as Vulcans, let's start acting that way.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Sat 10 Dec 2022 03:20:08 No.5491551 Report

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>>5491549
alright this is pretty based too I'll support it

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Sat 10 Dec 2022 03:42:48 No.5491572 Report

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>>5491086
I personally hope we have presented votes that can lead to the Hegemony embracing the Jedi* more.

We could either vote to have the Jedi overthrow Wrix, or for Wrix to willingly integrate the Jedi into the Hegemony's government or for Wrix to choose a jedi as a successor.

Probably several other pathways to that same outcome

*For lack of a better term I am calling the unnamed Starsighter Organization Jedi

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Sat 10 Dec 2022 03:44:24 No.5491574 Report

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>>5491298
+1

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Sat 10 Dec 2022 03:50:50 No.5491580 Report

Quoted By: >>5491592

>>5491540
>Send them back home on an escape pod as a show of good faith

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FZMQEgV3 Sat 10 Dec 2022 04:01:26 No.5491585 Report

Quoted By:

>>5491540
>Just kill them quick and be done with it

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Sat 10 Dec 2022 04:11:59 No.5491588 Report

Quoted By: >>5491592 >>5491604 >>5491610 >>5491622 >>5491727 >>5491832 >>5491904

>>5491540
>Jale Berax addresses the commanding officer, "You want to duel? If you win your men leave in your stealth cruiser. I win, your men still go home but the cruiser stays here and your people respect Jaxtian borders."

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Sat 10 Dec 2022 04:17:46 No.5491592 Report

Quoted By: >>5491742

>>5491580
Changing my vote here To
>>5491588
+1This so hard. I love this do it , do this do this yes yes yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Sat 10 Dec 2022 04:26:37 No.5491600 Report

Quoted By:

>>5491540
>CHALLENGE THE RED CUNT TO A DUEL
If that's not possible
>Just kill them quick and be done with it

I rather avoid doing evil for the sake of doing evil unless there's a pragmatic point. Sending them torture footage or sending them away doesn't really gel well with me.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Sat 10 Dec 2022 04:29:17 No.5491604 Report

Quoted By: >>5491742

>>5491588
>Support
Greenshirt might not have the authority to accept this deal, but it seems reasonable for Jale to offer it. Here he's in a position of power with plenty of time to fight a knife duel, not in a hectic run & gun situation to light up a worm before the Supreme's cruiser is caught by a battleship. Pragmatism before honor is not equivalent to without honor.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Sat 10 Dec 2022 04:31:43 No.5491607 Report

Quoted By:

And to make it fair, Jale needs to go bare chested. Fighting an unarmored opponent while fully armored isn't particularly honor-duelish. I'm assuming that Friend Threes assures us that we can't be spaced if we step out of the suit.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Sat 10 Dec 2022 04:34:30 No.5491609 Report

Quoted By:

On the other hand, knowledge is power, so have Threes remind us of the weak points in Esaal anatomy and methods of overcoming their natural toughness.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Sat 10 Dec 2022 04:34:40 No.5491610 Report

Quoted By: >>5491742

>>5491588
+1

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Sat 10 Dec 2022 04:37:36 No.5491614 Report

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These escape pods are FTL, yes? We aren't going to subject the prisoners to slow starvation by shooting an escape pod across inter-empire-distances? If we do send a video feed of a knife to sword fight, we might want to have Threes modify it a bit to trick the Essal so that they can't properly study it to come up with counter martial arts.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FZMQEgV3 Sat 10 Dec 2022 04:45:10 No.5491622 Report

Quoted By: >>5491651

>>5491588
This is retarded, we need that stealth cruiser and this random commander has no authority to make a duel binding.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Sat 10 Dec 2022 04:53:57 No.5491633 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Sat 10 Dec 2022 05:05:19 No.5491643 Report

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We need to go back to Klingons larping as Vulcans.

Honorable knife duel is the way.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Sat 10 Dec 2022 05:14:27 No.5491651 Report

Quoted By: >>5491714

>>5491622
Fuck you, knife duels are fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:0o+CryF1 Sat 10 Dec 2022 05:38:34 No.5491672 Report

Quoted By:

>>5491540
>>Torture them and beam the footage along with the emergency signal to send a message

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oUEPN2QT Sat 10 Dec 2022 05:55:44 No.5491684 Report

Quoted By: >>5491742

>>5491540
>>Jale Berax addresses the commanding officer, "You want to duel? If you win your men leave in your stealth cruiser. I win, your men still go home but the cruiser stays here and your people respect Jaxtian borders

Old ways best ways today.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Sat 10 Dec 2022 06:43:05 No.5491714 Report

Quoted By:

>>5491651
Then don't make the stakes retarded and unenforceable

>>5491540
>Just kill them quick and be done with it

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:x+cO5YY9 Sat 10 Dec 2022 07:04:42 No.5491727 Report

Quoted By: >>5491742

>>5491588
Supporting

Respect the old ways

Make sure we film the fight and tight beam the result to them if we win + let the survivors go in an escape pod

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5zNvAHWx Sat 10 Dec 2022 07:30:50 No.5491736 Report

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>>5491540
>Send them back home on an escape pod as a show of good faith

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Sat 10 Dec 2022 07:40:49 No.5491742 Report

Quoted By: >>5491747 >>5491753

>>5491727
>>5491684
>>5491610
>>5491604
>>5491592
How the heck are you all expecting this random nobody officer to enforce political demands on the scale of "no more incursions on a foreign border"? This is completely nonsense and a lose-lose scenario. Either we lose the cruiser for no reason whatsoever, or we win the duel and get nothing out of it other than, if we beam the duel to them, letting the Esaal know ahead of time that we got their outpost, accelerating any response by a few years.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Sat 10 Dec 2022 07:43:02 No.5491745 Report

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>>5491540
>Send them back home on an escape pod as a show of good faith
Let's actualy larp as Vulcans.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:PFPHiqWW Sat 10 Dec 2022 07:44:44 No.5491747 Report

Quoted By: >>5491958

>>5491742
Counterpoint:

Knife duels are cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Zbp5aNTF Sat 10 Dec 2022 07:47:58 No.5491753 Report

Quoted By: >>5491958

>>5490821
this

>>5491540
>apologize about that incident, say it was thought to be a trick
>Send them back home on an escape pod as a show of good faith

>>5491549
they'll just think its rigged/faked

>>5491742
they will already know, reread update

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Sat 10 Dec 2022 08:30:40 No.5491762 Report

Quoted By:

>>5491549
Supporting this.

>Toss him a knife, 1v1 knife fight him, transmit the footage with base machinery.

The last time, we were cornered and needed every edge to secure our survival. This time, we have the undeniable upper hand. Let's use it to give this Commander an honourable exit.

>Send the rest back home on an escape pod as a show of good faith.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+DnQ83vY Sat 10 Dec 2022 08:45:59 No.5491764 Report

Quoted By: >>5491818

>>5491540
>Torture them and beam the footage along with the emergency signal to send a message
Let's actually be evil instead of a secret third thing between bad and moralists.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Btbi1pxZ Sat 10 Dec 2022 09:40:15 No.5491811 Report

Quoted By: >>5491814

>>5491540
>Torture them for information and kill once they're of no use
If we send the footage, it's war declaration. If we send them back, some of our secrets will be known. This seems to be the best solution

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Sat 10 Dec 2022 09:43:05 No.5491814 Report

Quoted By:

>>5491811
READ THE UPDATE. They're getting a warning sent to them automatically. The cat is out of the bag. This vote is about damage control.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oUEPN2QT Sat 10 Dec 2022 09:50:53 No.5491818 Report

Quoted By:

>>5491764
There’s evil, and then there’s suicide by Battleships performing pest control.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Sat 10 Dec 2022 10:10:20 No.5491832 Report

Quoted By:

>>5491588
+1

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:cMNeKB3x Sat 10 Dec 2022 11:35:16 No.5491865 Report

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>Duel him, but not the retarded offer of giving the stealth cruiser
Are you fucking kidding me? This is a *stealth cruiser*

Do you have any idea how greatly we could use this against the esaal? We could completely fuck their FTL by blowing up their worm beacons.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 10 Dec 2022 12:39:27 No.5491904 Report

Quoted By:

>>5491540
I’ll support any option that isn’t >>5491588, because the premise is retarded. No, we are not giving up the Stealth Ship and getting Jale purged ffs, and no, the commanding officer would have no real power to ‘respect our borders’. I swear, this is the ‘giving back the Life Machine’ bullshit that drives me up a fucking wall.

I’m fine with torture. I’m fine with letting them go. I’m even fine with trying to recreate the honor duel thing anons passed up beforehand (so long as Jale doesn’t die, or take off his armor). I am not fine with giving up a tech advantage over something so retarded as a wager we gain literally nothing from even if we do win.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:yr3FZvnc Sat 10 Dec 2022 13:50:09 No.5491953 Report

Quoted By:

>>5490994
Autistic and proud.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Sat 10 Dec 2022 13:57:54 No.5491958 Report

Quoted By:

>>5491747
Then at least set it up so that we get something out of it at all

>>5491753
I know, but why give them a head start in responding? What point is there at all to this duel?

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Sat 10 Dec 2022 15:54:24 No.5492031 Report

Quoted By: >>5492038 >>5492047

What do we gain from a duel? Honor. Possibly political clout. Things less tangible than a stealth cruiser, but also possibly more valuable. I don't expect this random greenshirt to have the ability to actually make a binding deal, but even if he can't, we learn something about the Essal society by the answer, and we gain honor simply through the offer.

Separate point: I like Banana's knife fight art.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:cMNeKB3x Sat 10 Dec 2022 16:13:28 No.5492038 Report

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>>5492031
That's why the 'deal' of letting them have the cruiser is absolutely ufcking retarded

Knife dueling him does give us a way to possibly hold off on the war, however, since they might call it quits for now.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Sat 10 Dec 2022 16:25:37 No.5492047 Report

Quoted By:

>>5492031
Nothing wrong with duelling the guy, but the prize for that should be his life and nothing more. The stealth cruiser is ours to retro-engineer, and the rest of the Esaal crew should get an escape-pod escape back to their space - all that changes is if the Commander is with them.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 10 Dec 2022 17:12:11 No.5492108 Report

Quoted By:

If we had the Blue Hazzar I’d say turn them all into broodmares and pump out another dedicated soldier class desu. We don’t, so the point is really mute.

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sat 10 Dec 2022 17:26:08 No.5492126 Report

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It's true. The Commander is trying to get you to put out your anger on him; to protect his men from a worse fate. The Esaal here, as the ones who fought on the warp-beacon, all fought with incredible courage even against a stronger opponent. He gives you a sharp glare. Still defiant even now.

"Who commanded you to make this base and supply the bombing run? Who told you to spy on us?"
"Nobody. Flight Commanders and their Stealth-Ships act with impunity."
"Hmm. It's interesting. You and I are not so different. We will never be the great men- the great leaders of our people. But we still have a certain amount of freedom allotted to us by our autocrats- because our skills and status as warriors are respected regardless of culture. Cut him loose and give him a knife."
"Huh? What are you playing at?!"
"You and I are going to fight. No matter what happens here- you lost and we won. This base and the stealth cruiser are ours. But I'll give you a chance to regain some of our honor in face of that failure. Your men will be sent back to the nearest Esaal colony aboard an automatic shuttle. If you kill me, I'll let you go with them."
"How can I trust that you'll keep your word? Your men and robots could just shoot me the moment I get the upper hand."
"Then that's a risk you'll have to take. You have no other choice- you either fight me like a soldier or you die like a civilian."

Using what you know about the Esaal- you figured that would get a rise out of him. Oh yeah, you got him now.

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sat 10 Dec 2022 17:29:28 No.5492130 Report

He is released and given a basic knife- the Esaal's weapon of choice is the sword, but a combat knife is still something they would know how to use. You take off your armor to make it more fair- and you get a good look at his body. Indeed, the Esaal are strong, just in a different way to Jaxtians. His body is more compact, thicker set. Two sets of pectorals- allowing for a greater range of acceptable motion near the chest- and that head and neck are as thick as a Vetucker... But you are bigger, stronger, and faster too. It is time to prove the physical superiority of the Jaxtian species once and for all.

"You aren't quite as freakishly large as some of your men."
"Ahh, the young breed is built different. Your grenadiers will have a tough time dueling them."
"None of them will ever duel a grenadier."
"Oh? Why is that?"
"A Grenadier wouldn't have surrendered."
”...”

You make sure to motion to your tech-commando to get the drones ready to record this. It's funny, you're so used to being on camera, it doesn't even phase you.

RULES
Roll d50 for whichever fighter you want to win. You can roll by typing "dice+1d50" in the options field. The highest two rolls for each character will be combined and used as their total. Whichever total is higher will win the duel.
>Jale Berax
>Commander

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Sat 10 Dec 2022 17:31:53 No.5492132 Report

Quoted By:

Rolled 12 (1d50)

>>5492130
>Jale Berax

>Giving the Hostile Anons an opportunity to actively sabotage the quest

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Sat 10 Dec 2022 17:32:04 No.5492133 Report

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Rolled 34 (1d50)

>>5492130
>Jale Berax

FOR HONOR!

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:C+28kb2C Sat 10 Dec 2022 17:33:47 No.5492135 Report

Quoted By:

Rolled 23 (1d50)

>>5492130
>Jale Berax

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sat 10 Dec 2022 17:36:41 No.5492140 Report

Quoted By:

Rolled 39 (1d50)

>>5492130
>Jale Berax
Our guy Jale has to win and he has to win convincingly.
I can't stay away dammit

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Sat 10 Dec 2022 17:39:10 No.5492143 Report

Quoted By:

Rolled 30 (1d50)

>>5492130
>Jale Berax

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 10 Dec 2022 17:40:06 No.5492145 Report

Quoted By:

Rolled 29 (1d50)

>>5492130
>Jale Berax
Yea, I ain’t sabotaging my boy Jale.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:cMNeKB3x Sat 10 Dec 2022 17:40:32 No.5492146 Report

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Rolled 25 (1d50)

>>5492130
>Jale Berax
Ah, now this is good stuff. Knife duels.

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sat 10 Dec 2022 17:44:59 No.5492150 Report

Quoted By: >>5492152 >>5492154 >>5492239 >>5492560

>inb4 a 49 and 50 roll for Commander on the only two votes he's going to get

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 10 Dec 2022 17:46:03 No.5492152 Report

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>>5492150
Oh, you know it

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Sat 10 Dec 2022 17:48:33 No.5492154 Report

Quoted By: >>5492157

>>5492150
Well, on the upside, Jale would get his warrior's death.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 10 Dec 2022 17:50:38 No.5492157 Report

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>>5492154
>’upside’
Nah man, I want him to live and have an even bigger family man.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Sat 10 Dec 2022 18:05:13 No.5492173 Report

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Rolled 33 (1d50)

>>5492130
>Jale Berax
Screw xenos.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FZMQEgV3 Sat 10 Dec 2022 18:06:20 No.5492175 Report

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Rolled 32 (1d50)

>>5492130
>>Commander

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Sat 10 Dec 2022 18:16:12 No.5492182 Report

Quoted By:

Rolled 19 (1d50)

>>5492130
>Jale Berax

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Buc70O7K Sat 10 Dec 2022 18:21:32 No.5492187 Report

Quoted By:

Rolled 10 (1d50)

>>5492130
>Jale Berax

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:a/pphQd0 Sat 10 Dec 2022 18:40:18 No.5492203 Report

Quoted By: >>5492281

>Commander

Someone has to make an opposing vote

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:a/pphQd0 Sat 10 Dec 2022 18:44:20 No.5492206 Report

Quoted By: >>5492281

Rolled 16 (1d50)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:cMNeKB3x Sat 10 Dec 2022 18:46:06 No.5492207 Report

Quoted By:

Good, now we can win

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Zbp5aNTF Sat 10 Dec 2022 18:52:35 No.5492219 Report

Quoted By:

Rolled 24 (1d50)

>>5492130
>>Jale Berax

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:BhTzbXnl Sat 10 Dec 2022 18:53:07 No.5492221 Report

Quoted By: >>5492239 >>5492273 >>5492281 >>5492349

Rolled 49 (1d50)

>>5492130
commander

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:cMNeKB3x Sat 10 Dec 2022 19:00:00 No.5492230 Report

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And here comes the 1 ID post...yeah, great idea there...

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Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Sat 10 Dec 2022 19:04:36 No.5492239 Report

Quoted By: >>5492244 >>5492273

>>5492221
>>5492150
Just wow. Lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:cMNeKB3x Sat 10 Dec 2022 19:08:01 No.5492244 Report

Quoted By: >>5492273

>>5492239
Obvious script is obvious
>1 ID post with a single word that just so happens to get the ideal roll? Nothing to see here, totally natural event

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Y1UTsiJY Sat 10 Dec 2022 19:28:36 No.5492257 Report

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Rolled 28 (1d50)

>Jale Berax

INB4 1PBTI :
Just caught up

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Sat 10 Dec 2022 19:30:44 No.5492259 Report

Quoted By:

Rolled 11 (1d50)

>>5492130
>Jale Berax

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Sat 10 Dec 2022 19:45:09 No.5492273 Report

Quoted By: >>5492281 >>5492320

>>5492221
>>5492244
>>5492239
>39+33 = 73(Jale current total)
>73-49 = 24
The odd are stacked slightly against us but it's more or less even, somebody has to roll once for the commander and roll under 24. The salt from this will make Carthage look like family dinner, won't it?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Sat 10 Dec 2022 19:47:19 No.5492281 Report

Quoted By:

>>5492273
two people already rolled for the commander

>>5492221
>>5492206
>>5492203

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:yr3FZvnc Sat 10 Dec 2022 19:53:10 No.5492290 Report

Quoted By: >>5492312

Don't stress people. No matter which way the fight goes the winners and losers fought with honor. That's the whole point of the duel. If it was just about killing the other guy we would have executed them.

In the interest of that, I am allowed to make two rolls one for each?

>>5492130

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Sat 10 Dec 2022 19:59:13 No.5492295 Report

Quoted By:

Rolled 23 (1d50)

>>5492130
>Jale Berax

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:cMNeKB3x Sat 10 Dec 2022 20:19:30 No.5492312 Report

Quoted By: >>5492324

>>5492290
I most certainly will not be pleased if Jale gets killed by some dinky-ass captain just because some retard 'miraculously' acquired the best roll

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Sat 10 Dec 2022 20:21:03 No.5492317 Report

Quoted By: >>5492320

Rolled 46 (1d50)

>>5492130
>Jale Berax
lee oh lee.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Sat 10 Dec 2022 20:22:37 No.5492320 Report

Quoted By: >>5492334

>>5492273
Commander has 32+49 = 81. We need to roll a 42+ for Jale.

>>5492317
Look at that.

STOP ROLLING GUYS

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Sat 10 Dec 2022 20:24:25 No.5492324 Report

Quoted By: >>5492332

>>5492312
Come off yourself. The "best roll" would be a 50. Sometimes people just get lucky. Do you seriously think somebody developed a bot that can roll the number of their choosing and didn't 1) release it to the public and 2) spam critfails in every single other quest?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:cMNeKB3x Sat 10 Dec 2022 20:27:42 No.5492332 Report

Quoted By: >>5492334

>>5492324
There are already scripts to get high digits
>spam critfails in every single other quest?
That would become really, really obvious.

This is a quest where people have already said they'd be actively voting to make things worse. It's a very, very big, particular coincidence, and i don't believe in those.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Sat 10 Dec 2022 20:30:18 No.5492334 Report

Quoted By: >>5492587

>>5492320
>STOP ROLLING GUYS
Or more accurately
>Keep rolling for Jale if you want who cares
>Roll for the Commander if you want to accept the risk that you, specifically, might lose the duel for him

>>5492332
>It's a very, very big, particular coincidence, and i don't believe in those.
Your life must be extremely difficult and confusing.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:CO4yr6bZ Sat 10 Dec 2022 20:41:24 No.5492348 Report

Quoted By:

Rolled 45 (1d50)

>>5492130
>Jale Berax
Xenoscum mogged honorabry

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:CO4yr6bZ Sat 10 Dec 2022 20:43:55 No.5492349 Report

Quoted By:

>>5492221
THREEMIND DELETE THIS ASAP

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4HFb14OX Sat 10 Dec 2022 22:19:05 No.5492447 Report

Quoted By: >>5492492

>>5492130
>tech-commando

I’m glad we have one of these.
>Jale Berax

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Sat 10 Dec 2022 22:19:06 No.5492448 Report

Quoted By:

THIS IIS HOOOW
IT HAAAS TO BEEE

This is gonna be some duel!

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:yr3FZvnc Sat 10 Dec 2022 22:26:49 No.5492460 Report

Quoted By:

Rolled 42 (1d50)

>Commander

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:yr3FZvnc Sat 10 Dec 2022 22:27:55 No.5492463 Report

Quoted By: >>5492468

>It's a tie

Mutual death. Have we achieved honorkino?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Sat 10 Dec 2022 22:30:22 No.5492468 Report

Quoted By: >>5492470 >>5492471 >>5492478

>>5492463
>Jale: 45 + 46 = 91
>Commander: 49 + 42 = 91
Hahahahahahaha. Okay, now seriously nobody else roll, we've unlocked the SOUL ending.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:9iqwhba0 Sat 10 Dec 2022 22:30:23 No.5492469 Report

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Rolled 19 (1d50)

>>5492130
Jale Berak

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:9iqwhba0 Sat 10 Dec 2022 22:31:23 No.5492470 Report

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>>5492468
For once, I support.
NO MORE ROLLS

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:yr3FZvnc Sat 10 Dec 2022 22:31:55 No.5492471 Report

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>>5492468
The ballads of this epic duel will be song across the stars of both cultures for all eternity.

Who knows,maybe this can be the bridge the a whole World Cup style traditional of international knife fighting as a honorable bloodsport.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Sat 10 Dec 2022 22:40:26 No.5492478 Report

Quoted By: >>5492482 >>5492491

>>5492468
Yeah. This just got as good as it CAN get!

An impressive fight that ends in dual nonlethal incapacitation, maybe?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:yr3FZvnc Sat 10 Dec 2022 22:42:08 No.5492482 Report

Quoted By: >>5492491

>>5492478
Yeah I think both living or both dying works.

I personally hope for both living so they can spread the word of the other sides honor to their masters.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sat 10 Dec 2022 22:51:43 No.5492491 Report

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>>5492478
>>5492482
A draw that leaves both of them alive would be the ideal outcome, which is why I'm expecting that they'll both die and fan the flames of hate between our people.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Sat 10 Dec 2022 22:52:09 No.5492492 Report

Quoted By: >>5492552

>about four people rolled for commander
>everyone else rolled for Jale
>it's a tie
classic

>>5492447
you didn't roll btw

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:VNhc1lyU Sat 10 Dec 2022 22:54:17 No.5492493 Report

Quoted By: >>5492496 >>5492562

A draw would be basically a victory for the esaal, though.

Our best soldier ever, literally biologically perfect, and with centuries of experience, unable to beat some random low ranking rogue captain in a duel. That's hardly "honorable" or "good", that's stacking every single advantage and still not being able to win.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:t7qZmNWr Sat 10 Dec 2022 22:56:03 No.5492494 Report

Quoted By: >>5492502

Rolled 48 (1d50)

>>5492130
>Jale Berax

50 inc

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Sat 10 Dec 2022 22:56:18 No.5492496 Report

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>>5492493
Yeah I'm kinda confused why it came down to a straight roll vs roll here, no bonuses at all for Jale despite being more familiar with the weapon, being stronger and faster, being more experienced, and having a rejuvenated body from the life machine.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Sat 10 Dec 2022 23:00:58 No.5492502 Report

Quoted By: >>5492506

>>5492494
You son of a bitch. You stole our KINO.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:VNhc1lyU Sat 10 Dec 2022 23:04:40 No.5492506 Report

Quoted By: >>5492558 >>5492562

>>5492502
It would not be kino

Jale would be basically jobbing. And no one likes a jobber. Again, this guy is some random captain, not even an high ranking soldier.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:AvpdzYrx Sun 11 Dec 2022 00:15:40 No.5492552 Report

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>>5492492
The gods have spoken.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:AvpdzYrx Sun 11 Dec 2022 00:16:50 No.5492554 Report

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Rolled 6 (1d50)

>Commander
Rolling to reclaim kino

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:AvpdzYrx Sun 11 Dec 2022 00:18:23 No.5492558 Report

Quoted By: >>5492561

>>5492506
It would have been awesome, Jale after all his adventure and statboost humbled by tying in honorable combat with a soldier who was just a grunt as he was.

On some Seto Kaiba shit but Jale is more of a bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sun 11 Dec 2022 00:20:21 No.5492560 Report

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>>5492150
Bananas, call this shit before anons kill Jale again over retarded reasons.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:cMNeKB3x Sun 11 Dec 2022 00:21:33 No.5492561 Report

Quoted By: >>5492564

>>5492558
That just sounds like jobbing

The best of the jaxtians not able to defeat some random ass low tier esaal? That's pathetic. This would be the most pathetic way for Jale to die.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sun 11 Dec 2022 00:21:59 No.5492562 Report

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>>5492493
>>5492506
This

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sun 11 Dec 2022 00:23:50 No.5492564 Report

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>>5492561
And this as well

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:amPHOdBv Sun 11 Dec 2022 00:24:43 No.5492565 Report

Quoted By: >>5492566

What a roller-coaster of a vote.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:amPHOdBv Sun 11 Dec 2022 00:25:44 No.5492566 Report

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>>5492565
Oh my vote sorry.
>Commander

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:amPHOdBv Sun 11 Dec 2022 00:26:53 No.5492568 Report

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Rolled 24 (1d50)

I did it wring I think, sorry

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:AvpdzYrx Sun 11 Dec 2022 00:39:55 No.5492585 Report

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The dream is dead.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sun 11 Dec 2022 00:42:13 No.5492587 Report

Quoted By: >>5492589

>>5492334
Who else honestly picks a random Esaal over Doomonke? This shit stinks, and I’m not just talking about how retarded the original write in was.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Sun 11 Dec 2022 00:43:23 No.5492589 Report

Quoted By: >>5492605

>>5492587
Because somebody has to roll for the Commander? That's the way this is structured?

Like I said, your life must be extremely difficult and confusing.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sun 11 Dec 2022 00:58:33 No.5492605 Report

Quoted By: >>5492608 >>5492616

>>5492589
For some anons to actively salivate at the death of Jale, you mean. Using excuses like ‘it’s structured like this’ and ‘somebody has to roll for him’ is just muddying the waters for the hostile anons actively trying to have the Hegemony capitulate to the Esaal.

Also, I’m a different anon.

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Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Sun 11 Dec 2022 01:03:38 No.5492607 Report

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The structure of the fight to allow both fate and the votes of the plebiscite to play a part. Interesting anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Sun 11 Dec 2022 01:04:29 No.5492608 Report

Quoted By: >>5492615

>>5492605
>the hostile anons actively trying to have the Hegemony capitulate to the Esaal.
sauce please

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sun 11 Dec 2022 01:29:12 No.5492615 Report

Quoted By: >>5492621

>>5492608
>>5470825
>It just so happens that, with this current scenario, what I fine 'interesting' is now re-enacting Downfall with Space-Monkey-Hitler as the Essal-Consortium fleet moves on us and the Seekers hang us out to dry for being cruel and untrustworthy. What I find interesting now is the idea of running a Consortium government of occupation on occupied Jaxt, or perhaps the activities of a cell of Jaxtian freedom-fighters upon the same.

>>5472146
>I'll be blunt enough to say that yes, I'm upset with the game itself and by extension you. If we continue forward I'm going to stay and vote for the most retarded option, just like the majority of anons are already doing, but I'm going to be doing it on purpose and be vocal about it because I'm now actively rooting for this Hegemony to lose.

And that’s not including some of the more saltier anons railing against all the ruined plot threads.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:97Pb3GFQ Sun 11 Dec 2022 01:30:06 No.5492616 Report

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>>5492605
Because I want a duel not just wanking the MC.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:97Pb3GFQ Sun 11 Dec 2022 01:31:03 No.5492618 Report

Quoted By:

Rolled 13 (1d50)

>Commander

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:cMNeKB3x Sun 11 Dec 2022 01:33:24 No.5492620 Report

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Another 1PBTID post rolling for commander, very natural.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:97Pb3GFQ Sun 11 Dec 2022 01:35:06 No.5492621 Report

Quoted By: >>5492639

>>5492615
>it just so happens that, with this current scenario, what I fine 'interesting' is now re-enacting Downfall with Space-Monkey-Hitler as the Essal-Consortium fleet moves on us and the Seekers hang us out to dry for being cruel and untrustworthy. What I find interesting now is the idea of running a Consortium government of occupation on occupied Jaxt, or perhaps the activities of a cell of Jaxtian freedom-fighters upon the same.

Both of those sound fun. I think people need to take a step back and realize the "object" of this game isn't to have the Hegemony (or the current leadership thereof) "win". It's more like a choose your own adventure story where we can see various paths. BQM hasn't illustrated the concept of a "game over", so I never got the hard line stance that the Hegemony had to function as it does for the whole quest, or that we had to always play as the Hegemony, or that we couldn't play as any other Jataxian groups .

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:97Pb3GFQ Sun 11 Dec 2022 01:35:47 No.5492622 Report

Quoted By: >>5492639

Also the idea that Jale losing or tying in this duel is the same as "sabotage" or "the downfall of the Hegemony" is hyperbolic.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:97Pb3GFQ Sun 11 Dec 2022 01:39:41 No.5492625 Report

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>>5476359
>>5477536
>>5480201
>>5483281
These are all me. Dynamic IPs exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sun 11 Dec 2022 01:54:38 No.5492639 Report

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>>5492621
I remember Bananas stating that NecronMonkes had a high risk of ending in failure, and I assumed he meant literal Game Over since the other vote would’ve been Huzzar Replacement.

>>5492622
When you consider the original write in was ‘Duel me to keep your Stealth Ship’ and the salt generated from last thread, it becomes less hyperbolic and more an identification of a pattern. And this is coming from an anon who originally voted to Duel the Esaal during the Reconquesta.

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sun 11 Dec 2022 02:52:12 No.5492671 Report

Quoted By: >>5493619

Knives flash as the duel begins. The two men, both trained in CQC, are capable of themselves; though with different biology and temperament behind the blade.

From Jale comes the the wisdom of experience, the coolness of practiced killing, and the spirit of Jaxtian Supremacy. Behind the commander- rage of the defeated and the Esaal stubbornness.

Multiple times your blade finds itself true; but you find actually getting to a vital point in the opponent's flesh difficult. Cutting into the Esaal's skin is like cutting rubber cement. Jaxtian knives are made with high quality carbonized steel- with spring metal for flexibility, laser-cut edging for sharpness, and carbon-nanotube cores to make them nigh unbreakable. Standard issue for elite Deathcommandos. And yet despite this still it is hard to reach a vital artery or organ from how heavy set the Esaal are. He's slow but in a moment of exhaustion, he manages to cut you deep across the face; a battle scar.

There is some worry that you may be showing off too much of Jaxtian fighting techniques by broadcasting this live- but the Threemind knows better. You are just a solider- the fancy techniques of the Supreme Candidates are not made by this. Your techniques are made by decades of experience, made for practical use, by a soldier...

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sun 11 Dec 2022 02:56:47 No.5492673 Report

Quoted By: >>5492678 >>5493619

In the end, those techniques win out.

You've managed to defeat the Commander. It's no true surprise, you are the superior species, biologically augmented, and trained with many more years of experience then your age would allow. You could see the surprise in the commanders eye when you moved with such a youthful grace despite your apparent mastery of battle.

"I will wear this scar with pride."

You keep to your word. The other Esaal are loaded into a life pod and shot back to the nearest base- dishonored but still alive. After all, it was their Commander's fault they were captured in the first place.

This action, along with the duel itself, soon make their way through the Esaal Stratocracy. Several points towards respect for the Hegemony have been won in their eyes; and when word comes of the one who performed the duel, giving one of their own defeated and captured men a chance to prove himself and die in battle instead of as a captive- it makes some waves. The figure of Jale Berax becomes a bit of a legend among even the highest figures in the Esaal's government and culture. In the following few years, no further encroachment towards the Hegemony is performed by the Esaal. Perhaps they have learned a lesson- or gained a certain level of mutual respect...

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sun 11 Dec 2022 03:07:19 No.5492677 Report

Quoted By: >>5492685 >>5492686 >>5492692 >>5492721 >>5492727 >>5492822 >>5492896 >>5492962 >>5492969 >>5492974 >>5492984 >>5492991 >>5493020 >>5493041 >>5493073 >>5493188 >>5493306 >>5493513

You are back to being Wrix Val, at least for this moment in time.

You are told by your Overseer, Mann Yumm, that the city project is well underway. Driven by a need to please you, and by good optimizations wrought by the Threemind, it turns out there is a small amount of Azurium surplus.

"It's not enough to begin arming our fleet with them, your Majesty. This amount of Auzirum would only weaken the main hull alloys if put in such a low concentration. But there is enough for a secondary project-"
"A vanity project?"
"Exactly! I wouldn't dare decide how to use it, especially since you were so generous giving it to my plan. Please use it however you wish."

Azuirum is a very powerful and strong metal; and could be used for many purposes. While most of the Azurium for the city project is unused still; it has been assigned to the project. So in the meantime, you must find a use for the rest of it. It probably won't effect the whole empire in a major way, so what is your choice?

>Azurium dueling knives for the Elites
>Comission an Azurium drill for mining Vetuck IV; an untapped mystery planet
>Order the construction of a super powerful dogfighter with Azurium plated armor

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:GvGQXX9E Sun 11 Dec 2022 03:08:46 No.5492678 Report

Quoted By: >>5492686 >>5492692 >>5493513

>>5492673
>This action, along with the duel itself, soon make their way through the Esaal Stratocracy. Several points towards respect for the Hegemony have been won in their eyes; and when word comes of the one who performed the duel, giving one of their own defeated and captured men a chance to prove himself and die in battle instead of as a captive- it makes some waves. The figure of Jale Berax becomes a bit of a legend among even the highest figures in the Esaal's government and culture. In the following few years, no further encroachment towards the Hegemony is performed by the Esaal. Perhaps they have learned a lesson- or gained a certain level of mutual respect...

Told you.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Sun 11 Dec 2022 03:14:50 No.5492685 Report

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>>5492677
>>Comission an Azurium drill for mining Vetuck IV; an untapped mystery planet
MYSTERY BOX

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sun 11 Dec 2022 03:14:59 No.5492686 Report

Quoted By: >>5492689 >>5492819

>>5492677
>Comission an Azurium drill for mining Vetuck IV; an untapped mystery planet
>Give Jale a Azurium knife
Mystery box, but I can settle for the knifes desu, considering the Esaal are too tough for normal knives.

>>5492678
Anon, I wanted the Reconquesta Honor Duel.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Sun 11 Dec 2022 03:15:35 No.5492689 Report

Quoted By:

>>5492686
+1 to also giving Jale a knife

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Sun 11 Dec 2022 03:17:26 No.5492692 Report

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>>5492677
>Azurium dueling knives for the Elites

Very nice. Jale gets a duelling scar and we get respect.

>>5492678
Feels so good.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:vnEz/PHq Sun 11 Dec 2022 03:43:12 No.5492721 Report

Quoted By:

>>5492677
>Order the construction of a super powerful dogfighter with Azurium plated armor

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+DnQ83vY Sun 11 Dec 2022 03:45:36 No.5492727 Report

Quoted By:

>>5492677
>>Comission an Azurium drill for mining Vetuck IV; an untapped mystery planet
>>Give Jale a Azurium knife

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Sun 11 Dec 2022 04:29:17 No.5492819 Report

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>>5492686
Wow, after this... I'm thinking Jale probably would have lost against a sword. The Essal are no joke in a duel.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Sun 11 Dec 2022 04:32:26 No.5492822 Report

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>>5492677
>Commission an Azurium drill for mining Vetuck IV; an untapped mystery planet
>If we can afford it (I see why not, a single blade is barely anything metal wise), give Jale an Azurium blade.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sun 11 Dec 2022 05:34:22 No.5492896 Report

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>>5492677
>ONE Azurium dueling knife for Jale
>Comission an Azurium drill for mining Vetuck IV; an untapped mystery planet

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Y1UTsiJY Sun 11 Dec 2022 06:25:48 No.5492962 Report

Quoted By:

>>5492677
>One Azurium dueling knives for Jale
>Comission an Azurium drill for mining Vetuck IV; an untapped mystery planet

Jale will told us next duel if Azurium knife make a big difference to stab pomegranate people

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Sun 11 Dec 2022 06:41:59 No.5492969 Report

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Rolled 16 (1d50)

>>5492677
>Comission an Azurium drill for mining Vetuck IV; an untapped mystery planet

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:uaIw7w0f Sun 11 Dec 2022 06:52:46 No.5492974 Report

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>>5492677
>ONE Azurium dueling knife for Jale
>Comission an Azurium drill for mining Vetuck IV; an untapped mystery planet

There wouldn’t be much point in honourable combat if victory was assured.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Sun 11 Dec 2022 07:19:12 No.5492984 Report

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>>5492677
>Comission an Azurium drill for mining Vetuck IV; an untapped mystery planet
>Plus if we can spin a single Azurium Knife for Jale, that'd be cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FZMQEgV3 Sun 11 Dec 2022 07:26:10 No.5492991 Report

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>>5492677
Comission an Azurium drill for mining Vetuck IV; an untapped mystery planet

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:B7jzcpCm Sun 11 Dec 2022 08:05:46 No.5493020 Report

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>>5492677
>>Order the construction of a super powerful dogfighter with Azurium plated armor

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:A8rNmgw8 Sun 11 Dec 2022 08:44:25 No.5493041 Report

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>>5492677
>Comission an Azurium drill for mining Vetuck IV; an untapped mystery planet

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:CwdfZ8NO Sun 11 Dec 2022 10:27:49 No.5493068 Report

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>One Azurium dueling knives for Jale
>Comission an Azurium drill for mining Vetuck IV; an untapped mystery planet
It better not be filled with bugs, Akule genocided all the short tiny jaxtians.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QEaU/PbK Sun 11 Dec 2022 10:35:32 No.5493073 Report

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>>5492677
>One Azurium dueling knives for Jale
>Comission an Azurium drill for mining Vetuck IV; an untapped mystery planet

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Buc70O7K Sun 11 Dec 2022 15:24:29 No.5493188 Report

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>>5492677
>>Comission an Azurium drill for mining Vetuck IV; an untapped mystery planet

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sun 11 Dec 2022 17:20:03 No.5493274 Report

Quoted By: >>5493283 >>5493302 >>5493306 >>5493394

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:CwdfZ8NO Sun 11 Dec 2022 17:33:27 No.5493283 Report

Quoted By:

>>5493274
Very sad, indeed, but what i want to know more is whether we've made some damn progress on starsight

That was his mentor's life work, right? Not even sure if dude is still alive, but i really do want to know about the starsight development.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FZMQEgV3 Sun 11 Dec 2022 17:53:30 No.5493302 Report

Quoted By: >>5493400

>>5493274
Poor Jale, literally a forever soldier.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Sun 11 Dec 2022 17:57:36 No.5493306 Report

Quoted By: >>5493313

>>5493274
I guess blue hair dye is a wasteful vanity of the bourgeois.

>>5492677
>Drill Baby Drill

Maybe some day we'll figure out how to make melee weapons for a more civilized age, but until our energy tech improves I guess we're shanking each other with sharp pieces of metal.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:CwdfZ8NO Sun 11 Dec 2022 18:05:59 No.5493313 Report

Quoted By: >>5493454

>>5493306
Pretty sure an energy weapon would be bad for a soldier since it would cauterize the wound, which means no bleedouts.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sun 11 Dec 2022 19:28:37 No.5493394 Report

Quoted By: >>5493396

>>5493274
We can divert some BAG to Radjo, right? Like, an exoplanet can produce enough to maintain a population of a couple hundred thousand, a handful of Life Machine charges isn’t that expensive in the grand scheme of things.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:CwdfZ8NO Sun 11 Dec 2022 19:31:45 No.5493396 Report

Quoted By: >>5493464

>>5493394
I don't think we have any charges, if we did we'd be using them on other stuff like, i don't know, making some uber-monkey successor for wrix.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5+7a5wen Sun 11 Dec 2022 19:38:45 No.5493400 Report

Quoted By: >>5493401

>>5493302
Can we let the guy retire? Take up knitting?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:CwdfZ8NO Sun 11 Dec 2022 19:40:44 No.5493401 Report

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>>5493400
I don't think he'd enjoy being retired for however much time he'll have with his extended lifespan

At least in the battlefield, he can keep going and either die a honorable death or at least have his comrades.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Sun 11 Dec 2022 21:07:58 No.5493454 Report

Quoted By: >>5493465 >>5493474

>>5493313
>Not if our enemies have anti-coagulant blood or otherwise don't bleed, like the Essal and the Worms.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sun 11 Dec 2022 21:23:25 No.5493464 Report

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>>5493396
It takes BAG, and we have more than enough for a charge to help Jale and Radjo out.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:CwdfZ8NO Sun 11 Dec 2022 21:25:14 No.5493465 Report

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>>5493454
That esaal captain is clearly bleeding though? There's a big purple splotch where he was stabbed.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Sun 11 Dec 2022 21:32:05 No.5493474 Report

Quoted By:

>>5493454
They bleed. The issue is actually hitting a vital spot that would put them down for good.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ac2tAmT/ Sun 11 Dec 2022 22:24:15 No.5493513 Report

Quoted By:

>>5492677
>Order the construction of a super powerful dogfighter with Azurium plated armor
>Order an Azurium knife for Jale
>>5492678
Based retard destroyer.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Sun 11 Dec 2022 23:39:35 No.5493578 Report

Quoted By: >>5493658

You are correct. I don't know why I thought that the Esaal coagulated. They are just thick, dense boys who know no fear.

Have we considered creating a spinal mounted azurium rail gun cruiser? Essentially a 'slugger' to the Esaal battleship. They were designed to destroy mass small foes. A giant block of super-hard metal cast at high speed through a spinal mount should counter that design.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ac2tAmT/ Mon 12 Dec 2022 00:10:56 No.5493619 Report

Quoted By:

>>5492671
>>5492673
I'd like to say I've been enjoying seeing Jale's unique POV as someone who has a lifetime of experience, but controls a bioengineered super body. Hopefully we get to see what Cijan's been up to as well.

Indonesian Gentleman

Indonesian Gentleman ID:HN74VGri Mon 12 Dec 2022 00:44:23 No.5493658 Report

Quoted By: >>5493689

>>5493578
>Azurium as the ammunition
Fuck man, it's friggin' rare, it's like using diamonds as shotgun pellets. Use the Azurium as railgun barrels instead, then you can jam a handful of actual diamonds in there to shoot at the enemy.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ac2tAmT/ Mon 12 Dec 2022 01:17:24 No.5493689 Report

Quoted By: >>5493766

>>5493658
Does Azurium have any other traits besides being tough as fuck, heavy as hell and as dense as the person you replied to?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:f9HJ8+Tb Mon 12 Dec 2022 02:41:20 No.5493766 Report

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>>5493689
I think it's also heavily affected by magnets.

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Mon 12 Dec 2022 03:06:01 No.5493795 Report

Quoted By: >>5495742

Yes, the excess Azurium can be used for this. There's always a little of the stuff laying around in case the Supreme Ruler needs something special- or a new scientific test that needs to be done without having to worry about availability. Considering Azurium's many nigh-supernatural properties- extreme durability, lightweight, flexibility, heat and corrosion resistance, ability to block signals through it, conductivity, and radiation resistance- it's always going to be valuable to keep around.

With enough to make a custom drill- you set some aside for a special comission. Just for Jale Berax. His little stunt with the Esaal may not have been your first choice- but it seemed to work out for the best, and given his long service- you think he's due for a reward. You know he'll like it.

You already know the reason Mann Yumm offered this excess Azurium to you- he's still not at the stage of construction where he needs it yet. So this is a freebie. The Azurium Drill is forged in magnetic smelter and is about to be shipped off- we can finally crack this mystery planet. In the meantime; every Azurium shipment received from now on will go to building the great city now- and remains precious. You're going to have a busy few years given the mega projects and science frenzy going on in the Hegemony right now...

Meanwhile, on Jaxt, a Class 3 Mansion sits unwillingly just before dusk. It's owner is one Maktana Nanonae II, is preparing for yet another journey far away from home. Being the head of science means constantly going away to investigate new phenomena- and now he is required to head to Swalli to catalog and study the last biomes of the planet before they are destroyed forever.

“Honey-” His wife says. “He did it today.”
”Wh-Wha? Really!!! Where is he! Let me see!”

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Mon 12 Dec 2022 03:07:02 No.5493798 Report

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Maktana is so very excited. It's only today that many years of research could finally pay off. Truthfully, despite the genocidal Supreme currently in power; none of this would be possible without Max-Mind. The nearby Baalathi colony and population was invaluable in your genetic research. Of course, it's unfortunate given the exacting and extremely difficult transplantation of the Baalathi genes into Jaxtian- it won't pass true to the next generation and had to basically be custom fit and injected for each stage of the young boy's fetal development. You're just glad his poor surrogate mother could handle it.

