Grand Zen-Oh, the omni king and ruler of the omniverse has declared there will be a massive tournament to be held in his honor. A grand affair between several universes, each battling it out for the very right to exist. And at the forefront of this grand spectacle will be the Saiyans of Universe 7, who Grand Zen-Oh has grown fond of watching battle. Twenty eight years ago, the Saiyan race were annexed into the PTO as just another race, one of many sent to conquer other worlds. Now, the Saiyans are widely regarded as the strongest warrior race in the entire Seventh Universe, defenders of the PTO led by their strongest, the “Dragon of New Salda” General Karn and his family.
You the players will (most often) control Karn. A man who has grown from his lowly beginnings as a Saiyan Brawler with a sub-3000 powerlevel in Age 733 to become not only the strongest Saiyan of his time at AGE 759, but also personal friend to the former emperor Lord Freeza, father to well over a dozen powerful and unique children, a mentor and teacher to his fellow Saiyans, and the best hope for his universe's continued survival. No one warrior can hope to battle eight other universes' strongest fighters alone and hope to prevail, one man's power and skill won't be enough to overcome the looming threat of extermination. But this coming battle will be the ultimate test of how you've lived your life until now, the choices you made not only for yourself, but for the fate of your entire universe.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 16 Aug 2025 15:56:25 No. 6291271 Report >>6291267 Previously on Saiyan Conqueror Quest:
After Chaya vs Toppo ended by stoppage, neither fighter winning, the Grand Priest announced that the tournament would begin in only 40 hours. A battle royal lasting 48 minutes, eighty fighters from eight universes competing to ensure their own survival. And upon returning to his universe Karn immediately got to work. Recruiting his firstborn son Chilli and asking him to recruit a second magic-wielder, Plastic Man of Ubo's adoptive homeworld, then his daughter Caulifla as well. And as we rejoin Karn, with nine of the ten slots for the Tournament of Power decided, you suddenly get a surprising call telepathically.
“Hey, Dad, Mom! I had an idea!” Chaya suddenly <span class="mu-i">thinks</span> to you and your wife. “I know just who to bring along!”
“Oh? You know someone who should fight with us?” you reply, but can almost <span class="mu-i">see</span> your daughter shaking her head as she answers.
“No, not to fight. But to help us with our strategy before we get there.” she answers, you feeling a little intrigued. “After all, she even planned out how to beat me.”
“Oh, interesting. Go ahead and let King Cold know, he and Kars are still the ones planning how we should tackle this tournament.” your wife replies. “We're still looking for who should fill the final spot.”
“You're already at nine? It hasn't even been an hour yet!” Chaya exclaims, shock evident through the mental link. “You're on a roll!”
“Thanks. But we're not sure who to round out our team with.” you tell her honestly. Filling her in on your current team, including leaving one spot to Chilli to recruit a second mage to back him up. “We've got one slot to finish our team with, then we can prepare for the tournament.”
“I see... Hmmm... Could...” Chaya starts, a moment later appearing before you. A conflicted look on her face. “Would you, I mean... Can I recruit the last member?”
“Do you have someone in mind?” your wife replies, eyes narrowing slightly. As if she knows something you don't.
“Maybe. If they say yes, could be a powerful ally. But...” she says, trailing off. “Can I have an hour to see if I can recruit the last member?”
Well? How do you reply?
>Agree to her request, if she thinks she can recruit a powerful ally you're in >Tell her you appreciate her offer, but you already have some ideas who to get >Ask why she wants to recruit someone, if it is only because her brother did as well or if there's a deeper reason >Accept her offer only after she tells you who it is she wants to recruit >Other(write in)? Anonymous
>>6291271 >Accept her offer only after she tells you who it is she wants to recruit I'm dying to know, and I want to compare our options. best to lay it all down and collaborate.
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>>6291271 >Accept her offer only after she tells you who it is she wants to recruit It's not that I don't trust her, but I am curious.
It wouldn't happen to be a certain bald cyborg in a stylish orange gi, would it? Anonymous
>>6291275 >spoiler he's got heart, but well...
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>>6291271 >Accept her offer only after she tells you who it is she wants to recruit Anonymous
>>6291277 I do actually think he could function as a legit asset to our team given his unique abilities. The power discrepancy is definitely an issue, but it's not like he doesn't know how to work around that by now.
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>>6291275 >spoiler No. While she likes him, she also realizes after the U9 expo matches he doesn't stand a chance on his own. While he does have good teamwork, she can't play defense for him the entire tournament.