Going up to the nursery, Maktana's young son looks up to his father, beaming.

”Your mother said you did it- can you show me!? How?!”
“Okay Daddy. I put the weight up like dis, and then...”

Junior stands up the small, hollow iron tube weight on the table and extends his hand. With outstretched fingers, the weight suddenly just pushes over. No visible contact; a magnetic wave. Produced by the young one's biology. He looks to Maktana for approval, before being scooped up.

”Oh ho! You did!”
“Ahh! No tickles! Hehehee”
”Ahaha that's my little boy!~”
“Nuuuuuu!~ Mom helwp!”
”Sorry- that's out of her jurisdiction! My lovely little boy- my Maktana III!”

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Mon 12 Dec 2022 03:10:53 No.5493803 Report

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Meanwhile, over the next 5 Years, the Azurium drill manages to pierce the thick shell of Vetuck IV, revealing what some scientists had been expecting all along; BAG! Hidden underneath the planet's crust, the precious gas has been found.

”We did it boys! Gaseous gold!”

It seems the planet had a deep internal store of BAG somehow protected from the nearby star's radiation. Despite not being an exoplanet, this unusual planetary body had a large supply of BAG underneath its crust. Perhaps during the star's formation, the BAG absorbed so much radiation that it created a hollow sphere that trapped itself inside; acting as a blocker to prevent more of the BAG to materialize matter from the radiation.

But a new problem arises at the last minute. With the new BAG comes the potential for the life machine. You order an immediate shipping route set up- new BAG pressurized and purified for use in the life-changing miracle device... only for Maktana II to stop you.

”What do you mean the machine doesn't want to work?!”
”Please your grace... We did not know this would happen. It's like it needs inspiration.”
”Inspiration? You're starting to sound like my Son! Get Tetak here to “converse” with this stupid machine and make it do what I command!”
”Tetak is the one who told us this, my lord...”
”Gah! This was supposed to be our chance at immortality- and it doesn't want to work! It has to prepare for a hundred years between each charge?! This is absurd! I'll be dead by the next time it can turn on! This machine was supposed to give us our chance... Even you, if I'd invite you after your many failures to perform!”

Well that's just great. The Life Machine, life changing savior of your race, is apparently too artistic and spiritual to want to work on demand. That's the real reason the Hazaar weren't constantly using it- it wasn't forgotten, merely charging. Besides simply its power source, it seems the machine has some other, secondary cooldown relating to the creation and formation of new life as based on the power of presence. You don't understand it; but you know it means the life machine can't be used as a factory for immortality. Or supersoldiers. Or superfoods- or super anything!

The silver lining is, at the very least, a new supply of BAG has been unlocked. While you'll have all the fuel you'll need for the life machine now- the vast majority of the stuff now has no assigned purpose. What are you going to create with it?

>Antimatter Weapons
>Replicator Factories
>Nuclear Defense Platforms

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Buc70O7K Mon 12 Dec 2022 03:20:55 No.5493812 Report

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>>5493803
>>Nuclear Defense Platforms

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Mon 12 Dec 2022 03:24:31 No.5493816 Report

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>>5493803
>Antimatter Weapons
Sounds like a great way to negate any disadvantage we have for not having battleships

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Mon 12 Dec 2022 03:36:43 No.5493827 Report

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>>5493803
>Antimatter Weapons

The idea behind using an azurium slug is that it can overmatch the battleship armor. Expensive, but a potential way to deal with an oversized enemy. If it worked, we could scrap the armor from defeated enemy battleships to replace the ammo supplies. Who knows, maybe the slugs themselves would survive. It's magic metal after all. it's easier to throw an anvil through a brick wall than an egg.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Mon 12 Dec 2022 03:39:21 No.5493828 Report

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>>5493803
>>Antimatter Weapons
battleships schmattleships
also, based life machine

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:yr3FZvnc Mon 12 Dec 2022 04:31:03 No.5493871 Report

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>Replicator Factories
We can go full post scarcity.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:vnEz/PHq Mon 12 Dec 2022 05:06:54 No.5493892 Report

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>>5493803
>Antimatter Weapons
As much as I want the replicator, I feel like this would be more helpful in the near future.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:f9HJ8+Tb Mon 12 Dec 2022 05:09:33 No.5493894 Report

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>>5493803
>Antimatter Weapons
Much as I'm a believer in building up the economy even I know you need to invest in weapons tech eventually

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Mon 12 Dec 2022 05:11:51 No.5493896 Report

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>>5493803

>Antimatter Weapons

Also, can we try playing some music to the life machine that has been translated into light and low level radiation?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FZMQEgV3 Mon 12 Dec 2022 05:56:03 No.5493930 Report

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>>5493803
>Antimatter Weapons

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Mon 12 Dec 2022 06:11:53 No.5493945 Report

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>>5493803
>Antimatter Weapons
Nice battleship you got there Admiral, would be a shame if somebody converted its matter to pure energy.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Y1UTsiJY Mon 12 Dec 2022 07:04:10 No.5493988 Report

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>Antimatter Weapons

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Mon 12 Dec 2022 07:32:03 No.5494012 Report

Quoted By:

>>5493803
>Antimatter Weapons

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4ASnhUtU Mon 12 Dec 2022 07:35:27 No.5494014 Report

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>>5493803
>Replicator Factories

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:3p3LVqUX Mon 12 Dec 2022 10:22:50 No.5494119 Report

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>>5493803
>Antimatter Weapons
Finally

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Mon 12 Dec 2022 10:25:15 No.5494122 Report

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>>5493803
>Nuclear Defense Platforms

Can you expand upon Hwat’s Nuclear Defense btw? Why does it need BAG?

Also, this does mean that there ARE nukes around, and I don’t want to Deathmask it so close to the other one.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Mon 12 Dec 2022 15:23:38 No.5494285 Report

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>>5493803
>Antimatter Weapons
Our industry and science is pretty good so some weapons would be good.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+DnQ83vY Mon 12 Dec 2022 16:18:53 No.5494313 Report

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>>5493803
>Replicator Factories

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:EAchPO3w Mon 12 Dec 2022 16:21:28 No.5494316 Report

Quoted By:

>>5493803
>Replicator Factories

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:3p3LVqUX Mon 12 Dec 2022 16:24:03 No.5494318 Report

Quoted By: >>5494366 >>5494385

Having replicator factories will be useless when our enemies come knocking

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Mon 12 Dec 2022 17:37:48 No.5494366 Report

Quoted By: >>5494371

>>5494318
Actually, it’s free up tons of manpower and resources for the war effort. And if we wanted to be sly, we could use the economic advantage to take on the Consortium while the Esaal NAP holds.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:3p3LVqUX Mon 12 Dec 2022 17:41:32 No.5494371 Report

Quoted By: >>5494380 >>5494430

>>5494366
>war effort
You can't have a war effort without SOMETHING TO WAR WITH

You people just keep going 'muh industry, muh industry, muh industry', and not ONCE have we so much as bothered to actually fucking expend our naval forces. We haven't even *started* to develop a battleship.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Mon 12 Dec 2022 18:07:05 No.5494380 Report

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>>5494371
If I remember correctly, our navy is expanding, though desu I would’ve like to have gotten some character development with Wrix’s Father.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Mon 12 Dec 2022 18:14:43 No.5494385 Report

Quoted By: >>5494409

>>5494318
Not necessarily true. Freeing up gaurding logistics and manufacturing labor could be pretty good.

Antimatter is still better though.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:3p3LVqUX Mon 12 Dec 2022 18:54:45 No.5494409 Report

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>>5494385
We already *have* a better industry than the esaal, and we're already spending a lot of stuff in the Monkey Rapture project.

There's no point in just investing in industry forever if we're never actually going to use it to build our navy.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Mon 12 Dec 2022 19:27:10 No.5494430 Report

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>>5494371
It's a classic mistake that a ton of beginners make in 4x games. They build and they build and they build and then they get their teeth kicked in by the neighbour who built an army.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Mon 12 Dec 2022 20:29:52 No.5494481 Report

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>>5493803
>>Antimatter Weapons

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:t7qZmNWr Mon 12 Dec 2022 20:30:56 No.5494482 Report

Quoted By: >>5494490

>>5493803
>Antimatter Weapons

We should set Three Mind to investigate this secondary function of the Life Machine. Will probably take it hundreds of years…better start now

>transplantation of the Baalathi genes into Jaxtian
While not ‘illegal’ this is surely overstepping the line

Incredibly brave thing to do when we just wore the Deathmask and stamped down on non-conformity

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Mon 12 Dec 2022 20:41:08 No.5494490 Report

Quoted By: >>5494558

>>5494482
The Maktana clones are based, we should nominate one as Supreme Ruler someday.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:yr3FZvnc Mon 12 Dec 2022 21:54:02 No.5494545 Report

Quoted By: >>5494552 >>5494559 >>5494566 >>5494814

>replicators

Building is more useful than destruction.

We aren't at war and we are on neutral relations with all our neighbors. Now is the time to build or industry to serve the welfare of the people.

What is the point of all this conquest in the name of the Hegemony if we don't actually achieve something with all our power and resources?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:3p3LVqUX Mon 12 Dec 2022 22:00:12 No.5494552 Report

Quoted By: >>5494557

>>5494545
>we are on neutral relations with all our neighbours
the consortium tried to kill our supreme multiple times, the esaal have at best put a hold on our conflict temporarily and the worm cyte is still coming towards us

are you actually even reading this quest

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Mon 12 Dec 2022 22:08:12 No.5494557 Report

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>>5494552
Reminder that at least one anon admitted in the previous threat that he's staying only to sabotage the quest.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:xq0eb3wu Mon 12 Dec 2022 22:10:28 No.5494558 Report

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>>5494490
I suspect Maktana III and Wrix's artist kid may both be candidates.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Mon 12 Dec 2022 22:10:30 No.5494559 Report

Quoted By: >>5494567

>>5494545
We've been doing nothing but achieving things with our power and resources. We haven't done anything with our military all thread. It's okay to use one (1) advance on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Mon 12 Dec 2022 22:24:32 No.5494566 Report

Quoted By: >>5494567

>>5494545
Buddy we can invest (1) (one) (uno) thing into military. It's fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:v52/39kl Mon 12 Dec 2022 22:27:33 No.5494567 Report

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>>5494559
>>5494566
Antimatter weapons are winning.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:f9HJ8+Tb Tue 13 Dec 2022 03:30:58 No.5494814 Report

Quoted By: >>5494815

>>5494545
>We aren't at war and we are on neutral relations with all our neighbors. The Essal and Consortium are overtly hostile towards us even if they are unable or unwilling to take direct action at this time.

Make no mistake we are in a state of COLD war right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:f9HJ8+Tb Tue 13 Dec 2022 03:32:17 No.5494815 Report

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>>5494814
Oops over did the green text, but you get what I'm saying right?

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Tue 13 Dec 2022 05:09:27 No.5494933 Report

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By applying different levels and frequencies of energy to the BAG substance; it can be turned into different elements and forms of matter. Even a very small amount of BAG can create “from nothing” a very large amount of normal matter of any kind; leading to its potential use in 3d printing and replication technology; or even as a defensive tool to be released to “catch” large amounts of radiation or explosive force- Hwat's prototype anti-nuclear defense platform used the same concept.

But the most practical use of the BAG under your guidance is for military application; in the form of Antimatter. By exposing the BAG to just the right amount of energy; it can actually create matter of the opposite charge. Instead of a Proton, there is a Negatron. Instead of an electron, there is a Positron. Antimatter has been a subject of scientific study for a very long time; but before this there was no way to get your hands on any of it.

...And once the science team does get a hold of freshly created anti-matter, they find its scientific use somewhat disappointing. It's just matter with the opposite charge. It does everything the same way regular matter does; it just can't exist interact with normal matter without being destroyed. Needless to say, your scientists are a little disappointed. You even ordered Maktana II to get on it as soon as possible.

”I could be studying fish sperm right now...”

But for its intended use? Antimatter is quite good. Antimatter gives off a huge amount of energy and instantly “deletes” any normal matter it comes into contact with. While this energy can't generate more then it costs to create the antimatter- Azurium is still just regular matter no matter how strong it is, so Antimatter can destroy it. Even a single antimatter missile can do huge damage to the heaviest Azurium armor coatings- and with this supply of BAG being used to arm your entire space fleet with it, you have greatly advanced your wartime strength.

Of course, this advancement does not replace the function and overall combat power of a battleship- but you've equalized the playing field quite a bit. While you don't have an unlimited amount, your weaponmasters tell you that stockpiling this source of BAG into Antimatter weapons will basically be enough to last you a few hundred years of constant warfare, so you don't have to worry about running out of munitions any time soon.

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Tue 13 Dec 2022 05:12:26 No.5494935 Report

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Once your Antimatter arsenal is complete; several other technology advancements begin to pick up over the 5 year period. Namely, the Esaal stealth crusier. It has been very carefully studied and brought to a Hegemony research base; numerous devices, AI cores, weapon systems, and artifacts of Esaal culture have been closed examined and cataloged. But for both you and your (now retired) Father, the main attraction is the ship itself.

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Tue 13 Dec 2022 05:13:27 No.5494938 Report

Quoted By: >>5494960 >>5494986 >>5494989 >>5494995 >>5495004 >>5495034 >>5495105 >>5495137 >>5495151 >>5495179 >>5495203 >>5495218 >>5495221 >>5495292 >>5495392 >>5495403

As it turns out; the Esaal stealth capabilities of the ship are based on turning off all of its location and communication devices, keeping its heat and radiation insulted as possible, and not using Star-Sight as navigation to avoid the ship's “presence” from being detected. Because of the Jaxtian Quantum-Entanglement technology and your ships more quality-over-quantity design; you can actually emulate most of these functions already. In fact, the Esaal actually thought you already had some stealth technology already; since you were able to travel thru the Baalathi systems without instantly being detected by every patrolling battleship or crusier. This also explains the Esaal's level of cultural respect and reverance for individuals who command these stealth cruiser like the Flight-Commander that Jale Berax dueled. They are not merely starship captains; but given a lot of freedom since they spend months or even years cut off from the rest of the military in order to run their deep strike missions- even being allowed to set up their own support bases and supply networks.

The biggest weakness of the Esaal stealth ship, as you discovered yourself, is that they still are physically apparent. While space is so vast something as small as a ship can easily go unnoticed, photons will still interact and bounce off a ship's hull, potentially giving it away if you're looking. And hiding the gravity distortions of a ship, however small and low in mass it may be, is essentially impossible.

Your ship designer team tell you that these stealth functions can already be replicated into most Hegemony ships- except cargo or other support vessels- with little cost or time spent. This would only require you to fully break down the Esaal ship into its parts permanently to work as a template basis. But there is potential to improve on the design if you specialize it- creating your own sort of deep-space stealth ship. Even better, the ship could still communicate and coordinate with the rest of the Hegemony because of your QE technology- giving you a distinct advance over the Esaal's own. They may also be able to make the ship unable to be detected by sight, or even gravity, but creating something this refined and specialized would be expensive.

But there is also one more use you can think of for the ship, a certain level of devious potential. You have a fully functioning Esaal ship right here...

>Break the ship down to parts and give minor stealth ability to all Hegemony ships
>Design a new class of Super-Stealth Cruisers (Expensive)
>Keep the Esaal ship so you can use it to launch false-flag operations against the GSA or Consortium

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Tue 13 Dec 2022 05:26:12 No.5494960 Report

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>>5494938
>Design a new class of Super-Stealth Cruisers (Expensive)
Our industry is good (and going to get another huge boost whenever Rapture finishes), and the people are incapable of complaining. Now's the time to go big.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:VQmYTG96 Tue 13 Dec 2022 05:47:36 No.5494986 Report

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>>5494938
>Design a new class of Super-Stealth Cruisers (Expensive)
Gotta go all in boys.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Tue 13 Dec 2022 05:51:31 No.5494989 Report

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>>5494938
>Design a new class of Super-Stealth Cruisers (Expensive)

YES.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Q+e1BN9n Tue 13 Dec 2022 05:54:21 No.5494995 Report

Quoted By:

>>5494938
>Design a new class of Super-Stealth Cruisers (Expensive)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:t7qZmNWr Tue 13 Dec 2022 06:00:48 No.5495004 Report

Quoted By: >>5495034

>>5494938
>Design a new class of Super-Stealth Cruisers (Expensive)
This can be our objective positive legacy

The Wrix-class

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:f9HJ8+Tb Tue 13 Dec 2022 06:21:35 No.5495034 Report

Quoted By: >>5495042 >>5495107

>>5494938
>>Design a new class of Super-Stealth Cruisers (Expensive)
>>5495004
No, the Unspeakable Class.

Indonesian Gentleman

Indonesian Gentleman ID:HN74VGri Tue 13 Dec 2022 06:30:46 No.5495042 Report

Quoted By: >>5495055 >>5495107

>>5495034
Unspeakable-Class works - it is a super-stealth ship.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:f9HJ8+Tb Tue 13 Dec 2022 06:43:02 No.5495055 Report

Quoted By: >>5495107

>>5495042
Exactly

Aw man we can build up a huge amount of mystique around this one.

"How did the entire battle group get wiped out before they even had time to react!?"
"... this is the work of the Unspeakable."
0.0

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Tue 13 Dec 2022 06:54:10 No.5495069 Report

Quoted By: >>5495136 >>5495392

I... I dunno guys. Kinda feels like we're diluting the Unspeakable "brand" here.

What about the Kimnan Class?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Tue 13 Dec 2022 07:26:13 No.5495105 Report

Quoted By:

>>5494938
>Design a new class of Super-Stealth Cruisers (Expensive)
Space Submarine Warfare

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Tue 13 Dec 2022 07:29:02 No.5495107 Report

Quoted By: >>5495136 >>5495137 >>5495167

>>5495034
>>5495042
>>5495055
The Unspeakable class should be our capital ships, the symbol of Hegemonic Supremacy over the cosmos, not some stealth subs, they lack the dread which the Unspeakable should enduce.
I propose we keep the Wrix class name.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Tue 13 Dec 2022 07:36:53 No.5495111 Report

Quoted By:

>Anons hate Wrix and try to get rid of him
>Anons enshrine him into the Hegemony with his own class of vessel
I think Wrix-class is neat btw

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:f9HJ8+Tb Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:03:56 No.5495136 Report

Quoted By:

>>5495069
>Kinda feels like we're diluting the Unspeakable "brand" here.
>>5495107
Eh, I guess you do have a point.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:06:03 No.5495137 Report

Quoted By: >>5495334

>>5494938
>Design a new class of Super-Stealth Cruisers (Expensive)

>>5495107
No, our capital ships should be the 'Supreme' or 'Hegemon' classes. 'Unspeakable' works much better as a stealth-ship name. Especially as their development is being commanded by one who wore the unspeakable's mask.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:26:02 No.5495149 Report

Quoted By:

>>5476181

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:27:12 No.5495151 Report

Quoted By:

>>5494938
>Design a new class of Super-Stealth Cruisers (Expensive)
Stealth antimatter bombers!

Indonesian Gentleman

Indonesian Gentleman ID:HN74VGri Tue 13 Dec 2022 09:02:39 No.5495167 Report

Quoted By: >>5495334

>>5495107
Supreme-Class for our capitals/supercapitals
Unspeakable-Class for stealth capital

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Tue 13 Dec 2022 09:09:16 No.5495174 Report

Quoted By: >>5495191 >>5495203 >>5495295 >>5495347 >>5495475 >>5495712

Random comment; I wonder if anyone else here HATES how Space 4x games and sci-fi stuff name their ship classes and designations? Even real life naval names which I'm not an expert in are so fucking lame and random. They aren't a linear progression at all- which I mean fair they aren't meant to be.

Personally I just made Battleships THE big ship because I think it's the coolest name.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+DnQ83vY Tue 13 Dec 2022 09:23:10 No.5495179 Report

Quoted By:

>>5494938
>>Keep the Esaal ship so you can use it to launch false-flag operations against the GSA or Consortium

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DRHYyYhh Tue 13 Dec 2022 09:36:03 No.5495191 Report

Quoted By:

>>5495174
……
Hold up.

Battleships are the biggest ships?

Huh.

I thought they’d be a third phase to ship design, but that’s Space 4X for you.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:icgyBj4U Tue 13 Dec 2022 09:49:36 No.5495203 Report

Quoted By:

>>5494938
>>Design a new class of Super-Stealth Cruisers (Expensive)

>>5495174
Most 4X and scifi media follow the pre WWII ship class classification. So it's Battleship>Cruiser>Destroyer>Frigate>Corvette.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:A8rNmgw8 Tue 13 Dec 2022 10:10:50 No.5495218 Report

Quoted By:

>>5494938
>Design a new class of Super-Stealth Cruisers (Expensive)
I like the name Unspeakable.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:yK/fxGD/ Tue 13 Dec 2022 10:13:27 No.5495221 Report

Quoted By:

>>5494938
>Design a new class of Super-Stealth Cruisers (Expensive)
Wrixtealth Cruisers (vvri xpensive)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:LII4BmLJ Tue 13 Dec 2022 12:24:55 No.5495292 Report

Quoted By:

>>5494938
>Design a new class of Super-Stealth Cruisers (Expensive)
We already spent a long-ass time working on our economy, let's finally spend it on something...

Stealth Cruisers with Antimatter Missiles seems like it would work like a charm against the Esaal. We can go behind their lines, blow up their Worm Stations, and fuck up their FTL capabilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:LII4BmLJ Tue 13 Dec 2022 12:26:57 No.5495295 Report

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>>5495174
I suppose i understand that sometimes you have some fucky stuff, but i do like it when there are alternatives.

Kind of like how star wars uses stuff like Heavy Cruisers, Battlecruisers and Dreadnaughts.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:MTqmFuWb Tue 13 Dec 2022 13:33:47 No.5495334 Report

Quoted By:

>>5495137
>>5495167
They'd be pretty "Unspeakable" when you start loading bioweapons and stealth striking them on enemy homeworlds with zero warning.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:f9HJ8+Tb Tue 13 Dec 2022 13:47:48 No.5495347 Report

Quoted By:

>>5495174
>Even real life naval names which I'm not an expert in are so fucking lame and random.

I think I watched a youtube video that explained the history of the various class names, apparently they were more meaningful during the age of sail, but post WW2 they've become increasingly meaningless as all non-aircraft carrier surface warships are starting to become homogenized.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Tue 13 Dec 2022 14:36:26 No.5495392 Report

Quoted By: >>5495448

>>5494938
>Break the ship down to parts and give minor stealth ability to all Hegemony ships

>Because of the Jaxtian Quantum-Entanglement technology and your ships more quality-over-quantity design; you can actually emulate most of these functions already. In fact, the Esaal actually thought you already had some stealth technology already; since you were able to travel thru the Baalathi systems without instantly being detected by every patrolling battleship or crusier.

Like… we’d turn every ship into their equivalent of a stealth ship, for basically pennies on the dollar. I think this is the unironic play here, more maneuverability and mass stealth means we have the initiative and major raiding/guerrilla warfare potential.

>>5495069
The Unspeakable brand was diluted when Wrix took it on. Instead as Akule THE Unspeakable, he’s just Akule the first Unspeakable now.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Tue 13 Dec 2022 15:07:29 No.5495403 Report

Quoted By:

>>5494938
>Design a new class of Super-Stealth Cruisers (Expensive)
Would've vvoted for the minor one but everyone's already voting for this

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Tue 13 Dec 2022 15:57:52 No.5495448 Report

Quoted By: >>5495459

>>5495392
If the ESSAL were the major concern, yes I's agree but the Worms are the true long term threat.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Tue 13 Dec 2022 16:14:42 No.5495459 Report

Quoted By:

>>5495448
It would effectively be anti-Worm as well.

Indonesian Gentleman

Indonesian Gentleman ID:HN74VGri Tue 13 Dec 2022 16:43:21 No.5495475 Report

Quoted By:

>>5495174
My understanding of sci-fi ship classes, from the smallest to biggest:
>Strikecraft: small dogfighting size ships, things like Fighters and Bombers
>Corvette: fast but small ship, bigger than strikecrafts, usual roles are picket ships and anti-strikecraft
>Frigate: slightly bigger, upgunned Corvettes that can gang up against a single Destroyer
>Destroyer: standard medium-sized ship with multiple roles
>Cruiser: usually escorts Capitals and Supercapitals, or convoys, bigger than Destroyer
>Capital: Battleships, Carriers, Dreadnoughts, big fuckoff ships that people see as a symbol of your military might
>Supercapital: very huge ships that stop just shy of a mobile battlestation or a small moon, Titans, Colossi, Juggernauts - these are superweapons in their own right

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Tue 13 Dec 2022 18:41:24 No.5495569 Report

Quoted By: >>5495877

The Esaal have a powerful weapon here- a stealth cruiser. You should have one of your own. And you'll do it better.

”Invisible materials can only be “on” and can't be turned off as needed? We don't know if it's even possible to mask a gravity distortion on any object that has mass? Do I care? Get it done. I don't care how- tear out the AI cores of nonessential services! Increase motivation- Offer a housing class upgrade to any man who makes good progress. Or two wives! I don't care! No cost is too high!”

While quite expensive, several research projects and concepts are given a large amount of funding. Many under qualified researchers are given grants and facilities, many will fall out, but a few will yield results. You pull promising students out of life science, ecology, and infrastructure programs specifically to work on theoretical stealth materials- plus the massive amount of resources that need to go to cover up all this secret research from any outgoing and interplanetary signals. After all, a stealth cruiser should remain at least a little bit of a secret. It'll take a few years to finally get a working model out there- but when it is finished you could fly the ship cloaked to the Esaal's homeworld, sit in orbit, and they would never know.

Meanwhile; your focus is pulled away from the Cold War with the Esaal at the moment to a new opportunity- somewhere much closer to home.

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Tue 13 Dec 2022 18:46:54 No.5495572 Report

Xin, the once sterile planet in the closest star-system to your own Homeworld, has since been terraformed into a habitable world. Starting hundreds of years ago with a probe sent by the Supreme Ruler Talacent and only finally being finished a generation ago with your predecessor- Cijan. The planet once had no atmosphere with lifeless liquid oceans- since changed with specially designed pink bacteria which permanently stained its oceans and sky pink. The planet has since gained a breathable atmosphere- though with no native plants, animals, or microbiology it has been in a fragile state ever since the first Jaxtians could walk on its surface without a spacesuit.

But in recent years, Xin has undergone a bit of a transformation. Billions of Blue Hazaar were killed here- their bodies buried and spread to the winds- nutrients and calories of well fed and healthy ex-citizens being added. The biosphere of this planet has gone through a great growth and transformation; insects, plants, fungi, and microorganisms have been spread out of control in the best possible way; it was essentially an all you can eat buffet! The planet went from a dirt ball with carefully managed poverty grasses and walled gardens to protect its soil from erosion into a planet with a real biosphere. The scientists managing the Xin project state throw a celebration among themselves- the planet has officially reached the point of self-sufficiency! Its biological forms of life can now sustain themselves- a simple but strong food web and a high enough population to evolve to adapt to any realistic changes in climate or temperature mean that even if every single Jaxtian left this planet now- it would still be a cradle for life. Well done!

Of course, none of that actually means anything on its own. While a few billion Jaxtians do call this place home, mostly climate researchers, biologists, families of those who work in the surrounding Xin systems orbital bodies- they mostly live in the two or three urban zones while most of the planet is relatively barren of greater exploitation. In many ways, this planet was always intended as the pressure-release for your once overpopulated homeworld- but now with the great explosion of habitable worlds and space- that won't be a problem anymore. Especially once the Great City is completed...

So what are you going to do with Xin?

>Vacation / Pleasure World
>Bioindustries - Farms, medicines, textiles.
>Isolate a small number of Jaxtians here without science knowledge and study them as primitives
>Develop cities and industrial bases here
>Other? (Write In)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Tue 13 Dec 2022 18:52:47 No.5495579 Report

Quoted By: >>5496043

>>5495572
>Bioindustries - Farms, medicines, textiles.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:LII4BmLJ Tue 13 Dec 2022 18:54:28 No.5495581 Report

Quoted By: >>5495584 >>5496043

>>5495572
>Bioindustries - Farms, medicines, textiles.
Pleasure worlds are degenerate, and i really don't see what we gain from isolating a bunch of Jaxtians. We're already going to have an ecumenopolis so no need for industrial swathes either.

HOWEVER, I really do feel like there's something else that could be done, seeing that write-in...

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+DnQ83vY Tue 13 Dec 2022 18:55:36 No.5495583 Report

Quoted By:

>>5495572
>>Vacation / Pleasure World

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+DnQ83vY Tue 13 Dec 2022 18:56:55 No.5495584 Report

Quoted By: >>5495592

>>5495581
A military/fortress world perhaps?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:LII4BmLJ Tue 13 Dec 2022 19:04:16 No.5495592 Report

Quoted By:

>>5495584
Not really, as far as i know there isn't enough necessity for ground troops in this 'universe' when it comes to warfare, and producing ships inside an atmosphere is dumb.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:dP9Rb6S3 Tue 13 Dec 2022 19:04:23 No.5495594 Report

Quoted By: >>5495631 >>5495651 >>5495880

>>5495572
>Create a zoo world recreating ecosystems from Swalli, Vetuck and Jaxt. Preserve primitive versions of all these species for study in a variety of ways. In other sections create vast jungles of terrible monstrosities for training and testing of new weapons. Combine the predators of both Vetuck and Swalli to populate them.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Tue 13 Dec 2022 19:29:48 No.5495631 Report

Quoted By:

>>5495594
+1 for zoo world, throw Maktana II a bone before he goes

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Tue 13 Dec 2022 19:39:49 No.5495643 Report

Quoted By: >>5496043

>>5495572
>Bioindustries - Farms, medicines, textiles.
Onwards with our soft industry

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Tue 13 Dec 2022 19:41:44 No.5495646 Report

Quoted By:

>>5495572
>Zoo world recreating ecosystems from Swalli, Vetuck, and Jaxt. If that's not possible, Bioindustries.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Tue 13 Dec 2022 19:45:20 No.5495651 Report

Quoted By:

>>5495594
>zoo world
Mate, what? Do you really want to waste one of the few planets we own to make a "zoo"? It doesn't even work that way, those species came from totaly different planets and you want to drop them in one that was recently terraformed to suite Jaxtian life? We need special facilities for this kind of thing, not a whole planet.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Tue 13 Dec 2022 19:50:07 No.5495654 Report

Quoted By: >>5496043

>>5495572
>Bioindustries - Farms, medicines, textiles.
We don't have that much free space of life that is not going to be colonized heavily so bioindustries sound like a good investment.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:MtQ9R40S Tue 13 Dec 2022 20:17:06 No.5495678 Report

Quoted By:

>>5495572
>Bioindustries - Farms, medicines, textiles.
We’re gonna have a lot of ability to grow

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:yMAhNBNx Tue 13 Dec 2022 20:30:39 No.5495695 Report

Quoted By: >>5495708

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Buc70O7K Tue 13 Dec 2022 20:38:44 No.5495704 Report

Quoted By: >>5496043

>>5495572
>Bioindustries - Farms, medicines, textiles.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Tue 13 Dec 2022 20:47:49 No.5495708 Report

Quoted By: >>5495719 >>5496043

>>5495572
>Bioindustries - Farms, medicines, textiles.

>>5495695
Whilst I'd like to do that someday, let's do it:
1) After the reign of the guy who killed them all is over.
2) Once we find a world that is on paper good enough to settle but has something about it that prevents standard Jaxtians from living there. Compound in the atmosphere toxic to Jaxtians but not Vetuckers, or a Catachan-style death-world.
3) Is outside of our 'Home' Stellar cluster.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:UdIxIPNN Tue 13 Dec 2022 20:50:53 No.5495712 Report

Quoted By:

>>5495174
Can we not make space carriers…?

>>5495572
>Half zoo world, half Bioindustries

It’s an entire planet with multiple continents, no reason we can’t do both

Don’t create the mega jungles though, seems like a waste

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:UoycEVac Tue 13 Dec 2022 20:58:22 No.5495719 Report

Quoted By: >>5495722 >>5495726

>>5495708
If we start with a zoo and/or agri-world now, we can ressurect the Vetuckers later. Maybe Wrix, Maktana, or Bluey & Kima's kid will be a Supreme and want to do so. Wrix's kid has a heightened sense of morality, the Maktana Nanoaes have a long history of xeno camaraderie, and Eoba Dulioan will have grown up in a cosmopolitan vassal state and will have an ex-xeno and a liberal moralist for parents.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Tue 13 Dec 2022 21:03:47 No.5495722 Report

Quoted By:

>>5495719
>Eoba Dulioan will have grown up in a cosmopolitan vassal state and will have an ex-xeno and a liberal moralist for parents.
Jokes on you, that kid will grow up to be the biggest imperialist in Jaxtian history with a home environment like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Tue 13 Dec 2022 21:08:33 No.5495726 Report

Quoted By: >>5495742

>>5495719
Wrix was able to singlehandedly wipe out all our liberalization and xeno-integration progress along with the vetuckers without us ever meaning to. I have no hope for the future when the next Wrix can just randomly come along and wipe everything out at any moment.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:UdIxIPNN Tue 13 Dec 2022 21:29:14 No.5495742 Report

Quoted By: >>5495880

>>5495726
Welcome to changes in leadership anon.

New supremes are not bound to the choices of their formers.

The next supreme could stop the development of the great city of stealth cruiser if they wanted to

>>5493795
>excess Azurium
Next time we get a significant source, we should consider the construction of a Dyson sphere in the home system

Surely we need to plan for long-term energy demand

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:yr3FZvnc Tue 13 Dec 2022 21:51:26 No.5495750 Report

Quoted By: >>5495754 >>5495759 >>5495763 >>5495767 >>5495804 >>5495809 >>5495824 >>5495880 >>5496361 >>5496491

>Let the HVS decide.

The Blue Hazaar were the ones who terraformed it and they were honored for their service to the Hegemony. The Genocide was a mistake that we don't need to commit to. The Blue Hazaar who developed Xin we're given places to live in the HVS as a reward I feel it is the honorable thing to do to let them decide what to do with Xin.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:LII4BmLJ Tue 13 Dec 2022 21:57:16 No.5495754 Report

Quoted By:

>>5495750
lol no

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Tue 13 Dec 2022 22:03:10 No.5495759 Report

Quoted By: >>5496267

>>5495750
>"Hey guys, sorry we killed a few billion of your dudes. Here's the planet we made grow by using their bodies as fertilizer. Friends?"
lol
lmao, even

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Tue 13 Dec 2022 22:09:50 No.5495763 Report

Quoted By:

>>5495750
lol
lmao even
laughing, perchance

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Tue 13 Dec 2022 22:17:28 No.5495767 Report

Quoted By: >>5495810

>>5495750
do you seriously think wrix would do this in a billion years

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:cYv8+6yx Tue 13 Dec 2022 23:04:54 No.5495804 Report

Quoted By: >>5495812

>>5495750
If I were a Blue Hazaar, I would find the betrayer and butcherer of my people offering me the privilege to decide what to do with their graves ("except live there, of course!") hilariously insulting. It's like rubbing salt in the wound.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Q+e1BN9n Tue 13 Dec 2022 23:12:13 No.5495809 Report

Quoted By:

>>5495750
Lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:yr3FZvnc Tue 13 Dec 2022 23:12:22 No.5495810 Report

Quoted By: >>5495815

>>5495767
If we voted for it yes. Wrix isn't a member of the Supremacist faction, he just killed the non-Jataxians as a publicity stunt to drum up political support.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:yr3FZvnc Tue 13 Dec 2022 23:12:55 No.5495812 Report

Quoted By: >>5495815

>>5495804
I actually thinking letting HVS settle people there would be a good option.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Tue 13 Dec 2022 23:16:50 No.5495815 Report

Quoted By: >>5495829

>>5495810
>>5495812
We were literally on a genocidal death spiral for a solid few decades before we cooled down. I think going up to the race we gutted a shit ton of people from and go "hey what should we do with this" is insulting in a degree that...

I don't think spite is a good description. It's even beyond that.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:UdIxIPNN Tue 13 Dec 2022 23:26:50 No.5495824 Report

Quoted By:

>>5495750
lolno

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:yr3FZvnc Tue 13 Dec 2022 23:30:14 No.5495829 Report

Quoted By: >>5495839

>>5495815
Let me rephrase. I didn't mean

"hey what should we do with this?"

I meant

"This is yours to do with as you decide."

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:LII4BmLJ Tue 13 Dec 2022 23:39:03 No.5495839 Report

Quoted By:

>>5495829
That's even stupider and goes against every foundation of the hegemony

The HVS is literally a capitalist hellhole, kima became a billionaire.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Tue 13 Dec 2022 23:46:44 No.5495848 Report

Quoted By: >>5495850 >>5495852

>>5495572
>Vacation / Pleasure World
or
>Isolate a small number of Jaxtians here without science knowledge and study them as primitives
or
>Leave it as a reminder
Just for something more interesting than fucking farms, Jesus. Unless the Write In is a hint that there is a secret

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Tue 13 Dec 2022 23:49:33 No.5495850 Report

Quoted By: >>5495852

>>5495848
>Unless the Write In is a hint that there is a secret
It's 1000% a hint that there's a secret.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Tue 13 Dec 2022 23:52:46 No.5495852 Report

Quoted By: >>5495880

>>5495848
>>5495850

The secret is 'we can choose to do something else with this world if we want, the players might have another idea they decide they want more'.

Not every write-in option is a single super-specific thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Tue 13 Dec 2022 23:55:35 No.5495857 Report

Quoted By: >>5495871 >>5495872

>>5495572
>"Zoo" / huge biosciences laboratory

This is our first terraformed world. Perhaps by studying this world and the evolution across it we can gain significant insight into biology.

I mean, we could always create a death world to make jungle fighters and breed war-beasts, but why? We strike from the sky.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Q+e1BN9n Wed 14 Dec 2022 00:03:30 No.5495871 Report

Quoted By:

>>5495857
War Beasts are cool

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Wed 14 Dec 2022 00:03:59 No.5495872 Report

Quoted By:

>>5495572
>>5495857
I've changed my mind:
>Starsight colony.

Make this a home for those who express an interest and capability for starlight. Breed a new class of jedi on this low-population world near the space-whale lanes. What could go wrong with developing our psychics on a world built through mass-murder?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:f9HJ8+Tb Wed 14 Dec 2022 00:08:21 No.5495875 Report

Quoted By: >>5496043

>>5495572
>Bioindustries - Farms, medicines, textiles.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Wed 14 Dec 2022 00:09:43 No.5495877 Report

Quoted By: >>5495881

>>5495569
>Cloaked Ships

For all the past talk about 'Klingons LARPing as Vulcans', it seemed we missed our obvious Star Trek Analogue.

...Can we call our intelligence service the 'Tail Shear'?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Wed 14 Dec 2022 00:13:18 No.5495880 Report

Quoted By: >>5496308

>>5495594
I’d support this as well if I thought it had any chance of doing shit.

>>5495742
Except in the case of the Accord Vow Laws, which would both be unbreakable and demean the Supreme Ruler position to the point of ridicule.THAT would be permanent, somehow.

>>5495750
I do agree with you, the genocides don’t make sense (especially when you bring Schrödinger's puppet [the HVS] into it), and the Blue Hazzar deserve it for their service. I also think it’s a no-go character wise (as in, I don’t think the character would do it even if we voted for it), so really it’s just back to square one for Xin.

>>5495852
Given the amount of secrets that we miss, I do think it’s wise to assume that there may be a secret to find in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Wed 14 Dec 2022 00:15:01 No.5495881 Report

Quoted By:

>>5495877
>...Can we call our intelligence service the 'Tail Shear'?
That’s a good reference desu, support.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Wed 14 Dec 2022 00:21:25 No.5495890 Report

Quoted By:

I don't see a secret related to Xin itself. The nearby features are metallic asteroids, the ash world, space-whales, and worms. I'm guessing that there's a space-whale migratory path near here and the worms follow the whales, but whatever. If there is a secret, it's a question of what society needs rather than what Xin can provide. That and we maybe created a plague world.

So what does society need? We have food from Greenland, metals from all over, and housing in development. Health and sanity are nice, but I'm in favor of dedicating resources to science (biology) and starsight. With the possibility of a whale-lane nearby maybe giving a chance of *good event* to developing starsight here. Also, the ghosts of dead bluebugs. War Beasts are cool though, and I like the zoo. I just like Jedi world more.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Wed 14 Dec 2022 00:23:24 No.5495892 Report

Quoted By:

The other central aspect of Xin is that it keeps trying to be a breakaway state, but we have the HVS to fill that narrative role now.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:VQmYTG96 Wed 14 Dec 2022 01:22:55 No.5495967 Report

Quoted By: >>5496043

>>5495572
>Bioindustries - Farms, medicines, textiles.
Let's try not to have another food crisis ever again.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jQ8Kehb2 Wed 14 Dec 2022 01:38:34 No.5495986 Report

Quoted By: >>5496043

>>5495572
>Bioindustries - Farms, medicines, textiles.

Food security is a great gift indeed.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Q+e1BN9n Wed 14 Dec 2022 02:12:03 No.5496043 Report

Quoted By: >>5496047 >>5496060 >>5496062 >>5496111 >>5496242

>>5495579
>>5495581
>>5495643
>>5495654
>>5495704
>>5495708
>>5495875
>>5495967
>>5495986

You guys realize we have effectively three farm worlds currently with Jaxt, Andeon, and Vetuck. Vetuck in addition is the most fertile world ever discovered and will likely dwarf all others. In addition, all space stations and colonies have fully self-sufficient hydroponics systems. We have a completely blank slate world here and it would be a waste to simply add it to the pile of bioindustry we are already doing.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Buc70O7K Wed 14 Dec 2022 02:17:33 No.5496047 Report

Quoted By:

>>5496043
QM verify?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Wed 14 Dec 2022 02:33:13 No.5496060 Report

Quoted By: >>5496083

>>5496043
Turn it into a Vacation/Research Paradise and have Safaris with the collected alien ecosystems we gained here. Maybe Manaka can unlock Pokeball tech, and finally turn into the Professor Oak he was always meant to become.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:LII4BmLJ Wed 14 Dec 2022 02:35:32 No.5496062 Report

Quoted By: >>5496083 >>5496172

>>5496043
It's pretty much the best thing left, though
The Great City will already deal with population and industry. The xeno zoo is a dumb idea, and pleasure worlds are degenerate

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Q+e1BN9n Wed 14 Dec 2022 02:46:45 No.5496083 Report

Quoted By: >>5496099

>>5496062
>>5496060

We can create literally any ecosystem on this planet from scratch and you want to just grind out more farms? We could tailor-build the perfect training world for the Death Commandos or create a genetic laboratory to create both bioweapons and biowarbeasts.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Wed 14 Dec 2022 02:52:13 No.5496099 Report

Quoted By: >>5496103

>>5496083
A second write-in isn't going to win at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Q+e1BN9n Wed 14 Dec 2022 02:54:43 No.5496103 Report

Quoted By:

>>5496099
That's just a lame excuse to continue on the lame train we are currently headed for.

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Wed 14 Dec 2022 02:58:20 No.5496111 Report

Quoted By: >>5496180

>>5496043
Andoen and Jaxt are not "farm worlds"
You're still the guy paying the most attention though.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Wed 14 Dec 2022 03:59:05 No.5496172 Report

Quoted By: >>5496181 >>5496213 >>5496263 >>5496267

>>5496062
Give it to the HVS as a public reversal of the genocide.

This is our chance to start undoing the mistakes of the last thread

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Q+e1BN9n Wed 14 Dec 2022 04:05:05 No.5496180 Report

Quoted By:

>>5496111
They aren't complete farm worlds but they still have high agricultural output based on the previous development that has been done on them and are at the very least self-sufficient. Which still makes it a massive waste to make another farm world after Vetuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Q+e1BN9n Wed 14 Dec 2022 04:06:05 No.5496181 Report

Quoted By: >>5496314

>>5496172
The Genocide was not a mistake, they deserved it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Wed 14 Dec 2022 04:28:03 No.5496213 Report

Quoted By: >>5496314

>>5496172
again, wtf makes you think wrix would do this after spending 15 years genociding and then going on a maniacal rant about torturing children

get a grip

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:f9HJ8+Tb Wed 14 Dec 2022 04:56:07 No.5496242 Report

Quoted By: >>5496249

>>5496043
I was focussing more on the bio-tech angle when I cast that vote. I'm not sure a full on xeno zoo is the best idea, but I'm all for using the land to simulate off-world environments for the sake of training and scientific experimentation. Maybe gene-labs for designer organisms that incorporate the useful traits from our conquered vassal races. I know some peeps are cagey about altering Jaxtians, but there's still potential for modded livestock or maybe modding the migrators to survive a boader range of environments.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Q+e1BN9n Wed 14 Dec 2022 05:02:44 No.5496249 Report

Quoted By:

>>5496242
A zoo is just live storage for all the xenos creatures and will allow us to gather better data on them over time by monitoring them. We have already extensively modified the genes of the Jaxtian at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:f9HJ8+Tb Wed 14 Dec 2022 05:11:00 No.5496263 Report

Quoted By: >>5496314

>>5496172
Mistakes may or may not have been made. But securing the absolute authority of the office of Supreme Ruler was one of the few good things that came of it.

There is nothing to reverse or reconcile.
The Supreme Ruler cannot be seen to be accountable to anyone. He does not need to justify his actions much less apologise for them. If a new direction must be taken then it is because the Supreme Ruler has changed their mind not because they were "wrong".

Supreme Ruler must always be supreme. We must own their actions for better or for worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:lE/A3CIc Wed 14 Dec 2022 05:12:25 No.5496267 Report

Quoted By: >>5496314

>>5496172
>>5495759
If you want to pursue that path, vote zoo. Wrix will 100% not let us reverse the genocide, but if we create a sanctuary world, maybe his son or another succesor will be open to sharing it with favoravle xenos.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:B7jzcpCm Wed 14 Dec 2022 05:30:29 No.5496303 Report

Quoted By:

>>5495572
>Bioindustries - Farms, medicines, textiles.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Wed 14 Dec 2022 05:32:45 No.5496307 Report

Quoted By:

>>5495572
>>Other: Leave the world in a primative form except for military bases and space travel hubs as a space for preserving traditional ways both cultural and technological and for Jaxtians to come to disconnect from technology and reconnect with themselves and Jaxtian culture and tradition and history. A space for sociological advancement.

Vantix Garastra once left a tape to a later Supreme and what stuck with me was the question "Who are you?"

They are their choices, including the choice to examine oneself and try to become a better member of society, a better society as a whole, happier, more fulfilled, and purposeful.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Wed 14 Dec 2022 05:33:08 No.5496308 Report

Quoted By:

>>5495880
>I also think it’s a no-go character wise (as in, I don’t think the character would do it even if we voted for it), so really
I disagree. Wrix isn't personally anti-Xeno so there are in-character reasons for him to make such a move

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Wed 14 Dec 2022 05:37:31 No.5496314 Report

Quoted By: >>5496484

>>5496181
They did nothing wrong.

>>5496213
Because Wrix has been shown to be haunted by the mask and he said himself he's not really a Supremacist, he just killed them all to boost his political power of the office. Now that the Hegemony literally can't question his moves he is free to do what he wants .

>>5496263
We're getting into odd Doctrine of Infallibility stuff about changes in offices held to be perfect and ultimate. I argue that since the office of Supreme is Supreme and unquestionable, it's actions can't be seen as wrong or mistakes even if they reverse past ones.

>>5496267
He can't literally reverse the genocide but he can change from the current anti -Xeno policies.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Wed 14 Dec 2022 06:21:01 No.5496361 Report

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>>5495750
Good lord.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:f9HJ8+Tb Wed 14 Dec 2022 08:02:03 No.5496484 Report

Quoted By:

>>5496314
>We're getting into odd Doctrine of Infallibility stuff about changes in offices held to be perfect and ultimate...

On a meta level I know that the Supreme Ruler is of course, not infallible. They can be wrong, but that must never be allowed to undermine thier authority.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:E5CwLd9H Wed 14 Dec 2022 08:09:35 No.5496491 Report

Quoted By: >>5496495 >>5496499 >>5496639 >>5496710 >>5496844

>>5495750

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:plVhPBas Wed 14 Dec 2022 08:13:53 No.5496495 Report

Quoted By:

>>5496491
LEL
OP delivers

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Wed 14 Dec 2022 08:19:59 No.5496499 Report

Quoted By: >>5496526 >>5496710

>>5496491
Joining back in to point out that this Hazaar Vassal is both pathetic AND objectively correct. A Supreme granted the Blaazar amnesty and offered them a reward for generations of loyal work for the Hegemony, and then because less than a hundred were disloyal, billions were exterminated.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:wfxjNkpu Wed 14 Dec 2022 09:27:13 No.5496526 Report

Quoted By: >>5496672

>>5495572
>Zoo world recreating ecosystems from Swalli, Vetuck, and Jaxt. If that's not possible, Bioindustries.
>>5496499
>because less than a hundred were disloyal, billions were exterminated
Sounds good to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Wed 14 Dec 2022 12:24:57 No.5496639 Report

Quoted By:

>>5496491
lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Wed 14 Dec 2022 14:00:47 No.5496672 Report

Quoted By: >>5496684

>>5496526
>because less than a hundred were disloyal, billions were exterminated
>Sounds good to me.
How is that good?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Wed 14 Dec 2022 14:38:09 No.5496684 Report

Quoted By: >>5496707

>>5496672
It isn’t, anon is just being callous

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:PBGqEaKB Wed 14 Dec 2022 15:22:19 No.5496707 Report

Quoted By:

>>5496684
Figures

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:PBGqEaKB Wed 14 Dec 2022 15:25:38 No.5496710 Report

Quoted By: >>5496711 >>5496730 >>5496809 >>5497022

>>5496491
I think this post was in poor taste. It's not like that was a personal insult against the game or you personally. It was an honest assessment of the setting but you responded with a mocking sketch. The only time you did that before was when someone was going on a rant. I don't think "your bad and you should feel bad" is the right response a QM should give to a good faith vote especially when as

>>5496499
Said, it's not even a ridiculous take.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:sBFcDnbb Wed 14 Dec 2022 15:28:45 No.5496711 Report

Quoted By:

>>5496710
>t. Hazaar

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:dP9Rb6S3 Wed 14 Dec 2022 15:57:38 No.5496730 Report

Quoted By:

>>5496710
This is exactly what a Hazaar would say.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fHFx4dxV Wed 14 Dec 2022 17:33:51 No.5496809 Report

Quoted By:

>>5496710
>it's not even a ridiculous take
Buddy, the QM and the entire rest of the thread except for 1 guy think that it's a ridiculous take. I was anti-mask and anti-genocide and I think it's a ridiculous take. Take the L.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Wed 14 Dec 2022 18:04:08 No.5496844 Report

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>>5496491
Nice. Newfags probably won't get the reference.

The anon who you are referring to

The anon who you are referring to ID:thwlaGBQ Wed 14 Dec 2022 22:23:45 No.5497022 Report

Quoted By: >>5497123

>>5496710
I defend the correctness of the Blue Hazaar feeling betrayed and entitled to Xin. I don't defend it as a sensible thing for Wrix to do. That would, indeed, be ridiculous. Also: probably gravely offensive given he killed 9 billion Blaazar and used their melted and mulched babies to feed the flowers. Don't forget: Blues are capable of empathy, and we indoctrinated them to value children, just to torture their offspring to death whike they watched.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:zM6JOtL0 Thu 15 Dec 2022 00:08:42 No.5497123 Report

Quoted By: >>5497137

>>5497022
>and we indoctrinated them to value children, just to torture their offspring to death whike they watched.
Why would we do that? What is the post of torturing them . Just to intimidate Jataxians?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:BufTZLHn Thu 15 Dec 2022 00:16:11 No.5497137 Report

Quoted By: >>5497166

>>5497123
Something something god isn't real and evil is good.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:zM6JOtL0 Thu 15 Dec 2022 00:50:45 No.5497166 Report

Quoted By:

>>5497137
I really hate where this quest wound up.

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Thu 15 Dec 2022 01:21:39 No.5497201 Report

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You decide to allot Xin's growing biosphere to bio industries- crops, textiles, medicines- and anything else that can be grown in the earth and sea.

The question is brought up- what exactly are you going to grow there? That's what you're not sure of yet. But the fact its a totally alien and artificial biosphere means there is no native ecology to disrupt. You could one day have genetically modified organisms filling every ecological niche on Xin, each providing a variety of useful byproducts and cast offs. Just imagine plants growing to extract silicates from the soil and collecting them in useful wafers to produce electronics, all without any expensive soil-sorting machines. Bugs that produce nylon-web strands that can be spun directly into uniforms. The eyes boggle at the possibilities; but with the life machine's miracle now put into a more realistic light and your science Overseer a bit busy- you have to put these off for the future.

Meanwhile, on Jaxt, in the Noble House of Garastra- Clok meets with a young supplicant for the Supreme Rulership.

“You're a bit scrawny for an Alpha male- I thought young Alphas grew faster then that?”
”I don't have the Vetucker gene. My Grandfather, Kerjak, saw to that. The Falathanes have a special breeding license to remain pure, free from further alien genome infection. It's the only reason I have a mind worthy of becoming a Supreme, compared to others my age.”
“Ahh. But I'm sure the Suspension gene for space traveling comfort and surgeries are fine. The Migrators clearly don't count. And the whale gene to equalize your lifespan with the rest of the Jaxtians? That must not count either.”
”...What's the supposed to mean- Woah! You have the Red Blade!? That's Jale Berax's Knife! It's huge!”
“It's a big knife for a big man- but no, this is just a replica. His is made with Azurium, this one is merely carbon steel. Will still kill a man. The only other Azurium blade known to the Hegemony belongs to another- though it's not a knife, more of a stiletto...”
”If I may ask, Clok, why am I here?”
“Because Wrix asked me to tutor you personally. But it's time for me to ask YOU a question, young Bantam... Are you actually a Leraay spy?!”
”WH-WHAT!? NO! NO I SWEAR!”

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Thu 15 Dec 2022 01:22:39 No.5497203 Report

Quoted By: >>5499104

“Oh don't worry, young one. I knew you weren't a spy the moment you reacted- much less the fact all the spies were removed already. I was merely pulling your leg...”
”Lord... Don't scare me like that! Why did you do that?!”
“To illustrate a point. Didn't you hear what I said? I knew you weren't a spy despite not having to check under your skin at all, just from how you reacted.”
”How could you possibly know that?!”
“Simple. When Jaxtians are frightened or surprised- their arms tend upwards- getting their hands closer to nearby branches or rock-faces to climb up for safety. But Leraay instead tend to turn sideways, puff up, and put their hands closer to the ground- to appear bigger and get ready to scamper away. It's a much more feline reaction. Even a very well trained Leraay agent can given themselves away with a basic instinct like this- that was a vital piece of intel that I taught the AI network to help catch all the Consortium Agents during the purging.”
”Huh- that's pretty cool. Psychology teaches you that?”
“Oh yes, all behavior is based on instincts and patterns. Body language is the core aspect of all communication and psychology. That was part of my specialty. You can tell so many things just by how people carry themselves- dominance and social status, aggression, skill, intelligence, personal interest- so many more. Part of the Supreme Ruler training is learning this and mastering it- to control others with your presence in a room without even using your words- that is true skill.”
”...Alright, but why are we in your sparring room?”
“Because you will be learning how to use all the weapons therein.”

”Wh-Wait! I already have knife class! Come on Clok!”
“Ah ah- You haven't been listening! Do you think weapons are created irrespective of their wielders?! NO! The skill and strengths of the users are channeled through their posture! Do you think its any coincidence that Vetuckers once fought with axes instead of with knives? That our dueling tradition came from Blondes, the smallest and most dexterous of all Jaxtian kind? If you wish to become a truly great warrior- you must understand the mindset of a warrior. And in order to know a warrior- you must know his weapon!”

You are now Cijan Anak, Head chronicler and philosopher of the Hegemony. You are currently busy putting the finishing touches on the revised Jaxtian History- your account is the true account. The more heavily censored and obfuscated version of the history that is used in classrooms and available to the average Jaxtian citizen will be produced by AI when yours is done.

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Thu 15 Dec 2022 01:24:13 No.5497206 Report

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The Hegemony has always had total control over history- and control over history and established facts means you control reality. It has always been one of the strongest tools of propaganda. One of the core tenants of this control is the definition of when time begins. To use an antiquated calander from before the Hegemony- counting upwards from the year 3000 or more would be absurd; and give too much credence to the past, when we must look to the future. Instead, the Hegemony has established histories in Eras, with more importance granted to those dates and events of the current age for the next generation.

When the Hegemony first began, it was after the Degenerate Capitalist Era. Then, when Akule the Unspeakable became the first Supreme Ruler- it entered the Formation Era. There was a period of slow growth and lack of scientific interest during the Stability Era, followed by a sudden burst forward in technology and industry during the Advancement Era. This era is often credited to begin with Vantix Garastra at the beginning of the space age, but in truth it started with Gaftar IV with the invention of the AI network and true first self-directing AI intelligences. Ever since then, the Hegemony has been clearly marching along in the Advancement Era. However, the donning of the Death-Mask and great civil changes that have happened in the past century mean that a new Era is now being penned.

Notable Events of this Era
>Year 1- Wrix Val takes power and dons the Death Mask
>Year 4- The Last Blue-Hazaar is exterminated.
>Year 6- The Last Vetucker is exterminated.
>Year 15- The Last Swall is exterminated. Victory Day is first established and celebrated.
>Year 16- Mann Yumm is appointed to the newly created Overseer of Infrastructure. The Esaal attempt and fail to deploy Water-Barbs on Andoen against the population.
>Year 22- Spy campaign against the Esaal finishes as the Threemind is turned on for the first time.
>Year 23- The Last Leraay spy is removed.
>Year 27- The Distant Two-Star Cluster is colonized bordering the Consortium. Azurium is found.
>Year 28- The building of the Great City begins on the ruins of Swallia. Planet to be rennamed.
>Year 29- Secret Esaal base is stealthily captured along with the Esaal stealth crusier.
>Year 33- BAG discovered on Vetuck IV. Life Machine flaw discovered.
>Year 34- Antimatter research beings.
>Year 37- Antimatter arsenal deployed and installed in all Hegemonic vessels.
>Year 38- Prototype Stealth Cruisers begin production at great cost to the treasury.
>Year 39- Xin is given an official designation as a Bio-Industrial World.
>Year 40- Current Year.

Just one thing left to do. What should the name be for this Era of the Hegemony?

>Age of Destruction
>Age of Purity
>Age of Soil
>Other? (Write In)

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Thu 15 Dec 2022 01:26:25 No.5497207 Report

Quoted By: >>5497227 >>5497232 >>5497235 >>5497237 >>5497244 >>5497260 >>5497280 >>5497289 >>5497325 >>5497361 >>5497395 >>5497418 >>5497438 >>5497471 >>5497613 >>5498028 >>5498377 >>5499104

The Hegemony has always had total control over history- and control over history and established facts means you control reality. It has always been one of the strongest tools of propaganda. One of the core tenants of this control is the definition of when time begins. To use an antiquated calander from before the Hegemony- counting upwards from the year 3000 or more would be absurd; and give too much credence to the past, when we must look to the future. Instead, the Hegemony has established histories in Eras, with more importance granted to those dates and events of the current age for the next generation.

When the Hegemony first began, it was after the Degenerate Capitalist Era. Then, when Akule the Unspeakable became the first Supreme Ruler- it entered the Formation Era. There was a period of slow growth and lack of scientific interest during the Stability Era, followed by a sudden burst forward in technology and industry during the Advancement Era. This era is often credited to begin with Vantix Garastra at the beginning of the space age, but in truth it started with Gaftar IV with the invention of the AI network and true first self-directing AI intelligences. Ever since then, the Hegemony has been clearly marching along in the Advancement Era. However, the donning of the Death-Mask and great civil changes that have happened in the past century mean that a new Era is now being penned.

Notable Events of this Era
>Year 1- Wrix Val takes power and dons the Death Mask
>Year 4- The Last Blue-Hazaar is exterminated.
>Year 6- The Last Vetucker is exterminated.
>Year 15- The Last Swall is exterminated. Victory Day is first established and celebrated.
>Year 16- Mann Yumm is appointed to the newly created Overseer of Infrastructure. The Esaal attempt and fail to deploy Water-Barbs on Andoen against the population.
>Year 22- Spy campaign against the Esaal finishes as the Threemind is turned on for the first time.
>Year 23- The Last Leraay spy is removed.
>Year 27- The Distant Two-Star Cluster is colonized bordering the Consortium. Azurium is found.
>Year 28- The building of the Great City begins on the ruins of Swallia. Planet to be rennamed.
>Year 29- Secret Esaal base is stealthily captured along with the Esaal stealth crusier.
>Year 33- BAG discovered on Vetuck IV. Life Machine flaw discovered.
>Year 34- Antimatter research beings.
>Year 37- Antimatter arsenal deployed and installed in all Hegemonic vessels.
>Year 38- Prototype Stealth Cruisers begin production at great cost to the treasury.
>Year 39- Xin is given an official designation as a Bio-Industrial World.
>Year 40- Current Year.

Just one thing left to do. What should the name be for this Era of the Hegemony?

>Destruction Era
>Purity Era
>Strengthening Era
>Other? (Write In)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Thu 15 Dec 2022 01:44:59 No.5497227 Report

Quoted By: >>5497230

>>5497207
>The Natal Era

Why? We have a great deal of physical space after the purges with more to come with the establishment of the hive city. An era of Birth/Rebirth is an ambiguous enough term to allow us to attribute future actions to it. What will be born in the coming era? A new thread? Also, it's a "Fuck You" to the anti-natalists.

If y'all hate "Natal" because it doesn't sound cool and you don't want to flip of the anti-natalists, then "Genesis" has a similar meaning and is more traditional.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:BufTZLHn Thu 15 Dec 2022 01:49:12 No.5497230 Report

Quoted By: >>5499167

>>5497227
I like "Genesis" era, sounds cooler

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Q+e1BN9n Thu 15 Dec 2022 01:53:38 No.5497232 Report

Quoted By:

>>5497207
>Genesis Era

I like this option a lot as suggested by the anon above.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Q+e1BN9n Thu 15 Dec 2022 01:57:00 No.5497235 Report

Quoted By: >>5497244 >>5497253

>>5497207
>The only other Azurium blade known to the Hegemony belongs to another- though it's not a knife, more of a stiletto...

That uber rich hussy got herself a fancy knife, if she wasn't taken the Bluey dick I would be mad.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Thu 15 Dec 2022 01:58:57 No.5497237 Report

Quoted By:

>>5497207
>Resurrection Era

The resurrection of Cijan, the Unspeakable, and the purges and genocide. It fits.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:LrcCeZGA Thu 15 Dec 2022 02:07:19 No.5497244 Report

Quoted By: >>5497245 >>5497256 >>5497265 >>5497355

>>5497235
Kima is based.
Art by tigandra

>>5497207
>Resurrection Era

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Q+e1BN9n Thu 15 Dec 2022 02:08:58 No.5497245 Report

Quoted By: >>5497246

>>5497244
Arrrgh the cute monkey girl has become a monster.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:LrcCeZGA Thu 15 Dec 2022 02:10:06 No.5497246 Report

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>>5497245
You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like. Also: what monkeys look like.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Thu 15 Dec 2022 02:15:30 No.5497253 Report

Quoted By:

>Resurrection Era
Genesis Era sounds stupid in the middle of a list. This is better.

>>5497235
absolutely BASED kima

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Thu 15 Dec 2022 02:19:18 No.5497256 Report

Quoted By: >>5497482

>>5497244
You know, I wasn't expecting that from the preview you sent me, but it's pretty cute and a good scene/character to depict. Thanks for the commission.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Thu 15 Dec 2022 02:22:13 No.5497260 Report

Quoted By:

>>5497207
>Genesis Era

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:BufTZLHn Thu 15 Dec 2022 02:29:42 No.5497265 Report

Quoted By: >>5497482

>>5497244
Pretty nice..though i have to say it looks less like a humanoid monkey and more like a human with fur and a monkey's head.

Still don't like kima, though. She's an capitalist who caused this whole mess. Though i suppose in the end, her child will have the genes all the same...so the hegemony wins.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Thu 15 Dec 2022 02:45:23 No.5497280 Report

Quoted By:

>>5497207
>Purity Era

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Thu 15 Dec 2022 02:51:11 No.5497289 Report

Quoted By:

>>5497207
>Resurrection Era

Take back what was lost.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Zbp5aNTF Thu 15 Dec 2022 03:29:53 No.5497325 Report

Quoted By:

>>5497207
the great reset

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:zM6JOtL0 Thu 15 Dec 2022 04:08:45 No.5497351 Report

Quoted By:

>Death Era

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:zM6JOtL0 Thu 15 Dec 2022 04:12:51 No.5497355 Report

Quoted By: >>5497482

>>5497244
Kima was cool until she hooked up with Bluey.

It's ooc for someone who was so moral she gave up her life dream to get with someone who ran the HVS like he did .

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+DnQ83vY Thu 15 Dec 2022 04:23:06 No.5497361 Report

Quoted By:

>>5497207
>Purity Era

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Thu 15 Dec 2022 05:14:11 No.5497395 Report

Quoted By:

>>5497207
>Purity Era

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:UdIxIPNN Thu 15 Dec 2022 05:30:26 No.5497418 Report

Quoted By:

>>5497207
>Resurrection Era
or
>Purity Era

Both sound cool

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:txZ/TtMq Thu 15 Dec 2022 05:42:32 No.5497438 Report

Quoted By: >>5497531

>>5497207
>Resurrection Era

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:9iqwhba0 Thu 15 Dec 2022 06:10:15 No.5497471 Report

Quoted By: >>5497476 >>5497482

>>5497207
>RECLAMATION ERA

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Thu 15 Dec 2022 06:14:35 No.5497476 Report

Quoted By: >>5497482

>>5497471
I... will consider changing to this. This is really good too. So many good choices!

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RtvsOB6F Thu 15 Dec 2022 06:21:20 No.5497482 Report

Quoted By: >>5497631

>>5497471
>>5497476

Realistically, too late for a new write-in to win.

>>5497256
Glad you liked it. Merry Wrixmas, BQM.

>>5497265
That IS how I picture their body plans, gotta' say.

>>5497355
I feel you, but I hope she will be a good influence on him at least. She's already encouraging him to give up on hangups, right? Guess we'll see...

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Thu 15 Dec 2022 07:12:33 No.5497531 Report

Quoted By:

>>5497438
>Resurrection Era

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Thu 15 Dec 2022 08:19:21 No.5497613 Report

Quoted By:

>>5497207
>Resurrection Era

As the only Resurrected Jaxtian, I guess we're making this about us. The era of the eternal grey man.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Thu 15 Dec 2022 08:39:09 No.5497631 Report

Quoted By: >>5498485

>>5497482
>Guess we'll see...
I bet 3 bananas their child will conquer the Consortium. Kima grew up rebelling against her circumstances, Bluey lived among the Hazaars in his early years and hated them, Eoba III lives in a multicultural ultra-capitalist society with an moralist liberal mom, the day he rebels against his parents is the day we get the perfect counter to the Consortium.

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Thu 15 Dec 2022 15:56:41 No.5497968 Report

Quoted By: >>5497977 >>5498125

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:dP9Rb6S3 Thu 15 Dec 2022 16:05:43 No.5497977 Report

Quoted By: >>5498018 >>5498019 >>5498126

>>5497968
Comfy and sad, the death of the Vetuckers is my only regret about Wrix. The Hazaar and Swale deserved it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Y1UTsiJY Thu 15 Dec 2022 16:36:54 No.5498018 Report

Quoted By:

>>5497977
Still mitigated about the Hazaar; but we can maybe revive aliens later.
Swale however are a problem nipped in the bud.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:V133GFIe Thu 15 Dec 2022 16:37:38 No.5498019 Report

Quoted By: >>5498310

>>5497977
The Swalli didn't really *deserve it*, but they didn't really *not* deserve it either. It was just kinda whatever, we saw so little of them the great city will matter more than they ever will

It really is just the vetucker who had no reason to be genocided. Probably on purpose, since if we only got the people who actually made sense to be genocided aka hazaar and swalli, it wouldn't have been a punishment

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:B7jzcpCm Thu 15 Dec 2022 16:51:59 No.5498028 Report

Quoted By:

>>5497207
>RECLAMATION ERA

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:zM6JOtL0 Thu 15 Dec 2022 18:29:10 No.5498125 Report

Quoted By:

>>5497968
It still hurts

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:zM6JOtL0 Thu 15 Dec 2022 18:30:30 No.5498126 Report

Quoted By:

>>5497977
>The Nine billion citizens who terraformed an entire planet for the Hegemony deserved to be exterminated.
>Children deserved to be tortured to death in front of their parents

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:8eC4GypV Thu 15 Dec 2022 22:09:50 No.5498310 Report

Quoted By: >>5498407

>>5498019
I don’t se how any of them deserve genocide,

The overwhelming majority of blue Hazaar had done no wrong- certainly, no wrong that deserved death- and literally the worse thing the Swali had done at that point was refuse to bow down and kiss our jackboots.

Wrix literally said it himself- he had no reason to kill him beyond the fact that the (Jaxtian) Hegemony gained more from their deaths (in his eyes, anyways) than letting them live.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:3nUyfQtp Thu 15 Dec 2022 23:16:34 No.5498377 Report

Quoted By: >>5499197

>>5497207
>Genesis Era
Yay, Cijan.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Q+e1BN9n Thu 15 Dec 2022 23:57:24 No.5498407 Report

Quoted By: >>5498490

>>5498310
The Swale didn't bow to us, thus they deserved it.

The Hazaar are generally creepy knife dicked rapists, thus they deserved it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Fri 16 Dec 2022 01:12:30 No.5498485 Report

Quoted By:

>>5497631
Don't name the kid "Kylo."

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Fri 16 Dec 2022 01:13:58 No.5498490 Report

Quoted By: >>5498506

>>5498407
Don't cut yourself on all that edge.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:V133GFIe Fri 16 Dec 2022 01:29:06 No.5498506 Report

Quoted By: >>5498728

>>5498490
The Hazaar literally had rape as their main defense strategy. In the fucking space age. Their soldiers were literally professional rapists.

Edged Genesisist

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Edged Genesisist ID:rZIgfzk1 Fri 16 Dec 2022 02:04:48 No.5498554 Report

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All shall serve, with will or without. This is the Way of Hegemony.

I may be bad at what I do

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I may be bad at what I do ID:rZIgfzk1 Fri 16 Dec 2022 02:08:40 No.5498556 Report

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There is no message here.

Ex Morte Virilitas

Ex Morte Virilitas ID:rZIgfzk1 Fri 16 Dec 2022 02:14:33 No.5498559 Report

Quoted By:

All shall serve, with will or without. That is the way of Hegemony and the nature of the Supreme.

Ex Morte Virilitas

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Ex Morte Virilitas ID:rZIgfzk1 Fri 16 Dec 2022 02:19:48 No.5498568 Report

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All shall serve, with will or without. That is the way of Hegemony and the nature of the Supreme.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4Wvu6+l6 Fri 16 Dec 2022 04:35:20 No.5498724 Report

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y tho

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Fri 16 Dec 2022 04:42:05 No.5498728 Report

Quoted By: >>5498741

>>5498506
All nine billion of the people of Xin weren't rapists.

Sunshine for example never raped anyone.

And the children that were tortured to death sure as hell didn't rape anyone.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Fri 16 Dec 2022 05:06:08 No.5498741 Report

Quoted By: >>5498744 >>5498748

>>5498728
Want to blame someone? Blame the anons who made the blue hazaar. They were never going to assimilate fully. What they were, in part dictated who they were. Their creation was unnecessary.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Fri 16 Dec 2022 05:08:49 No.5498744 Report

Quoted By: >>5498792

>>5498741
>They were never going to assimilate fully
Where's your evidence that 99.999999999999% of them didn't assimilate fully?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Fri 16 Dec 2022 05:16:35 No.5498748 Report

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>>5498741
I'm going to blame (in-universe) the people who ordered and carried out the genocide and (out-of-universe) the people who voted for the death mask.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Fri 16 Dec 2022 06:24:00 No.5498792 Report

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>>5498744
Were you here for the part where Yuan decides that he hates the Jaxtians? The part with the propaganda?

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Fri 16 Dec 2022 06:28:18 No.5498795 Report

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While the donning of the Death-Mask is a massive event for your history, there may be another way to hallmark the beginning of this grand new era- your own death and resurrection. You often forget about how... special you are, truly, since that fateful day you were put into the machine. You are the only Jaxtian in history to undergo true and total brain death without possibility of resuscitation and yet came back to life. It's a huge event in the Hegemony's truest and most intimate goals- the defeat of death and entropy.

The name, also, fits the political landscape. Centuries of political stagnation uprooted all at once. The removal of one very old families, the Dulioans, from the inner circles of the Hegemonic elite. The first blonde Supreme Ruler, and many more. It's a brand new world. You will name this the Resurrection Era.

”My lord, the chronicle is finished.”
”Good, Cijan. I thank you for being such a trustworthy ally, especially given the tumultuous... start of our relationship. There are so few willing to show any initiative since the time of obedience began.”
”Thank you, my lord. Speaking of, I just wish to say that against all of our challenges in the recent years, you have risen to meet them.”
”Are you becoming a suck up too now?”
”No. I wish for you to read between the lines.”
”...Don't play games with me, Anak.”
”When our enemies amass their strength; you amass strength in return. When our enemies subvert our nations, you amass the ability to subvert their own. This is righteous and good, in all ways, that a Supreme should be. I merely add this observation; you charge in the enemy head on, when ways to strike them in how they are weak are being ignored.”
”I see. I'll accept your unsolicited advice. Anything else I should know about how I am butting heads with our rival powers like a stubborn Vetucker.”
”There is a third power, you know. The Aristocrats. It has been a very long time since we've heard from Farro Val. You are his relative, and I was his friend. Perhaps we should check in on his progress as well.”
”Ahh- that IS some good advice! Thank you Cijan. You are dismissed.”
”As you wish.”

Of course, you had almost forgotten! It had been many years since anyone has contacted the old captain- Farro Val, your uncle. He became a highly respected cultural liaison between the Jaxtian people and the Galactic Society of Aristocrats in exchange for the miraculous life machine. You decide to contact the GSA immediately.

The Aristocrats are not a collective but instead more of a loose confederation of extremely wealthy, immortal, and powerful elites. With biotechnology and advanced history and culture going back millennia, they are the most culturally and well developed of all of our neighbors.

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Fri 16 Dec 2022 06:29:19 No.5498797 Report

Quoted By: >>5499586

”Hello Ully'Andule, Child of Ten Stars. This is the Supreme Ruler of the Hegemony and Protector of the Jaxtian race- Wrix Val. I am very happy to speak with you. Though this may be the first time we have spoken, I assure you I represent the nobility of my office.”
“Ahh- the monkeys! And you are a blonde one too, just like my Farro. Welcome!”
”I trust the cultural exchange is going well?”
“Oh yes, that was the best! None in my circle of Elites has ever owned a Jaxtian before. You are a very unqiue people! Culturally rich and not at all obsessed with money- not like those absolute boorish Esaal or even worse the plebian Consortium species.”
”....Owned, a Jaxtian? It was my understand he was a cultural liason. A diplomat, if you will.”
“He is property, yes?”
”Well, technically, all Jaxtians belong and obey the Supreme Ruler. All serve the state, and the Supreme Ruler is the heart and mind of the state.”
“We are the same. Our serfs are property too. When the Consortium sought to buy a few of our least used worlds and moons- some of my contemporaries eradicated all of the host species to clean the place up for them. Same as I hear you have done in your space- housekeeping is what we Aristocrats call it!”
”How is Farro anyway? I know he must be getting quite old now- hopefully you have the technology to keep him alive? May I see him?”
“Oh of course! He's in the music room now. For me, the time just flies. It feels like only yesterday. For the first decade or so, I'd say, he was a great source of new material and inspiration. But once he ran out of Blonde ballads I was distraught- but we managed to work out a way for him to make great music even still!”
”And other elements of Jaxtian culture too, I hope.”
“Oh of course. Silly things like honor and romance which we have no need for- as well as history and games and all other sorts of things. I am very glad it just so happened to be myself who was situated closest to your curious species! But music is my truest passion, Farro knows that well.”
”I'd like to speak with him myself. No need for a private channel, you are a gracious host and I know he has no bad secrets to tell of you- at least I hope. Heh. That was a joke.”
“Hehe, the silly Wrix Val! I know what a joke is. Though he may not be in much mood to speak. I got tired of hearing his voice.”
”... What?”
“Oh, I'm sorry for my abrupt rudeness. I do quite like you Jaxtians, I just think your voices are a little.. hmm... grating. Farro was always going on and on with that screeching set of monkey vocal chords. I'll admit, heh, I got a little tired of it...”

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Fri 16 Dec 2022 06:30:19 No.5498798 Report

Quoted By: >>5498821 >>5498880 >>5499104 >>5499114 >>5499384

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Fri 16 Dec 2022 06:31:21 No.5498800 Report

...You don't want to do this anymore.

It is time to pick your successor. You ask Threes to list your three most qualified Supreme candidates, and it does so.

The first is your own son, Yino Val. He is an accomplished artist in many mediums, including surpassing the professional painters who make the Supreme portraits and other grand works of art. His most notable accomplishment is being chosen as the primary beautifier for Mann Yumm's Great City project; he is writing the algorithms for its decorative elements and aesthetic design. You naturally have the most experience with him first hand, and you know he'd be a good leader. While direct Father-Son successions are frowned upon in the office of Supreme Ruler, you know you won't go wrong with your own Son.

The second is Bantam Falathane. He is an Alpha-Male free from the slight loss of intelligence and high level thinking that plague those given the Vetucker genes, as such, he is qualified to become the Supreme Ruler. Bantam is a great knife fighter, though perhaps not the best duelist of all time, he has also been directly coached by Clok Garastra, one of your adolescent proteges. You have always admired Clok for his high level of understand of psychology, body language, combat arts, and nobility- but that's a Garastra for you. Bantam would make an excellent war leader in all aspects.

The third and final choice is the clone/son of Maktana II, Maktana Nanaone III. While he is an identical clone of Maktana II, he has been enhanced with a very special geneome treatment which gives him innate abilities over magnetism; taken from the alien Baalathi genome, if you can even call what the gas-bags have to be genetics. Maktana III is extremely intelligent, with a mind for science and empathetic thinking. His special abilities over magnetism are a bit underwhelming- they are unlikely to become part of the main Jaxtian genepool due to how complex the sequences are and how they have to be custom tuned for the individual- and even so he can only move around a few units worth of weight. After all, the nervous system of a Jaxtian doesn't actually produce that much electricity. Regardless, he has a great mind for science and will likely lead to many high tech advancements.

Which do you choose to become your successor?

>Yino Val
>Bantam Falathane
>Maktana Nanonae III

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DjRX7hh1 Fri 16 Dec 2022 06:43:29 No.5498814 Report

Quoted By: >>5499617 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845 >>5500043

>>5498800
>Maktana Nanonae III

Our empire is politically stable - now is the time for scientific advancement and colonial exploitation

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Fri 16 Dec 2022 06:43:33 No.5498815 Report

Quoted By: >>5499617 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845

>>5498800
>Maktana III
He has superpowers, is empathetic and is a supergenius.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Fri 16 Dec 2022 06:52:13 No.5498821 Report

Quoted By: >>5498849 >>5498877 >>5499021 >>5499617 >>5499626 >>5499810 >>5499845

>>5498800
>Yino Val
>Maktana Nanonae III
I like both of these equally ;__;

>>5498798
ok can we genocide these guys instead

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Fri 16 Dec 2022 07:01:08 No.5498829 Report

Quoted By: >>5499617 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845

>>5498800
Looks like Bantam has become everything we wanted Agori to be back when we selected him, rather then everything Agori ended up as. If we were gearing up specifically to fight an inevitable war with our neighbours, I'd definitely go with him.

...But we ended Consortium infiltration, the Esaal are now thinking better of us, and there's still untamed space toward the Galactic rim; whilst our biggest potential threat is the 'unknown' that the Cyte represents. Pushing into unclaimed space for 'free' conquests makes more sense whilst that option is still open to us. And who better to lead that push into the new unknown then:
>Maktana Nanonae III

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:9iqwhba0 Fri 16 Dec 2022 07:06:33 No.5498834 Report

Quoted By: >>5499283 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845

>>5498800
>>Yino Val

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Buc70O7K Fri 16 Dec 2022 07:22:39 No.5498843 Report

Quoted By: >>5499617 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845

>>5498800
>>Maktana Nanonae III

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Fri 16 Dec 2022 07:26:30 No.5498846 Report

Quoted By: >>5499617 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845 >>5500045

>>5498800

>Yino Val

This is what is needed: soul.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Fri 16 Dec 2022 07:31:08 No.5498849 Report

Quoted By: >>5499617 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845

>>5498821
Perhaps eventually, but right now I don't think we can afford getting even more enemies. They might even be something of an ally.

>>5498800
>Maktana Nanonae III

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Y1UTsiJY Fri 16 Dec 2022 07:33:01 No.5498851 Report

Quoted By: >>5499617 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845

>>5498800
>Maktana Nanonae III

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:wjF7/I+i Fri 16 Dec 2022 08:16:39 No.5498867 Report

Quoted By: >>5499617 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845 >>5500043 >>5500071

>>5498800
>Yino Val

I can very much see Wrix subconsciously shooting for a dynasty.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Fri 16 Dec 2022 08:23:49 No.5498870 Report

Quoted By: >>5499617 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845

>>5498800
>Maktana Nanonae III
Maktanas are great.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Fri 16 Dec 2022 08:39:12 No.5498877 Report

Quoted By: >>5498880 >>5498889

>>5498821
We basically ARE these guys. There is a reason we are close allies

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:nQm68X/2 Fri 16 Dec 2022 08:40:24 No.5498878 Report

Quoted By: >>5498880 >>5498991

>Anons seethe when we aren't prepared for the Three (now four) front war
>Zero votes for tge next War leader
lol. Lmao even.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Fri 16 Dec 2022 08:50:13 No.5498880 Report

Quoted By: >>5498890 >>5498894 >>5499617 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845

>>5498798
Change of plans, we invade and rescue Fallo after dealing with the Esaals, no living being should be toyed like this.
>>5498800
>Bantam Falathane
I know he won't win but we need to go to militarize sooner or later. Maktana and Yino would be better as overseers while we do our military build up for the comming Esaal war and the Expedition against the Aristocracy.
>>5498878
>1 post by this ID
>>5498877
We aren't allies, you baboon, we let Fallo stay after we got more or less captured by the pink Hazaar. And we aren't them, we torture and all that but we never destroyed somebody in such a way, not even when we had the chance to with Yuan.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:txZ/TtMq Fri 16 Dec 2022 08:52:26 No.5498883 Report

Quoted By: >>5499617 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845

>>5498800
>Bantam Falathane

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Fri 16 Dec 2022 09:03:44 No.5498889 Report

Quoted By: >>5499005

>>5498877
>We basically ARE these guys
Fuck you, no we're not. We're evil Muh Utiliarianism pragmatist space Nazis. They are immortal degenerate hedonists with a completely warped, inhuman (inmonke) morality scheme. They're basically Space High Elves. And you know what to do around elves, folks.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Fri 16 Dec 2022 09:04:39 No.5498890 Report

Quoted By: >>5498904

>>5498880
The scene for deliberately playing up the comparisons between the modern Hegemony and Consortium, a "what have I become" type of deal. It's why you have this total monster smiling and chumming it up with Wrix as a kindred spirit.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Fri 16 Dec 2022 09:06:37 No.5498894 Report

Quoted By: >>5498904

>>5498880
>no living being should be toyed like this.
Anon, our leader proudly defending torturing children. Our government is very much cool with doing stuff like this. Wrix is just upset when it happens to people he personally cares about. (Which he said in his speech.)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Fri 16 Dec 2022 09:12:50 No.5498897 Report

Quoted By: >>5498904 >>5499071 >>5499079 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845

>>5498800
Bantam Falathane is who I want for the sake of any possible tomfuckery with the worms, esaal, and/or other associated fucks. But since he's probably not gonna win:
>Maktana Nanonae III
I was tempted to go with Yino Val sovl too but c'mon, magic superpowers.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Fri 16 Dec 2022 09:24:06 No.5498904 Report

Quoted By: >>5498906 >>5499095

>>5498890
>The scene for deliberately playing up the comparisons between the modern Hegemony and Consortium
It's the Aristocrats that we talked with, not the Consortium, and there's no "what have I become" type of deal here, we were always a totalitarian brutal regime, but unlike them we never brutalized somebody into being an instrument for the luxury of it.
>>5498894
>our leader proudly defending torturing children.
That's a cope and you know it, Wrix repetedly though how taxing it was for himself too to wear that mask. To compare Wrix with and Andule is like comparing apples and oranges, both are brutal autocrats but he did what he did out of pleasure and with a smile on his face while our guy lost sleep over it, now stop slurping aristocrat cum you demoralized morally relativistic bonobo.
>>5498897
>But since he's probably not gonna win
That mentality is a problem, you want an option to win, you vote for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Fri 16 Dec 2022 09:27:35 No.5498906 Report

Quoted By:

>>5498904
I suppose so, but I also agree with the fact that the Consortium spies have fucked off and the Esaal have been in a pretty solid "damn okay" mind towards us. I just think Maktana Nanonae III's powers are funnier.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Fri 16 Dec 2022 12:08:22 No.5498988 Report

Quoted By: >>5499617 >>5499630 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845

>>5498800
>Maktana Nanonae III
Monkeygneto

I really would have preferred Bantham, but it's pretty obvious he's not going to win. At least he can become the head of our military, i suppose.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Fri 16 Dec 2022 12:11:06 No.5498991 Report

Quoted By:

>>5498878
I *wish* bantham would have won, but for some reason people didn't like him, and i'd rather the Magneto monkey win over Val.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Fri 16 Dec 2022 12:22:28 No.5499005 Report

Quoted By: >>5499617 >>5499630 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845

>>5498889
>Maktana Nanonae III
More like Dark Elves, really

And this really just shows how much the hazaar suck, and have sucked in any form they exist. They were horrible as ancapistanis, they are horrible as nobles, they were horrible as high-ranked people of the hegemony...

Honestly, Xenophobia becomes a lot more rational when every single fucking race sucks. Literally the only three races we have ever met *aren't* horrible, and one of them is a literal fish.

The other two are dead.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:C+28kb2C Fri 16 Dec 2022 12:38:33 No.5499019 Report

Quoted By: >>5499617 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845

>>5498800
>Maktana Nanonae III

I'd like to benefit from the political stability we bought with the purge, and it's been heavily implied that the Essal will be off our ass for a long while if not forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JhLTsls6 Fri 16 Dec 2022 12:40:23 No.5499021 Report

Quoted By: >>5499197 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845 >>5500043

>>5498800
>Yino Val
It might be frowned upon, but thankfully the public opinions don't concern us.
>>5498821
>ok can we genocide these guys instead
When the time is right.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Q+e1BN9n Fri 16 Dec 2022 13:09:18 No.5499050 Report

Quoted By: >>5499617 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845

>>5498800
>Bantam Falathane

At least we let people die, the Aristocrats are genuinely disturbing

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Fri 16 Dec 2022 13:18:16 No.5499057 Report

Quoted By: >>5499617 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499872

Okay, you know what, whatever, it's not like we can't use them regardless, i'll just vote for the one i actually want
>Bantam Falathane

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+DnQ83vY Fri 16 Dec 2022 13:32:29 No.5499064 Report

Quoted By: >>5499617 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845

>>5498800
>Bantam Falathane
We are going to war. No more niceties with xenos.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Fri 16 Dec 2022 13:39:17 No.5499071 Report

Quoted By: >>5499077 >>5499079

>>5498897
So, are you going to change your vote

If people who want to vote for bantam changed, he might have a chance of winning.

This is also logical, as it allows Maktana to spend all his time on science instead of ruler stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Js291ESK Fri 16 Dec 2022 13:50:36 No.5499077 Report

Quoted By: >>5499078

>>5499071
with that arguments we never really had scientist leader, and i want to see what it does.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Fri 16 Dec 2022 13:56:55 No.5499078 Report

Quoted By: >>5499104

>>5499077
We have, though?

Vantix, the Original, pretty much only became supreme because he wanted to make the Star Dynamo and leave Jaxt so much he agreed to the previous supreme's plan of entombing him in the way he wanted so he could become Helper.

In fact, turning an scientist into a supreme would probably be a waste of his potential. Instead of fully dedicating himself to science, he'd just have to tell other people to do it...which, you know, anyone can do.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Fri 16 Dec 2022 13:57:54 No.5499079 Report

Quoted By: >>5499617 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499826 >>5499845

>>5499071
>>5498897
Changing my vote to Bantam Falathane, then.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Fri 16 Dec 2022 14:32:37 No.5499095 Report

Quoted By:

>>5498904
You misunderstand me. I am saying that the Aristocrats are evil and that the Hegemony has sunken to their level. Being confronted with that being the last straw that got him to quit

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 16 Dec 2022 14:44:05 No.5499104 Report

Quoted By: >>5499106 >>5499617 >>5499810 >>5499845

>>5497203
>Clok taught Threes the Leraay tells
>could’ve gotten a the Spy-Purge as a free action, clearing it up for actual research options
Knew it.

>>5497207
>Year 22- Spy campaign against the Esaal finishes as the Threemind is turned on for the first time.
>Year 23- The Last Leraay spy is removed.
>Deep-State.exe only took a year to fully implement

Also, keep the name Swallia for the planet. We do not hide our history, but wear it proudly.

>>5498798
…*sigh*…
…can we get the Consortium to steal him back? Like, via a Red Huzzar or something? I don’t want to lose our only ally here, but fuck me, that’s just horrific.