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Rolled 1, 2 = 3 (2d7) >>6291274 >>6291275 >>6291279 >>6291282 Unanimously, Accept her offer only after she tells you who it is she wants to recruit wins it. Very well, writing.
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>>6291280 But it doesn't last for very long is the issue. Even then, with the powers currently on display, it could overclock his equipment pretty easily and he could get himself mortally injured. Energy Absorption is a pretty good skill and endless stamina to keep firing at 100% is a big deal, but he just isn't in the appropriate weightclass and lacks the top tier skill collection for this tournament, not in this timeline. You have to remember that not that long ago, the biggest and most dangerous threat for him was Namek Saga Freeza level, and he needed a team to back him up.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 16 Aug 2025 17:38:50 No. 6291330 Report >>6291271 “Okay. But, first, before I agree. You have to tell me who you want to recruit.” you tell her seriously.
“It's Raditz.” she answers, without hesitation. “You saw how powerful his Apex form was when we fought, while under that Tuffle's control. If he can still use that level of power, he'll be invaluable.”
“Do you really think he'll listen to you?” your wife asks her pointedly. Not in some sort of accusatory tone, but rather one of caring with a hint of worry. “Will he even talk if you approach him?”
“Yeah. He will. After all, he has something to fight for.” she replies, raising her right hand to her forehead. “And a family he can't lose again. I know Radi, he'll do whatever it takes to keep them safe.”
“As long as you're sure about this. If he agrees let us know.” you answer, Chaya nodding solemnly once before closing her eyes for several seconds, then vanishing. Leaving you and Meloka still standing in Chilli's dining room, Megumin, Kazuburo, and your son having watched the exchange silently.
“Well then, now that you don't have anywhere urgent to be, will you be joining us to eat now?” your daughter in law Megumin asks with a slight teasing tone to her voice. To which you and your wife share a look, then agree. Taking seats at your son's crystalline table. Yet somehow he managed to change to colors of the crystals so they look like wood, and looking around everything, despite having been made of crystal before, now all seems to be different textures.
“I've had plenty of free time now, now that I don't sleep.” he says, noticing your curious gaze. “Gave me time to get to projects I'd been putting off, like warming up the colors of my home. Instead of everything being that same pale, faintly-glowing blue.”
“And it looks great!” your grandson shouts eagerly, wanting to be included. To which you laugh, reaching over and ruffling his hair before Megumin comes over with several small plates of some sort of roasted meat, the smell now that it's in front of you causing your mouth to water. “Yaaay! Thanks Mom!”
“Hehe, of course, Kazuburo. You need to eat everything to grow up big and strong, like your grandfather.” she tells her son with a smile. You all sit and eat together, the food quite delicious in a more homey sort of way than Silver's culinary perfection. You all enjoy the meal, then once it's over you and your wife prepare to leave. “Thanks for stopping by, you're always welcome here.”
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 16 Aug 2025 17:39:53 No. 6291331 Report >>6291330 “Leaving already?” Kazuburo asks, clearly a little disappointed. “Big sis' school is almost over, are you sure you don't want to stay?”
“We'd love to stay, but some other time. We have things to do kiddo.” you tell him, reaching across the table and ruffling his hair once more. “We'll be back once this tournament's finished.”
“Do you promise?” he asks excitedly.
“Promise.” Meloka adds in, grinning to him as you turn to Chilli.
“Let us know who you pick, and a general sense of what they can do. We're going to be planning strategy soon, the more we know of everyone's powers and abilities the better we can plan.”
“Understood.” he says, rising to his feet as you and your wife do as well. Looking for a moment as if he wants to say more, but biting his tongue over it. “I won't let you down.”
But what now?
>Instant Transmission back to King Cold and Kars, let them know everything and start devising your plan for the tournament >Head home, teleport back to your home and spend time quietly with your wife for a while. Could be the last time, you're not letting this chance slip through your fingers >Telepathically tell Meloka it's her call what's next, you've made enough calls for awhile >Teleport to Towa, see what information she has on the other universes' potential fighters. See what she knows before Amazo returns with information of this particular timeline. See what major threats the other universes could have waiting >Other(write in)? Anonymous
>>6291331 >>Instant Transmission back to King Cold and Kars, let them know everything and start devising your plan for the tournament here's a plan, have Freeza's Ballroom Blitz the other teams and let them tear each other apart
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>>6291331 >Instant Transmission back to King Cold and Kars, let them know everything and start devising your plan for the tournament Everything seems to be handled for the moment except this. Let's get to brainstorming.