>>5498800
>Yino Val
or
>Bantam Falathane

Let’s not kid ourselves, Maktana is our scienceboi. However, I can be convinced if there’s something special that’ll happen if Nanaone becomes Supreme again.

I will say, if we choose Bantam, have him make a vow to double Hegemony space, and have him war the Consortium immediately. We should have the military edge to win.

>>5499078
I think you misunderstand the Maktana vote. It’s not about wasting his potential, but about getting an empathetic Monke as the Supreme Rule. For the first time in many Supremes, we can get a someone that’ll actually rule with a velvet glove. It’ll be just like the old days, before Vul and the Capsule Wars.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Fri 16 Dec 2022 14:48:23 No.5499106 Report

Quoted By: >>5499113

>>5499104
>I think you misunderstand the Maktana vote. It’s not about wasting his potential, but about getting an empathetic Monke as the Supreme Rule.
While i agree getting an empathetic ruler would be nice, the last thing we need is another Talacent to spare people who deserve it because he likes xenos.

If it wasn't for Talacent sparing the Hazaar, the Vetucker would still be around. The last thing we need is for Maktana to, i don't know, spare the fucking w*rms or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Fri 16 Dec 2022 15:03:55 No.5499113 Report

Quoted By: >>5499118

>>5499106
>If it wasn't for Talacent sparing the Hazaar, the Vetucker would still be around.
No, I'd it we're not for Wrix killing them all they would still be around. There were literally hundreds of votes between Talacent and Wrix. It was not a linear conclusion that not wiping out the mining colony was the reason why Wrix wiped out the Ventuckers.

Maktana has starsight, genius and empathy. A full on philosopher king type with a civilization that can't rebel against his enlightened choices.

Let the military minded folks serve in military positions, we don't need them running the whole thing. Agori would have made a far better general than Supreme.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Fri 16 Dec 2022 15:07:03 No.5499114 Report

Quoted By:

>>5498798
Are those his vocal chords?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Fri 16 Dec 2022 15:13:48 No.5499118 Report

Quoted By: >>5499120

>>5499113
>No, I'd it we're not for Wrix killing them all they would still be around.
No Hazaar = No Yuan = No Giant Crisis caused by Books = No Mask

>Maktana has starsight, genius and empathy.
No, he doesn't. You're confusing his magnetism abilities with starsight. Maktana doesn't have starsight, he's just got really low level magneto powers.

And again, the Maktanas are predisposed to liking xenos. Do you really want to end up being forced to spare the w*rms or the ar*stocrats?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Fri 16 Dec 2022 15:15:48 No.5499120 Report

Quoted By: >>5499166

>>5499118
By that logic voting for Eoba II is what led to then being killed because he is the one that conquered Ventuck anyway.

You just picking out Talacent because you personally are anti-Xeno.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Fri 16 Dec 2022 15:28:06 No.5499127 Report

Quoted By: >>5499144 >>5499616 >>5499617 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845

>>5498800
Maktana seems to be winning. I count 12 votes for him, 6 for each of the others. Personally, I prefer...

>Yino Val

But I'd accept Maktana readily. Even Bantam's not bad, but I think people are simply incensed by the awfulness of the Aristocrats which... Come on, guys, you had to have expected. They are a society of uber-elite hedonists from a species of caste-organzied bug-people with knife-dicks. Still, it's not like they want war with us, nor do the Esaal now, and we've JUST developed a fleet of superweapon-packing stealth cruisers. We don't immediately NEED a war-leader, and Bantam will make a fine right hand as his ancestor Eoba I was for Taalcent.

We need someone with a keen mind for understanding and integrating alternative views without additional unnecessary genocides.

Just my two cents. You do you, other anons.

Btw, Bananas, I've been checking on the thread once in a while, albeit skimming and ignoring the debates in the comments, and I've been really appreciating the direction it's gone this last week. Good work, and thank you for running.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:icgyBj4U Fri 16 Dec 2022 15:31:17 No.5499131 Report

Quoted By: >>5499617 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845

>>5498800
>Bantam Falathane

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Fri 16 Dec 2022 15:46:58 No.5499144 Report

Quoted By: >>5499215

>>5499127
>We need someone with a keen mind for understanding and integrating alternative views without additional unnecessary genocides.
Personally, i disagree

Yino Val might end up going too hard the opposite way of his father. More than that, he doesn't really have any particular supreme skills. Art is nice and all, but you can't exactly run an empire on that.

Maktana isn't bad, but making him a supreme means he'd have to spend a whole lot of time on administrative duties that otherwise could have been spent in using his mind for research.

Bantam's a good choice because, even if we don't immediately go to war with the esaal (though we eventually will), we still have the consortium and the Cyte (which we don't even really know about). There's no shortage of enemies for the hegemony, and even with stealth cruisers, we're still behind others in sheer power

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Fri 16 Dec 2022 16:08:55 No.5499166 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499120
We would have conquered the Ventuckers regardless of whom the Supreme Leader was because their planet is near us.
Talacent however went against our votes and spared the Red Hazaars, kickstarting everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:R0ecxphN Fri 16 Dec 2022 16:09:00 No.5499167 Report

Quoted By: >>5499617 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845

>Bantam Falathane
Backlinking >>5497230

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:mjyl7Msl Fri 16 Dec 2022 16:56:04 No.5499197 Report

Quoted By: >>5499617 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845

>>5498800
Actually, changing my vote >>5499021 to
>Bantam Falathane
backlink: >>5498377

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kSn8yYXC Fri 16 Dec 2022 17:04:34 No.5499208 Report

Quoted By: >>5499212 >>5499213 >>5499484

Man, the problem with these supreme candidates that we get that are like "he would be great in a war" is that it's difficult to predict if a war will ever happen. Everyone was so sure a war with the Esaal and/or Consortium was imminent when Wrix started, but we got through his entire rule with only a couple skirmishes.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:mjyl7Msl Fri 16 Dec 2022 17:07:54 No.5499212 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499208
We can always help the war happen if we feel like it. It's not like there won't be an opportune moment to strike for the next few decades the next Supreme will be in power.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Fri 16 Dec 2022 17:08:15 No.5499213 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499208
War IS, in fact, certain to be happening at some point soon

Our duel managed to hold it off, but the cyte is still going to arrive at some point, the consortium is still a threat, and the esaal WILL go to war with us eventually, due to their nature as an stratrocracy.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:CEfRa7iQ Fri 16 Dec 2022 17:09:24 No.5499215 Report

Quoted By: >>5499221

>>5499144
I personally am tired of it being war war war genocide fight fight fight all the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:CEfRa7iQ Fri 16 Dec 2022 17:09:59 No.5499216 Report

Quoted By: >>5499617 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845

>Maktana III

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:B7jzcpCm Fri 16 Dec 2022 17:10:28 No.5499217 Report

Quoted By: >>5499617 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845

>>5498800
>Bantam Falathane
Yino is cool but father to son succession is something I'd rather avoid

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Fri 16 Dec 2022 17:14:57 No.5499221 Report

Quoted By: >>5499222

>>5499215
We haven't ever actually had an war, though?

It's been all social issue social issue social issue with some minor administration here and there.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:CEfRa7iQ Fri 16 Dec 2022 17:19:27 No.5499222 Report

Quoted By: >>5499225

>>5499221
Counting down from the tail end of Wrix's reign we had
>An attack on the Esaal
>Multiple Genocides
>An attempted coup
>A conquest and genocide of two species and and an engagement with the Esaal

The game has been pretty militancy focused for quite some time.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Fri 16 Dec 2022 17:22:24 No.5499225 Report

Quoted By: >>5499233

>>5499222
>Attack on the Esaal
You mean a raid so minor that the duel got more attention than it? We haven't had a single battle since Cijan.
>Multiple Genocides
Genocides aren't military, they're social.
>An attempted coup
Or, more specifically, a bunch of people get shanked. That's the coup.

We had a bunch of death, yes, but the only acutally military stuff we've done was the reconquista, and even that was more of an special operation as opposed to full on planet-invasion war.

Arthur N. C.

Arthur N. C. ID:rZIgfzk1 Fri 16 Dec 2022 17:35:52 No.5499232 Report

Quoted By: >>5499257

If we wanted peace with our neighbors, here is my proposal:

The Essal: Tell them that we are bored without people to kill, but also not interested in expanding our borders at the moment, and offer them an exchange of starmaps and and a defensive alliance, and/or a mutually agreed border zone to send the young warriors from our empires to engage in a flower war and earn themselves glory and military expirience.

The Consortium: Send a trade ship with a little bit of azurium, bag, various foodstuffs, and cultural knicknacks into their space to investigate their markets. See what they are selling and what they are buying. Maybe they'll have some strategic resource on the market. Harder to war with us if they are trading with us.

Aristocrats - Ignore them.

The Seekers - Get the starseekers together to try and project their combined psychic consciousness to look for the Seekers (dangerous).

The Worm - We hates them. No peace with the Worms directly.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:CEfRa7iQ Fri 16 Dec 2022 17:36:17 No.5499233 Report

Quoted By: >>5499241

>>5499225
We literally invaded multiple planets. How was that not a "planet invasion war"

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Fri 16 Dec 2022 17:41:43 No.5499241 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499233
Because they were basically completely unprotected?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:CEfRa7iQ Fri 16 Dec 2022 17:43:55 No.5499244 Report

Quoted By: >>5499247

Invading a place bombing it and conquering it is a war, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Fri 16 Dec 2022 17:45:08 No.5499247 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499244
Taking over some barely alive, barely armed stragglers in some vaults can hardly be considered a battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Fri 16 Dec 2022 17:53:02 No.5499257 Report

Quoted By: >>5499261

>>5499232
>If we wanted peace with our neighbors
Lol, no. We are destined to fight the Esaals considering both of our nations and I want to exterminate eveery single Aristocrat in existance and show the galaxy their crimes against life. The closest thing to a peace with the Consortium that would be good for us is if we can convince some of their species to work with us to kill their Worms and the Seekers are fine for now.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Fri 16 Dec 2022 17:57:21 No.5499261 Report

Quoted By: >>5499263 >>5499268

>>5499257
In what way are the Aristocrats worse than the Hegemony, vis a vis "crimes against life"?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Fri 16 Dec 2022 18:00:55 No.5499263 Report

Quoted By: >>5499301 >>5499331

>>5499261
While Wrix is an edgy retard, the Hegemony is supposed to be pragmatic, whereas the Aristocrats are purposefully evil because of their degeneracy. They're basically pre-fall aeldari from 40k.

I mean, he literally turned a man into a 'i have no mouth and i must sing' abomination. For amusement.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Fri 16 Dec 2022 18:02:57 No.5499268 Report

Quoted By: >>5499301 >>5499331

>>5499261
We have tortured and killed billions but we have never made someone into a plaything to suffer forever for our pleasure, even Wrix lost sleep because of what he did but that pink Hazaar was smiling as he played Farro like an ukulele. It's bloody intuitive too.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qMKUZkE7 Fri 16 Dec 2022 18:32:01 No.5499281 Report

Quoted By:

>>5498800
>Yino Val

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:9iqwhba0 Fri 16 Dec 2022 18:32:54 No.5499283 Report

Quoted By: >>5499617 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499826 >>5499845

>>5498800
Switching my vote >>5498834 to
>Bantam Falathane

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bnD/qJiD Fri 16 Dec 2022 18:47:51 No.5499290 Report

Quoted By: >>5499292 >>5499328 >>5499606

>>5498800
I wonder if we could find a way to make the magnetism stronger. Maybe starsight? Advanced starsight users like worms seem to be able to influence technology.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bnD/qJiD Fri 16 Dec 2022 18:49:43 No.5499292 Report

Quoted By: >>5499617 >>5499810 >>5499845 >>5500043

>>5499290
Forgot to add that my vote goes to Bantam

I want an non-insane alpha. Too bad its not an vetucker alpha...i know they're dumber now, but an giga alpha supreme would have been cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qMKUZkE7 Fri 16 Dec 2022 19:01:32 No.5499300 Report

Quoted By: >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845

>>5498800
>Bantam Falathane

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:CEfRa7iQ Fri 16 Dec 2022 19:01:49 No.5499301 Report

Quoted By: >>5499307

>>5499263
>>5499268
>"I killed billions of innocent people in purposefully painful ways, but I felt bad about it so I am better ethically "
Is a shit justification

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Fri 16 Dec 2022 19:08:33 No.5499307 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499301
No, it's
>"I killed billions of people because of evil but ultimately practical reasons (Except for the Vetucker), but at least i'm not an hedonistic psycho who give people fates worse than death for my amusement while i smile about it"

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:EAchPO3w Fri 16 Dec 2022 19:11:30 No.5499309 Report

Quoted By: >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845

>>5498800
>Yino Val

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Fri 16 Dec 2022 19:27:05 No.5499321 Report

Quoted By: >>5499329 >>5499617 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845

>>5498800
>Maktana

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Fri 16 Dec 2022 19:36:37 No.5499328 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499290
Magneto Jedi seems pretty cool

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Fri 16 Dec 2022 19:37:38 No.5499329 Report

Quoted By: >>5499617 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845

>>5499321
>Maktana III
If the votes put Mak in third I will switch it to Yino

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Fri 16 Dec 2022 19:42:49 No.5499331 Report

Quoted By: >>5499334 >>5499346 >>5499443

>>5499263
>>5499268

They're not purposefully evil. They just value to the ever-expanding experience and enjoyment of their immortal elites over the ephemeral and temporary happiness of lesser organisms with simpler minds, shorter lifespans, and less value to their social model. It's literally the basis behind the unquestionably-supreme leadership of the Hegemony getting access to true history, unlimited resources, all the females they can rape, and all the babies they can justify torturing. The Hegemony treats it as the ultimately freedom/responsibility to abusively execute even loyal subordinates to maintain order ot to test ones'mettle for leadership positions. They're no less evil, they just have less fun while being evil, and spend more effort explaining why it's actually a good thing.

Sometimes, as with Masked Wrix and Akule, they even smile.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Fri 16 Dec 2022 19:48:30 No.5499334 Report

Quoted By: >>5499343 >>5499453

>>5499331
Yeah, no, that's retarded

There's a difference between being extreme utilitarian supremacists. Wrix did act like an edgy retard, but he's ONE supreme, and while it's still evil, his reasoning of strenghtening the hegemony is right - see Swallia, for example.

The Aristocrats aren't adding anything. They're just hedonists. They do it because of pleasure. Sure, we kill innocent people, but we don't turn them into fucking instruments. Stop trying to force some retarded 'we are le same!' point

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:vnEz/PHq Fri 16 Dec 2022 19:53:58 No.5499337 Report

Quoted By: >>5499617 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845

>>5498800
>Bantam Falathane
War is coming and we need to be prepared. Hopefully this will go better than the last time we had an Alpha as a Supreme Leader.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Fri 16 Dec 2022 20:03:32 No.5499343 Report

Quoted By: >>5499354 >>5499355 >>5499356

>>5499334
It isn't just Wrix. Remember Kima's test? Remember Akule's founding genocides? The Hegemony and the Aristocrats aren't identical, but neither is good. They're just differently amoral, and have different values.

The Hegemony values ethnic and cultural purity, environmentalism, industrial productivity, and hierarchical order, and will do awful things with a smile in pursuit of those. The artistocrats value many of the same principles, but consider the enjoyment of their supreme-most members more important than things like native bisopheres, industry, or the dsily lives of the proles.

It's just a shift from "honour" and "the greatest good of the Jaxtian race" to "experience" and "the greater good of the Aristocrat class".

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Fri 16 Dec 2022 20:03:49 No.5499346 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499331
The Hegemony's raison d'etre is defeating entropy, the Aristocrats' raison d'etre is jerking off to whatever tickles them funny before they get bored and seek their next pleasure. They are as far away from one another as oranges and apples, both have commited genocides, but we haven't been so degenerate as to derive pleasure from our dark deeds. We are indeed moraly better because we feel bad for our actions.
Also, it's bloody INTUITIVE that they are worse, they made a sentient being immortal and then turned him into a musical instrument, that's beyond whatever reasonable link you may conjure to equate their deeds to ours.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Fri 16 Dec 2022 20:10:11 No.5499354 Report

Quoted By: >>5499367

>>5499343
>It's just a shift from "honour" and "the greatest good of the Jaxtian race" to "experience" and "the greater good of the Aristocrat class".
Okay, and some of those things are worse than other things. Get your head out of your ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Fri 16 Dec 2022 20:10:36 No.5499355 Report

Quoted By: >>5499367

>>5499343
>Remember Kima's test?
You mean the utilitarian test? They didn't tell her to kill her just because, but because of some retarded but still real gain.
>Remember Akule's founding genocides?
What a surprise, the original Wrix was genocided.
> The Hegemony and the Aristocrats aren't identical, but neither is good.
They are not the same tier of evil. There isn't a single 'good' civilization in this galaxy. All of them are fucked up, one way or another. The Aristocrats, however, are the most fucked up of all, because they're just complete hedonist degenerates.

>It's just a shift from "honour" and "the greatest good of the Jaxtian race" to "experience" and "the greater good of the Aristocrat class".
That is to say, the reasons of the jaxtians are objectively better than those of the aristocrats. Moral relativism is retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Fri 16 Dec 2022 20:10:38 No.5499356 Report

Quoted By: >>5499367

>>5499343
>and will do awful things with a smile in pursuit of those.
What smile? The Mask dulled Wrix's emotions, he never enjoyed what he did and is coping by reinforcing the "us vs them" mentality into himself, the Supreme Ruler test gave Hwat regrets, Akule was just mentally ill, where are the smile?
>The artistocrats value many of the same principles, but consider the enjoyment of their supreme-most members more important than things like native bisopheres, industry, or the dsily lives of the proles.
The two aren't relative and you are dishonest if you think that the former is equal with the latter.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:9q9AIuCB Fri 16 Dec 2022 20:20:03 No.5499361 Report

Quoted By: >>5499617 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845

>>5498800
>Bantam Falathane

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Fri 16 Dec 2022 20:25:50 No.5499367 Report

Quoted By: >>5499372 >>5499380 >>5499387

>>5499354
Subjectively. The Hegemony's definition of honour is, in my opinion, too dishonourable much of the time to be worth defending. I no more value blue monkeys than pink bug people, so their in-group moral focus means nothing to me in either society's case.

>>5499355
You, subjectively, consider race-loyalty more important than class loyalty. To that I'd note that the Aristocrats are pretty much their own rac anyway. You also seem to just prefer stoicism and emotional repression to open enjoyment; I personally don't think it matters morally if you enjoy or do not enjoy doing bad things, if you're doing the same bad things.

You can call it retarded. I think you're just wrong and making moral judgements based on instinctuve disgust rather than reason. We are unlikely to convince each other. It's a matter of intuitive political temperament.

>>5499356
He kept Yuan's dick in a jar and gave cackling speeches about his racial victory to it from his throne, but okay.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Fri 16 Dec 2022 20:28:17 No.5499372 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499367

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Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Fri 16 Dec 2022 20:34:56 No.5499380 Report

Quoted By: >>5499737

>>5499367
>You, subjectively, consider race-loyalty more important than class loyalt
No, morality is objective, and hedonist retards are always bad.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:5SlUzQpT Fri 16 Dec 2022 20:39:26 No.5499384 Report

Quoted By: >>5499617 >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845

>>5498798
I gotta be honest QM, this was a really fucking good twist. I'm mostly a lurker but this was emotional punch to the gut. I expected him to be in chains or some shit... but not THIS.
>>5498800
>Yino Val

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SutCMfzI Fri 16 Dec 2022 20:45:38 No.5499387 Report

Quoted By: >>5499401

>>5499367
Moral relativism is wrong and Wrix didn't make Yuan a consciouss instrument.
You are dishonest if you claim to lack the intuitive repulsion to the crimes against nature that the Aristocrats commit.
They have the power to make Yuan's dream of an orgasm-based existence possible and they choose not to, they are depraved degenerates and the more evil than the Worms.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Fri 16 Dec 2022 21:02:54 No.5499401 Report

Quoted By: >>5499402 >>5499419

>>5499387
I didn’t say I don't find the Aristocrats repulsive. I just don't consider them objectively worse than torturing babies to death while their parents (loyal citizens, mostly, who we made, used as indentured servants, promised a place to live, then reneged on) watch.

Both are awful acts. One lasts longer and affects a very small nu.ber of individuals. One is faster, but was inflicted indiscrimately upon billions. One was done while giving moralizing speeches and with an air of solemn necessity. One was done happily and without apology, with the honest rationale of "I am an immortal techno-sorcerer and my continuity and happiness matters more than yours."

Why does any of this matter? Because, if the 'Crats aren't "objectively evil", there's no reason to select a war-leader and launch a crusade because they suvjected one monke to a musical rendition of "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream."

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Fri 16 Dec 2022 21:08:12 No.5499402 Report

Quoted By: >>5499437

>>5499401
They are, in fact, worse

While it is evil, there is ultimately a benefit - swallia will become a home for jaxtians and vetuck will become a world of the bioindustries.

There is literally no benefit to turning farro into an instrument other than their fucked up pleasure. And this is just ONE of the aristocrats, we don't even know what the others do.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Fri 16 Dec 2022 21:20:18 No.5499419 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499401
The trouble is, the Aristocrats seem to be the local 'fallen Empire'. Stagnant and indolent, caring only for themselves and their own pleasures; but with the tech base and power to utterly sweep us from the stars if they ever saw an actual reason to bother.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Fri 16 Dec 2022 21:43:09 No.5499437 Report

Quoted By: >>5499442 >>5499444

>>5499402
Stated benefits of the Hegemony's evil:
>sentimentality is bad, so leaders need to be taught a lesson in ruthlessness
>supremacy is necessary, so lessers must be intimidated into obedience
>killing enemies makes monkes strong and proud, which feels nice
>taking territory means more monkes get to experience the pleasures of good food and parenthood
This isn't less pleasure-focused than the Aristos. It is just focused on different drives, different pleasures. You just find their pleasures gross. Me too, but that's a subejctive and emotional argument.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Fri 16 Dec 2022 21:46:51 No.5499439 Report

Quoted By:

Wanting to go to war with the Aristocrats is stupid, they are not hostile and are technologically superior so it's both pointless and dangerous.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Fri 16 Dec 2022 21:47:53 No.5499442 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499437
>hurr durr wanting to expand your civilization is the same as turning people into living instruments, they're just different goals!!!!
the absolute state of moral relativists

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rSr6YqPO Fri 16 Dec 2022 21:50:31 No.5499443 Report

Quoted By: >>5499517

>>5499331
In narrative terms the Aristocrats are a foil that shows the Hegemony's worst aspects drawn to it's extreme.

As far back as when we first contacted them it was said our shared values of supremacy and aristocracy made them suitable to contact, they saw us as kindred .

In fact I think most of our neighbors reflect aspects of Hegemony society. Essentially paths we could go down.

The Esaal share the martial military honor system. The Seekers the starsight aspect.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:mjyl7Msl Fri 16 Dec 2022 21:51:02 No.5499444 Report

Quoted By: >>5499465 >>5499469

>>5499437
>incomprehensible cruelty for no reason other than your fucked up amusement is better than committing evil for what you perceive to be the greater good

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:YgAqQe6B Fri 16 Dec 2022 22:05:59 No.5499453 Report

Quoted By: >>5499458

>>5499334
Killing 9 billion loyal citizens who were the entire workforce of one of our core worlds did not "strengthen the Hegemony."

It would be like the President nuking Hawaii to prove a point.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Fri 16 Dec 2022 22:12:40 No.5499458 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499453
The Hazaar are more trouble than they're worth, they were occupying more planets than the damn jaxtians.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:N6hX2kNS Fri 16 Dec 2022 22:21:18 No.5499465 Report

Quoted By: >>5499466 >>5499468 >>5499479

>>5499444
They aren't better. That's the point. They aren't worse either. At the end of the day the personal motive of the person doing the mass murder matters way less than the actual murdered people.

Impact >intentions.

Hitler wasn't a better person than Dahmer because Hitler killed for lebensraum and Dahmer killed for self gratification.

Shell Oil Wiping out an entire Nigerian village so they could tap their land for profit isn't more moral than John Wayne Gacy killing for fun.

The Hegemony will rape you because they value breeding people more than your consent. The Aristocrats will rape you because they value their pleasure more than your consent. At the end of the day you still were raped.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Fri 16 Dec 2022 22:22:56 No.5499466 Report

Quoted By: >>5499479

>>5499465
The difference is that the hegemony actually benefits people with their evil. Sure, they killed the hazaar, but now you had an entire planet that was fertilized by the corpses and now jaxtians have a whole lotta green space.

There is literally no greater benefit whatsoever from the aristocrats degeneracy.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:mjyl7Msl Fri 16 Dec 2022 22:27:19 No.5499468 Report

Quoted By: >>5499480

>>5499465
>They're the same
Except our shitter purge had benefits and the dead vetuckers aren't used as body horror instruments.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:wT7vtSnA Fri 16 Dec 2022 22:27:33 No.5499469 Report

Quoted By: >>5499472 >>5499485

>>5499444
Occupying? The Hegemony bred and put them there?
It's not "utilitarian" or "logical" to kill 9 billion of your own workers because they share a species with someone who attacked the Hegemony.

That makes as much sense as blowing up our own shipyards because brain damaged Baalthi killed the Supreme hundreds of years ago. Or killing ever Engineer on Jaxt because Ingar went rouge. Or destroy all of our AI because of Helper.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:wT7vtSnA Fri 16 Dec 2022 22:28:24 No.5499472 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499469
Missed a line in the middle to say

"It wasn't just ethically wrong it was practically wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:YWswBOwi Fri 16 Dec 2022 22:31:12 No.5499479 Report

Quoted By: >>5499506

>>5499465
This anon gets it.

>>5499466
The Hegemony benefits some people (loyal Jaxtians with good breeding scores who don't think badwrongthought and aren't deemed more valuable as a "teachable moment" for a Supreme-tier teenager). They also seek to defeat entropy and preserve their form of life, in genetic and memetic continuity or via immortality.

The Aristocrats benefit some people (Aristocrats and favoured pets who recognize the primacy of space-feudalism). They also seek to defeat entropy by collecting and preserving all the universe's novelties and experiences in a smattering of immortal superbeings.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:wT7vtSnA Fri 16 Dec 2022 22:31:14 No.5499480 Report

Quoted By: >>5499485

>>5499468
Wrix valued slightly lower taxes for Jataxians over the lives of 9 billion of his own people.

That's not that different than valuing the pleasure you get from music over the live of a Monkey you don't even recognize as a person.

It's the 'one cent' philosophy that Kima (and us) rightfully pointed out was edgy nonsense.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:3P027osP Fri 16 Dec 2022 22:40:10 No.5499484 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499208
Remember when we voted for Cijan as the philosophical supreme who could best deal with Yuan? Good times, good times

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:mjyl7Msl Fri 16 Dec 2022 22:41:10 No.5499485 Report

Quoted By: >>5499488 >>5499499 >>5499527

>>5499469
>keeping 9 billions of low IQ xenos while there are Jaxtians cramped up on other planets, dreaming for an opportunity to migrate
Yeah sure. And since you're making this argument, point me to the exact part where genociding "our own workers" had negative impact on Hegemony. I must've missed it cause everything seems to be going just fine for us.
>>5499480
>He'd rather pay higher taxes than have the government genocide xenos to increase the wellbeing of his own species
Yikes.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:3P027osP Fri 16 Dec 2022 22:46:08 No.5499488 Report

Quoted By: >>5499503

>>5499485
>Muh taxes
Yep, you're thinking just like one of those aristocrats and are just too much of a retarded hypocrite to see it

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:YWswBOwi Fri 16 Dec 2022 22:54:08 No.5499499 Report

Quoted By: >>5499503

>>5499485
>xenos are inherently inferior, and their happiness and livelihood aren't worth considering
The Aristocrat agrees! :)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:mjyl7Msl Fri 16 Dec 2022 22:58:18 No.5499503 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499488
>>5499499
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:iJr8iWPR Fri 16 Dec 2022 23:01:02 No.5499506 Report

Quoted By: >>5499527

>>5499479
>there is literally no difference between wanting to improve your civilization and turning people into living torture devices for fun!

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rSr6YqPO Fri 16 Dec 2022 23:04:47 No.5499513 Report

Quoted By:

All this back and forth is making me wanting to see the essay more.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rSr6YqPO Fri 16 Dec 2022 23:06:03 No.5499517 Report

Quoted By: >>5499746 >>5499810 >>5499845 >>5500043

Maktana Neonane III

Backlink >>5499443

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:8TbBHBfO Fri 16 Dec 2022 23:13:39 No.5499527 Report

Quoted By: >>5499540 >>5499542 >>5499549

>>5499485
>>5499506
If the wellbeing of inferior creatures is strictly subordinate to the interests of me and mine, I fail to see how turning this kooky space alien into a funny instrument that pleases my auditory organs is somehow supposed to be wrong. On the contrary, I have elevated this unfortunate lesser lifeform by giving it a purpose that makes it beneficial not only myself, but to others as well, thereby defeating entropy by introducing both function and net value into this universe. Anons are simply jealous that the leaders on offer right now cannot approach this level of altruism and magnanimity!

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Fri 16 Dec 2022 23:26:11 No.5499540 Report

Quoted By: >>5499546 >>5499559

>>5499527
>Is somehow supposed to be wrong
It's degenerate hedonism. Hedonists are always wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kCVWVBDw Fri 16 Dec 2022 23:31:11 No.5499542 Report

Quoted By: >>5499548 >>5499568

>>5499527

Exactly. It's just protagonist centered morality. Wrix used people for fertilizer. The Artistocrat used people to make musical instruments. In both cases it was because they didn't see them as "people" but as property (BQM even spells this out ) things to be used .

Because we play as the Hegemony we naturally are led to sympathize, even if at the end of the day the actions aren't that different

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:8TbBHBfO Fri 16 Dec 2022 23:34:23 No.5499546 Report

Quoted By: >>5499553 >>5499554

>>5499540
There is no deity or transcendental law that enforces anything approaching "morality." That is simply an animal instinct that you have failed to evolve beyond. The underlying truth of this universe is that the only rules which exist are the ones imposed by the beings inhabiting it. Ergo, the harnessing of natural truths to enhance the life of the individual is not wrong, and to do otherwise is to impose a limit on oneself that is ultimately just self-gratification by a different vector.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Fri 16 Dec 2022 23:36:06 No.5499548 Report

Quoted By: >>5499552 >>5499558

>>5499542
Gee, you really love the taste of that knife, don't you? How much does the HIDF pay?

There is abso-fucking-lutely a difference between killing people to improve your race and turning people into literal fucking instruments solely for your personal pleasure

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:mjyl7Msl Fri 16 Dec 2022 23:37:02 No.5499549 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499527
Say what you want, but Vetucker bodies aren't mentally present while fertilizing the dirt.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Fri 16 Dec 2022 23:38:15 No.5499552 Report

Quoted By: >>5499555

>>5499548
>to improve your race
>solely for your personal pleasure
What's the difference between the two?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Fri 16 Dec 2022 23:38:19 No.5499553 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499546
How compelling

Please face the wall now

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Fri 16 Dec 2022 23:41:18 No.5499554 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499546

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Fri 16 Dec 2022 23:45:15 No.5499555 Report

Quoted By: >>5499557

>>5499552
We at least aren't gonna keep the motherfuckers stuck in a forever "I HAVE NO COCK AND I MUST SCREAM" torture body. If we followed through with turning Yuan into one, there might've been a point. But c'mon, we can't pretend there's even a faint hint of any good in what happened to Farro.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Fri 16 Dec 2022 23:51:12 No.5499557 Report

Quoted By: >>5499564

>>5499555
There's not even a faint hint of any good in what happened to Farro, no argument there.

But there's not even a faint hint of any good in what happened to the Vetuckers either. And you'd better bet that the only reason we didn't give Yuan an "I HAVE NO COCK AND I MUST SCREAM" torture body is that it was the last charge of the life machine and we wanted to give it to Bluey. If we had infinite use of it, like the aristocrats do, there's no way we'd have given him just a simple execution. It was a lack of means that stayed our hand, not any higher morality on our end.

What you don't seem to understand is that me and the other anons aren't saying that the aristocrats are good. They're horrifically evil just like you think, no one will disagree with that. What we're saying is that we're not really any better.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Fri 16 Dec 2022 23:51:53 No.5499558 Report

Quoted By: >>5499560

>>5499548
How did torturing children to death in front of their parents "improve the race?"

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Fri 16 Dec 2022 23:52:59 No.5499559 Report

Quoted By: >>5499560

>>5499540
If doing things for the sole pursuit of pleasure is inherently wrong, why are you in this thread. Monke quest has no value aside from entertainment. Participating in this thread is fundamentally hedonistic.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Fri 16 Dec 2022 23:56:17 No.5499560 Report

Quoted By: >>5499563 >>5499565

>>5499558
By freeing up space for jaxtians.

>>5499559
>Uhh but [statement not even close to idea of what hedonism means] gotcha!

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Fri 16 Dec 2022 23:58:30 No.5499563 Report

Quoted By: >>5499579

>>5499560
The Aristocrat made Uncle Val into a harp for fun.
You are in this thread for fun.

The issue isn't doing something for fun, it's harming innocents in the pursuit of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Fri 16 Dec 2022 23:58:37 No.5499564 Report

Quoted By: >>5499566 >>5499573 >>5499589

>>5499557
The difference here, you retard, is that we don't turn people into undying abominations.
>But we would ha-
We didnt, did we? Not to mention yuan actually deserves it for trying to cause a civil war.

Trying to act like somehow the retarded degenerate hedonism of the aristocrats is in any way possibly close to the hegemont's brutalistic utilitarianism is retarded and only make sense to an mentally disabled moral relativist.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Fri 16 Dec 2022 23:59:31 No.5499565 Report

Quoted By: >>5499579

>>5499560
Even if that was a valid argument, what value was gained specifically in torturing the kids to death and making their parents watch?

How did THAT benefit anyone aside from Wrix's mask induced sadism?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:01:03 No.5499566 Report

Quoted By: >>5499579

>>5499564
Why is an aristocrat torturing a Jataxian bad but Wrix torturing Blue Hazaar children good?

If you say it's because they are Blue Hazaar that exact same argument (they are a Xeno so they aren't a "person") applies to what the Aristocrat did .

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:02:30 No.5499568 Report

Quoted By: >>5499629

>>5499542
So how would you change this? By placing some inherent value on Jaxtian life, on putting value on a minimum standard of freedom for Jaxtians, by spelling out Jaxtian values and traditions and putting a value on upholding those values and traditions?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:07:01 No.5499573 Report

Quoted By: >>5499591 >>5499615

>>5499564
>we don't turn people into undying abominations.
The only reason we don't do it is because it's too costly. Can you say that we wouldn't do it if we had the aristocrats tech and economy?
>We didnt, did we?
>yuan actually deserves it
Thanks for proving my point, retard. The only difference between us and the aristocrats is that they are more advanced and therefore have more means in their disposal to be cruel. We absolutely would have turned Yuan into an undying abomination if there was no cost to it.
>retarded degenerate hedonism
>brutalistic utilitarianism
You are comparing the brutalistic utilitarianism of a caveman who needs to hunt for food to the retarded degenerate hedonism who just goes out and buys a steak. The morality is just the same. If I go on a spree killing with a knife and kill 3 people, I'm no better to someone who goes on a spree killing with a gun and kills twenty. The effectiveness of one's tools can't be considered when examining their morality. These are separate things.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:mjyl7Msl Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:08:06 No.5499574 Report

Quoted By:

Can someone tell me if that faggot screaming about torturing children while ignoring the entire reasoning and benefits from purging xenos count as strawmanning?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:10:02 No.5499577 Report

Quoted By:

Can someone tell me if that faggot screaming about using a monkey as a musical instrument while ignoring the entire reasoning and benefits from utilizing xenos count as strawmanning?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:10:56 No.5499579 Report

Quoted By: >>5499586

>>5499563
"Hedonism" isn't fun you buffoon, Hedonism is the search of pleasure above all. Turning living beings into conscious instruments is hedonist.

>>5499565
While the method was not the most efficient, it was still done to free up space. You just can't compare that to the fucked up stuff the aristocrat does, no matter how much you cope
>>5499566
What wrix did wasn't good you retarded mongoose, it was evil UTILITARIANISM, which is in no way comparable to cruel, unimaginably evil degenerate hedonism

You fuckers are trying to defend the Dark Eldar because "muh empire is bad too!!!"

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:15:00 No.5499586 Report

Quoted By: >>5499594

>>5499579
>it was still done to free up space. You just can't compare that to the fucked up stuff the aristocrat does, no matter how much you cope
>>5498797
>“We are the same. Our serfs are property too. When the Consortium sought to buy a few of our least used worlds and moons- some of my contemporaries eradicated all of the host species to clean the place up for them. Same as I hear you have done in your space- housekeeping is what we Aristocrats call it!”

>You fuckers are trying to defend the Dark Eldar because "muh empire is bad too!!!"
No you room-temperature mongoloid, no one is defending the aristocrats. YOU are defending the fucked up shit that the Jaxtians do because "muh aristocrats are worse even when they do literally the same thing."

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:15:31 No.5499589 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499564
Ah, neat, we're at THAT stage of a moral debate, where people just become belligerent assholes. Fun. I'll be back for next vote.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:15:45 No.5499591 Report

Quoted By: >>5499596 >>5499607 >>5499632

>>5499573
>Thanks for proving my point, retard
>You think that this traitor who tried to cause a civil war and was normally executed would deserve a bad fate! Umm, that is totally the same as turning a completely innocent hostage into an conscious instrument!!!
No, it's not, stop trying to fucking act like this is the same. it's not the same and it will NEVER be the same.
>You are comparing the brutalistic utilitarianism of a caveman who needs to hunt for food to the retarded degenerate hedonism who just goes out and buys a steak
Shut the fuck up and stop deepthroating knives for a second, then try to THINK, if you can, of how retarded that sounds. There is not a single fucking world where you can somehow equate this willfully, completely fucking unmotivated torture of farrow val to the genocide of a bunch of hazaar who were taking up more space than the species they were supposed to serve

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:18:15 No.5499594 Report

Quoted By: >>5499607

>>5499586
And what the fuck does the aristocrats genocide have to do with their instrument making activities?
>I'm not defending aristocrats, I'm just saying we are le same!!! You can't say the aristocrats are worse, that would be heccin unfair to the kabalite chest bursters!

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:6n8y0soF Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:19:36 No.5499596 Report

Quoted By: >>5499599

>>5499591
It wasn't unmotivated. Farro Val was mutated to preserve his utility to his master and its race.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:22:53 No.5499599 Report

Quoted By: >>5499604

>>5499596
And that is an degenerate hedonistic excuse.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:YBdQQ20V Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:25:20 No.5499604 Report

Quoted By: >>5499607

>>5499599
It's why we killed the Vetuckers: it made the Hegemony's master and his race happier to have better food and more kids.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:26:12 No.5499606 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499290
More energy. Jaxian don’t have enough bio-energy, so we need one that produces more.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:26:36 No.5499607 Report

Quoted By: >>5499618

>>5499591
>No, it's not, stop trying to fucking act like this is the same. it's not the same and it will NEVER be the same.
Soooo, turning Yuan into an undying abomination for our own amusement is good, turning Farro into an undying abomination for the aristocrat's amusement is evil. Gotcha. Completely consistent and not hypocritical at all.
>There is not a single fucking world where you can somehow equate this willfully, completely fucking unmotivated torture of farrow val to the genocide of a bunch of hazaar who were taking up more space than the species they were supposed to serve
No, I'm equating the genocide of a bunch of hazaar who were taking up more space than the species they were supposed to serve to the genocide of a bunch of serfs who were taking up more space than the species they were supposed to serve. What's the difference between the Hegemony clearing a few planets and the aristocrats clearing a few planets.

I am also comparing the torture of Farro Val to the torture of Yuan. What's the difference between what the aristocrat did to Farro and what we would have done to Yuan if our life machine had infinite charges, like the aristocrat's machines do?

>completely fucking unmotivated
Just because you disagree with the motive, it doesn't mean that it was unmotivated. No one does shit without a motive and no one considers themselves the villain. You are simply too stupid to see things in anything more than pure black and white, us=good, them=bad simplistic terms

>>5499594
>And what the fuck does the aristocrats genocide have to do with their instrument making activities?
Come on anon, you can't possibly be this retarded. You said our killing of the hazaar and vetuckians was justified because it was done to free up space. Is that not the exact same thing that they did to their serfs?
>You can't say the aristocrats are worse, that would be heccin unfair to the kabalite chest bursters!
How exactly are worse, you retard? What ACTION have they taken that we wouldn't have taken if we were in their place, with infinite resources, hyperdvanced tech and no threats?

>>5499604
Don't forget about the lower taxes! Anon went on a whole rant on why it was justified because it lowered taxes.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:29:40 No.5499610 Report

Quoted By: >>5499612 >>5499616 >>5499617 >>5499665

okay this is just gonna be people yelling at each other ad infinitum i'm just gonna tally the votes for my own amusement

>YINO VAL
2 votes for either him or someone else, 5 otherwise (I think)
>Bantam
15 for him, 1 for him or someone else
>MAKTANA
1 for him or someone else, 9 otherwise

I could be missing some because of people changing their votes but it seems like Bantam has the biggest lead out of all of them if I counted even kinda close

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:29:55 No.5499611 Report

Quoted By: >>5499612

Alright anons, simmer down. We all have strong opinions on this subject, no need to regurgitate what was said before.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:mjyl7Msl Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:30:59 No.5499612 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499610
>>5499611
It's just 1-2 faggots trolling at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:32:26 No.5499615 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499573
>You are comparing the brutalistic utilitarianism of a caveman who needs to hunt for food
That isn't what Wrix did. Even he admitted it was mostly pointless theatrics

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:35:01 No.5499616 Report

Quoted By: >>5499665

>>5499610
If the tally at >>5499127 was right, then I'm pretty sure since then, it's become...
>Bantam: 14
>Yino: 7
>Maktana III: 16

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:35:24 No.5499617 Report

Quoted By: >>5499621 >>5499623 >>5499626 >>5499665

>>5499610

>>5499384
>>5499127
>>5499104 (.5 vote)
>>5498867
>>5498846
>>5498821 (.5 vote)
Yino

>>5499329
>>5499321
>>5499216
>>5499019
>>5499005
>>5498988
>>5498870
>>5498851
>>5498849
>>5498843
>>5498829
>>5498821 (.5 vote)
>>5498815
>>5498814
Maktana

>>5499361
>>5499337
>>5499292
>>5499283
>>5499217
>>5499167
>>5499197
>>5499131
>>5499104 (.5 vote)
>>5499079
>>5499064
>>5499057
>>5499050
>>5498883
>>5498880
Bantam

It's 13.5 - 14.5 Bantam. You are a terrible counter.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:35:30 No.5499618 Report

Quoted By: >>5499640 >>5499648

>>5499607
>Soooo, turning Yuan into an undying abomination for our own amusement is good,
No, punishing a traitor is good. Farro did nothing to them.
>What's the difference between the Hegemony clearing a few planets and the aristocrats clearing a few planets.
Good thing i was never talking about the aristocrat planets, then.
>What's the difference between what the aristocrat did to Farro and what we would have done to Yuan if our life machine had infinite charges, like the aristocrat's machines do?
Ferro Val isn't an psychopathic traitorous rapist.
>Just because you disagree with the motive, it doesn't mean that it was unmotivated.
Ah, here it is with the moral relativism again. No, no matter how much you repeat it, hedonism is not an valid excuse.
>You said our killing of the hazaar and vetuckians was justified because it was done to free up space
Yes, as opposed to making fucking instruments out of people, which is completely pointless.
>How exactly are worse, you retard?
Because they are degenerate hedonistic retards who turn completely innocent hostages into living instruments for their pleasure
>Hurry dur but what about [made up scenario]

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:36:48 No.5499621 Report

Quoted By: >>5499626

>>5499617
Bro you are counting people who changed their votes

Bantam is in the definitive lead

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:kOiU3zok Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:38:15 No.5499623 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499617
Ah, yeah, might've used the full name searching for Maktana instead of just Maktana. Whoopsie. But regardless, I just wanted to change the autism topic to something else.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:38:59 No.5499626 Report

Quoted By: >>5499630 >>5499751 >>5499810 >>5499826 >>5499845

>>5499617
And for the record, I'm going to change my split vote (>>5498821) to Maktana, putting us at 14 Maktana / 14.5 Bantam.

>>5499621
Like who exactly? None of the Maktana votes in my list switched unless they switched and didn't backlink. I deliberately excluded anybody who switched and then backlinked to their old vote.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:40:20 No.5499627 Report

Quoted By:

I would also recommend any Yino votes reading this to pick a side, because there's no chance in hell Yino will actually win and you could tip the scales to your second preference.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:40:37 No.5499629 Report

Quoted By: >>5499646

>>5499568
That would be a start. And also getting rid of retrograde nonsense in our culture like the Supremacist philosophy.

We purged capitalism. Purging sexism and racism should be next

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:40:53 No.5499630 Report

Quoted By: >>5499631 >>5499665

>>5499626
Bro you literally include my vote that i changed

TWICE
>>5499005
>>5498988

Stop trying to add more votes to maktana

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:42:31 No.5499631 Report

Quoted By: >>5499635

>>5499630
>voted twice for some reason
>didn't backlink to vote you changed
what did he mean by this

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:42:49 No.5499632 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499591
>unmotivated torture
So what was the motive for torturing kids to death?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:45:01 No.5499635 Report

Quoted By: >>5499637

>>5499631
>voted twice
With the same IP? Before changing my vote?
>Didn't backlink
Have you considered actually reading the thread if you're going to count the votes? But ah, that wouldn't give the choice you want the advantage, would it?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:46:21 No.5499637 Report

Quoted By: >>5499642

>>5499635
>With the same IP? Before changing my vote?
what did he mean by this

>Have you considered actually reading the thread if you're going to count the votes? But ah, that wouldn't give the choice you want the advantage, would it?
you are literally the guy who voted twice for the same option and my count still had bantam ahead

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:49:42 No.5499640 Report

Quoted By: >>5499641 >>5499647 >>5499648

>>5499618
Let me try it once again. You keep saying that the monkeys are better than the aristocrats because MUH UTILITARIANISM. But, what you keep ignoring because you're too stupid to understand, is that utilitarianism as an ethos that concerns itself entirely with ACTIONS and their consequences, not their motives. You keep harping on about the MOTIVES of the aristocrats and how they're worse, but that should be completely irrelevant to a real utilitarian like you're claiming to be. That's deontology. You're making a deontological argument in favour of utilitarianism and you can't tell the difference because everything is messed up inside that thick skull of yours. And you keep defaulting to examining motives and how they differ because you know that there is no difference between the actions at all! The aristocrats cleared a few planets and tortured a guy, we cleared a few planets and tortured a guy.
>inb4 MUH MORAL RELATIVISM
THAT'S NOT WHAT MORAL RELATIVISM YOU FUCKING IMBECILE! I'M APPLYING THE SAME CRITERIA TO BOTH AND SAYING THAT BOTH ARE EVIL. YOU'RE THE ONE WHO KEEPS SAYING THAT THEY ARE BAD AND WE ARE GOOD JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE THEM AND WE'RE US.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:50:27 No.5499641 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499640
lol autist

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:51:16 No.5499642 Report

Quoted By: >>5499643

>>5499637
>what did he mean by this
Why the fuck would i WANT to vote twice, and then change my single vote into something else? It's the same ID.
>you are literally the guy who voted twice for the same option
I voted for one option, then changed my vote. All under 1 ID. And you counted it as two votes, even though I changed.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:51:44 No.5499643 Report

Quoted By: >>5499652

>>5499642
>I voted for one option
twice

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:54:05 No.5499646 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499629
Don’t bring RL politics into this anon

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:54:51 No.5499647 Report

Quoted By: >>5499695

>>5499640
Ah, so you don't understand what motivation actually means. Gotcha.

The difference, you blithering buffoon, is that the hegemony did things for an ACTUAL, PHYSICAL, result. This is not "muh excuse", there is an actual fucking benefit from the genocide of the hazaar. The actual rewards given by the hegemony's action CANNOT, as you have been trying, be equalized to the actions of the aristocrats, who are just plain hedonists.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:55:47 No.5499648 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499618
>>5499640
We ain’t trying to break the record of 2K posts anons.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Sat 17 Dec 2022 00:57:17 No.5499652 Report

Quoted By: >>5499665 >>5499667

>>5499643
Under the same IP?

And don't try to dodge the point. The score is 11-14 for Bantam, not 13-14

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Sat 17 Dec 2022 01:04:36 No.5499665 Report

Quoted By: >>5499670 >>5499700

>>5498800
>>5499652
>>5499617
>>5499616
>>5499610
>>5499630
I THINK this should be pretty comprehensive, or at least pretty darn close. I did it by ID.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sat 17 Dec 2022 01:06:10 No.5499667 Report

Quoted By: >>5499677

>>5499652
>The score is 11-14 for Bantam, not 13-14
yeah I agree

>Under the same IP?
right, right, so you made an innocent mistake with no malicious...
no malicious in...
no malicious intent...

huh

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Sat 17 Dec 2022 01:07:05 No.5499670 Report

Quoted By: >>5499721

>>5499665
Why did you count me as yino?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Sat 17 Dec 2022 01:09:33 No.5499677 Report

Quoted By: >>5499679

>>5499667
>no malicious intent.
It's literally the same color and ID, how can you not notice that

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sat 17 Dec 2022 01:10:14 No.5499679 Report

Quoted By: >>5499682

>>5499677
maybe because you didn't BACKLINK you BLITHERING MORON?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Sat 17 Dec 2022 01:12:12 No.5499682 Report

Quoted By: >>5499684

>>5499679
It's the same ID, did you not notice?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sat 17 Dec 2022 01:13:07 No.5499684 Report

Quoted By: >>5499692

>>5499682
OBVIOUSLY I DIDN'T NOTICE, BECAUSE I MISTAKENLY ASSUMED EVERYBODY WOULD 1) NOT VOTE TWICE FOR NO REASON AND 2) BACKLINK THEIR CHANGED VOTES LIKE A NORMAL PERSON

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 17 Dec 2022 01:16:05 No.5499691 Report

Quoted By:

Remember lads, voting Yino is kino!

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Sat 17 Dec 2022 01:16:10 No.5499692 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499684
Sounds like a skill issue

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Sat 17 Dec 2022 01:17:43 No.5499695 Report

Quoted By: >>5499700 >>5499703

>>5499647
Killing billions for tax cuts vs torturing one guy for music.

They both benefitted. The Aristrocrat didn't gut the monke for no reason, you just personally value the "benefits" of the genocide more so than the "benefits" of the music.

That is inherently a value judgement, because by my reasoning the "benefits" of the genocide were nowhere near in proportion to the costs.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Sat 17 Dec 2022 01:18:34 No.5499700 Report

Quoted By: >>5499721

>>5499695
>>5499665
My count has

Yino:5
Bantam:15
Maktana:14

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Sat 17 Dec 2022 01:19:33 No.5499703 Report

Quoted By: >>5499708

>>5499695
"Tax cuts"

There were literally more planets inhabited by hazar than jaxtians. If Jaxt went kaboom, the race would have been dead. Now it won't.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Sat 17 Dec 2022 01:21:31 No.5499705 Report

Quoted By: >>5499711

Also, pretty sure it's not 14 Maktana votes when you count the people who switched

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Sat 17 Dec 2022 01:22:19 No.5499708 Report

Quoted By: >>5499714

>>5499703
That still a subjective value judgement, that says Blue Hazaar lives are inherently worth less than tax cuts and the land they are living on.

They were already citizens, they were working the land, they were serfs so they probalay were CHEAPER than actual Jataxians, we traded 9 billion actual people to appease a philosophy that the last Supreme openly called rediculous

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Sat 17 Dec 2022 01:24:12 No.5499711 Report

Quoted By: >>5499713

>>5499705
By my math it was

Y: 7 original votes, two switched to Bantham
B: 13 original votes, gaining two extra from Yino and one from Makatana
M: 15 original votes, losing one to Bantham

7-2=5
13+2=15
15-1=14

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Sat 17 Dec 2022 01:27:45 No.5499713 Report

Quoted By: >>5499721

>>5499711
Mate, i counted 14 Bantam votes THIS AFTERNOON, and there were more after.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Sat 17 Dec 2022 01:28:46 No.5499714 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499708
No, it's not

Killing hazaar to improve the future of our actual race is a thousand times better than torturing an innocent man for pleasure.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:r5+pa6Sj Sat 17 Dec 2022 01:37:56 No.5499721 Report

Quoted By: >>5499726

>>5499670
Woops!

>>5498800
So 14 for Bantam, 15 with split votes included. Seems to be generally agreed upon, too, with >>5499700

>>5499713
Show yout math like I did. Either we'll accept your conclusion or, if you made an error, we will correct you as you did with me.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Skt3BbMC Sat 17 Dec 2022 01:39:30 No.5499724 Report

Quoted By: >>5499727 >>5499854

Let's look at it this way. If we pick one as Supreme the other two will be assets in the administration. So let's compare the different lineups

>Bantham Supreme, Makatana head of Science, Yino Head of Arts.

We have a militant-leaning Supreme like Agori and another Maktanaa running our science department.

>Makatana Supreme, Bantham head General, Yino head of Arts
This lineup gives us a Talcaent-style persona with a Cijan-style brain (but without the internal unrest that doomed Cijan) with Bantham as an Eoba-style general.

Given his combat experience and training, I think Bantham works better in the field. Even as Supreme Maktana III can engage in research and the like but if Bantham is Supreme he won't be able to pull off the Civ V style "great warrior" feats that we got from Kimnam one and 2

>Yino Supreme, Maktana head of Science, Bantham general
This is interesting because it delegates the duties to experts while having Yino lay back and be more of a cultural leader.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Sat 17 Dec 2022 01:42:44 No.5499726 Report

Quoted By: >>5499729

>>5499721
>Show your math like i did
Kinda hard to do that when you're in mobile, but like as shown by that anon with the quotes, there aren't 14 maktana votes.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Skt3BbMC Sat 17 Dec 2022 01:43:20 No.5499727 Report

Quoted By: >>5499729 >>5499810 >>5499845 >>5500043

>>5499724
So to me, it's a toss-up between Yino and Maktana. Given the votes, I would go for Maktana.

Maktana also has the added benefit of being able to directly do his science works instead of asking the Supreme for funding with the potential of getting denied.

We also have had the issue in the past of picking a Supreme for a war that didn't come with a negative fallout from that.

I think it's easier to have a Cultural/Technocrat leader with a general they can use in a war if it comes up than having a Militant leader for a war that may not come in their reign.

I personally want Yino, especially with the speech he gave to Wrix, but the votes are so low for Yino I will go for

>Maktana

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:r5+pa6Sj Sat 17 Dec 2022 01:45:06 No.5499729 Report

Quoted By: >>5499731 >>5499751

>>5499726
He counted 13 and a split vote, for 14 pro-Maktana posts total with splits.

>>5499727
15 Maktana votes now, counting splits.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Sat 17 Dec 2022 01:48:26 No.5499731 Report

Quoted By: >>5499735

>>5499729
No, he counted 13 including MY votes that i switched

In reality it's 11...and now 12

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:r5+pa6Sj Sat 17 Dec 2022 01:51:23 No.5499735 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499731
Well, check my listed IDs or provide a counter-example. If you can't, hopefully someone else here will. I'd love to be cotrected if I messed up. It's certainly POSSIBLE, as this vote has been a mess between ethical debates and people changng votes, double voting, voting without tagging the vote post...

Anyone, did I miss a flipped vote or miecount your vote, aside from Lnxy8alk?

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sat 17 Dec 2022 01:52:20 No.5499737 Report

Quoted By: >>5499741

>>5499380
I love this one kek

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Sat 17 Dec 2022 01:54:56 No.5499741 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499737
>fallible human beings
Ar*stocrats are not people

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Sat 17 Dec 2022 01:59:42 No.5499746 Report

Quoted By: >>5499751 >>5499752 >>5499755 >>5499766

>>5498814
M
>>5498815
M
>>5498829
M
>>5498834
Y
>>5498843
M
>>5498846
Y
>>5498849
M
>>5498851
M
>>5498867
Y
>>5498870
M
>>5498880
B
>>5498883
B
>>5498897
M
>>5498988
M
>>5499005
M
>>5499019
M
>>5499021
Y
>>5499050
B
>>5499057
B
>>5499064
B
>>5499079
-M, +B
>>5499127
Y
>>5499131
B
>>5499167
B
>>5499197
-Y,+B
>>5499216
M
>>5499217
B
>>5499283
-Y,+B
>>5499300
B
>>5499309
Y
>>5499321
M
>>5499329
M
>>5499337
B
>>5499361
B
>>5499384
Y
>>5499517
M

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Sat 17 Dec 2022 02:04:21 No.5499751 Report

Quoted By: >>5499755 >>5499768

>>5499746
Lol it took me so long to tally that I missed an extra M

>>5499729
I think its

16Maktana
15 Bantham
5 Yino

I didn't count>>5499626
Because I missed the green text, but rereading it now I think its Maktana slim lead.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Sat 17 Dec 2022 02:04:29 No.5499752 Report

Quoted By: >>5499755 >>5499781

>>5499746
You counted my votes as Maktana...again...

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:r5+pa6Sj Sat 17 Dec 2022 02:06:27 No.5499755 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499751
>>5499746
Alas,
>>5499752 is right.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:FZMQEgV3 Sat 17 Dec 2022 02:09:32 No.5499759 Report

Quoted By: >>5499763 >>5499764

>>5498800
So I've been thinking about the Maktana III magnetism which is currently limited by the amount of electricity produced by the Jaxtian nervous system. Now, this can actually be pretty easily solved by creating some way for the Magnetic monkey to tap into an additional power source, likely through some type of suit or helmet. This could be used in shipboard combat with the magnetic monkey tapping into the fusion core or perhaps with a portable battery pack for on the ground using the Balaathi battery tech or conventional batteries. Magnetism actually has some pretty amazing combat capabilities, could you imagine ripping apart gun emplacements with a thought or blocking a hail of bullets?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Sat 17 Dec 2022 02:11:34 No.5499763 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499759
I really doubt they'd be able to use it on space, given the distances of the void and the fact that anyone with such power would need to be in a sealed environment to...you know, not die

But groundwise? Yeah, it would be great. But then again, we don't actually know what a real Planetary battle with heavy resistance looks like

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:r5+pa6Sj Sat 17 Dec 2022 02:12:20 No.5499764 Report

Quoted By: >>5499782

>>5499759
Or stick him in the Life Machine and ask it to amp him up. Maybe that'll be weird enough to "inspire" it?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Sat 17 Dec 2022 02:12:23 No.5499766 Report

Quoted By: >>5499772

>>5499746
Anon 'Lynx' is correct. You are counting them 3 times. If you want to eliminate duplicate votes by the same ID, you could pop them into an excel type list and sort by ID.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Sat 17 Dec 2022 02:12:38 No.5499768 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499751
14*

Bantam is in the lead

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Lnxy8aIk Sat 17 Dec 2022 02:13:41 No.5499772 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499766
That would eliminate switched votes

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Sat 17 Dec 2022 02:16:19 No.5499778 Report

Quoted By:

Post numbers are in ascending order. Could pick the one with the highest post number if needed. Where this method would run into issues would be if there was a changed vote with a changed ID. I mean, alternatively I suppose you could strike duplicated votes, but that method was already bypassed.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sat 17 Dec 2022 02:17:26 No.5499781 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499752
geez buddy it's almost as if you failed to do one simple thing which would've made votes way easier to count

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FZMQEgV3 Sat 17 Dec 2022 02:17:48 No.5499782 Report

Quoted By: >>5499787 >>5501440

>>5499764
The life machine is the great Satan, it should be cast into the Sun inshallah.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Sat 17 Dec 2022 02:19:57 No.5499787 Report

Quoted By: >>5501440

>>5499782
>Hegemonian
>Praising a deity

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:tanQsOMK Sat 17 Dec 2022 02:29:16 No.5499796 Report

Quoted By:

You moral fags have got it all wrong. Applying your silly RL modern morality to the fictional facist mokeverse.

It's simple: The pink xeno hedonist has hurt one of our own and personally offended the sensibilities of the Supreme Ruler. You know what has to happen next.

I feel another mask era coming on... >:)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:a/pphQd0 Sat 17 Dec 2022 02:32:47 No.5499802 Report

Quoted By: >>5499810 >>5499814 >>5499845

Hmm, I guess I'll go with Yino. Maktana and Bantam look like they could do a lot of good as specialized men of science rather than generalized leaders.

Also, uh.... is Val actually dead? Or is he still alive as an instrument?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sat 17 Dec 2022 02:49:53 No.5499810 Report

Quoted By: >>5499815 >>5499824 >>5499846 >>5499861

>>5498814 M (1)
>>5498815 M (2)
>>5498821 (changed at >>5499626) M (3)
>>5498829 M (4)
>>5498834 (changed at >>5499283) B (1)
>>5498843 M (5)
>>5498846 Y (1)
>>5498849 M (6)
>>5498851 M (7)
>>5498867 Y (2)
>>5498870 M (8)
>>5498880 B (2)
>>5498883 B (3)
>>5498897 (changed at >>5499079) B (4)
>>5498988 (duplicated at >>5499005, changed at >>5499057) B (5)
>>5499019 M (9)
>>5499021 (changed at >>5499197) B (6)
>>5499050 B (7)
>>5499064 B (8)
>>5499104 Y (3) or B (9)
>>5499127 Y (changing NOW, as I post this) M (10)
>>5499131 B (10)
>>5499167 B (11)
>>5499197 B (12)
>>5499216 M (11)
>>5499217 B (13)
>>5499292 B (14)
>>5499300 B (15)
>>5499309 Y (4)
>>5499321 M (12)
>>5499329 open to Y, no formal split vote) M (13)
>>5499337 B (16)
>>5499361 B (17)
>>5499384 Y (5)
>>5499517 M (14)
>>5499727 M (15)
>>5499802 Y (6)

Does anyone feel this is incorrect? Did I miss ANY vote-post? Otherwise...
Bantham: 17, 16 without splits
Maktana III: 15
Yino (RIP): 6, 5 without splits

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ZrswqMhd Sat 17 Dec 2022 02:56:54 No.5499814 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499802
He's not dead, he's just experiencing a case of I have no mouth but I must scream.

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sat 17 Dec 2022 02:57:41 No.5499815 Report

Quoted By: >>5499840 >>5500108

>>5499810
Thanks for this.

Not closing it just yet because big vote + don't have time to update today anyway, but I do appreciate it and everyone who voted.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Sat 17 Dec 2022 03:14:03 No.5499824 Report

Quoted By: >>5499840

I got 13 Bantam + 1 split, 14 Maktana +0 split, 6 Yino + 1 split.

>>5499810
>5499079
>5499283
>5499626

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Sat 17 Dec 2022 03:15:39 No.5499826 Report

Quoted By: >>5499840

>>5499079
>>5499283
>>5499626

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ZrswqMhd Sat 17 Dec 2022 03:26:49 No.5499832 Report

Quoted By: >>5499840 >>5499876

>>5498800
>Bantam Falathane
Science leaders are wasted in the Supreme position, so it's either Yino or Bantham. Yino is far behind so Bantham it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sat 17 Dec 2022 03:33:42 No.5499840 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499824
>>5499826

I got those three, anon. Check again.

>>5499832
Batham has 18 votes, 17 without splits. He's not who -I- want for Supreme, but so be it.

He probably will be just fine, I guess.

>>5499815
No worries, BQM. Do we get to design a robe again? That was the most fun thing about Wrix.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Sat 17 Dec 2022 03:37:33 No.5499845 Report

Quoted By: >>5499866 >>5499867

>>5498814 // M
>>5498815 // M2
>>5498821 // x (superseded by >>5499626)
>>5498829 // M3
>>5498834 // x (superseded by >>5499283)
>>5498843 // M4
>>5498846 // Y1
>>5498849 // M5
>>5498851 // M6
>>5498867 // Y2
>>5498870 // M7
>>5498880 // B1
>>5498883 // B2
>>5498897 // x (superseded by >>5499079)
>>5498988 // x (lnxy8)
>>5499005 // x (lnxy8)
>>5499019 // M8
>>5499021 // x (superseded by >>5499197)
>>5499050 // B3
>>5499064 // B4
>>5499079 // B5
>>5499104 // Y&B
>>5499127 // Y3
>>5499131 // B6
>>5499167 // B7
>>5499197 // B8 (i missed this one in my count above)
>>5499216 // M9
>>5499217 // B9
>>5499283 // B10
>>5499292 // B11
>>5499300 // B12
>>5499309 // Y4
>>5499321 // M10
>>5499329 // M11
>>5499337 // B13
>>5499361 // B14
>>5499384 // Y5
>>5499517 // M12
>>5499626 // M13
>>5499727 // M14
>>5499802 // Y6

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Sat 17 Dec 2022 03:42:28 No.5499846 Report

Quoted By: >>5499866 >>5499867

Oh, I see that >>5499810 is changing a Yino to a Maktana, which I didn't notice, and would move from 14+1 Batham; 14 Maktana; 6+1 Yino to 15 Maktana; 5+1 Yino.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:B52+kRFB Sat 17 Dec 2022 03:54:43 No.5499854 Report

Quoted By: >>5499905

>>5499724
>mfw I realize it
Our choice of Supreme here literally only effects who our intergalactic allies will be.
>Bantam = Esaal
>Maktana = Seekers or Comsortium
>Yino = Aristocrats

But will it be a 2 on 2 war between neighbors or to fight the Cyte?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Sat 17 Dec 2022 03:58:45 No.5499861 Report

Quoted By: >>5499867

>>5499810
You double-counted 5499197. I don't see the other discrepancy between our counts.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sat 17 Dec 2022 04:06:19 No.5499866 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499845
>>5499846
You missed 5499057 and 5499832. And you're right, I double-counted 5499197. Adjusted, then...

Bantham: 17, 16 without splits (your 14+1, plus the two you missed)
Maktana III: 15 (agreed already)
Yino (RIP): 6, 5 without splits (agreed already)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sat 17 Dec 2022 04:08:16 No.5499867 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499845
>>5499846
>>5499861
You missed 5499057 and 5499832. And you're right, I double-counted 5499197. Adjusted, then...

Bantham: 17, 16 without splits (your 14+1, plus the two you missed)
Maktana III: 15 (agreed already)
Yino (RIP): 6, 5 without splits (agreed already)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Sat 17 Dec 2022 04:11:32 No.5499872 Report

Quoted By:

I see it now. I missed >>5499057 (lynx, who is apparently difficult to count as multiple anons have missed them). So that's 15+1 Batham, 15 Matkina, and 5+1 Yino. Lots of posts and very close.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Sat 17 Dec 2022 04:14:15 No.5499876 Report

Quoted By: >>5499880 >>5500063

Yes, >>5499832 came later, so I agree 16+1 Batham; 15 Matkina; 5+1 Yino.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sat 17 Dec 2022 04:16:36 No.5499880 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499876

Count di Mone'

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Count di Mone' ID:rZIgfzk1 Sat 17 Dec 2022 04:19:30 No.5499883 Report

Quoted By:

Ha ha ha

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Sat 17 Dec 2022 04:24:33 No.5499885 Report

Quoted By:

Together we solved the puzzle.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Sat 17 Dec 2022 04:33:02 No.5499905 Report

Quoted By: >>5499911

>>5499854
If this is true it makes me think Maktana is even more the right choice. We have been teased with Jedi for like half this quest. Let's do it now please

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sat 17 Dec 2022 04:39:39 No.5499911 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499905
Convince the other Yino-Kino bros to flip, and we can have that future. Otherwise, well, maybe our new war-supreme will be into the idea of funding a neat little Maktana side-project?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Sat 17 Dec 2022 05:01:41 No.5499922 Report

Quoted By: >>5499923 >>5499968

I don't play any other games. Does this question have the most voters on the board?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Sat 17 Dec 2022 05:02:17 No.5499923 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499922
*quest
I meant

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FZMQEgV3 Sat 17 Dec 2022 05:58:09 No.5499968 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499922
The only quest with around the same traffic I think is Sworn to Valour.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:WZA8cU96 Sat 17 Dec 2022 07:16:29 No.5500014 Report

Quoted By: >>5500017 >>5500023

This shit is just like real life elections.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Sat 17 Dec 2022 07:16:35 No.5500015 Report

Quoted By: >>5500017 >>5500024 >>5500045 >>5500086

Yino Kino bro here. Could be convinced to flip. Assuming the Cyte is a Militarized Dyson Sphere that robs Jaxt of sunlight, who would be the better Supreme, and why?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sat 17 Dec 2022 07:23:26 No.5500017 Report

Quoted By: >>5500028 >>5500045

>>5500014
>bitter but theoretically on-topic arguments that devolve into shitflinging
>accusations of voter fraud
>committed 3rd party voters who don't seem to realize they're throwing away any shot of electoral relevancy
You're not wrong.

>>5500015
What is a military Supreme going to do against a Dyson Sphere? That sounds like something we need to outsmart, not outgun, and only Maktana's going to have the special tech advances.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Sat 17 Dec 2022 07:32:32 No.5500023 Report

Quoted By: >>5500028 >>5500031

>>5500014
This thread developed full on political wings a few installments ago

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Sat 17 Dec 2022 07:33:28 No.5500024 Report

Quoted By:

>>5500015
Maktana has the scientific background and genius to lead the Hegemony "big picture" style as Supreme.

Bantam would be better suited as an Admiral/General in the field of we fight against any foreign powers.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sat 17 Dec 2022 07:41:24 No.5500028 Report

Quoted By:

>>5500023
Someday Essayanon will come back from the war and deliver.

>>5500017
Clearly the only solution to this is Bananas implementing Single Transferable Vote :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WZA8cU96 Sat 17 Dec 2022 07:43:20 No.5500031 Report

Quoted By: >>5500034 >>5500043

>>5500023
I was talking about alleged voter fraud, not your shutflinging.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Sat 17 Dec 2022 07:46:07 No.5500034 Report

Quoted By: >>5500043

>>5500031
Are you doing okay, anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sat 17 Dec 2022 08:01:41 No.5500043 Report

Quoted By:

>>5500031
>>5500034

These are the only votes which have either 1post and no backlink, or a few posts but all fresh to the thread and clustered close as one might expect from the most usual types of vote-rigging:

>>5498814 M
>>5498867 Y
>>5499021 Y
>>5499292 B
>>5499517 M
>>5499727 M

I don't think any are fraudulent, but if they WERE, it would make it:

>Bantham: 16
>Maktana III: 12
>Yino: 4

In other words: the current probable outcome would only be more pronounced.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Sat 17 Dec 2022 08:04:12 No.5500045 Report

Quoted By: >>5500149

>>5500017
>>5500015
>>5498846
>>5498800

Okay, my suspicions are confirmed. Changing from Yino to MAKTANA THE 3RD

Yino probably would have to sell himself to Aristocrats to get their help and even then why wouldn't they betray us?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sat 17 Dec 2022 08:47:09 No.5500063 Report

Quoted By:

>>5499876
Now 16+1 Bantham, 16 Maktana, 4+1 Yino.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Cd9mk57L Sat 17 Dec 2022 09:00:49 No.5500067 Report

Quoted By: >>5500070 >>5500073

The idea that Maktana would improve the science more if he was the supreme is kinda...stupid

Why would he improve the science more if he has to spend more time doing administrative work? Wouldn't he be actively losing his potential? This ain't a videogame where you get some numbered bonus, choosing maktana as supreme would only make him lose his potential to be a full time scientist.

You people do realize that, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Sat 17 Dec 2022 09:08:49 No.5500070 Report

Quoted By: >>5500081

>>5500067
Total budgetary control. Ability to delegate without permission. I could see arguements both ways. Only Bananas knows.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qllIFoE/ Sat 17 Dec 2022 09:10:23 No.5500071 Report

Quoted By: >>5500149

>>5498867
>>5498800
Swapping my vote from Yino to

> Bantam Falathane

A great scientist does not necessarily make for a great Supreme, while psychology and nobility are more relevant specialisations.

Sadly, it seems Yino’s odds are dead in the water.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sat 17 Dec 2022 09:15:18 No.5500073 Report

Quoted By: >>5500081

>>5500067
This isn't a video game, but it's still a game. Use your giga brain and consider the fact that Bananas is presenting us with three presumably balanced options:

>Science
>Military
>Culture

This is not a trap. This is not a trick question. This is literally as straightfoward as he could have made any succession vote without going HURR GUYS WHAT DO YOU WANNA BE GOOD AT. If Maktana would be better at science as an adviser than as Supreme, then that's a nonsensical dick move from Bananas and would rightfully cause (...another...) shitstorm about our choices not mattering.

Also, it literally says right here.
>Regardless, he has a great mind for science and will likely lead to many high tech advancements

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Cd9mk57L Sat 17 Dec 2022 09:22:48 No.5500081 Report

Quoted By: >>5500087

>>5500070
Again, he'd still be losing time.
>>5500073
That doesn't make sense though, does it? It's a choice of who you want. And supremes very often don't turn out the way their small choice blurb says. For example, Agori turned out to be the complete and utter opposite of his.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:y9pRLmsi Sat 17 Dec 2022 09:31:27 No.5500086 Report

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>>5500015
None of them would be specifically better in that scenario, though

Even if Bantam gets chosen, Maktana, who knows technology, is still around. It wouldn't really matter who was supreme in this scenario, so it seems unwise to base your choice on that.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sat 17 Dec 2022 09:32:52 No.5500087 Report

Quoted By: >>5500088

>>5500081
>It's a choice of who you want.
Each of the three options VERY CLEARLY correspond to one major area they're strong in. This is their main point of differentiation, since all three seem to be relatively moral/non-genocidal. Do you literally need it spelled out for you? Maktana III (GOOD AT SCIENCE)?

>And supremes very often don't turn out the way their small choice blurb says.
Maktana III is a clone. He's going to turn out the exact same way the previous two Maktanas did.

>For example, Agori turned out to be the complete and utter opposite of his.
Because every single Supreme option in that batch had mental issues. We were voting for which mental issue we wanted. This was also before the playerbase got jaded and angry.

>That doesn't make sense though, does it?
It makes perfect sense. If Bananas has any QM sense whatsoever, he's not going to play a(nother) LOL GOTCHA with a restive, unhappy playerbase. He is going to give us clear options and deliver us what we voted for-- a Supreme that is good at science or culture or military. If you are arguing that Maktana is a trap option, you are arguing that Bananas is a moron.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:y9pRLmsi Sat 17 Dec 2022 09:36:57 No.5500088 Report

Quoted By: >>5500094 >>5500095

>>5500087
>Each of the three options VERY CLEARLY correspond to one major area they're strong in
It's a general focus, maybe, but that doesn't mean they're magically going to get a freebie on that area. Maktana is good at science, so he might focus on science projects, but that doesn't mean he himself will be able to fullfill his potential as a scientist.
>Maktana III is a clone
Eoba II and Kimnan II didn't turn out the way of their predecessors, though, did they?
>Because every single Supreme option in that batch had mental issues.
Agori was not the first nor the last time a supreme didn't turn out the way the choice talked about them. The point is that it's not a dry choice that turns out the exact way you expect it to.
> he's not going to play a(nother) LOL GOTCHA with a restive, unhappy playerbase
It's not a gotcha, it's logic, if you spend your time on administration, you're not gonna spend your time on doing science yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sat 17 Dec 2022 09:48:42 No.5500094 Report

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>>5500088
>It's not a gotcha, it's logic
Yes, giga brain, it's IC logic. Very good. We are not talking about IC logic. We are talking about Bananas, as a real human person, making deliberate QMing choices in a specific environment.

Now that we're using OOC logic, please tell me what is more likely.

>Maktana III is better at science (offers more or better tech advances, etc.) as Supreme than he would be as a generic science advisor. This offers a tangible benefit for voting for him, satisfies the playerbase, and restores some more trust in Bananas's QMing, since this was the clearly signposted result.

>Maktana III is worse at science than he would be as a generic science advisor. This makes voting for him not just useless but actively detrimental, makes the playerbase angry (people who voted for him because they wanted extra tech advances, people who didn't vote for him because the loss stings even worse now), and gets everybody pissed at Bananas, because everybody is already on edge from last thread and the thread before that and the thread before that and the thread before that and we've already had recent issues with misleading options.

Again, we are all actual people, playing a game run by an actual person. I don't care how EPIC and LOGICAL your IC conclusions are. If you're correct, than Bananas is a moron.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sat 17 Dec 2022 09:50:26 No.5500095 Report

Quoted By: >>5500099

>>5500088

>It's not a gotcha, it's logic
Yes, giga brain, it's IC logic. Very good. We are not talking about IC logic. We are talking about Bananas, as a real human person, making deliberate QMing choices in a specific environment.

Now that we're using OOC logic, please tell me what is more likely.

>Maktana III is better at science (offers more or better tech advances, etc.) as Supreme than he would be as a generic science advisor. This offers a tangible benefit for voting for him, satisfies the playerbase, and restores some more trust in Bananas's QMing, since this was the clearly signposted result.

>Maktana III is worse at science as Supreme than he would be as a generic science advisor. This makes voting for him not just useless but actively detrimental, makes the playerbase angry (people who voted for him because they wanted extra tech advances, people who didn't vote for him because the loss stings even worse now), and gets everybody pissed at Bananas, because everybody is already on edge from last thread and the thread before that and the thread before that and the thread before that and we've already had recent issues with misleading options.

Again, we are all actual people, playing a game run by an actual person. I don't care how EPIC and LOGICAL your IC conclusions are. If you're correct, then Bananas is a moron.

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Anonymous ID:y9pRLmsi Sat 17 Dec 2022 09:51:48 No.5500097 Report

Quoted By: >>5500502

Speaking of something else, i had a really weird fuckin' dream this night, actually related to this quest. I don't have dreams usually.

So you see, it was like an update i was reading, complete with bananas-style art pictures, and it started with some shady figures speaking about some ultra-deep-state that actually lead over the supreme because the ruler caste was too retarded, while they were watching random stuff happen from some screen like kima's whole independence spiel to bluey or some other scenes with supremes. Then, it led, for some reason, into some nondescript supreme going into some weird secret tunnel, which led to a room full of screens, and among other things, those screens had some anime-looking figures in them. Again, the whole thing was an actual update, it was all drawn in bananas style. Anime monkeys.

And then, the thing ended with a vote to have 'Flash Episodes', which, inside the dream, i immediately figured out were like, small, non-related sidequest threads about some alternate universe like, 'What if Akule never killed his brother'

It was weird.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:y9pRLmsi Sat 17 Dec 2022 09:53:58 No.5500099 Report

Quoted By: >>5500100

>>5500095
>Now that we're using OOC logic, please tell me what is more likely.
Using OOC logic?

Weeell, bananas hasn't exactly gotten a track record of doing what people expect him to...and it's been that way for some pretty long time. We've had three threads of 'return to normal' by now.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sat 17 Dec 2022 10:00:31 No.5500100 Report

Quoted By: >>5500106

>>5500099
>basically going "yeah bananas is a moron actually"
Okay, I respect the balls. Personally I'd much rather live in a universe where I can trust Bananas to make the only logical QMing choice here, so I'm going to stick with that. But keep calm and carry on, you crazy bastard.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:y9pRLmsi Sat 17 Dec 2022 10:06:45 No.5500106 Report

Quoted By: >>5500107

>>5500100
Well, it's the track record, isn't it? Every QM has a style.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sat 17 Dec 2022 10:07:44 No.5500107 Report

Quoted By: >>5500110

>>5500106
I certainly agree that he's made some """""""""""unconventional"""""""""" choices before.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sat 17 Dec 2022 10:09:55 No.5500108 Report

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Speaking of...

>>5499815
Get a trip!! JFC!!

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Sat 17 Dec 2022 10:22:12 No.5500110 Report

Quoted By: >>5500114

>>5500107
They really are the /qst/ George Lucas, aren't they?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sat 17 Dec 2022 10:24:05 No.5500112 Report

Quoted By: >>5500149

>>5498800
>Maktana Nanaone III

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:hpcyClrz Sat 17 Dec 2022 10:38:28 No.5500114 Report

Quoted By: >>5500120

>>5500110
It's like Poetry. It rhymes.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sat 17 Dec 2022 10:52:06 No.5500120 Report

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>>5500114
Would have been fitting if Wrix's son ever stood a chance.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sat 17 Dec 2022 12:37:46 No.5500149 Report

Quoted By: >>5500190

>>5500045
>>5500071
>>5500112

18 for Bantham
17 for Maktana
4 for Yino

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sat 17 Dec 2022 13:59:44 No.5500187 Report

Quoted By:

Voting closed.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:qyAWXuk0 Sat 17 Dec 2022 14:02:05 No.5500190 Report

Quoted By: >>5500192 >>5500366

>>5500149
Poor Yino, barely considered a choice by his own dad.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:y9pRLmsi Sat 17 Dec 2022 14:05:00 No.5500192 Report

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>>5500190
To be fair, given what he's become, i'd say he's sparing him the stress. Now he can just be an artist.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Sat 17 Dec 2022 17:50:27 No.5500366 Report

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>>5500190
In fairness, he was more of a contender before strategic voting shifted the votes away from him to the others.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+rZGQRD5 Sat 17 Dec 2022 21:32:00 No.5500502 Report

Quoted By: >>5500603

>>5500097
Based and monkewashed. BQM will be happy to hear this.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:y9pRLmsi Sat 17 Dec 2022 23:38:33 No.5500603 Report

Quoted By: >>5500623

>>5500502
Well, i'd certainly be proud of making a quest memorable enough to cause dreams. Not many can claim that.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:NG5v27l4 Sun 18 Dec 2022 00:00:40 No.5500623 Report

Quoted By: >>5500661

>>5500603
I was implying sinister mind control, actually.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Sun 18 Dec 2022 00:49:48 No.5500661 Report

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>>5500623
Either way, something to be proud of.

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sun 18 Dec 2022 02:54:43 No.5500791 Report

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You have decided to pass the torch to another; an Alpha-Male Jaxtian. He is a powerful man, accomplished warrior, and will be a great leader. Bantam Falathane.

”Bantam, I choose you to succeed me. You will inherit my Hegemony, but also my enemies.”
”My enemies will be ended.”
”That is why I picked you.”

You were very split between Bantam and Maktana's clone son, in all honesty. Both men would be excellent leaders to advance and defend the Hegemony. Your own son, Yino, is of great value in his own right... to you especially. But in the coming uncertain times? Perhaps it's not for the best.

You pass on the Hegemonic Medallion- and with it the much sought symbol of Supremacy and of your most coveted office. With the succession now complete, you can return to a simpler, better life. Wrix's time as Supreme Ruler is ended... finally. What a relief.

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sun 18 Dec 2022 02:55:44 No.5500793 Report

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Your name is now Radjo Berax. Over the course of what has been your life- you've failed in many pursuits. You failed to bodybuild, you failed to live up to your father's incredible example of masculinity as a warrior, and you failed to get your teenage crush. But you've succeeded in another way. After decades of careful study and mentorship- you have become the first sighted Jaxtian to gain the powers of Starsight!

You've always been a physical, visual person. This is a depth of thought and feeling that went deeper then you thought you were capable of. After many years of quiet meditation, study, and practice you feel as though some part of your conscious mind is “beyond” the physical, the animal, and you can now explore the stars the way the blind do.

Tetak Kallas, the disgraced Starseer, taught you how to tap into your mind. Mostly, as an experiment to see if it was even possible.

”Congratulations, Radjo. We had to pull some strings with Cijan to even get you into the exam; they wouldn't even accept a person with functioning eyes!”
“Thank you, Tetak. But how did you know this was even possible?”
”To tell you the truth Radjo, I didn't know. I simply had a hunch. It's kind of silly; but in many ways here, Andoen, was the birthplace of Starsight. When the Hegemony discovered the ruins of the race of giants- they also found the first maps of Starsight. It is obvious this race of aliens had the ability. But it made me think; if they had three eyes, how could their brains be wired the same as a two-eyed creature, as with most intelligent species we've discovered? They'd have to be much more advanced in the visual cortex. It was always believed there is a bit of convergent and mutually-exclusive brain structures that lead to either Starsight or Visual Processing. But these aliens proved that can't be true. Why does blindness specifically allow or disallow for Starsight? Even Kimnan II, the first Starseer, could still process some visual light data through his damaged eyes at some point in his life even after he gained his abilities. Even if being able to see somehow blocked Starsight development; how could blinding a sighted creature unlock an ability that would otherwise be incapable of? It'd be like blinding a deaf animal and expecting it to be able to hear. It didn't make sense to me. So I had to know for sure.”
“I mean, I spent half of my life to discover this ability. I think blinding someone may actually be a lot more efficient... Though I don't regret it in the slightest.”
”You're right. It's a parlor trick at this point- but we've proven it can be done. Perhaps in the future, training procedures and eugenics can make Starsight an innate ability of all Jaxtians- or just easier to gain through training...”

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sun 18 Dec 2022 02:56:44 No.5500794 Report

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It was only a few weeks after you gained the abilities of Starsight fully and were fully licensed as a Starseer and navigator that Tetak was practicing in the meditation room. He told you he was searching for the largest presences; like the ones of the Seeker “ship minds”, before he heard him whispering aloud.

”...What are you? You aren't just a worm.”

Tetak fell down, and his body began to sieze.

“Tetak? Tetak!? Are you okay? What's happening!?”
”GGGUuhhhggghAHHHGGGGGGGGGGG!”

In the combat simulators, you've often heard people dying- Jaxtians and Esaal alike. They are created in startling realism and as shocking as possible to desensitize soldiers to the horrors of war. His scream was nothing like that- it sounded like his soul was just ripped from his body.

“Somebody get help- Quick! Tetak, can you hear me???”
”....Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I?...”

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sun 18 Dec 2022 02:58:08 No.5500795 Report

Quoted By: >>5501144

It was only a few weeks after you gained the abilities of Starsight fully and were fully licensed as a Starseer and navigator that Tetak was practicing in the meditation room. He told you he was searching for the largest presences; like the ones of the Seeker “ship minds”, before he heard him whispering aloud.

”...What are you? You aren't just a worm.”

Tetak fell down, and his body began to sieze.

“Tetak? Tetak!? Are you okay? What's happening!?”
”GGGUuhhhggghAHHHGGGGGGGGGGG!”

In the combat simulators, you've often heard people dying- Jaxtians and Esaal alike. They are created in startling realism and as shocking as possible to desensitize soldiers to the horrors of war. His scream was nothing like that- it sounded like his soul was just ripped from his body.

“Somebody get help- Quick! Tetak, can you hear me???”
”....Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I?...”

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sun 18 Dec 2022 03:04:15 No.5500800 Report

Quoted By: >>5500804 >>5500906 >>5500953 >>5500995 >>5501144 >>5501156 >>5501250 >>5501259 >>5501287

=================================
Hey everyone, thanks for playing this episode of Space Monke Quest!

Archive Link- https://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/2022/5476181/

I know this and the previous thread were really divisive and tumultuous. We finally managed to get around to "returning to form" with this thread, which I am happy for. Like I said before; I had to wrap up 3+ sidequest threads worth of characters, content, and storylines to a satisfying conclusion. Though I suppose if it was satisfying or not is up to you. In many ways I got very frustrated with some of the playerbase for not trusting the process and having no patience at all, when I've explained multiple times the Yuan saga can't be wrapped up in a single post- but I should not have taken this out on everyone. Glad that's over. Until the next shitstorm. I hope you liked the conclusions and reveals we finally got around to getting- many of which (like the Farro thing) being planned for literally half a year or more now.

Feel free to ask any questions you may have and when I get some time I'll answer them. Thanks again.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sun 18 Dec 2022 03:07:29 No.5500804 Report

Quoted By: >>5500902 >>5501435

>>5500800
Thank you for running, Bananas. I have been enjoying what I've read since the "return to form." That said, I do wish certain players would be more civil and accepting of inevitable philosophical differences in a quest like this. Not your fault, though.

>Questions
Will we get to design Bantam's robe?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+DnQ83vY Sun 18 Dec 2022 04:34:12 No.5500902 Report

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>>5500804
What secret projects would the other candidates for overseer of infrastructure unlock?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+DnQ83vY Sun 18 Dec 2022 04:35:22 No.5500906 Report

Quoted By: >>5501435

>>5500800
>questions
What secret projects would the other candidates for overseer of infrastructure unlock?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Sun 18 Dec 2022 05:09:21 No.5500953 Report

Quoted By: >>5500995 >>5501435

>>5500800
Are there any Hegemonians who don't agree with the "standard line?" It seems like pretty much most everyone has the exact same moral values which I find dull. The fact that there was this huge genocide by a Supreme he came to power under questionable circumstances but we didn't see any of the other characters thoughts our reactions to I would think a mistake

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sun 18 Dec 2022 05:44:21 No.5500995 Report

Quoted By: >>5501059 >>5501435

>>5500953
I am a bit sad we never got to see Wrix and Kima meet, if only to discuss her feelings as to that fateful decision she made in retrospect.

I suspect most of the "free-thinkers" and dissenters died, hid their hearts, or fled to the HVS. This includes Yuan'tul's own son, which renders Wrix's victory speech about ending his lineage ironically incorrect.

>>5500800
>Another question
Did any Blue Hazaar survive in the HVS? They were Cijan's choice for the main settlers, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Sun 18 Dec 2022 06:40:16 No.5501059 Report

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>>5500995
That reminds me, I am shocked Cijan didn't have more of a reaction when the guy he bowed to literally gunned down his legacy.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Sun 18 Dec 2022 08:23:00 No.5501144 Report

Quoted By: >>5501435

>>5500795
Oh, damn. Definitely something we might need to contact the seekers about?
...Is this a harbinger of the arrival of the 'Cyte'?

>>5500800
>Questions
What did Minn Oles end up doing with his life? And would he have had better chances appeasing the aristocrats if we'd bought him along and left him behind, or would they just have made a different type of Jaxtian 'instrument'?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Sun 18 Dec 2022 08:47:20 No.5501156 Report

Quoted By: >>5501199 >>5501435

>>5500800
Why was Wrixs' dad so scared of him? Did he do something to his own mom?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sun 18 Dec 2022 10:30:04 No.5501199 Report

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>>5501156
I imagine it is terrifying to realize you have fathered a monstrous god-king who now dominates you and all your race utterly.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:j/pOD37H Sun 18 Dec 2022 11:56:20 No.5501250 Report

Quoted By: >>5501435

>>5500800
Why did bluey just kinda...allow the HVS to become some sort of capitalist playground, again? I can even understand Wrix not attacking them, but it makes no sense for Bluey, loyal as he is, to just suddenly turn the HVS into Ancapistan.

Would be also nice to see how his kid is going, he should be around the age of the other candidates.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sun 18 Dec 2022 12:10:33 No.5501259 Report

Quoted By: >>5501435

>>5500800
What was the secret this time?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XOpjY2Kr Sun 18 Dec 2022 13:40:23 No.5501287 Report

Quoted By: >>5501435

>>5500800
Good to see you back in good form, Bananas.
A question: did Wrix decide to abandon the office because that many players complained about him, or was it purely because the mask (and monkeyharp) mentally wore him off?

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Sun 18 Dec 2022 17:21:18 No.5501435 Report

Quoted By: >>5501444 >>5501445 >>5501446 >>5501450 >>5501466 >>5501484 >>5501526 >>5501546 >>5501559 >>5501562 >>5501614 >>5501882 >>5502464

>>5500804
No. That was kind of a "Wrix" thing, though I'm not against letting you design more robes in the future.

>>5500906
Telaan (Wrix's Dad) would have given some progress to battleships. Clok would have challenged Wrix for the throne, which was one of the "hidden" choices to end his reign early.

>>5500953
>>5500995
Mostly it's meant to be implied that only people with Supreme-Tier training weren't brainfucked by the Mask. Of course standard Jaxtians don't agree, but they are silenced or manipulated as to never share or even be able to put into words these larger opinions. It isn't quite equal to Doublespeak, but it's close.

>>5500995
Yes, there are many of them there.

>>5501144
Minn was a bit of a "gimmie" one off character. I never had much thoughts on what he did, besides drawing the Akira reference one Anon wanted. Most of his accomplishments were already finished by the time you could have chosen him to be a part of the Crusade; he was a daredevil after all.

>>5501156
You know why.

>>5501250
That's a fair question. Partially it was QM fiat'd as a way to give some characters a chance to escape and not just everyone getting killed off- plus it also leads the way for more political interactions in the future that aren't just "attack X alien race". The other idea is that the HVS is a collection of Hazaar businesses and coalitions reunited after the Baalathi destroyed them, so Bluey sort of ran with that to rebuild everything. Even so, it is much more authoritarian and less capitalistic then modern day, but it's kind of meant to be a lawless favela. It's the penal colony for the Hegemony's riff-raff.

>>5501259
There is no secret.

>>5501287
I mean I gave opportunities to have Wrix assassinated or dethroned hidden in the choices above; the idea being since he was unpopular it would be a way for players to get rid of him. As for him quitting, the mask is supposed to cause a lot of trauma simply by wearing it and doing what is expected of an Unspeakable. IC it was seeing what happened to Farro that broke the last straw.

Now I'll ask some of my own questions for anyone still sticking around;
>How do you like the names? For monkies or other characters? Names are really hard but I feel like using regular human names wouldn't fit.
>Does the large time scale, especially in regards to warfare and politics, in any way strain your immersion in the Quest? Esaal and Hegemony have basically been sparring for a century at this point; its somewhat unrealistic their technology and positions would stall so much, but I figure that would be better then the alternative to something like an endless thread #6 where characters don't have a chance to grow old or be replaced because of how much more detail is needed for a focused war.
>For those of you that did not like Part 7, has the full context of the events + the resolution during this thread made you like Part 7 more? Or is your opinion unchanged?

Indonesian Gentleman

Indonesian Gentleman ID:r9WIfQgb Sun 18 Dec 2022 17:30:30 No.5501440 Report

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>>5499782
>>5499787
>Hegemony
>Tossing shit sunwards
I propose we name the machine "Jangala".

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Y1UTsiJY Sun 18 Dec 2022 17:31:39 No.5501444 Report

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>>5501435
>>How do you like the names? For monkies or other characters? Names are really hard but I feel like using regular human names wouldn't fit.
Amazing.

>Does the large time scale, especially in regards to warfare and politics, in any way strain your immersion in the Quest? Esaal and Hegemony have basically been sparring for a century at this point; its somewhat unrealistic their technology and positions would stall so much, but I figure that would be better then the alternative to something like an endless thread #6 where characters don't have a chance to grow old or be replaced because of how much more detail is needed for a focused war.
Long time span is what makes the quest nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:j/pOD37H Sun 18 Dec 2022 17:31:55 No.5501445 Report

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>>5501435
>How do you like the names?
I certainly like the monkey names, they feel like actual names while being original.
>Does the large time scale, especially in regards to warfare and politics, in any way strain your immersion in the Quest?
Not really, i suppose it's understandable that empires with light years between them and basically limitless resources might take longer to go to war. Obviously though, sometimes you need to slow down time

For example, Eoba's reign was great, and I'd consider him my second favorite ruler after Vantix Garastra. It's obvious that once we go to war things have to slow down, but otherwise, the time is good.
>For those of you that did not like Part 7, has the full context of the events + the resolution during this thread made you like Part 7 more?
Not really.

Cijan's death was still kinda stupid, Wrix never actually had an personality beyond being tired, and i still hate the vetucker genocide for how dumb it was.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:C+28kb2C Sun 18 Dec 2022 17:34:23 No.5501446 Report

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>>5501435
>Names

They're fine, nothing too weird and feel appropriate.

>Large time scale

I don't mind the long timescale, but I do also enjoy the moments like with Kimnan in the first Baalathi war.

Overall I enjoyed part 7 and have been having fun in general. Thanks for running Bananas.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:j/pOD37H Sun 18 Dec 2022 17:37:23 No.5501450 Report

Quoted By: >>5501563

>>5501435
>it also leads the way for more political interactions in the future that aren't just "attack X alien race"
Well, there's not exactly much else to do when all the other alien states are a bunch of psychopathic lunatics. There are probably other ways to get non-hostile interactions without having to keep a state that goes against everything the hegemony stands for no reason

Like, if it was just some rogue state i would understand, but they're literally being led by our most loyal servant to ever live.

Indonesian Gentleman

Indonesian Gentleman ID:r9WIfQgb Sun 18 Dec 2022 17:53:44 No.5501466 Report

Quoted By: >>5501472

>>5501435
>names
I like em, they sound 'correct' and kinda follows their own logic. Could be put in a Stellaris name list mod-tier.

>large time scale
Not really, space opera had always have this stretchy sense of time - and waging interstellar war isn't a quick business. Iirc in the Three-Body Problem trilogy, the Trisolarans took like 400 years to arrive on Earth. They had to send the Sophons - particle-sized supercomputers - to sabotage humanity's science efforts just so humans can't surpass them when they come.
Then there is also Star Wars with its 'decaying future' thing, where galactic technology is stagnant or declining due to the unstable political situation - so a stagnancy in tech while Unspeakable things happen is a given.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:j/pOD37H Sun 18 Dec 2022 17:55:33 No.5501472 Report

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>>5501466
>Could be put in a Stellaris name list mod-tier.
Now that sounds something fun to do if you knew, an Stellaris Hegemony mod. I don't, though

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sun 18 Dec 2022 18:07:58 No.5501484 Report

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>>5501435
>How do you like the names? For monkies or other characters? Names are really hard but I feel like using regular human names wouldn't fit.
I like them! Is there a reason all the aliens have a double-a motif in the name?

>Does the large time scale, especially in regards to warfare and politics, in any way strain your immersion in the Quest? Esaal and Hegemony have basically been sparring for a century at this point; its somewhat unrealistic their technology and positions would stall so much, but I figure that would be better then the alternative to something like an endless thread #6 where characters don't have a chance to grow old or be replaced because of how much more detail is needed for a focused war.
I think it makes sense that empires' technological growth and expansion actions might seem slow on our timescale. If France and England can fight a Hundred Years War with fairly slow technological developments, much larger space empires could jockey for similar periods with similar stagnation.

>For those of you that did not like Part 7, has the full context of the events + the resolution during this thread made you like Part 7 more? Or is your opinion unchanged?
Unchanged, I'm afraid. I didn't hate it, but there were... Issues, outside of any personal feelings about in-story events. The tail end of this thread, however, did a lot to return the quest to the sort of vibe I'd been missing for a couple threads now, mainly by returning us to a more direct control of events.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sun 18 Dec 2022 19:07:31 No.5501526 Report

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>>5501435
>Names
Really good. No complaints.

>Time scale
It's what makes this quest fun, as evidenced by the lukewarm response to Thread 6. I've never cared all that much about realism.

>Part 7
Unchanged, I still hate it. I'm a little confused about what was supposed to change our minds.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sun 18 Dec 2022 19:37:00 No.5501546 Report

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>>5501435
>How do you like the names? For monkies or other characters? Names are really hard but I feel like using regular human names wouldn't fit.
I really like the names. Regular human names would indeed not fit.
>Does the large time scale, especially in regards to warfare and politics, in any way strain your immersion in the Quest? Esaal and Hegemony have basically been sparring for a century at this point; its somewhat unrealistic their technology and positions would stall so much, but I figure that would be better then the alternative to something like an endless thread #6 where characters don't have a chance to grow old or be replaced because of how much more detail is needed for a focused war.
I'm used to 4x games where wars can last for centuries, so the time scale is very much a positive in my eyes.
>For those of you that did not like Part 7, has the full context of the events + the resolution during this thread made you like Part 7 more? Or is your opinion unchanged?
No, I still really hate how everything turned out in part 7. The latter part of Wrix's reign was somewhat better, though still tainted by what happened early on. I'm hoping Bantam, a supreme that we actually chose even if he wasn't my personal choice, will be a return to more enjoyable monkey shenanigans.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Sun 18 Dec 2022 20:13:28 No.5501559 Report

Quoted By: >>5501560 >>5501725 >>5501742

>>5501435
>I mean I gave opportunities to have Wrix assassinated or dethroned hidden in the choices above
Hidden options shouldn't be counted as "options given" because the voters didn't know they were voting on the possibility of removing Wrix

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:j/pOD37H Sun 18 Dec 2022 20:15:39 No.5501560 Report

Quoted By: >>5501568

>>5501559
Pretty much, yeah

I'm certain a whole lot more people would have voted for Clok if they knew he could be used to take out Wrix. I mean, i understand hidden options, but there has to be *some* hinting towards that kind of stuff...

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Sun 18 Dec 2022 20:16:47 No.5501562 Report

Quoted By: >>5501725 >>5501742

>>5501435
>How do you like the names? For monkies or other characters? Names are really hard but I feel like using regular human names wouldn't fit.
You have developed a lexical style that fits.
>Does the large time scale, especially in regards to warfare and politics, in any way strain your immersion in the Quest? Esaal and Hegemony have basically been sparring for a century at this point; its somewhat unrealistic their technology and positions would stall so much, but I figure that would be better then the alternative to something like an endless thread #6 where characters don't have a chance to grow old or be replaced because of how much more detail is needed for a focused war.
The timescale I feel is TOO short. We have been with Wrix for basically a thread and a third with no major plot developments since the Genocide. It feels like the pacing has slowed.
>For those of you that did not like Part 7, has the full context of the events + the resolution during this thread made you like Part 7 more? Or is your opinion unchanged?
I dislike how things just went back to normal. This big huge genocide and almost nothing really changed it was like those people just never existed. I would have preferred internal conflict against Wrix, and votes on dealing with the fallout of what he had done. The HVS was a ripe story opportunity for something like that as was Kima but both were faded into the background pretty quickly and it seems Kima had the majority of her life pass by off screen.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Sun 18 Dec 2022 20:17:56 No.5501563 Report

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>>5501450
Also, all we did was "attack x alien race" ANYWAY.

We didn't interact with the HVS all thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Sun 18 Dec 2022 20:24:29 No.5501568 Report

Quoted By: >>5501571

>>5501560
I guess the hinting was supposed to be his description as "Ambitious," but that's still a leap. I think most people assumed he'd cause general problems, not outright coup Wrix.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:j/pOD37H Sun 18 Dec 2022 20:26:06 No.5501571 Report

Quoted By: >>5501585

>>5501568
I certainly didn't think he would have challenged wrix

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Sun 18 Dec 2022 20:43:34 No.5501585 Report

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>>5501571
Yep, me neither

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:AWJFBhXH Sun 18 Dec 2022 21:05:49 No.5501614 Report

Quoted By: >>5501725 >>5501742

>>5501435
>I feel like using regular human names wouldn't fit.
I agree, the names you use are fucking perfect for blue space monke imo. So good that I didn't even think much about them cause they just kinda fall in place.
>Does the large time scale, especially in regards to warfare and politics, in any way strain your immersion in the Quest?
I wouldn't say it affects my immersion, because I don't concern myself with in-depth xenoanalysis, but it certainly feels like things happen faster than they do in-universe. Especially when the time skips are interwoven with real-time situations that require multiple updates (like the coup). In this regard, maybe adding some background info/story of the characters aging and how their lives change would help put emphasis on the fact that sometimes it's entire decades that pass?
>For those of you that did not like Part 7, has the full context of the events + the resolution during this thread made you like Part 7 more?
I have joined during the Great Sperging of Thread 7 and have no strong opinions either way.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sun 18 Dec 2022 23:35:33 No.5501725 Report

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>>5501559
This. Hiding important options and dramatic consequences behind obscure or cryptic cause-and-effect chains is one ofnthe "issues" I had with Thread 7. I would never have guessed (for example) that the vote for whether Cijan took command or not would result in either a Vetucker and Swall genocide OR in Masked Cijan erasing Jaxtian culture and raping Kima.

>>5501562
>We have been with Wrix for basically a thread and a third with no major plot developments since the Genocide. It feels like the pacing has slowed.
>>5501614
> wouldn't say it affects my immersion, because I don't concern myself with in-depth xenoanalysis, but it certainly feels like things happen faster than they do in-universe. Especially when the time skips are interwoven with real-time situations that require multiple updates (like the coup). In this regard, maybe adding some background info/story of the characters aging and how their lives change would help put emphasis on the fact that sometimes it's entire decades that pass?

Onnthe other handn I don't really relate with these sentiments. Between all the kids coming of age, Tetak and Radjo aging, Wrix's deterioration, planetary developed, new technologies such as the sealyh fleet an planet-city, I feel like things have happened at a good pace both personally and societally. To me it FEELS like a new golden age.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Sun 18 Dec 2022 23:51:34 No.5501742 Report

Quoted By: >>5501840 >>5502084

>>5501559
This. Hiding important options and dramatic consequences behind obscure or cryptic cause-and-effect chains is one of the "issues" I had with Thread 7. I would never have guessed (for example) that the vote for whether Cijan took command or not would result in either a Vetucker and Swall genocide OR in Masked Cijan erasing Jaxtian culture and raping Kima.

>>5501562
>We have been with Wrix for basically a thread and a third with no major plot developments since the Genocide. It feels like the pacing has slowed.
>>5501614
> wouldn't say it affects my immersion, because I don't concern myself with in-depth xenoanalysis, but it certainly feels like things happen faster than they do in-universe. Especially when the time skips are interwoven with real-time situations that require multiple updates (like the coup). In this regard, maybe adding some background info/story of the characters aging and how their lives change would help put emphasis on the fact that sometimes it's entire decades that pass?

On the other hand I don't really relate with these sentiments. Between all the kids coming of age, Tetak and Radjo aging, Wrix's deterioration, planetary developed, new technologies such as the stealth fleet an planet-city, I feel like things have happened at a good pace both personally and societally. To me it FEELS like a new golden age.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Mon 19 Dec 2022 01:37:41 No.5501840 Report

Quoted By: >>5502084

>>5501742
>On the other hand I don't really relate with these sentiments. Between all the kids coming of age, Tetak and Radjo aging, Wrix's deterioration, planetary developed, new technologies such as the stealth fleet an planet-city, I feel like things have happened at a good pace both personally and societally. To me it FEELS like a new golden age.
It didn't feel like that to me because the kids aged in the background but it didn't affect anything. We had two battles that were inconsequential (as in things happening) like we got the stealth craft but we didn't use it for anything.
The planet city is being built but we haven't had any scenes set in it or the like. Tetrak had a cool development but it was at the end of the thread.

Felt way too decompress.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rZIgfzk1 Mon 19 Dec 2022 02:20:23 No.5501882 Report

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>>5501435
How do you like the names? For monkies or other characters? Names are really hard but I feel like using regular human names wouldn't fit.

>The names are good

Does the large time scale, especially in regards to warfare and politics, in any way strain your immersion in the Quest? Esaal and Hegemony have basically been sparring for a century at this point; its somewhat unrealistic their technology and positions would stall so much, but I figure that would be better then the alternative to something like an endless thread #6 where characters don't have a chance to grow old or be replaced because of how much more detail is needed for a focused war.

>We haven't had any massive Azimov's Foundation style time skips. I'm fine with the time scale of the space opera in general. Men fought with shield and spear for a long time. I'm fine with moving at the speed of narrative.

For those of you that did not like Part 7, has the full context of the events + the resolution during this thread made you like Part 7 more? Or is your opinion unchanged?

>I didn't hate thread 7. While I think that thread 8 is more in line with earlier threads, I do not believe that it resolved the genocide arc in a 'grand plan' sort of way, it just moved past the arc (which is probably all you can do at this point).

Why do I think that the genocide caused such as fuss?

1. It was a large, unexpected, internal change that the playerbase didn't vote for. There also wasn't a ramping trajectory towards sweeping alien genocide while barely touching the Monkes.

1A. We didn't choose Wrix (I guess we could have chosen Cjan instead). Felt like false choices.

2. The move took pieces off the board and thus limits the potential narratives. It seems odd to prune these narratives when people are engaging favorably.

3. The character motivations don't make sense. Why exterminate these aliens? Why allow political enemies to flee to a foreign power base when the point of the purge is to eliminate political factions? Why not have Bluey, known for his loyalty to the Hegemony, purge the refugees? It feels like Wrix killed those who were not a danger to the Hegemony rather than those who were a danger. How autonomous is the HVS? The Hegemony has resisted the possibility of autonomy at every step since it first reached into space. It seems like the Hegemony would seek to impose at least high level controls on the HVS, even if it hasn't spent the resources to plant Threes on all of the subordinate worlds. Bluey appears to have had absolute power, and little restraint, so why was that power not used against the fleeing traitors to the Hegemony? I think that they should have fled to the Consortium or the Aristocrats or some other space empire where they could have had a more cogent story. It does make me question how much power Threes has. Apparently not enough to prevent defections.

I would have gone into population limit philosophy, but hit char limit.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SCN/oQao Mon 19 Dec 2022 06:36:09 No.5502084 Report

Quoted By: >>5502091

>>5501742
What >>5501840 said. It's about the fact those small things are rarely ever mentioned and could use extra exposure. And it wouldn't hurt to hear more about other plot-unrelated monkes (and maybe how they see big events unfolding from their basement) to provide extra points of reference.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Mon 19 Dec 2022 06:45:08 No.5502091 Report

Quoted By: >>5502104 >>5502185 >>5502332

>>5502084
Speaking only for myself, but also anecdotally from observation, I and some other players seem to prefer a more distant and top-down approach to the game, with some of the biggest shitstorms having erupted (and my personal enjoyment having been diminished) in response to close of focus on individual characters reflecting on controversial events or interpretations: Yuan'tul's aggrieved cultural analyses, Kima's Supreme training and the "one danbomark" argument, as well as her mom's confrontation with the sexist AI, Akule's racial and sexual rants, the Vetucker abortion debate, Wrix's speech to his son.

Do we really want it to be a bigger focus, pulling attention away from civ development?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:SCN/oQao Mon 19 Dec 2022 06:58:49 No.5502104 Report

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>>5502091
Yeah I don't mean adding any extra controversial material and shifting focus, just hearing about how time affects monkes' lives if a long time has passed, it could also do for a better introduction after timeskips than "Youz Wrix, it's been 15 years since last big decision".

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:/aC60vW/ Mon 19 Dec 2022 10:26:50 No.5502185 Report

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>>5502091
That sounds less like 'character focus causes arguing' and 'political stuff causes argueing'

I don't think anybody was against seeing Kimnan fighting balaathi or Eoba's duel with the worm.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Mon 19 Dec 2022 15:56:18 No.5502332 Report

Quoted By: >>5502389 >>5502612

>>5502091
But we aren't even getting real civ development

At the start of the thread Wrix was in charge, a genocide had been carried out, Cijan was an advisor, Bluey and Kima we're in the HVS and we were in a cold war with the Esaal

At the end of the thread all those things were still true.

The only major developments came at the literal last vote with a new Supreme and the Tektak cliffhanger.

It doesn't matter if characters age or get married or the like if it doesn't effect the narrative a lot of this thread felt like treading water. What was accomplished? What actually changed?

The Hegemony at the end of Wrix's reign and it's relationship with foreign powers is nigh identical to how it was at the end of the Genocide.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Mon 19 Dec 2022 17:28:07 No.5502389 Report

Quoted By: >>5502433

>>5502332
At the start of the thread Bluey was a Haazar and single, by the end of the thread he's been turned into a Jaxtian, partnered with Kima and fathered at least one child.

At the start of the thread Swall was a desolated, recovering world; it is now the basis for our most recent megastructure project.

At the start of the thread, Stealth cruisers were something the Esaal had and we did not. In this one thread we've caught up and then surpassed them; we can now use these to go 'Mass Effect Normandy' and Drop our Commando teams (or potential skinsuit infiltrators, another tech that might soon unlock) nearly anywhere in reachable space.

Plus... the THREEMIND finally went live, and we've been working on that project since nearly the start of Eoba's reign as a replacement for Alvais.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Mon 19 Dec 2022 19:05:17 No.5502433 Report

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>>5502389
>At the start of the thread Bluey was a Haazar and single, by the end of the thread he's been turned into a Jaxtian, partnered with Kima and fathered at least one child.
Those are developments in his personal life that didn't affect the game or the Hegemony overall in this thread. There were no in-game effects of the change , it might as well have been background lore. (You could argue the in game effect was us using the charge on him and not something more relevant but I don't think a change is something that DIDN'T happen)

>At the start of the thread Swall was a desolated, recovering world; it is now the basis for our most recent megastructure project.
The city isn't built yet and we haven't seen any developments from it's building. That's something that will (hopefully) pay off next thread but we didn't see anything come of it this thread

>At the start of the thread, Stealth cruisers were something the Esaal had and we did not. In this one thread we've caught up and then surpassed them; we can now use these to go 'Mass Effect Normandy' and Drop our Commando teams (or potential skinsuit infiltrators, another tech that might soon unlock) nearly anywhere in reachable space.
Again we haven't don't anything with these stealth cruisers

Threemind going live was a development and we actually got to use it to fit rid of the spies.

All the other things were basically just set up. I would prefer entertaining things happen in the thread we are playing. Not call forwards that we won't see pay off for a month +.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:/aC60vW/ Mon 19 Dec 2022 19:22:45 No.5502444 Report

Quoted By: >>5503157

Y'know, the worst part of the hegemony being all atheist is that there's no monke christmas. How sad. How will cranky old government bureaucrats learn to enjoy life and share?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Mon 19 Dec 2022 19:41:18 No.5502464 Report

Quoted By: >>5502468

>>5501435
The large time scale was jarring, it felt like we were speed running and not getting as much narrative or character development for the time displaced.

>For those of you that did not like Part 7, has the full context of the events + the resolution during this thread made you like Part 7 more? Or is your opinion unchanged?
Unchanged. I’ll get to why later on.

Also
>Clok would have challenged Wrix for the throne, which was one of the "hidden" choices to end his reign early.
>There is no secret.
I want to make it clear that I consider that a secret.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Mon 19 Dec 2022 19:44:55 No.5502468 Report

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>>5502464
>I want to make it clear that I consider that a secret.
Pretty sure Bananas meant that in the specific sense of "an option with a hidden 'optimal' write-in," like giving Ingar II his cloned waifu or making the Migrators the ship navigators. I agree that Clok being a reign-ender was hidden information, but it's not in a category with the first two.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Mon 19 Dec 2022 23:02:41 No.5502612 Report

Quoted By: >>5502664

>>5502332
We settled another star-system, advanced military technology, explored what it means to be a Jaxtian and learned the limits of the Life Machine, acquired BAG and Azurium, decided what to do with genocided worlds,and resolved several personal arcs, then introduced the next generation. To me, that's plenty.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Tue 20 Dec 2022 00:16:26 No.5502664 Report

Quoted By: >>5502668

>>5502612
>We settled another star-system, advanced military technology, explored what it means to be a Jaxtian and learned the limits of the Life Machine
From my point of view collecting things like planets, new tech etc doesn't really matter until it actually effects the story.

Saying we have a new star system doesn't mean anything to me until something happens to or with it . Meeting the Swalli was an event, but then nothing happened with them for two threads and they all died.

"Exploring what it means to be a Jataxian" I wouldn't consider without the effects of that social shift on our society, politics, foreign relations etc. Same with the new city. I think "playing" with the toys is a lot more important than "getting" the toys if that makes sense. All that new military tech isn't story relevant until we actually use it after all

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Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Tue 20 Dec 2022 00:19:36 No.5502668 Report

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>>5502664
Fair enough, I guess. Not a lot of payoffs this thread, but rather mainly set-up. That's fine to me, but I guess not to you. Sometimes threads just be like that in quests, in my experience, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fuMxXr3h Tue 20 Dec 2022 08:33:08 No.5503157 Report

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>>5502444
Dangerous thinking.

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Tue 20 Dec 2022 17:57:48 No.5503533 Report

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Anonymous ID:gQmxrzHI Tue 20 Dec 2022 18:19:22 No.5503552 Report

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>>5503533
A Monkey Carol, coming to a theater near you.

Starring Hwat Dulioan as Marley.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Tue 20 Dec 2022 18:40:26 No.5503587 Report

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>>5503533
Kek.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Tue 20 Dec 2022 18:51:39 No.5503591 Report

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>>5503533
lmao
This has made me like Wrix a bit more.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:BhTzbXnl Tue 20 Dec 2022 20:14:29 No.5503665 Report

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>>5503533
It isn’t Christmas yet
It is Hanukkah though

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Tue 20 Dec 2022 20:18:05 No.5503670 Report

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>>5503533
kek & check'd

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:uF3O+xG7 Tue 20 Dec 2022 20:23:13 No.5503675 Report

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>>5503533
Holy fucking kino. Based Wrix, best side panel ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Tue 20 Dec 2022 20:33:15 No.5503682 Report

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Wrix killed his own mom. I think..

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Tue 20 Dec 2022 20:37:51 No.5503688 Report

Quoted By: >>5503788

>>5503533
Literally a Darkseid comic.

I think Wrix could have been more entertaining if he was played up moree as a heel. Go full De Doom Skelator Sauron evil Overlord with him

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RvWkDZRA Tue 20 Dec 2022 22:20:36 No.5503788 Report

Quoted By: >>5503834 >>5503896 >>5503913 >>5503926

>>5503688
>I think Wrix could have been more entertaining if he was played up moree as a heel
I don't think so, the reason why wrix wasn't really written was because the genocide was something that pretty much no one liked, so it ended up giving him a bad image, so we kinda just went through the whole thing wanting to get rid of him as soon as possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Tue 20 Dec 2022 23:17:51 No.5503834 Report

Quoted By: >>5503855 >>5503868 >>5503913

>>5503788
>the genocide was something that pretty much no one liked
Damn, it really was, wasn't it?

>Xenophile anons: Mad that all the aliens got nuked
>Xenophobic anons: Mad that all the aliens got nuked except for the one species they actually wanted nuked

Truly the perfect shitstorm.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Tue 20 Dec 2022 23:31:50 No.5503855 Report

Quoted By: >>5503913

>>5503834
Don't forget
>Liberal anons: Mad that innocents got nuked
>Authoritarian anons: Mad that dissidents got away.

It really was perfectly designed to piss off everybody.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RvWkDZRA Tue 20 Dec 2022 23:38:15 No.5503868 Report

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>>5503834
Pretty much, yeah. The one species i actually wanted dead is alive, and the one species i wanted alive is dead.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:coCUqod+ Tue 20 Dec 2022 23:56:44 No.5503896 Report

Quoted By: >>5503905

>>5503788
I liked him, I liked how he wasn't just the Mask and we got to rule as him for a time without it. He also got a bit of characterization, though not as much as his contemporaries.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RvWkDZRA Wed 21 Dec 2022 00:04:03 No.5503905 Report

Quoted By: >>5503929

>>5503896
>I liked how he wasn't just the Mask
Wrix literally only had like two personality traits post mask, eyebags, and justifying what he did with the mask.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:3sAcVKL4 Wed 21 Dec 2022 00:09:13 No.5503913 Report

Quoted By: >>5503915

>>5503788
>>5503834
>>5503855
I liked genocide and liked Wrix. He was relatable as fuck with how confused he was at the start and how tired he was by the end of his reign.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RvWkDZRA Wed 21 Dec 2022 00:12:03 No.5503915 Report

Quoted By: >>5503919

>>5503913
Maybe his tiredness would have been more appealing if the whole situation wasn't so stupid

He felt like a worse version of agori, at least agori was a cool caligula like character who got brought down in a cool way. Wrix just created his own problems, fucked everything up, and then retired.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:3sAcVKL4 Wed 21 Dec 2022 00:21:30 No.5503919 Report

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>>5503915
>Wrix just created his own problems, fucked everything up, and then retired.
Absolutely based. And he only retired because he couldn't stand seeing his family member get hurt. What a chad.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Wed 21 Dec 2022 00:32:44 No.5503926 Report

Quoted By: >>5503948 >>5503959

>>5503788
Then the correct choice would have been to give us an option to get rid of him as soon as possible.

An actual one where we are voting to get rid of him.

Really I am mostly miffed that we had this huge upheaval at the end of the last thread and the conclusion seems pretty unsatisfying. Wrix's genocide feels more like the start of a story arc than an end to one.
Like off the top of my head we could vote for one Successor who was in line with his Genocide, one who was actively anti-Wrix and one who wanted the Hegemony to return to a Cijian status quo.

Or something for the HVS/Kima to actually do besides sit in the background as set dressing.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Wed 21 Dec 2022 00:34:05 No.5503929 Report

Quoted By: >>5503931 >>5503944

>>5503905
>Unspeakable are 0 for 2 with the fan base
Like poetry.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Wed 21 Dec 2022 00:35:05 No.5503931 Report

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>>5503929
kek

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Anonymous ID:RvWkDZRA Wed 21 Dec 2022 00:42:57 No.5503944 Report

Quoted By: >>5504044

>>5503929
I liked akule until he killed his brother for no reason

It didn't even make sense ICly, if he wanted them to stop making themselves a target, it would have made way more sense to leave someone who actually trusted him in charge to ensure it happened

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RvWkDZRA Wed 21 Dec 2022 00:44:47 No.5503948 Report

Quoted By: >>5504043

>>5503926
The genocide already ended, they're all dead, there's nothing else to "quarrel" over. Of course, the one people we wanted dead get to fucking survive.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Wed 21 Dec 2022 00:54:04 No.5503959 Report

Quoted By: >>5503960

>>5503926
Bananas said last thread that he wasn't expecting the mask/genocide to win, and I think it really shows.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RvWkDZRA Wed 21 Dec 2022 00:56:32 No.5503960 Report

Quoted By: >>5503964

>>5503959
It didn't, the mask actually got less votes than those who voted for other options, but some people wanted for wrix to make his own mask instead so despite being a minority the mask won

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Wed 21 Dec 2022 00:59:19 No.5503964 Report

Quoted By: >>5503969

>>5503960
I don't think that's true. IIRC the mask won by something like one vote.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RvWkDZRA Wed 21 Dec 2022 01:02:38 No.5503969 Report

Quoted By: >>5503970

>>5503964
No, the mask lost if you counted the votes that were for doing something other than wearing the mask, but they were split in different options

Not to mention, the mask isn't a good excuse either. Akule spared more people than Wrix. The Blondes, the Blackspots, the Southlanders...Bananas could have very well given people more choice.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oa7ox2Ca Wed 21 Dec 2022 01:04:40 No.5503970 Report

Quoted By:

>>5503969
>No, the mask lost if you counted the votes that were for doing something other than wearing the mask, but they were split in different options
If you count them together, maybe, but I'm pretty sure Bananas counted all the write-ins as "no vote" and only took the totals for the actual options. Which is a whole other """questionable""" move, but whatever.

>Bananas could have very well given people more choice.
But muh consequences!!

Indonesian Gentleman

Indonesian Gentleman ID:r9WIfQgb Wed 21 Dec 2022 01:08:52 No.5503974 Report

Quoted By: >>5503977 >>5504072

>>5503533
Hue, Wrix as Scrooge.
Who are the 3 christmas ghosts? Who's Little Tim?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RvWkDZRA Wed 21 Dec 2022 01:14:41 No.5503977 Report

Quoted By: >>5503979

>>5503974
Ghost of Christmas present is old Eoba II, aka jolly chad who rejects cynicism

Wouldn't know about past, kima is like the first major female character.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RvWkDZRA Wed 21 Dec 2022 01:21:42 No.5503979 Report

Quoted By: >>5504064 >>5504082

>>5503977
Although, i suppose Akule might work better than hwat for a "Marley" archetype, having already died and been someone Wrix looked up to and did the exact same stuff as he.

It's a bit hard to have a Tiny Tim when the hegemony prevents all the cripples/sick people from being born. Even more so it would require a Bob Scratchit, and Wrix doesn't have any real friends.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Wed 21 Dec 2022 02:31:35 No.5504043 Report

Quoted By:

>>5503948
I wanted Wrix overthrown. I think the Klox knife duel would have been a great actual vote not a secret one

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Wed 21 Dec 2022 02:33:13 No.5504044 Report

Quoted By: >>5504055

>>5503944
Akule was a piece of shit. Like if Elliott Rogers was Episode II Annikin.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RvWkDZRA Wed 21 Dec 2022 02:39:24 No.5504055 Report

Quoted By: >>5504151

>>5504044
His final decisions were retarded, but i really doubt jaxtians would have survived if not for the hegemony. Their civilization was in a pretty bad shape.

Hell, the Hegemony only managed to get to space because of how dedicated Vantix was to the task.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RvWkDZRA Wed 21 Dec 2022 02:44:09 No.5504064 Report

Quoted By: >>5504082

>>5503979
Wait, wait, i know

The ghost of Christmas past could be...Alavis. She's from the past, she's female, kind of, and she was yellow.

The ghost of christmas future is just some shadowy creature. Can't really put an character related to that, except maybe Vul Takar for his black robes.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Wed 21 Dec 2022 02:58:20 No.5504072 Report

Quoted By:

>>5503974
Vul for Past, Eoba II for Precent, Akule the Unspeakable for the Future. Little Tim would be young Kima, and Bluey would be Scrooge’s business partner/assistant.

Jale and Cijan would be present in all of the timejumps, as the eternally suffering duo Rosencrantz and Guildenstern. Whoever read Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead, you’ll understand the meme.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Wed 21 Dec 2022 03:08:19 No.5504082 Report

Quoted By: >>5504502

>>5503979
Hwat is a better Marley than not, and young Kima being Tiny Tim, since being female in the Hegemony is essentially like a crippled male.

>>5504064
Akule the Unspeakable (Masked!Akule) would be better as Christmas Future (Death). Face covered up, weapons as guiding implements, literally a great cultural abstraction of mass and personal death. It fits.

I think traditional Vul make more sense as Past Christmas, though Kijan or our first Supreme could also work. Hell, maybe even the OG Makana.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Wed 21 Dec 2022 04:21:42 No.5504151 Report

Quoted By: >>5504155 >>5504172

>>5504055
Just because a racist incel founded a nation that invented FTL doesn't mean that ONLY a racist incel could do so.

The fact there are several other starcaring nations, some more advanced than us, without the same philosophies proves Akule's philosophy wasn't the only path to utopia, let alone the optimal one.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Wed 21 Dec 2022 04:24:14 No.5504155 Report

Quoted By: >>5504168

>>5504151
They ARE all authoritarian to some degree, though. I don't know that anyone can plausibly say if that's realistic or not, but it seems to be a setting element.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Wed 21 Dec 2022 04:38:08 No.5504168 Report

Quoted By: >>5504383

>>5504155
I think I vaugelly remember BQM saying they believe all history arcs towards authoritarianism in one of the generals, but that may be apocryphal.

Oh wait I think it was "only authoritarian governments can survive in the end" I think

One of those

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Wed 21 Dec 2022 04:39:08 No.5504172 Report

Quoted By:

>>5504151
All those empires are despotic hellholes. The core feature of this universe is that there is no utopia.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:2TyvxDMO Wed 21 Dec 2022 07:43:05 No.5504383 Report

Quoted By: >>5504399

>>5504168
Yes, he has said that while he personally doesn't like authoritarianism, he believes it is inevitable.

His own quest proves him wrong though. We were on a stable, consistent liberalisation trajectory before qm fiat wiped it all out.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+tt5BV3O Wed 21 Dec 2022 08:09:14 No.5504399 Report

Quoted By: >>5504840

>>5504383
>We were on a stable, consistent liberalisation trajectory
This was talked about in the last thread too, what liberalisation? B&G showed how far the Hegemony goes to manipulate its citizens, the various pro-xenos actions were less "let's give them freedom" and more "let's get more cheap labour." Eoba II crack down hard on the secessionist and subverted the food black market that formed during the Basilisk time. Cijan fought against the limitation of the Supreme Ruler's powers.
There's no liberalisation, the Hegemony is an iron fist in a velvet glove.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:9n9Jjp/N Wed 21 Dec 2022 11:06:50 No.5504502 Report

Quoted By: >>5504543

>>5504082
>I think traditional Vul make more sense as Past Christmas
Past Christmas is some happy glittery woman, though

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Wed 21 Dec 2022 13:20:42 No.5504543 Report

Quoted By: >>5504546

>>5504502
Vul’s secret lover then ;^)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:9n9Jjp/N Wed 21 Dec 2022 13:31:42 No.5504546 Report

Quoted By: >>5504553

>>5504543
Might as well be alavis at that point, no?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Wed 21 Dec 2022 13:38:59 No.5504553 Report

Quoted By: >>5504555

>>5504546
The lover has better associations, the most notable thing Alavis accomplish was mass murder and attempted genocide.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:9n9Jjp/N Wed 21 Dec 2022 13:42:09 No.5504555 Report

Quoted By: >>5504562

>>5504553
She was the AI for a pretty long time, and she`s already gold-colored. Vul's lover appeared once.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Wed 21 Dec 2022 13:49:29 No.5504559 Report

Quoted By: >>5504615

>>5503533
Oh, a Question Bananas (if you're still taking them) - is Clok descended from the 'natural' Garastra line, or from Eoba II?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Wed 21 Dec 2022 13:52:37 No.5504562 Report

Quoted By: >>5504565

>>5504555
And produced one of the best Supremes which ushered in a Golden Age. Meanwhile, the AI killed Jaxians enmass while destroying almost all industry, infrastructure, food production, and the environment.

It’s pretty clear who wins bestgirl for Christmas Past lad.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:9n9Jjp/N Wed 21 Dec 2022 13:54:29 No.5504565 Report

Quoted By: >>5504570

>>5504562
She's literally some hussy who appeared once and her claim is being the mother of a popular guy. She's not even yellow.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Wed 21 Dec 2022 14:08:08 No.5504570 Report

Quoted By:

>>5504565
One. Of. The. Best. Supremes. Dude.

Her whole thing was about past romance too, which fits Christmas Past. It’s not even a contest.

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:E5CwLd9H Wed 21 Dec 2022 15:08:01 No.5504615 Report

Quoted By:

>>5504559
I mean theoretically it's the same bloodline just skipped back a few generations. Of course that leads to the general weirdness of being your own grandfather sort of thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Wed 21 Dec 2022 20:22:46 No.5504840 Report

Quoted By: >>5504845 >>5504921

>>5504399
We moved past the pseudo oligarchical gene score system by having our system become more meritocratic, we legalized the Blue Hazaar as citizens and gave them land in the HVS, we allowed a girl to compete for the Supremacy.

We weren't the land of the free but we were becoming more actually utilitarian and not just a big standard dictatorship paying lip service to it while doing basic bitch despot stuff.

Wrix was a huge backslide I want to see reversed.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:9n9Jjp/N Wed 21 Dec 2022 20:26:30 No.5504845 Report

Quoted By: >>5504856 >>5505800

>>5504840
>we legalized the Blue Hazaar as citizens
And how did that turn out?

Oh, that' right, the first hazaar to ever become a philosopher spawned a civil war.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Wed 21 Dec 2022 20:34:24 No.5504856 Report

Quoted By: >>5504866

>>5504845
There were several more of them who were productive philsophers and workers, and Bluey (a Blue Hazaar OVERSEER) is belived by much of the playerbase.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:9n9Jjp/N Wed 21 Dec 2022 20:46:10 No.5504866 Report

Quoted By: >>5504903

>>5504856
Bluey? The guy who hated the hazaar so much that he literally turned into a jaxtian?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:yiEujCq1 Wed 21 Dec 2022 21:20:25 No.5504903 Report

Quoted By: >>5504904

>>5504866
Juat because he hated them, doesn't mean he wasn't one.

Also, the other examples I gave. Most Blue Hazaar were loyal, including (barring BQM clarifying further) most Blazaar State Philosophers.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:9n9Jjp/N Wed 21 Dec 2022 21:22:41 No.5504904 Report

Quoted By: >>5504909

>>5504903
>Just because he hated them, doesn't mean he wasn't one.
No, but it reflects on them
>most Blazaar State Philosophers.
The Hazaar State literally turned into a capitalist hellhole. Why bluey allowed that i won't know, but Kima became a billionaire.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:yiEujCq1 Wed 21 Dec 2022 21:25:44 No.5504909 Report

Quoted By: >>5504915

>>5504904
Supreme Leader Kinja was "the richest man in history" in the Hegemony proper.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:9n9Jjp/N Wed 21 Dec 2022 21:28:35 No.5504915 Report

Quoted By: >>5504918

>>5504909
Yeah, but he became rich because he was an govenrment official working on the entertainment industry, Kima is just a capitalist businesswoman.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:yiEujCq1 Wed 21 Dec 2022 21:32:41 No.5504918 Report

Quoted By: >>5504923

>>5504915
The practical difference eludes me, unless you feel the Hegemony's system of government is superior to the HVS's on some intangible moral grounds. I mean, I know the HEGEMONY views things that way, muxh like they view Bluey as "the only good Blazaar" now that revised history retroactively justifies Wrix's purge, but I'm not sure there's any ACTUAL evidence Blue Hazaar were mostly disloyal or bad, or that the HVS is any more of a hellhole than The Hegemony.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:0JlUkMKc Wed 21 Dec 2022 21:35:15 No.5504921 Report

Quoted By: >>5504926

>>5504840
>We moved past the pseudo oligarchical gene score system by having our system become more meritocratic
Reform made by the same Supreme who created aristocratic families.
>we legalized the Blue Hazaar as citizens
Does the concept of citizens even apply here? All sentient beings under the Hegemony are its subjects.
>gave them land in the HVS
The HVS was formed to be a buffer state between us and the Esaals, the entire population there is more or less a wall of meatshields.
>we allowed a girl to compete for the Supremacy.
She won the right of being the Supreme Ruler the same way Eoba II did, fighting 'til death is tradition.

Anyway, that was all just me being nitpicky, here's my main argument.
>We weren't the land of the free but we were becoming more actually utilitarian and not just a big standard dictatorship paying lip service to it while doing basic bitch despot stuff.
Utilitarian implies we do things to maximize the overall happiness of our population, this has never been one of the core tenents of the Hegemony. We do what we do so we may come out on top of everybody and eventualy defeat entropy. We were never on course of liberalization, we just never had the need to act too overt. Our AI micromanages the the essential parts of our subjects' lives and that was before we upgraded it, does the fact that our population doesn't FEEL oppressed makes it so it isn't?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:9n9Jjp/N Wed 21 Dec 2022 21:39:12 No.5504923 Report

Quoted By: >>5505172

>>5504918
>nless you feel the Hegemony's system of government is superior to the HVS's on some intangible moral grounds
Well, one type of government led to their species almost getting exterminated because of a few rocks, the other led to them beating said rocks.
>that the HVS is any more of a hellhole than The Hegemony.
Bananas literally called it a favela

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:9n9Jjp/N Wed 21 Dec 2022 21:43:44 No.5504926 Report

Quoted By:

>>5504921
>We do what we do so we may come out on top of everybody and eventualy defeat entropy.
That 'goal' hasn't come up since Eoba II

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ZIEHGDtN Thu 22 Dec 2022 01:49:51 No.5505172 Report

Quoted By: >>5505184

>>5504923
It was Akule's understanding that liberalism, capitalism, democracy, nd ethnic plurality were to blame for the old world's problems, but we don't know it is so. The fact that the Swall were apparently doing just fine under that system, never suffering decadence and collapse except as a direct result of bad timing/luck and being hemmed in by the Jaxtian Hegemony, suggests that it may not be the SYSTEM that is flawed... But the Jaxtian nature is just ill-suited to it, or that their form which rose to primacy on Jaxt was flawed.

>if the system relies on Jaxtian perfection, it is an inherently flawed system!
Then so too Jaxtian aithoritarianism, which has so far fallen prey to:
>Gaftar IV's Helper scheme
>Red Hazaar mining plots emabled by a Supreme
>Generational neuroticism resulting in a vengeful nerd destroying half our infrastructure, poisoning our AI, and killing billions
>Yuan'tul's social engineering and the resulting schism
>Wrix's brutal reign of terror and genocide, resulting in a society of traumatized yes-men and the deaths of billions

Neither system is perfect, but we have no indication that capitalism is inherently WORSE for Jaxtians than collectivist authoritarianism with feudal and merchantile elements, as we have now.

The HVS is a favela, but is that because they have capitalism, or because they are a vassal state of an oppressive dictatorship that isolates them, manipulates them, and uses them as a buffer state? And is a favela necessarily WORSE than living in a terror-state ruled by a capricious and genocidal autocrat?

I'm not sure. I think it's an open question at this point. Kima is based, though, and the Blazaar genocide seems like a waste to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:9n9Jjp/N Thu 22 Dec 2022 01:57:54 No.5505184 Report

Quoted By: >>5505191

>>5505172
>The fact that the Swall were apparently doing just fine under that system, never suffering decadence and collapse except as a direct result of bad timing/luck
It is when it leaves them unable to do much in the way of defense. Bananas said of their issues was their natural ability to "play ball" would have kinda damned their chances of faring out on space on their own, since everyone else was an crazy empire.
>Then so too Jaxtian aithoritarianism, which has so far fallen prey to
And yet, in a few centuries, they went from a single planet to an multi-star cluster empire. Not to mention a lot of the problems there were just gm fiat and some of our choices getting straight up blocked.

>The HVS is a favela, but is that because they have capitalism, or because they are a vassal state of an oppressive dictatorship that isolates them, manipulates them, and uses them as a buffer state?
Given that they literally allowed actually traitorous disidents to flee and live peacefully while innocents were getting murdered? Yes, completely their fault.
>Kima is based, though, and the Blazaar genocide seems like a waste to me.
The only good thing kima ever did was fuck bluey and the blazaar genocide won't be over until the vassal state is wiped clean of their filth

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ZIEHGDtN Thu 22 Dec 2022 02:00:04 No.5505191 Report

Quoted By: >>5505192

>>5505184
You're right, the Blazaar aren't completely destroyed.

May they live long and reclaim Xin.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:9n9Jjp/N Thu 22 Dec 2022 02:02:04 No.5505192 Report

Quoted By: >>5505481

>>5505191
Mashallah, they shall all be destroyed. The only good xenos are dead xenos

Quite literally, the vetuckers are dead. I wish some of them survived.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Thu 22 Dec 2022 08:07:01 No.5505481 Report

Quoted By: >>5505561

>>5505192
>I wish some of them survived.
We kept DNA samples, I think we could resurrect their species if we wanted.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bXVV9VhH Thu 22 Dec 2022 11:25:36 No.5505561 Report

Quoted By:

>>5505481
But that wouldn't really be them, so to say, they wouldn't have their culture and stuff. It'd be just creating problems.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bXVV9VhH Thu 22 Dec 2022 16:27:17 No.5505720 Report

Quoted By:

What i really wanna know is what's up with the seekers. We haven't seen them in what....several threads? The only time we ever contacted them they just kinda warned us about the worms, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Thu 22 Dec 2022 18:18:04 No.5505800 Report

Quoted By: >>5505802

>>5504845
9 billion Blue Hazaar Citizens and one was disloyal

How many billions of Jataxians have we had? And how many have caused trouble for the Hegemony?

If you truly only care about loyalty , the Blue Hazaar were far more loyal than the monke

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bXVV9VhH Thu 22 Dec 2022 18:22:42 No.5505802 Report

Quoted By: >>5505818 >>5505833 >>5506115

>>5505800
That 'one' blue hazaar was the first hazaar to get to be a philosopher and be raised in jaxtian society proper, even bluey was basically an science experiment.

>false equivalence
You can't 'equate' the two. Jaxtians ARE the hegemony. You can't have the hegemony without the jaxtians. "Muh hazaar" have, in every single opportunity, in every single civilization, turned out to be trouble. The Aristocrats, the Red Hazaar, the vassal state, aand 'but we didn't specifically know if these menial workers were rebellious, so that means they were totally loyal!!!"

They had no loyalty because they had no interest, they just kept their heads down.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bXVV9VhH Thu 22 Dec 2022 18:41:04 No.5505818 Report

Quoted By: >>5505833

>>5505802
>aand 'but we didn't specifically know if these menial workers were rebellious, so that means they were totally loyal!!!"
*is a bad excuse

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Thu 22 Dec 2022 18:57:09 No.5505833 Report

Quoted By: >>5505836

>>5505818
>>5505802
Assumption of innocence in the absence of proven guilt is usually considered good form in my society, actually, albeit probably not in the Hegemony.

"No interest" seems a bold claim, too. Hazaar have genetic memories and instincts inherited from their host-parent, which is why sunshine was so loyal to Yuan'tul and was also the entire basis for us implanting so many Jaxtians with Hazaar and then trusting them to terraform Xin. It's also why Cijan rewarded them with housing on Xin -- to further maintain their interest in the wellbeing of the planet and the Hegemony.

You just don't like Hazaar, methinks.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bXVV9VhH Thu 22 Dec 2022 19:00:43 No.5505836 Report

Quoted By: >>5505843

>>5505833
>Assumption of innocence in the absence of proven guilt is usually considered good form in my society, actually, albeit probably not in the Hegemony.
No, you said they were loyal. There's a difference between accepting a government because they own the guns and being loyal.
>"No interest" seems a bold claim, too. Hazaar have genetic memories and instincts inherited from their host-parent,
If that mattered, Yuan wouldn't have betrayed the hegemony, since he's the descendant of a literal supreme. Not only that, it's not a 'nurture' thing because, from what we saw, he had perfectly fine adoptive jaxtian parents.
>. It's also why Cijan rewarded them with housing on Xin -- to further maintain their interest in the wellbeing of the planet and the Hegemony.
No, Cijan let them stay because he wanted cheap labour since Xin was basically an empty pink grassland.

>You just don't like Hazaar, methinks.
I do hate hazaar, but i am justified in it

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Thu 22 Dec 2022 19:06:11 No.5505843 Report

Quoted By: >>5505857

>>5505836
I mean, we literally got to occupy Yuan'tul's brain when he came to hate the Jaxtians, and see/guide his rationale, which was indeed largely environmental: a combination of being raised to believe he was an inferior race while being smart enough to see evidence that he and his people actually COULD be doing more. It wasn't some intrinsic, irrational part of his bio-psychology that he was incapable of being a good subject of the Hegemony, but a conclusion he reached through his specific rationalizing and emotion... Just like any Jaxtian dissident. While HE was never going to be loyal, he was clearly an exceptional individual.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Thu 22 Dec 2022 19:36:33 No.5505857 Report

Quoted By: >>5505882

>>5505843
He might have ended up loyal if we'd picked jealousy instead of hatred. Who knows?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:0JlUkMKc Thu 22 Dec 2022 20:11:31 No.5505882 Report

Quoted By: >>5505883

>>5505857
Bananas said that if we picked jealousy he would have given us a lesser improvement in exchange for a Hazaar state.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bXVV9VhH Thu 22 Dec 2022 20:14:24 No.5505883 Report

Quoted By: >>5505910

>>5505882
>lesser improvement
That would imply that hatred was great. We didn't get any improvement at all out of this mess
>but the loyalty
The Mask was a separate choice, and even if you counted it as the 'reward', it was just some slight popularity. Wow, what a great reward, people won't grumble about the taste of food cubes for a generation or two anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Thu 22 Dec 2022 20:46:34 No.5505910 Report

Quoted By: >>5505913

>>5505883
We only got the wear the mask as a result of that whole kerfuffle. It is true that if we'd agreed to the compromise or not worn the mask it seems like we would have got nothing at all... Maybe BQM can clarify.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bXVV9VhH Thu 22 Dec 2022 20:52:25 No.5505913 Report

Quoted By: >>5505915

>>5505910
No, we could have also wore the mask if the swalli ended up nuking us. The Mask was always an plan.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Thu 22 Dec 2022 20:55:03 No.5505915 Report

Quoted By: >>5505917

>>5505913
Would wearing the mask for anti-nuke purposes have gotten us the same reign of terror and resultant absolute loyalty as wearing it to cleanse and subjugate our own subjects? Seems odd.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bXVV9VhH Thu 22 Dec 2022 20:56:53 No.5505917 Report

Quoted By: >>5505919

>>5505915
>resultant absolute loyalty
This thing seems to imply that there was much of a problem with loyalty outside of a very specific group caused by yuan's books

Causing an issue, and then solving such issue, isn't an reward, it's just solving the issue you caused.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Thu 22 Dec 2022 21:00:28 No.5505919 Report

Quoted By: >>5505921 >>5506117

>>5505917
>a very specific group
The impression I got is that most significant figures within the Hegemony were splitting along those lines, becoming Supremacist or Mercantile to the point of it causing the general populace to openly question the government and the Supreme.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bXVV9VhH Thu 22 Dec 2022 21:03:16 No.5505921 Report

Quoted By: >>5505929

>>5505919
Which is why i guess...we never saw anything other than an small, centralized attempt at a coup that was then quickly squashed. The mercantilists got away and wrix took the throne without a single shot being fired

And like i said, that's not a reward. Bananas said that the 'physicist' option would have led to the reward of jumpgates...but there's no reward here, you just solved an issue you created while also erasing a race that pretty much everyone liked as 'punishment'

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Thu 22 Dec 2022 21:09:48 No.5505929 Report

Quoted By: >>5505945 >>5506206

>>5505921
As with the matter of HAzaar loyalty, you seem to be selectively remembering and forgetting events and interactions. While we rarely get a ground-level perspective, we've had MANY acts of individual disgruntled or disobedient Jaxtians, and concern for public morale and the popularity of a decision has been a consideration in many of our choices over the last few Supremes' reign. We were given hints at more widespread issues, from that Supremacist guy's earlier consideration of killing Hwat, to scuffles among philosophers getting so severe that the Mercantilist's original symbol before the flower was make-up to mimic bruises, to Wrix's tailor talking about what he perceived as a rot in the heart of the Hegemony.

I very publicly made clear that I do not enjoy or agree with every decision Bananas makes, but you seem to have a very uncharitable reading of his QMing and the story thus far, to what I'd consider an unreasonable degree.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bXVV9VhH Thu 22 Dec 2022 21:21:17 No.5505945 Report

Quoted By: >>5505980

>>5505929
>we've had MANY acts of individual disgruntled or disobedient Jaxtians
Outside of, again, issues caused by the books, none of them were really significant. Not to the point that having no 'questioning' for a few decades is an real reward. When we had to switch to biocubes, what did it even cause socially, outside of some minor grumbling about the taste and some easily catched, irrelevant and harmless criminals?
>We were given hints at more widespread issues, from [issue caused by the book] to [issue caused by the book] to [issue caused by the book]
Again, you can't cause an issue, fix it, and then call the fix a 'reward'

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Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Thu 22 Dec 2022 21:46:28 No.5505980 Report

Quoted By: >>5506002 >>5506206

>>5505945
>Attempted assassination of Qet
>Race riots under Kinja
>Terrorists under Agori
>Ingar

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Anonymous ID:bXVV9VhH Thu 22 Dec 2022 22:01:53 No.5506002 Report

Quoted By: >>5506004

>>5505980
>Attempted assasination of qet
Happened because of a SUPREME who turned himself into a literal AI.
>Race riots under kinja
Was solved by a fucking porn movie.
>Terrorists under agori
Happened because of Eoba I being a retard (allowed gene splicing tech to escape) and Agori a madman.
>Ingar
Again, one single insane retard. That's not social discontent problems, that's specific people who were insane, and those people aren't going to disappear.

None of those issues were both significant and actually an social unrest problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Thu 22 Dec 2022 22:03:06 No.5506004 Report

Quoted By: >>5506005

>>5506002
>None of those issues were both significant and actually an social unrest problem
If you say so. Seems kind of like you're just being very selective again, but whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bXVV9VhH Thu 22 Dec 2022 22:04:37 No.5506005 Report

Quoted By: >>5506128

>>5506004
You're free to show how they weren't.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:1YPlDud6 Thu 22 Dec 2022 22:57:18 No.5506063 Report

Quoted By: >>5506071

How's the arguing going, fellow anons? Which post was the most retarded?

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Anonymous ID:bXVV9VhH Thu 22 Dec 2022 23:05:39 No.5506071 Report

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>>5506063
Well it's a good way to pass the time, since there haven't been any other 'bonus' posts by bananas to discuss.

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Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Thu 22 Dec 2022 23:43:06 No.5506115 Report

Quoted By: >>5506119

>>5505802
>One politician hated the Hegemony and a few hundred miners exploited the Baalathi
>That means 9 billion innocent people, including children, deserved to die

That doesn't make any sense. Loyalty to a political regime isn't some genetic hard coding. That's like saying we should kill all Jataxians because Ingar and Helper attacked the Hegemony

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Thu 22 Dec 2022 23:45:30 No.5506117 Report

Quoted By:

>>5505919
Which also backs up the idea that the Blue Hazaar weren't inherently disloyal anymore than anyone else in the Hegemony. Tons of Jataxians became dissidents it doesn't mean they're species needs to be cleanesed.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bXVV9VhH Thu 22 Dec 2022 23:47:08 No.5506119 Report

Quoted By: >>5506128 >>5506131

>>5506115
>Loyalty to a political regime isn't some genetic hard coding.
No, but every time the hazaar have the power to do something, they fuck it up. Literally every single time. The only one who didn't fuck it up was bluey, who actively hated the hazaar.

The Hazaar had no actual interest in the hegemony, if the consortium gave them an offer, they would have accepted it all the same. Jaxtians created the regime, it's part of their ideology and psychology.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Thu 22 Dec 2022 23:57:01 No.5506128 Report

Quoted By: >>5506134

>>5506005
Power-struggles between different ideological factions of Supreme are pretty significant.

Race riots that need to be put down with coordinated propaganda campaigns (yes, including a racy film) hint at weakening Supreme authority, since we couldn't just say "you stop that" and be done with it.

Eoba and Agori making mistakes doesn't make the terrorists LESS of an ideological breakaway faction, just as the HVS Mercantiles being allowed to survive by QM fiat doesn't make them actually NOT a problem for the Hegemony somehow.

Ingar was symptomatic of widespread and worsening neuroticism in the upper class.

>>5506119
Blue Hazaar were created and shaped by the Hegemony, are 10% Jaxtian, and inherit genetic memories (including ideology and psychology) from it. Crucially, even Yuan'tul thought the Hegemony itself was good as a system and structure -- he only disliked Jaxtians, and only for the same spinelessly-personal and individual reasons which made Bluey hate all Hazaar (and himself for being one).

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Fri 23 Dec 2022 00:00:29 No.5506131 Report

Quoted By: >>5506135

>>5506119
>Literally every single time
>The only one who didn't
Bluey was the first hazaar ever to attain political power in the Hegemony and he did a great job with it.
>if the consortium gave them an offer, they would have accepted it all the same.
Jaxtians are not always born with loyalty either. There have been more than one disloyal monkeys in the past. Loyalty is a learned, cultural behaviour, not something entirely genetic. We could have made the blue hazaar fully loyal if not for Wrix. But right now, they will absolutely accept any offer they are made and betray us the first chance they get, because "The regime's promise was broken, your people were genocided and you might randomly get genocided again at a future Supreme's whim, even if you personally did nothing wrong." is literally the worst possible way to instill loyalty on a group.

The genocide of the Swall and the Vetuckers also makes it impossible for a hostile power to surrender to us. Wrix has made them all face a choice between "fight to the death" and "Surrender to the monkeys and randomly get genocided a hundred years down the line when they need a scapegoat" and the decision here is really obvious to anyone.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bXVV9VhH Fri 23 Dec 2022 00:03:13 No.5506134 Report

Quoted By: >>5506167

>>5506128
>Power-struggles between different ideological factions of Supreme are pretty significant.
And like i said, they're *book* issues.
>Race riots that need to be put down with coordinated propaganda campaigns (yes, including a racy film) hint at weakening Supreme authority
Wow, how tremendous, they had to put down some grumbling with a film. So hard that not having to do that again..for a few decades...is a reward worth killing billions.
>Eoba and Agori making mistakes doesn't make the terrorists LESS of an ideological breakaway faction
No, it means that it's not an social unrest problem, it's a 'don't fucking let some random-ass losers have access to biowarfare technology'
>Ingar was symptomatic of widespread and worsening neuroticism in the upper class.
Yes, which was dealt with specifically by Eoba II's change of the government structure by waiting until candidates were actually grown a little to assign them power.
>Blue Hazaar were created and shaped by the Hegemony, are 10% Jaxtian, and inherit genetic memories
Again, you keep saying 'genetic memories', but if the genetic memories of a SUPREME didn't stop Yuan from rebelling, what makes you think it would make some complete randoes loyal?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bXVV9VhH Fri 23 Dec 2022 00:06:32 No.5506135 Report

Quoted By: >>5506138 >>5506168 >>5506174

>>5506131
>Bluey was the first hazaar ever to attain political power in the Hegemony and he did a great job with it.
Bluey, yes, the guy who hates the hazaar, everything to do with them, and became a monkey specifically because he didn't want to be a hazaar.

Then came along the guy who was born to a rich family, given the choice to do whatever the fuck he wanted, and he tried to bring everything down. Arguably the smartest hazaar ever outside of possibly bluey (and even then its doubtful) and his ideology was just 'kill da monkeys, i wanna coom forever'

>Jaxtians are not always born with loyalty either.
Jaxtians have an investment in the Hegemony. The Hazaar do not. Giving them more material stuff wouldn't change the fact that it really wouldn't make a difference whether they were working for the consortium or hegemony. The Jaxtians make up the soul of the hegemony, their customs are intertwined with jaxtian psychology.

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Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Fri 23 Dec 2022 00:13:31 No.5506138 Report

Quoted By: >>5506141

>>5506135
>Then came along the guy who was born to a rich family, given the choice to do whatever the fuck he wanted, and he tried to bring everything down. Arguably the smartest hazaar ever outside of possibly bluey (and even then its doubtful) and his ideology was just 'kill da monkeys, i wanna coom forever'
Wait, do you mean Ingar, who was born to a rich family, given the choice to do whatever the fuck he wanted, and he tried to bring everything down? Arguably the smartest Jaxtian ever, bar none, so smart that we had to clone him and lock him up to finish Threemind and his ideology was just "kill da monkeys, i wanna coom (in my waifu) forever"

>Jaxtians have an investment in the Hegemony. The Hazaar do not.
Yes, but the Hazaar could have had an investment in the Hegemony if things had been different. We saved them from genocide by Balaathi improved their race by making them blue. With a decent indoctrination course and a new homeworld to call their own, thanks to us, they'd be as loyal as any random Jaxtian.

Of course, this is all highly hypothetical. You've gotten your wish, the Hazaar are now as disloyal as they could possibly be and we'll inevitably have to kill them all, along with the rest of our neighbours, when they inevitably switch sides.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bXVV9VhH Fri 23 Dec 2022 00:18:02 No.5506141 Report

Quoted By: >>5506162

>>5506138
>Wait, do you mean Ingar, who was born to a rich family, given the choice to do whatever the fuck he wanted, and he tried to bring everything down?
Smartest? He was smart, but he was just kind of an autist savant. He certainly wasn't a philosopher. We can find plenty of examples of jaxtians on his ballpark of intelligence who did much better than him. Hell, one of them almost became Supreme right now

>Yes, but the Hazaar could have had an investment in the Hegemony if things had been different.
No, they would not, because the hegemony, and it's culture, is Jaxtian. What difference would have there been between serving the jaxtians and serving the consortium?

>the Hazaar are now as disloyal as they could possibly be and we'll inevitably have to kill them all, along with the rest of our neighbours, when they inevitably switch sides.
The only good thing to come out of this, i suppose. It's not like there's any other alien race that *isn't* garbage. The vetuckers were the only cool guys around, really.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Fri 23 Dec 2022 00:44:14 No.5506162 Report

Quoted By: >>5506171

>>5506141
>No, they would not, because the hegemony, and it's culture, is Jaxtian.
This is our fundamental disagreement. You think a culture is tied to a species and its genetics and cannot be transferred to another species. The Jaxtian past proves you wrong, since our species did not always live under the Hegemony and we were pretty successful in transferring our culture to both the Vetuckers and the Hazaar, which is all species that came under our power. I'm not even sure how you can square your "kill all aliens" xenophobia with your love for the Vetuckers.

>What difference would have there been between serving the jaxtians and serving the consortium?
As I said before, the Jaxtians saved them from genocide by Balaathi, improved them by turning them blue, would have given them a new homeworld, a measurable improvement in their lives and a country to believe in. I mean, you keep saying that the Vetuckers were the only good aliens, but what's the difference? What difference would it have been to them between serving the Hegemony and serving the consortium? And same for the Jaxtians, there were, and still are, more than a few disloyal ones, who would be happy to serve the consortium. They fled to the vassal state. There are more disloyal Jaxtians than there ever were disloyal Hazaar. Do they prove that Jaxtians are inherently disloyal as well?

Before Wrix, I could see a future where the Hegemony grew to encompass more species, each working in harmony for the good of the Hegemony. Vetucker laborers, Hazaar for the hazardous (kek) jobs, Esaal shock troopers, and so on. It is a future that I would have loved, but sadly will now never come to pass. You have gotten your wish, we now have to genocide every single alien species we met or will meet, with the exception of those who are too different to register as threats, like the Balaathi or the Migrators. You don't really have to keep arguing so vehemently for something you're already getting. The hegemony cannot include more than the Jaxtians now, you're getting your wish and it didn't even need to be voted on.

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Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Fri 23 Dec 2022 00:48:23 No.5506167 Report

Quoted By: >>5506168 >>5506180

>>5506134
>*book* issues
I was referring to the Qet assassination attempt and Helper debacle, friend.

Meanwhile, that was presumably a factor in why most Blue Hazaar did their job and respected government authority in a way Red Hazaar didn't. Remember: the only other species Yuan'tul HATED was the Razaar, as he specifically saw them as individualist sociopaths incompatible with the glorious Hegemonic system.

>not an social unrest problem, it's a 'don't fucking let some random-ass losers have access to biowarfare technology'
If you have a sizeable faction of "losers" who, given the opportunity, will sabotage your entire society into oblivion... Yeah, that's, uh, a bit of unrest in your society.

>which was dealt with specifically by Eoba II's change of the government structure by waiting until candidates were actually grown a little to assign them power
Yeah, but it's a pre-book issue that now decidedly cannot arise under Wrix post-mask.

>the genetic memories of a SUPREME didn't stop Yuan from rebelling
He wasn't directly implanted in a Supreme, but in his lower-ranked grandson. Even if he had been... Why would that make him not rebellious? Supremes often ARE, as well as Supreme candidates, as we've seen time and time again. What those memories and genetic meant was that, even when he HATED Jaxtians, he still liked THE HEGEMONY.

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Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Fri 23 Dec 2022 00:50:08 No.5506168 Report

Quoted By:

>>5506167
>>5506135
>then along came the guy who was born in a rich family
Nope.
>As a Haazar citizen of the Hegemony, you've always been an outsider. You have 10% of their DNA, and are a sort of second class citizen. As a kid, you never really understood your “father's” obsession with your “bloodline”. He was very proud of the fact that one of his ancestors was Qet- a previous Supreme Ruler. It was even more confusing considering every other member of his family, including himself, were low born, patriotic, unremarkable citizens of low standing.
https://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/2022/5120724/

>Jaxtians have an investment in the Hegemony. The Hazaar do not.
Blazaar are literally products of Hegemony eugenics and ideology, as wella s Jaxtian DNA. They are natiev to the Hegemony's territory, and could not have existed or developed as they did except as a product of teh Hegemony. They are OBVIOUSLY invested in it, which is why

Yellow Hazaar had investment in Hegemonic values, also. Sunshine's inenr monologue attested to Blazaar happiness, and his own, when CIjan granted them residence on Xin:
>Listening to the Supreme Ruler speak so highly of the Blue Hazaar makes you feel good though. They are the closest people as to who you can relate; and you've picked up many work shifts just like them- to hear of the changes and rewards for all of your hard work is like a dream come true.
>"We're being allowed to stay, Yaun. We have a home here!"
he even points out why, in a uniquely Hegemony-flavoured rationalization of why it's a good system to live in even though he's a second-class citizen and science experiment:
>But the Hegemony is the only reason you were even born. If someone is the spawn and property of a state, it only makes sense to support that state- because otherwise you would just be the property of a different state, and never having existed at all.
(see https://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/2022/5207039/)

This is why you're frustrating to talk to. You selectively read and remember the plot and character motivations, cherry pick them to fit your assumptions and preferences, and dismiss any evidence to the contrary as irrelevant or a special circumstance that doesn't actually matter.

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Anonymous ID:bXVV9VhH Fri 23 Dec 2022 00:53:45 No.5506171 Report

Quoted By: >>5506179

>>5506162
>The Jaxtian past proves you wrong, since our species did not always live under the Hegemony and we were pretty successful in transferring our culture to both the Vetuckers and the Hazaar, which is all species that came under our power.
Except, Hegemony culture is absolutely descending of previous stuff. Knifes are a Jaxtian weapon because they needed to fight in tight spaces like branches. Their houses are tall because of trees. In fact, the entire hegemonian genetic improvement culture comes from how they maintained their physicality when they evolved out of being animals - literally the first choice in the game.
> I'm not even sure how you can square your "kill all aliens" xenophobia with your love for the Vetuckers.
Hazaar are disgusting knife dicks who have fucked up literally every single society they ran and been nothing but trouble since we had the displeasure of meeting them, Vetuckers were cool cowbros who not once went against us.
>As I said before, the Jaxtians saved them from genocide by Balaathi, improved them by turning them blue, would have given them a new homeworld, a measurable improvement in their lives and a country to believe in.
Saving them from the balaathi is an far off event, not an underlying pillar of hegemonic society that binds them to our civilization.
>I mean, you keep saying that the Vetuckers were the only good aliens, but what's the difference? What difference would it have been to them between serving the Hegemony and serving the consortium?
Vetuckers are basically like ogryns, they're not that bright but they are absolutely loyal. Hell, if not for us uplifiting them, they would have literally started to worship Eoba as 'Star King' in a few generations.
>Do they prove that Jaxtians are inherently disloyal as well?
The difference is that the hegemony is an underlyingly jaxtian civilization. No other civilization is as built for them as the hegemony. The architecture, the culture, hell, even knife fighting.

>You don't really have to keep arguing so vehemently for something you're already getting.
I'm proving that the h*zaar deserved it, and that we need to finish the job

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Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Fri 23 Dec 2022 00:54:41 No.5506174 Report

Quoted By: >>5506184

>>5506135
>then along came the guy who was born in a rich family
Nope.
>As a Haazar citizen of the Hegemony, you've always been an outsider. You have 10% of their DNA, and are a sort of second class citizen. As a kid, you never really understood your “father's” obsession with your “bloodline”. He was very proud of the fact that one of his ancestors was Qet- a previous Supreme Ruler. It was even more confusing considering every other member of his family, including himself, were low born, patriotic, unremarkable citizens of low standing.
https://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/2022/5120724/

>Jaxtians have an investment in the Hegemony. The Hazaar do not.
Blazaar are literally products of Hegemony eugenics and ideology, as well as Jaxtian DNA. They are native to the Hegemony's territory, and could not have existed or developed as they did except as a product of the Hegemony. They are OBVIOUSLY invested in it, which is why they shown in the chapter before CIjan left on the Reconquista to be worthy subjects and relatively loyal and happy, even with their lot.

Yellow Hazaar had investment in Hegemonic values, also. Sunshine's inenr monologue attested to Blazaar happiness, and his own, when CIjan granted them residence on Xin:
>Listening to the Supreme Ruler speak so highly of the Blue Hazaar makes you feel good though. They are the closest people as to who you can relate; and you've picked up many work shifts just like them- to hear of the changes and rewards for all of your hard work is like a dream come true.
>"We're being allowed to stay, Yaun. We have a home here!"
he even points out why, in a uniquely Hegemony-flavoured rationalization of why it's a good system to live in even though he's a second-class citizen and science experiment:
>But the Hegemony is the only reason you were even born. If someone is the spawn and property of a state, it only makes sense to support that state- because otherwise you would just be the property of a different state, and never having existed at all.
(see https://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/2022/5207039/)

This is why you're frustrating to talk to. You selectively read and remember the plot and character motivations, cherry pick them to fit your assumptions and preferences, and dismiss any evidence to the contrary as irrelevant or a special circumstance that doesn't actually matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Fri 23 Dec 2022 00:59:57 No.5506179 Report

Quoted By: >>5506190

>>5506171
>Hazaar are disgusting
>Vetuckers were cool
This is the actual substance of your argument, and all the rest is mere appendix.
You like Vetuckers, so it doesn't matter if they prefer axes to knives or plains to forests, if they're inherently less-intelligent or more spiritual and idealistic. Sure, several of those are incompatible with traditional Hegemonic culture, and led the last one whose perspective we got to explore to NOT be absolutely loyal and to actually disobey direct orders. But it's fine, they're cool. :)

Blazaar, who are literally born from Jaxtians and have Jaxtian instincts, who were purpose-made for the Hegemony and served them loyally and in great numbers, even becoming a cornerstone of major projects? They're gross, therefore bad. >:(

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Anonymous ID:bXVV9VhH Fri 23 Dec 2022 01:00:51 No.5506180 Report

Quoted By: >>5506198 >>5506209 >>5506211

>>5506167
>I was referring to the Qet assassination attempt and Helper debacle, friend.
That one wasn't ideological, it was literally an supreme who turned himself into an AI. The assassination attempt was orchestrated by Helper.

>Meanwhile, that was presumably a factor in why most Blue Hazaar did their job and respected government authority in a way Red Hazaar didn't.
The Blazaar kept their head down because we controlled them, not because they had any shred of loyalty to us.

>If you have a sizeable faction of "losers" who, given the opportunity, will sabotage your entire society into oblivion
That's not unrest, that's 'society with people', no shit that a bunch of randos would do something bad if given access to dangerous technology. A bunch of workers deciding they wont grumble if their food tastes like crap anymore is not a reward.

>Yeah, but it's a pre-book issue that now decidedly cannot arise under Wrix post-mask.
That's retarded and just straight up untrue. Wrix's mask didn't suddenly resolve all societal issues, it just made it so nobody complained about the supreme's decisions.

>Why would that make him not rebellious?
Because it shows that hazaar are always a problem. If they're treated badly, they're unloyal, if they're treated well, they're unloyal, every single hazaar society has been fucked.

>He wasn't directly implanted in a Supreme, but in his lower-ranked grandson.
If the genetic memories only go back a generation, then the majority of blazaar don't have any, since the majority of blazaar after the first generation were produced by other hazaar.

>What those memories and genetic meant was that, even when he HATED Jaxtians, he still liked THE HEGEMONY
No he fucking didn't, you can't "hate jaxtians but like the hegemony", Jaxtians ARE the hegemony. His retarded coomeristic vision is about the furthest thing you could ever have from the hegemony.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bXVV9VhH Fri 23 Dec 2022 01:07:47 No.5506184 Report

Quoted By: >>5506198

>>5506174
>Nope.
He was literally given the option to have some of the most important jobs in the hegemony.
>woe is me, i have to choose between being an important physicist, biologist or philosopher! how unfair!

>Blazaar are literally products of Hegemony eugenics and ideology, as well as Jaxtian DNA. They are native to the Hegemony's territory, and could not have existed or developed as they did except as a product of the Hegemony.
Maybe they were originally created, but they do not require the hegemony to keep going on.

>chapter before CIjan left on the Reconquista to be worthy subjects and relatively loyal and happy, even with their lot.
'worthy subjects' meaning 'cheap labour that obeys orders when there's a gun pointed at their head'

>Yellow Hazaar had investment in Hegemonic values, also
The proof, i suppose, being sunshine, the easily manipulated idiot who hid the hegemony's greatest enemy because of emotions and then decided to flee to the hazaar vassal state, only abandoning yuan when it turned out he was using him.

>You selectively read and remember the plot and character motivations, cherry pick them to fit your assumptions and preferences, and dismiss any evidence to the contrary as irrelevant or a special circumstance that doesn't actually matter.
The issue here is that you seem to be acting like blue hazaar are somehow loyal because they accepted orders while they were under the hegemony's boot. Accepting orders from the government that oppresses you is easy. That does not make them suddenly 'loyal subjects who actually believed in the hegemony'

They do not hold an ounce, an single ounce of stake in hegemonian culture. They do not knife fight, they don't give a fuck about staying /fit/, they don't care about hegemonian ideals, and on and on. They're just subjects.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bXVV9VhH Fri 23 Dec 2022 01:11:14 No.5506190 Report

Quoted By: >>5506198

>>5506179
> Sure, several of those are incompatible with traditional Hegemonic culture,
Ah yes, how imcompatible, the big guys like axes. And the fact that they basically immediatelly accepted hegemony culture and ideals, not because they were forced, but because Eoba came down and preached them about it, is ignored.

> and led the last one whose perspective we got to explore to NOT be absolutely loyal and to actually disobey direct orders.
Wow, he decided to do an medical procedure. That is totally the same stuff as everything else the hazaar have done.

>have Jaxtian instincts
lmao no, they have blue skin, don't try to equal that to them being actual monkes. even bluey was very different in his instincts, it was literally a problem for him that even after he was turned into a jaxtian he had some hazaar instincts.

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Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 23 Dec 2022 01:13:39 No.5506193 Report

Quoted By: >>5506422 >>5506493

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>the Larpers and Moralfags are still fighting

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Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Fri 23 Dec 2022 01:17:11 No.5506198 Report

Quoted By: >>5506212 >>5506214

>>5506180
>insurrection by the concerted effort of an organized group of rebels doesn't count if they're 'randos' and 'losers'
>"one guy in a tube should be the shadow government forever" isn't an ideological split from naturalistic Hegemonic tradition and succession

>All Hazaar societies suck and are failures! Except the Blue Hazaar who numbered 9 billion and were doing quite well in the hegemony for the most part... Or the Aristocrats, who are pretty much magic by the standards of our current technology and also have a mightier empire than us... And the Reds, when we met them, who even as a lobotomized ancap society were actually doing pretty well until they fucked with the Balaathi and found out

>Jaxtians ARE the Hegemony, and other species aren't compatible, unless they're slow arctic fishbois or based cow-ogryns, who are fine I guess

>>5506184
>I know I said Yuan'tul was rich but now I mean that he was actually not rich, but very smart and so was given opportunities above most people but slightly lower than a Jaxtian of equal intellect

>I know the Blue Hazaar weren't constantly under armed guard or threat of death to ensure loyalty, because you literally linked me the threads and figuratively spoonfed me, but it's easier for my argument if I pretend they were

>I know I have no evidence that the Blue Hazaar were disloyal, and even the guy who genocided them says that most of the people he killed were innocent of any wrongdoing or disloyalty, but I've decided burden of proof is on you and the bar is wherever I say it is

>>5506190
>I repeatedly brought up knife-fighting and the athletic tradition as evidence that Blazaar didn't belong, but actually axes and big cow bods are fine now

>Also, the appointed Vetuck reps of the Star King conquering the planet doesn't count as force, but preaching; school indoctrination and employment edicts being issued to the Blazaar proves they only serve under threat of force, though, that's force

>Even loyal Vetuckers disobey direct orders from overseers for moral reasons incompatible with Hegemonic beliefs, which is fine
>A small smattering of Blazaar were dissidents, so their species is irredeemable

>Blue skin isn't the same as a monke genetics! Even though they ahd monke genetics! I mean, look at Bluey's bisexuality... A think Bluey himself said was actually present in native Jaxtian populations, too, and which we have evidence from in the Unspeakable thread

I think we're done here.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Fri 23 Dec 2022 01:22:56 No.5506206 Report

Quoted By:

>>5505929
>>5505980
I would also like to point out all these are examples of Jataxians not being statistically more loyal/less disruptive than Blue Hazaar.

If anything the Blue Hazaar have a HIGHER non-dissident to dissident ratio.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Fri 23 Dec 2022 01:26:04 No.5506209 Report

Quoted By: >>5506216

>>5506180
>Because it shows that hazaar are always a problem. If they're treated badly, they're unloyal, if they're treated well, they're unloyal, every single hazaar society has been fucked.

ONE Blue Hazaar rebelled specifically because he WASN'T treated well. If the Hegemony hadn't gone full Birmingham on Xin he wouldn't have been angry/jealous in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Fri 23 Dec 2022 01:28:46 No.5506211 Report

Quoted By: >>5506216

>>5506180
>No he fucking didn't, you can't "hate jaxtians but like the hegemony", Jaxtians ARE the hegemony
That's your personal viewpoint. The Hegemony government system doesn't require Jataxians to operate. Yuan 's point of view was that they were actively undermining the system with their Ingar/Eoba style violence and sexual hang ups.

The fact that the Hegemony political system works for non Jataxians shows that Hegemony=Jataxian is an in-universe political belief. Not a hard fact .

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:bXVV9VhH Fri 23 Dec 2022 01:30:29 No.5506212 Report

Quoted By: >>5506223

>>5506198
>>insurrection by the concerted effort of an organized group of rebels doesn't count if they're 'randos' and 'losers'
A small group of retards getting access to bioweapons that were just left free to get and chimping out is not, in fact, significant of an large scale social unrest.

>"one guy in a tube should be the shadow government forever" isn't an ideological split from naturalistic Hegemonic tradition and succession
Literally a single guy deciding to be skynet is not an ideology. Nobody else even knew he was alive, not even Vantix.

>Except the Blue Hazaar who numbered 9 billion and were doing quite well in the hegemony for the most part
Yeah, that's totally their society bro, the hegemony is built out of pink dirt and xin grass.

>Or the Aristocrats, who are pretty much magic by the standards of our current technology and also have a mightier empire than us
Oh, you mean the guys who turn people into fucking instruments for their fun? Yeah, totally a normal, good society there.

>And the Reds, when we met them, who even as a lobotomized ancap society were actually doing pretty well until they fucked with the Balaathi and found out
Yeah, the guys who were literally whittled down to a few survivors on the verge of extinction were totally fine!

>I know I said Yuan'tul was rich but now I mean that he was actually not rich
The Hegemony is a fucking command economy, Yuan was basically given the high-class treatment.

>I know the Blue Hazaar weren't constantly under armed guard or threat of death to ensure loyalty,
>hurr durr but we didn't literally have a guard following every single singular hazaar at all times!!! thats what following a government's orders means!!!!

>I know I have no evidence that the Blue Hazaar were disloyal
You said they were loyal. I said that there is a difference between loyalty and acceptance. The Blue Hazaar didn't do shit because they didnt get the chance - and the ones who did get the chance, DID do shit.

> axes and big cow bods are fine now
And strong cows are not athletic because...?

>Also, the appointed Vetuck reps of the Star King conquering the planet doesn't count as forc
Yes, the Vetucker deciding, of their own free will, to enforce Jaxtian culture, not because we came down and forced them, but because Eoba told one of their kings about their ideology is very different.

>Even loyal Vetuckers disobey direct orders from overseers for moral reasons incompatible with Hegemonic beliefs, which is fine
'Incompatible' my ass, they were *trying* to grow the vetucker population. What he did actively furthered jaxtian interests

>Blue skin isn't the same as a monke genetics!
'Monke genetics' that just never really come up, how convenient.
>o, and which we have evidence from in the Unspeakable thread
The evidence being that akule called him a faggot? That's not even what i'm talking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Fri 23 Dec 2022 01:30:41 No.5506214 Report

Quoted By: >>5506219

>>5506198
Sorry just caught up. Holy shit you DESTROYED that anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bXVV9VhH Fri 23 Dec 2022 01:34:42 No.5506216 Report

Quoted By: >>5506223 >>5506224

>>5506209
>ONE Blue Hazaar rebelled specifically because he WASN'T treated well.
Did you actually read the thread? Yuan was given one of the most important jobs in the hegemony. This 'xin' thing you're talking happened a fuck ton of time after yuan decided to hate the hegemony.

>>5506211
>That's your personal viewpoint. The Hegemony government system doesn't require Jataxians to operate.
The Hegemony *literally* runs on Jaxtian culture, you buffoon. It is literal a legal method of succession to kill the supreme, if you're an actual candidate.

>Yuan 's point of view was that they were actively undermining the system with their Ingar/Eoba style violence and sexual hang ups.
Yuan's 'point of view' was that everyone should be constantly cooming, eternally.

>The fact that the Hegemony political system works for non Jataxians
It doesn't 'work for non jaxtians', it works for 'non jaxtians that are being ruled by jaxtians'

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bXVV9VhH Fri 23 Dec 2022 01:36:00 No.5506219 Report

Quoted By: >>5506226

>>5506214
If you have to say you destroyed someone, you haven't actually destroyed someone.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Fri 23 Dec 2022 01:39:16 No.5506223 Report

Quoted By: >>5506229

>>5506216
>>5506212
>makes fun of other anons for "not reading the thread"
>still spouting incorrect stuff that the threads I linked actively undermine in QM's own words
>undermines his own arguments when they contradict each other, pivoting from "non-Jaxtians can fit in if Jaxtians rule" to "Blazaar can never fit in" and back as needed.
You're right, we're super duper retarded. I cede to your, um, wisdom.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Fri 23 Dec 2022 01:39:21 No.5506224 Report

Quoted By: >>5506233

>>5506216
>Did you actually read the thread? Yuan was given one of the most important jobs in the hegemony.
BQM literally described the Blue Hazaar as second class citizens fed innacurate propaganda about how they are inherently inferior. How is that not being mistreated. That's like saying someone telling MLK that Black people aren't mistreated because Sidney Poitier is a wealthy actor.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Fri 23 Dec 2022 01:39:54 No.5506226 Report

Quoted By: >>5506316

>>5506219
They didn't say that. I did.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bXVV9VhH Fri 23 Dec 2022 01:42:43 No.5506229 Report

Quoted By: >>5506234

>>5506223
>still spouting incorrect stuff that the threads I linked actively undermine in QM's own words
Just because you quote the quest, does not make your retarded interpretation of said quote any less stupid.

>undermines his own arguments when they contradict each other, pivoting from "non-Jaxtians can fit in if Jaxtians rule" to "Blazaar can never fit in" and back as needed.
I'm pretty sure i've always stated that the hazaar suck. But go on, tell me about how Yuan is totally right because he was so oppressed being an influential philosopher that tutored emperors.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bXVV9VhH Fri 23 Dec 2022 01:44:11 No.5506233 Report

Quoted By:

>>5506224
>That's like saying someone telling MLK that Black people aren't mistreated because Sidney Poitier is a wealthy actor.
No, this is like if a guy who wrote an integral part of american policy and personally tutored the president said that he was oppressed. Yuan was given an retardedly high position in the hegemony, he was not being mistreated in the fucking slightest.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Fri 23 Dec 2022 01:44:20 No.5506234 Report

Quoted By: >>5506241

>>5506229
Your reading comprehension is great and I've just realized I was wrong all along and you are actually right about everything.

:)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bXVV9VhH Fri 23 Dec 2022 01:49:20 No.5506241 Report

Quoted By:

>>5506234
Yes, yes, cope, yuan is dead and the hazaar vassal state is next.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Fri 23 Dec 2022 03:21:18 No.5506316 Report

Quoted By:

>>5506226
It's not worth it. Anon is just too smart for us.

Why write things he win't or can't read properly?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Fri 23 Dec 2022 05:11:45 No.5506422 Report

Quoted By: >>5506426 >>5506493

>>5506193
Merry Christmas, anon, and a happy new year.

How long will they keep going, you think?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Fri 23 Dec 2022 05:19:27 No.5506426 Report

Quoted By: >>5506493

>>5506422
While I personally realize arguing with this anon is pointless I think it's time to accept endless political arguments is just part of monkequest at this point.

Unless BQM does something extreme like refusing to count peoples votes or something I think it's best to just accept it. Forget it it's Chinatown and all that

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oFHBi1l+ Fri 23 Dec 2022 06:44:11 No.5506493 Report

Quoted By:

>>5506422
>>5506426
In all fairness, it wasn't off-topic, or even a moral argument as far as I'm concerned. It's just a series of objective statements made about events and inner monologues we've been privy to.

>>5506193
But Merry Christmas, anon, all the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Fri 23 Dec 2022 08:27:49 No.5506557 Report

Quoted By: >>5506628 >>5506722 >>5506787

Would you guys snuggle an Agori plushie?

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:6Qgfg3ZF Fri 23 Dec 2022 11:01:48 No.5506628 Report

Quoted By: >>5506638

>>5506557
I'd snuggle an Agori for sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:unfsj1FI Fri 23 Dec 2022 11:29:42 No.5506638 Report

Quoted By: >>5506646

>>5506628
nigga u gay

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WEH6mrJN Fri 23 Dec 2022 11:39:18 No.5506646 Report

Quoted By: >>5506649

>>5506638
Who could resist jigglin those jowls?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:unfsj1FI Fri 23 Dec 2022 11:41:34 No.5506649 Report

Quoted By:

>>5506646
Someone with a sense of self preservation

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Fri 23 Dec 2022 15:00:09 No.5506722 Report

Quoted By: >>5506724

>>5506557
We really should have done mandated supreme and supreme candidate therapy ages ago

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:unfsj1FI Fri 23 Dec 2022 15:02:57 No.5506724 Report

Quoted By: >>5506751 >>5506766

>>5506722
Supreme therapy would require a therapist in the first place. Does the hegemony even have those?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:6dgVrXja Fri 23 Dec 2022 16:00:16 No.5506751 Report

Quoted By: >>5506754

>>5506724
Almost certainly. To be able to psychologically manipulate their citizens so effectively, they must have psyhcologists and psychiatrists. Now what form that therapy takes, its objectives, nd the threshold for when they decide it's easier just to terminate a patient... That may vary.

Seems like the Supremes in particular get very little mental health assistance, though. I guess they're already deemed psychologically, physically, and tempermentally superior to the rest of society when they're shortlisted, and to suggest they have broken psyches would undermine the nigh-infallibility of the process. Once a candidate is chosen to be Supreme and ascends to the office, that pressure to treat them as above reproach or questioning must be especially discouraging. Nobody would dare to suggest the Supreme is behaving irrationally or in a self-defeating manner, because that's tantamount to questioning policy.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:unfsj1FI Fri 23 Dec 2022 16:05:05 No.5506754 Report

Quoted By: >>5506758

>>5506751
There's a difference, i'd say, on someone whose job is to manipulate people, and a therapist who can actually help the likes of a supreme into being less unstable

There's also the issue that an 'therapist' could extremely easily manipulate the supreme in such a scenario, so...

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Y1UTsiJY Fri 23 Dec 2022 16:09:01 No.5506758 Report

Quoted By: >>5506762

>>5506754
>Mandatory Three-partite randomly selected among all psychologists and psychiatrists for all randomly selected among all psychologists and psychiatrists Supreme health care

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:unfsj1FI Fri 23 Dec 2022 16:17:27 No.5506762 Report

Quoted By: >>5506789

>>5506758
What does that even mean?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Fri 23 Dec 2022 16:27:04 No.5506766 Report

Quoted By:

>>5506724
Yes. It has been referenced a few times

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 23 Dec 2022 17:01:22 No.5506787 Report

Quoted By:

>>5506557
Ye. Agori gets a bad rep, but he was a good Supreme and interesting character.

Indonesian Gentleman

Indonesian Gentleman ID:r9WIfQgb Fri 23 Dec 2022 17:02:42 No.5506789 Report

Quoted By:

>>5506762
Threemind Psychiatry Help, most likely.
Now I'm picturing an Alavislike hologram behind a Peanutsesque Psychiatry Booth, and Wrix/whoever the next supreme is sitting on the other side.

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:6Qgfg3ZF Fri 23 Dec 2022 17:10:57 No.5506796 Report

Quoted By: >>5506811 >>5507201

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:unfsj1FI Fri 23 Dec 2022 17:18:56 No.5506811 Report

Quoted By: >>5507033 >>5507047

>>5506796
The biggest shame of all was not keeping more pre-hegemony cultural stuff. Day of Obedience sounds totally soulless.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Fri 23 Dec 2022 22:13:51 No.5507033 Report

Quoted By: >>5507096

>>5506811
The Hegemony is basically the opposite of SOVL.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Fri 23 Dec 2022 22:41:53 No.5507047 Report

Quoted By: >>5507068 >>5507096 >>5507181

>>5506811
Old traditions came from either traditional (ethnic or religious) ceremonies, or were created for purposes of capitalism. The Hegemony demands uniformuty and a new history, abolishing the old. There coukd be no room for anything but the most bland and sanitized forms of celebration, all for the purposes of the state.

Alas. I'm beginning to hope for the HVS to surpass it, or at least influence it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:35Bgv5oA Fri 23 Dec 2022 23:29:37 No.5507068 Report

Quoted By: >>5507141

>>5507047
X*no hands typed this.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:skgNK4fI Sat 24 Dec 2022 00:20:31 No.5507096 Report

Quoted By: >>5507102 >>5507457

>>5507033
The Hegemony has soul when it wants to
>>5507047
No, see, that's the nu-hegemony, where everyone who isnt a supreme is a dumb weak retard who lives in a pod and the only thing that matters is muh efficiency

This is opposed to the early qvest hegemony, that promoted health, strength, and specifically took moved such as transporting our industry offplanet so people jaxt could be a nice planet with good homes and nature reserves.

Basically, the hegemony used to be sovlful and cultured, now they're a cringe state that keeps people retarded and frail on purpose.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Sat 24 Dec 2022 00:31:00 No.5507102 Report

Quoted By: >>5507108

>>5507096
Some of the early-quest Hegemony's spirit seems to be alive in the HVS, at least. The Dulioans went there. The people who were less obsessed with obedience and comformity at any cost went there. And Bluey is there. I hope they can bring it back with them, one way or another.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:skgNK4fI Sat 24 Dec 2022 00:37:11 No.5507108 Report

Quoted By: >>5507110

>>5507102
Lmao, no

From what little we know of the HVS, it's an capitalist periphery state with billionaires and scum.

Maybe Banram, with his Traditionalist Falathane heritage, can take us back to the days of the Olympiam Hegemony, when monkes trained to be stronger and appreciated nature.

We can put Wrix's son on the task.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Sat 24 Dec 2022 00:41:11 No.5507110 Report

Quoted By: >>5507112

>>5507108
>Best Boy and Best Girl set up shop in HVS, essentially run the show
>Their heir is an Eoba
I'm here for it, capitalist influences be damned.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:skgNK4fI Sat 24 Dec 2022 00:43:37 No.5507112 Report

Quoted By: >>5507124

>>5507110
"Best girl" my ass

She's not even the best monke tomboy. And that Eoba is not an garastra, so who can tell how he'll be.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Sat 24 Dec 2022 01:03:21 No.5507124 Report

Quoted By: >>5507129

>>5507112
Dulioans are consistently cool, pleasant, and level-headed.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XqupDcN/ Sat 24 Dec 2022 01:14:41 No.5507129 Report

Quoted By: >>5507131

>>5507124
How did that turn out for Hwat?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Sat 24 Dec 2022 01:16:53 No.5507131 Report

Quoted By:

>>5507129
He was pretty alright until he was sabotaged and fell into partisanism. I would have been fine with him being Supreme outright.

Indonesian Gentleman

Indonesian Gentleman ID:r9WIfQgb Sat 24 Dec 2022 01:50:52 No.5507141 Report

Quoted By: >>5507150

>>5507068
>no hands
Are you insinuating we do another Belgian Congo in space?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RN8dMEHp Sat 24 Dec 2022 02:06:16 No.5507150 Report

Quoted By:

>>5507141
Considerably less brutal than what some anons would have us do.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:XqupDcN/ Sat 24 Dec 2022 02:51:36 No.5507166 Report

Quoted By: >>5507169 >>5507183

I spent like two fucking hours trying to find a way to add music...just play it in the background.

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:6Qgfg3ZF Sat 24 Dec 2022 02:52:45 No.5507169 Report

Quoted By:

>>5507166
Based lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:r+Kl0vZx Sat 24 Dec 2022 03:18:15 No.5507181 Report

Quoted By:

>>5507047
>The Kimapilling continues.
One of us. One of us.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:r+Kl0vZx Sat 24 Dec 2022 03:20:48 No.5507183 Report

Quoted By:

>>5507166
Oh God I just realized Wrix desecrated Eoba II's grave.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:q4DZ3NYd Sat 24 Dec 2022 03:47:20 No.5507201 Report

Quoted By:

>>5506796
Only thing kinda 'missing' is a memorial day or some sort of honoring the ancestors stuff like Day of the Dead

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:BPvs0+O2 Sat 24 Dec 2022 11:27:08 No.5507457 Report

Quoted By: >>5507477 >>5507595

>>5507096
>opposed to the early qvest hegemony

This quest not only has factions based on current / recent decisions - it has reactionary conservative elements who clamour for the ‘better days of old’ with rise-tinted glasses

So interesting

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:MMmrOiVy Sat 24 Dec 2022 12:25:25 No.5507477 Report

Quoted By:

>>5507457
"Rose-tinted"

It's there for you to read buddy.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:6NgYOuqF Sat 24 Dec 2022 17:43:26 No.5507595 Report

Quoted By: >>5507618

>>5507457
The art and fine narrative detail have imprived over time, amd ambiguous bits of lore have been solidified and expanded upon, and all that is good... But there was less player animosity before Boys & Girls, and until the Unspeakable Prequel and subsequent thread, people seemed to be generally having more fun. I look forward to a future in which we marry the improving technical quality of updates to the spirit of exploration, excitement, and equanimitous enjoymemt present in earlier updates.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Sat 24 Dec 2022 18:10:53 No.5507618 Report

Quoted By: >>5507621

>>5507595
I mean, there's that, but i was talking about the hegemony itself

Nowadays, the hegemony is way more 'soulless', so to say. They went from being pragmatical and striving, to a way more pessimistic nation. When our planet was struck with overheating, we used actual fucking asteroids to protect jaxt and moved the industry offworld so its nature wouldn't be fucked.

Nowadays, they'd probably tell everyone to get bent and bulldoze every last tree on jaxt because 'muh nature is distracting people from obeying!'

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Sat 24 Dec 2022 18:18:25 No.5507621 Report

Quoted By: >>5507622

>>5507618
It really went to shit in Thread 7

Part of me regrets coming up with the Reconquista because of the atrocities Bluey did there and the dorr it left open for the genocide but it's also now the closest refuge from the Post-Wrix Hegemony bullshit we have .

I really hope Thread 9 makes use of it more.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Sat 24 Dec 2022 18:20:01 No.5507622 Report

Quoted By: >>5507672 >>5507848

>>5507621
No, it went to BS at around boys and girls

For example, the guy who lived in a pod and spent all his time on retard puzzles and porn...that doesn't seem like something an athletic society originated by those who retained their physicality from their animal days would encourage, which the post implies it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:6NgYOuqF Sat 24 Dec 2022 19:17:20 No.5507672 Report

Quoted By: >>5507675 >>5507905

>>5507622
I don't think the Hegemony ENCOURAGES that behaviour or lifestyle, rather incentivizing and rewarding people like his hardworking friend. Instead, it's an example of the Hegemony tolerating a few ambitionless people like that, provided they can make use of them for the betterment of the state in some way (product testing, experimentation, etcetera). It may have also been a result of us repeatedly voting against options to cull the population... You know, prior to The Mask Incident.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Sat 24 Dec 2022 19:27:53 No.5507675 Report

Quoted By: >>5507743

>>5507672
>I don't think the Hegemony ENCOURAGES that behaviour or lifestyle
No, it's pretty much shown that the hegemony keeps a significant number of people stuck on doing retarded pointless testing jobs and hooked on VR porn and only really incentivizes them to do some additional minor tasks.

And it's not an 'gene pool' thing because the guy in question even had a breeding license. And that's just one example. The Hegemony as a whole, from what we've seen, seems to care way less about actually making jaxtians improve.

I mean, we're literally going to build an gigantic ecumenopolis. Imagine how horrible the quality of life will be in that, when compared to early quest jaxtians who could live in an planet with nature instead of some miserable tiny pod in a concrete ocean.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:6NgYOuqF Sat 24 Dec 2022 21:04:18 No.5507743 Report

Quoted By: >>5507747

>>5507675
If we task Wrix Junior with beautifying and greening up the place, maybe it will be pleasant to live there? My hope is BQM will give us a chance to use this whole unquestioning loyalty thing for another Supreme, and give us some more open-ended vites to decide our priorities and to set things on a better path than grimdark total war and stripmining. I mean, we made a nice bio-planet of Xin!

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Sat 24 Dec 2022 21:08:13 No.5507747 Report

Quoted By: >>5507755

>>5507743
I don't really see how you can beautify an giant ecumenopolis, especially when monkes specifically have problems with large, flat buildings. I mean what, is it just going to be a bunch of towers going into the depths of the ocean?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:6NgYOuqF Sat 24 Dec 2022 21:22:42 No.5507755 Report

Quoted By: >>5507761

>>5507747
Sure, why not? It's purpose-built! Each bloc can be alid out vertically, with lots of UV mood lamps and hydroponic gardens.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Sat 24 Dec 2022 21:26:55 No.5507761 Report

Quoted By: >>5507853

>>5507755
That doesn't really sound like an ecumenopolis

Ecumenopolis means 'the whole fucking planet is covered in a city'

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Sat 24 Dec 2022 23:10:13 No.5507848 Report

Quoted By: >>5507941

>>5507622
From a narrative point of view I LIKED the perspective shift of Boys and Girls. It reminded me of the LBJ play where in the first half you cheer on his political chicanery to get the Votings Rights Act pass but then in the second you he see him use those same "tricks" to get reelected.

It showed the Hegemony as fucked up, but it was well written and it presented the players with the chance to vote to change it's direction.

The problem was that when we were presented with the Hegemony's issues in Boys and Girls later voters doubled and trippled down in them.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:6NgYOuqF Sat 24 Dec 2022 23:14:09 No.5507853 Report

Quoted By:

>>5507761
Cities can have parks and gardens, especially in a post-fusion spacefaring society where most manufacturing is done on specific factory-planets.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Sun 25 Dec 2022 00:02:20 No.5507905 Report

Quoted By:

>>5507672
I don't even see why we'd really ever need to cull the population. If we're starting to get toward having too many people we just tighten down on issuing reproductive permission for a while.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Sun 25 Dec 2022 00:47:08 No.5507941 Report

Quoted By: >>5507984 >>5508032

>>5507848
You people keep acting like it was some "deep" reveal that "exposed the problems of the hegemony"

It didn't. It just created a bunch of new issues that completely reconned the hegemony and then acted like they were always there. And the rest was just cheap ntr bait drama railroad.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4LCj/hcO Sun 25 Dec 2022 01:53:04 No.5507984 Report

Quoted By:

>>5507941
K.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Sun 25 Dec 2022 03:11:11 No.5508032 Report

Quoted By: >>5508176

>>5507941
Nothing in B&G retconned anything in the previous four threads.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Sun 25 Dec 2022 11:18:38 No.5508176 Report

Quoted By: >>5508570

>>5508032
It did

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Yf95qwpO Mon 26 Dec 2022 00:59:47 No.5508570 Report

Quoted By: >>5508574

>>5508176
What previously established information did it contraindict?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Mon 26 Dec 2022 01:02:45 No.5508574 Report

Quoted By: >>5508610 >>5508773

>>5508570
Some stuff, I'll get around to posting exactly what they are whenever i have the time

If the thread dies, i'll post it in the last one.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:O3cPuOOv Mon 26 Dec 2022 02:26:39 No.5508610 Report

Quoted By:

>>5508574
Riveting.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+jaME+SB Mon 26 Dec 2022 08:43:57 No.5508773 Report

Quoted By:

>>5508574
Retconanon and Essayanon double feature when?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Mon 26 Dec 2022 09:52:07 No.5508813 Report

Quoted By: >>5508814 >>5508920 >>5510412

Okay, i had *another* dream about this quest.

You see, in this one, bananas was making a new thread, and this one was a sidequest.

Except, this sidequest was set in some weird alternate universe where the hegemony never existed, and jaxtians were instead subjugated by some other galactic power, though it wasn't the esaal or anyone else we know.

Wrix was there, and despite never wearing the mask he was still a grumpy, eye-bagged retard. And Cijan was also there, except he was blonde, and he was also a mechanic. And for whatever reason he was...i don't know the term, rooomate? with some weird alien that looked like a fusion between an skaven rat ogre and a star nosed mole because said state decided to just kinda stick'em together with jaxtians, for whatever reason.

There wasn't even any actual content, just an explanation of the idea of the thread. It felt like reading an sitcom proposal.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Mon 26 Dec 2022 09:53:08 No.5508814 Report

Quoted By:

>>5508813
proposal as in, idea of concept*

Indonesian Gentleman

Indonesian Gentleman ID:r9WIfQgb Mon 26 Dec 2022 15:25:16 No.5508920 Report

Quoted By:

>>5508813
Probably a good 'A Mirror Darkly' type of universe for when we discover interdimensional tech.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:4g9yKXeh Wed 28 Dec 2022 03:56:03 No.5510412 Report

Quoted By: >>5510487 >>5510640

>>5508813
I'm going to call that show Two and Two-Halves Men.

Also, Yuan'tul is singing a little song, can you guess what the song's name is?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4LCj/hcO Wed 28 Dec 2022 05:14:16 No.5510487 Report

Quoted By: >>5510898

>>5510412
Dick in a Box. Because that's all he is now.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:NFvPwM8V Wed 28 Dec 2022 10:35:14 No.5510640 Report

Quoted By:

>>5510412
Boxin Dick. It's about the ancient art of ballbusting.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4g9yKXeh Wed 28 Dec 2022 18:35:16 No.5510898 Report

Quoted By:

>>5510487
It was Walking on Sunshine, but dammit if yours wasn't better!

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:NKxgQMHz Thu 29 Dec 2022 02:46:46 No.5511404 Report

Quoted By: >>5511419

Thread is slowing down so im gonna spam with the stuff I asked a robot to make from midjourney, hope everyone enjoys what it interpreted from my prompts

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:NKxgQMHz Thu 29 Dec 2022 03:02:10 No.5511419 Report

Quoted By: >>5511424

>>5511404

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:NKxgQMHz Thu 29 Dec 2022 03:06:56 No.5511424 Report

Quoted By: >>5511425

>>5511419

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:NKxgQMHz Thu 29 Dec 2022 03:09:17 No.5511425 Report

Quoted By: >>5511489

>>5511424

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:+jqwrwjZ Thu 29 Dec 2022 03:44:15 No.5511452 Report

Quoted By: >>5511493

Betray not Shiva, lest greed burn out your heart.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:5BOFc93B Thu 29 Dec 2022 04:24:18 No.5511489 Report

Quoted By: >>5511520

>>5511425

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4LCj/hcO Thu 29 Dec 2022 04:25:40 No.5511493 Report

Quoted By:

>>5511452
>an albino monke
*beep boop beep*
HELLO? IS THIS THE EUGENICS POLICE??

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:5BOFc93B Thu 29 Dec 2022 04:49:32 No.5511520 Report

Quoted By: >>5511524

>>5511489
Still me

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:5BOFc93B Thu 29 Dec 2022 04:56:23 No.5511524 Report

Quoted By: >>5511525

>>5511520

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:5BOFc93B Thu 29 Dec 2022 04:58:04 No.5511525 Report

Quoted By: >>5511527

>>5511524

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:5BOFc93B Thu 29 Dec 2022 04:59:16 No.5511527 Report

Quoted By: >>5511559

>>5511525

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:5BOFc93B Thu 29 Dec 2022 05:50:59 No.5511559 Report

Quoted By: >>5511561 >>5511783 >>5511903

>>5511527

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:5BOFc93B Thu 29 Dec 2022 05:52:57 No.5511561 Report

Quoted By: >>5511565 >>5511570 >>5511883

>>5511559

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:5BOFc93B Thu 29 Dec 2022 05:54:25 No.5511565 Report

Quoted By: >>5511605 >>5511619

>>5511561

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4LCj/hcO Thu 29 Dec 2022 05:58:16 No.5511570 Report

Quoted By:

>>5511561
RIP

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XT0RYiyd Thu 29 Dec 2022 06:37:45 No.5511605 Report

Quoted By:

>>5511565
Those are great anon, but Talacent's shit-eating grin fits perfectly. He really was the best Supreme.

And AI still cannot into hands.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Sr8ATq27 Thu 29 Dec 2022 07:01:42 No.5511619 Report

Quoted By: >>5511625

>>5511565
Got any of the recent monkes/events?

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:5BOFc93B Thu 29 Dec 2022 07:18:48 No.5511625 Report

Quoted By: >>5511626 >>5511643

>>5511619
Im going through the old threads and doing it timeline wise but yeah I got a death mask that I think came out super fucking kino

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:5BOFc93B Thu 29 Dec 2022 07:22:43 No.5511626 Report

Quoted By: >>5511643

>>5511625
Also heres black and white knives, it went for brutal ellagance thing and I was stoked

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:jnP0nKZL Thu 29 Dec 2022 07:39:54 No.5511636 Report

Quoted By:

We need to attach Yino to the mega-city project as a 'cultural supervisor'. We've got the most boring Monke ever running the design and construction of the thing, we need to add someone to the project who can add a bit of artistic flair and make the city an inspiring place to live.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WFK/Upwl Thu 29 Dec 2022 07:46:23 No.5511643 Report

Quoted By:

>>5511625
>>5511626
damn, they are kino

BananasQM

BananasQM ID:6Qgfg3ZF Thu 29 Dec 2022 08:15:33 No.5511655 Report

Quoted By: >>5511820 >>5513469

Hey thanks for sharing these. You had some new ones! I especially liked the knives and the masks, but that interpretation of the Hazaar is really interesting too.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Thu 29 Dec 2022 13:02:25 No.5511783 Report

Quoted By: >>5511883

>>5511559
THIS is what x*no lovers are trying to defend

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:5BOFc93B Thu 29 Dec 2022 14:12:26 No.5511820 Report

Quoted By:

>>5511655
For sure man, have another ill keep making em till we finish this or the curse takes effect, its honestly really fun to play with AI too!

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fB6YMAfD Thu 29 Dec 2022 16:04:47 No.5511883 Report

Quoted By: >>5511903

>>5511783
It was >>5511561, actually.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Thu 29 Dec 2022 16:41:37 No.5511903 Report

Quoted By:

>>5511883
Blue Hazaar don't really look like that, though. They're literally just hazaar but blue.

It's an interesting take, i'll say, but it's not even close to canon. Bluey would just look like >>5511559 with a blue skin.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5BOFc93B Thu 29 Dec 2022 17:58:39 No.5511925 Report

Quoted By: >>5511961

I disagree with your assessment that theyd be just a hazaar but blue is way off, the whole point using any available DNA to your offsprings benefit and then taking those variable or at least part of them I imagine theyd take on a variety of different "monkey" features but to differing degrees depending on what tissue and genetic memory is stored around the embryo, Bluey and Yuan both show pretty different characteristics and even their crests/plumes are very different shapes, I know its likely a style choice but even then we have to think with all the pieces
Kek but I was trying to shoot for something a little less pink, so I do wanna rework it a little and it is just the rendition I chose from what the AI made

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Thu 29 Dec 2022 18:43:44 No.5511961 Report

Quoted By:

>>5511925
>I disagree with your assessment that theyd be just a hazaar but blue is way off
They pretty much look like that in the art, though

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:XhirWOa4 Thu 29 Dec 2022 23:22:16 No.5512164 Report

Quoted By: >>5512171 >>5512175 >>5512248 >>5512272 >>5512545

Been rereading old threads as a way to pass the time before the new one. I wonder if these two anons are still around.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:mgb3np4f Thu 29 Dec 2022 23:27:03 No.5512171 Report

Quoted By:

>>5512164

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Thu 29 Dec 2022 23:27:54 No.5512175 Report

Quoted By: >>5512187

>>5512164
probably wishing that yuan killed himself

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XhirWOa4 Thu 29 Dec 2022 23:42:09 No.5512187 Report

Quoted By: >>5512193 >>5512248 >>5512272 >>5512852

>>5512175
I know I wish Jealousy had won out over the HURR DURR HATRED IS MORE INTERESTING anons. A jealous Yuan would have given us a tech in exchange for making Xin a blue hazaar homeworld. A hateful philosopher Yuan cost us the Vetuckians, among many other things, and gave us nothing in return.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Thu 29 Dec 2022 23:46:38 No.5512193 Report

Quoted By: >>5512219 >>5512272

>>5512187
It would have been definitely more interesting, yes.

I suppose it's to be expected of this points that anons will vote something stupid, be warned that this is stupid, continue to do so, and then see as the exact thing they said would happen, happens.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:XhirWOa4 Fri 30 Dec 2022 00:15:53 No.5512219 Report

Quoted By:

>>5512193
Yep. Many such cases.

RIP Swall. You were too trusting for this world.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 30 Dec 2022 01:15:05 No.5512248 Report

Quoted By: >>5512267 >>5512526

>>5512164
I’ve been saying that I was a Cassandra all this time, I’m just sad I was fucking right on the money.

>>5512187
I think that was a mix of the Moralfags and the Larpers on that one.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DlHe7Yk7 Fri 30 Dec 2022 01:46:46 No.5512267 Report

Quoted By: >>5512286 >>5512289

>>5512248
Who's Cassandra

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Tk/P4wA/ Fri 30 Dec 2022 01:55:38 No.5512272 Report

Quoted By: >>5512526

>>5512164
Nobody players chose to genocide all xenos for social stability. BQM-piloting-Wrix chose that.

>>5512193
>>5512187
If a quest presents itself primarily as a narrative but is actually a puzzle game based around figuring out and playing to an author's understanding of political, historical, and ethical patterns, I don't believe it's entirely on the anons' "stupidity" that they played it as if it were the former rather than the latter.

I know I'll be voting strategically to strengthen the Hazaar Vassal State in the next thread, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Fri 30 Dec 2022 02:14:05 No.5512286 Report

Quoted By:

>>5512267
Wiki it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Tk/P4wA/ Fri 30 Dec 2022 02:16:15 No.5512289 Report

Quoted By: >>5512634

>>5512267
A figure from Greek myth with the gift of prophecy, but cursed so that nobody will ever believe her until their doom has already come to pass.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XhirWOa4 Fri 30 Dec 2022 06:53:40 No.5512526 Report

Quoted By: >>5512545

>>5512248
>I think that was a mix of the Moralfags and the Larpers on that one.
I literally just read the discussion, some larpers and moralfags voted for hate, but the main argument used against those who argued for jealousy was HURR DURR HATRED IS MORE INTERESTING

>>5512272
>Nobody players chose to genocide all xenos for social stability. BQM-piloting-Wrix chose that.
Players chose to have Cijan end the coup, for Wrix to wear the mask and for the resurrected Cijan to kneel, all for social stability. Can't claim they're blameless in this.

>If a quest presents itself primarily as a narrative but is actually a puzzle game based around figuring out and playing to an author's understanding of political, historical, and ethical patterns, I don't believe it's entirely on the anons' "stupidity" that they played it as if it were the former rather than the latter.
Narrative does not mean "anything I pick is equally likely to work, the QM will make it all work out, anons should stop arguing for efficiency because it doesn't matter". There is nothing in a narrative that implies there are no wrong choices, and we have known there are wrong choices ever since we chose to experiment with projectile weapons for our fleet and found out it was a dead end. You are completely retarded if you disregard the people telling you "there will be bad consequences for your choices" after they're proven right time and again.

I'm not saying the players are solely responsible for this. Bananas was the one who genocided the Vetuckers and the Swall, not the players and not Wrix, and he deserves the blame, just like he deserves the blame for cow ntr (RIP gentle, loyal, naive cows). But everything from Yuan's beginning to the end and disappearance of Cijan was 100% the fault of retarded anons who kept refusing to believe Cassandra because what she was telling them was more boring than their delusions.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4LCj/hcO Fri 30 Dec 2022 07:22:14 No.5512545 Report

Quoted By: >>5512556

>>5512526
It isn't a matter of
>"anything I pick is equally likely to work, the QM will make it all work out, anons should stop arguing for efficiency because it doesn't matter"
It means that, when there isn't a clear line between cause (vote) and effect (outcome), players make decisions based on similarly abstract reasoning. In the screenshot at >>5512164, you can see it: Aumunu flipping his lid actually improved society, despite seeming counterintuitive at the time. Other votes that involved going against the grain led to positive outcomes, too. Obviously sometimes we're going to "lose", but generally those losses should be telegraphed and have player input along the way if the ostensible player character is making the decisions.

Yuan'tul going the hate-route created an interesting danger, and I stand by that vote, even as I lament the (not at all inevitable) result of Swall and Vetuck extinction, which was (in my opinion) a weird QMing choice which undercut a lot of our narrative investment. I'm excited for the arc wherein the HVS and Hegemony proper come to blows.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XhirWOa4 Fri 30 Dec 2022 07:37:37 No.5512556 Report

Quoted By: >>5512562 >>5512849

>>5512545
>It means that, when there isn't a clear line between cause (vote) and effect (outcome), players make decisions based on similarly abstract reasoning.
Except there is a line, albeit one that is not marked with flashing neon signs. Plenty of people saw that line and were ignored because HURR DURR HATRED IS MORE INTERESTING.
>Aumunu
As anons said at the time, there was no bad outcome for the hegemony there. If he flipped out he'd be silenced and disappeared, and that was exactly what happened. No one could have foreseen the techs we gained from that. But plenty of anons foresaw Yuan's hatred leading us to exactly this. The way we got here was not to your, or my, liking, but these people were proven right by the destination.

>which was (in my opinion) a weird QMing choice which undercut a lot of our narrative investment.
This is the only thing I agree with. This specific step on the road that lead us here was a weird and disappointing QM decision, but every other step of the way had anons gleefully vote for it.

>I'm excited for the arc wherein the HVS and Hegemony proper come to blows.
I knos you will ignore me because what I tell you is less exciting than whatever you're cooking up in your imagination, but this arc will be quickly resolved by us doing whatever we want to the vassal state because they're nothing but a weak, young vassal, not a true rival. There will be no "coming to blows" with them in the way you mean it. The conflict is over before it even started because of our overwhelming might.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4LCj/hcO Fri 30 Dec 2022 07:42:58 No.5512562 Report

Quoted By: >>5512602

>>5512556
>these people were proven right by the destination
There's a very meta discussion to be had about whether the end result, as we received it, was inevitable or the result of the QM playing into some expectations while trying to go against them to shock and punish.

>every other step of the way had anons gleefully vote for it
Approximately 55% of anons for most of the decisions, and some of them halfheartedly.

>The conflict is over before it even started because of our overwhelming might
We'll see, but I'm hopeful that the HVS has in it the seeds of greatness and adventure, and maybe the restoration of certain aspects of the quest which initially appealed to me. If I'm right, I'm happy. If I'm wrong... Well, then the quest is either going in unexpected ways I like anyway (very possible, because BQM remains a very talented QM indeed) or it goes in a direction I can't follow.

I choose to have faith and play another thread. Bananas deserves that, in my opinion.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XhirWOa4 Fri 30 Dec 2022 08:30:48 No.5512602 Report

Quoted By: >>5512620

>>5512562
>There's a very meta discussion to be had about whether the end result, as we received it, was inevitable or the result of the QM playing into some expectations while trying to go against them to shock and punish.
"If you choose X, Y will happen" is a very simple statement that has been proven right in Yuan's case, as in many others. Everything else is cope.

>Approximately 55% of anons for most of the decisions, and some of them halfheartedly.
Completely irrelevant. It could be relevant if we wanted to restart the "samefagging" argument, but I'm not sure anyone wants to open that particular can of worms.

>I choose to have faith and play another thread. Bananas deserves that, in my opinion.
I'm still here as well, for now. But I used to love the quest and now it's just something I'm reading more out of habit, and both anon's consistent retardedness and Bananas's subversion of expectations played a part in my continued disillusion.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4LCj/hcO Fri 30 Dec 2022 08:50:27 No.5512620 Report

Quoted By:

>>5512602
How can everything else be cope if you still feel Bananas subverted what one could reasonably expect? How are anons "gleefully" voting for things you think are bad and wrong when approximately half of them voted against it and at least some of those who voted for it were doing so with different expectations of the result, or with written caveats, or with an air of resignation?

We're on page 10, though, so I'll just end this on a hopeful note: I think BQM has a vision in mind, and I have hope that vision is both flexible and not wholly depressing. I trust him to let us guide this narrative to more satisfying shores.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:vIW/iSqw Fri 30 Dec 2022 09:11:48 No.5512634 Report

Quoted By:

>>5512289
Thanks, anon. I legitimately don't remember ever hearing about her, that's odd.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Fri 30 Dec 2022 16:51:10 No.5512849 Report

Quoted By:

>>5512556
In the past I would say BQM is a better writer than that but they have shown a bad habit of having interesting characters and concepts go wasted in the background so I worry you may be right about the HVS

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Fri 30 Dec 2022 16:52:54 No.5512852 Report

Quoted By: >>5512855

>>5512187
>A hateful philosopher Yuan cost us the Vetuckians, among many other things, and gave us nothing in return.
Yuan didn't cost us all that, Wrix did.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Fri 30 Dec 2022 16:56:26 No.5512855 Report

Quoted By: >>5513002 >>5513071

>>5512852
It didn't really matter which supreme it was, the vetucker were destroyed as 'punishment' from BQM, since yuan's plot had to result in an 'loss', just like it would have led to the sudden, irreversible destruction of the jaxtian race if he chose biologist

He destroyed them because if they just killed the swalli, we wouldn't have been disappointed

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RwlPI2X3 Fri 30 Dec 2022 21:01:11 No.5513002 Report

Quoted By:

>>5512855
this

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JmHETEhz Fri 30 Dec 2022 22:23:32 No.5513071 Report

Quoted By: >>5513082 >>5513091

>>5512855
>since yuan's plot had to result in an 'loss',
As BQM stated, the "loss" was the political crisis. How the players responded was up to us .

While I think picking the mask leading to a genocide was a bit of a rattlesnake there were at least half a dozen votes in that thread that would have less to outcomes other than genocide. It is incorrect to say that it was inevitable from the original Yuan vote.

For example, we could have

>Not voted to ally with the Supremacists and launch a coup
>Voted to accept limits on The Supreme's power
>Voted to not put on the mask
>Voted to not bow to Wrix

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DZ1C2yKJ Fri 30 Dec 2022 22:41:02 No.5513082 Report

Quoted By: >>5513378 >>5513468

>>5513071
Not bowing to Wrix would have resulted in a nearly complete cultural purge, though, which I believe anons would be just as mad about if not more. I liked the Vetuckers and Swall, but I like monke knife autism more. A lot of those other decisions are hindsight or screwed-either-way situations, too.

We didn't know or have reason to really suspect we were voting for Hwat to join a coup.

Limiting the Supreme's power would have generated salt and whiny anons from what some call the "Larper" bloc.

Not wearing the mask would have led to the Hegemony schisming more dramatically and got all the Larpers and xenophobes whining about how we destroyed the government because of our heckin' good xenos.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Fri 30 Dec 2022 22:48:36 No.5513091 Report

Quoted By: >>5513380

>>5513071
The vetucker really didn't need to die, though. That was just being bad on purpose.

Also, do i need to remind you again of how the mask vote wasn't even really an concrete win due to split people that wanted stuff *other* than wearing akule's mask?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WM/klvma Sat 31 Dec 2022 04:44:37 No.5513378 Report

Quoted By: >>5513468 >>5513543

>>5513082
I'm not saying players would like all other endpoints. I am saying
"I told you voting for hatred would lead to genocide" isn't true because that was just the first vote in a long series of votes

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WM/klvma Sat 31 Dec 2022 04:46:46 No.5513380 Report

Quoted By:

>>5513091
I'm very open with how I think Thread 7 wasn't QMed properly.

I also think the quests subject matter attracts a certain odious type of player .

Those two factors are what led me from seeing Monkequest as one of my favorite forms of entertainment across all media to something I haphazardly check sometimes.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4LCj/hcO Sat 31 Dec 2022 06:43:54 No.5513468 Report

Quoted By:

>>5513378
>"I told you voting for hatred would lead to genocide" isn't true because that was just the first vote in a long series of votes
I (>>5513082) agree with you. I believe it's XhirWOa4 claiming the opposite.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:4LCj/hcO Sat 31 Dec 2022 06:45:11 No.5513469 Report

Quoted By: >>5513823

>>5511655
BQM, is picrel actually you?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XhirWOa4 Sat 31 Dec 2022 09:11:14 No.5513543 Report

Quoted By:

>>5513378
>"I told you voting for hatred would lead to genocide" isn't true because that was just the first vote in a long series of votes
That's true for everything though. Every long term consequence comes after a long series of votes, so you can never say that "Voting for X will lead to Y" unless Y happens right this instant.

Huh, I think you helped me figure out why most anons are adhd retards who give no thought to long-term consequences at all.

BananasQM

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BananasQM ID:6Qgfg3ZF Sat 31 Dec 2022 12:54:59 No.5513643 Report

Quoted By: >>5513645 >>5513785 >>5513789 >>5513823

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Sat 31 Dec 2022 12:58:34 No.5513645 Report

Quoted By: >>5513772

>>5513643
fuck you i want the cowbros back

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JTXJltSw Sat 31 Dec 2022 16:22:11 No.5513772 Report

Quoted By: >>5513773 >>5513854

>>5513645
Next time I pitch reviving them in some fashion, support me.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Sat 31 Dec 2022 16:23:37 No.5513773 Report

Quoted By: >>5513778

>>5513772
But that won't really be them, will it?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:vSz/WI35 Sat 31 Dec 2022 16:27:51 No.5513778 Report

Quoted By: >>5513787

>>5513773
Considering we were already reprogramming their society into a copy of the Hegemony, it will be as much "them" as their descendants would have been anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:wcF8KLwj Sat 31 Dec 2022 16:30:33 No.5513785 Report

Quoted By: >>5513791 >>5514156

>>5513643
Are you slowly realizing that /qst/ players are actually, unironically, honest-to-god braindead and you don't want to interact with them anymore?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Sat 31 Dec 2022 16:31:52 No.5513787 Report

Quoted By: >>5513792

>>5513778
Not everything, though. They had plenty of stuff that was left from their old culture,

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:vSz/WI35 Sat 31 Dec 2022 16:32:37 No.5513789 Report

Quoted By:

>>5513643
I'm sorry for the active hostility of certain players, BQM.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Sat 31 Dec 2022 16:34:24 No.5513791 Report

Quoted By: >>5514037 >>5514095

>>5513785
Like the other sites are anny better

Akun would have probably voted for eoba to fuck bluey or some other gay-ass shit

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:vSz/WI35 Sat 31 Dec 2022 16:37:38 No.5513792 Report

Quoted By: >>5513795

>>5513787
For NOW. Had they remained at Jaxt's mercy, they would have become as Jaxtian as feasible or they would been reviled.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Sat 31 Dec 2022 16:39:11 No.5513795 Report

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>>5513792
The Hegemony kept a bunch of pre-hegemony culture tidbits, the same would happen to the Vetuckers.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QFXcpWGW Sat 31 Dec 2022 17:02:01 No.5513823 Report

Quoted By: >>5514631

>>5513643
If >>5513469 is the case, I’m sorry you feel like that. I sorta wanted to share some ideas with ya over Discord later, if you don’t mind.

Either way, Happy New Years Bananas and everyone!

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:XhirWOa4 Sat 31 Dec 2022 17:24:05 No.5513854 Report

Quoted By:

>>5513772
You have my axe

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:wcF8KLwj Sat 31 Dec 2022 22:29:14 No.5514037 Report

Quoted By: >>5514055 >>5514100 >>5514156

>>5513791
At least they are civil.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Sat 31 Dec 2022 22:41:29 No.5514055 Report

Quoted By: >>5514058 >>5514095 >>5514366

>>5514037
No, i think i'd prefer to read endless arguments about politics straight out of memri tv than to watch a monkey railing an ant eater.

Akun is literally all faggotry. I tried to find if there was anything good there given the popularity. Nope. All faggots and degenerates.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:wcF8KLwj Sat 31 Dec 2022 22:46:08 No.5514058 Report

Quoted By: >>5514059 >>5514156

>>5514055
I meant
>other sites

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Sat 31 Dec 2022 22:48:09 No.5514059 Report

Quoted By: >>5514087 >>5514095

>>5514058
Akun is usually what people in this board mean when they mention other sites for some retarded reason

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:p2W3jMhG Sat 31 Dec 2022 23:14:48 No.5514087 Report

Quoted By: >>5514090 >>5514156

>>5514059
>some retarded reason
You should know, you're one of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Sat 31 Dec 2022 23:18:25 No.5514090 Report

Quoted By: >>5514095

>>5514087
I'm not the one who mentioned another site first

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:p2W3jMhG Sat 31 Dec 2022 23:21:11 No.5514095 Report

Quoted By: >>5514100 >>5514156

>>5513791
>>5514055
>>5514059
>>5514090
uhh

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Sat 31 Dec 2022 23:25:31 No.5514100 Report

Quoted By: >>5514109

>>5514095
He asked if bananas realized /qst/ players are braindead, implying the others are better as shown in >>5514037

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:p2W3jMhG Sat 31 Dec 2022 23:32:58 No.5514109 Report

Quoted By: >>5514112 >>5514156

>>5514100
You're the one who said "other sites" and then proceeded to interpret the response as being solely related to akun before saying everyone does this when they mean "other sites".

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Sat 31 Dec 2022 23:35:23 No.5514112 Report

Quoted By: >>5514156

>>5514109
he said /qst/ players are bad

therefore, this must be in comparison to the readers of another site

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:p2W3jMhG Sun 01 Jan 2023 00:28:28 No.5514156 Report

Quoted By: >>5514190 >>5515711

>>5514112
I seem. Let me explain
>>5513785 >>5514037 >>5514058 >>5514087 >>5514095 >>5514109
>>all me
Now will you stop talking about akun?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Sun 01 Jan 2023 00:45:16 No.5514190 Report

Quoted By: >>5514200

>>5514156
Don't use an specifier if you're not comparing, stoopid

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:p2W3jMhG Sun 01 Jan 2023 00:53:46 No.5514200 Report

Quoted By: >>5514225

>>5514190
You're the stupid one. /qst/ players are fucking morons is what I said and I stand by it, the rest is in your head.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Sun 01 Jan 2023 01:07:10 No.5514225 Report

Quoted By: >>5514250

>>5514200
Well, i'll be waiting till you show me a place that's better

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:DPVv7k15 Sun 01 Jan 2023 01:32:35 No.5514250 Report

Quoted By: >>5514293

>>5514225
>I have to have last word that has nothing to do with your initial statement
Cool, shut the fuck up.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Sun 01 Jan 2023 02:04:25 No.5514293 Report

Quoted By:

>>5514250
Still waiting.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:WM/klvma Sun 01 Jan 2023 02:52:13 No.5514366 Report

Quoted By: >>5514389 >>5514556

>>5514055
>Queer characters are worse than a thread being overridden by Tuckerposting.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Sun 01 Jan 2023 03:07:22 No.5514389 Report

Quoted By:

>>5514366
Read what i said again, and that's my answer.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:VULq+NX1 Sun 01 Jan 2023 05:31:11 No.5514556 Report

Quoted By: >>5515133

>>5514366
the most amusing part being that we alrasdy have queer characters and even a "homosexual" sex scene in this quest.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Zbp5aNTF Sun 01 Jan 2023 07:07:44 No.5514631 Report

Quoted By:

>>5513823
>not getting the joke

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Sun 01 Jan 2023 20:25:40 No.5515133 Report

Quoted By: >>5515178

>>5514556
There is an alien race that doesn't have women, yes.

But i guess that means turning the whole thing into yaoi fiction is totally heccin better than having in-universe related political arguments, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4LCj/hcO Sun 01 Jan 2023 21:07:26 No.5515178 Report

Quoted By: >>5515185

>>5515133
What a bizarre dichotomy you have invented to justify an argument that doesn't need to happen. I can see why our QM might need a break.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Sun 01 Jan 2023 21:18:20 No.5515185 Report

Quoted By: >>5515252

>>5515178
Hey, i'm not the one who said that other places are better than /qst/

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5BOFc93B Sun 01 Jan 2023 22:39:46 No.5515252 Report

Quoted By: >>5515296

>>5515185
Youre only proving you have no ability to grow as a person anon, no argument was needed, as he already said

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:RI2NvpT1 Sun 01 Jan 2023 23:20:28 No.5515296 Report

Quoted By: >>5515302

>>5515252
Maybe, but i'm right.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5BOFc93B Sun 01 Jan 2023 23:27:53 No.5515302 Report

Quoted By:

>>5515296
Youre correct in saying you didnt say something, but he didnt either you sperg, all he said was there are better sites, which yes there are, stop arguing to argue, if you reply to my post youre now admitting to having incestuous thoughts of your mother

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Buc70O7K Sun 01 Jan 2023 23:56:12 No.5515326 Report

Quoted By:

guys its fucking new years chill

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:geEwkHkZ Mon 02 Jan 2023 08:46:16 No.5515711 Report

Quoted By:

>>5514156
It shall be known forever more as Akun the Unspeakable.

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