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>>6291333 >here's a plan, have Freeza's Ballroom Blitz the other teams and let them tear each other apart I won't lie, this would be very funny to do at the start when everybody tries to dogpile on Chaya.
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>>6291331 >Instant Transmission back to King Cold and Kars, let them know everything and start devising your plan for the tournament I hope Cold keeps some good coffee onhand for meetings like these.
Anonymous
>>6291331 >Teleport to Towa, see what information she has on the other universes' potential fighters. See what she knows before Amazo returns with information of this particular timeline. See what major threats the other universes could have waiting Anonymous
>>6291331 >Instant Transmission back to King Cold and Kars, let them know everything and start devising your plan for the tournament Honestly bringing Tanya in on this isnt a bad idea either.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 16 Aug 2025 18:18:09 No. 6291354 Report >>6291333 >>6291336 >>6291340 >>6291341 >>6291344 Instant Transmission back to King Cold and Kars, let them know everything and start devising your plan for the tournament wins it. Roll me a single d100, for reasons.
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Rolled 22 (1d100) >>6291354 Anonymous
Rolled 6 (1d100) >>6291354 Anonymous
Rolled 27 (1d100) >>6291354 rollan
>>6291333 I completely forgot he had that kind of ability. Ice Ice Baby is a thing too, right? Hmm..
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 16 Aug 2025 18:44:17 No. 6291380 Report Quoted By:
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Rolled 63 (1d69) >>6291356 >>6291361 >>6291368 Y'all suck.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 16 Aug 2025 20:00:04 No. 6291426 Report >>6291331 “I know you won't. I believe in you.” you tell him, raising your right hand to your forehead. Focusing a moment, then teleporting from Chilli's home back to your own planet. Reappearing beside the emperor of the universe's father, King Cold, and finding yourself inside your city's administrative building. Where a conference table has been set up with several prominent figures all seated there. King Cold and his eldest son Cooler, the current emperor, Chaya's friend Tanya, the Kai-in-training Kars, and even King Vegeta IV.
“Ah, Karn, Meloka, just in time.” King Cold says, gesturing towards a pair of empty seats by King Vegeta. “We were expecting you. Come, sit. We have much to discuss. But first, tell us of the composition of our universe's team. Who shall we have fighting for our survival?”
And so you tell him, going down the list and adding a bit about each of them. Cooler, who is sitting smug, then Freeza and Ginyu, who're currently training in the time chamber. Plastic Man, whose body's powers resemble Ginyu's own. Then to Caulifla, who like Ginyu possesses the ability to heal, as well as her Stand and what you know of its powers. Yourself, then Meloka and Chaya who both have exceptional divine strength, then Chilli and his magic. As well as whoever he chooses amongst his allies who also wields magic, and can support him against the monstrous Moro.
“And lastly, Chaya thinks she can recruit Raditz. We all saw how powerful he was against Chaya in their recent match, when that Tuffle bastard was controlling him. If he still has that level of power, his might could make a difference.” you say, looking around at everyone deep in thought.
“I see. Quite the powerful lineup, and mix of abilities.” King Cold finally finally says. “Four Stand wielders, two healers, two who possess nearly indestructible bodies, two wizards, and several strong powerhouse fighters. Yes, this team possesses the strength and powers to win. Do you have faith in your son to find a talented spellslinger able to keep up?”
“Absolutely. I have no doubts in his judgment.” you answer immediately. “I wouldn't have left it to him if I didn't believe in his ability to judge who would be a good fit.”
“Well, I believe in his judgment, as far as magic goes.” Kars answers you. Only for Tanya to cut in.
“Having a team of aces is one thing. But the real question is how well everyone can fight together?” Tanya speaks up, sitting and drinking from a small cup, pinkie out and seeming poised. “We may have a collection of powerful beings, but I'd hardly call this a team.”
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 16 Aug 2025 20:01:05 No. 6291428 Report >>6291426 “A team can function well together, performing like a well-oiled machine towards a common goal. Tell me, how many fighters on this 'team' have ever worked together?” Tanya continues with that question, setting her cup down and looking around the table. Ending her look specifically on you. “You may have gathered one of, if not the strongest collection of abilities and powers for this upcoming tournament. But this is no team. Tell me, how many have you personally fought along side? I know you have fought with your wife, but how many others?”
“Lord Freeza, we fought and trained together. And, well, I trained my children how to fight.” you answer, Tanya sighing out before continuing.
“This is what I mean.” she says, turning to King Cold and Kars. “We don't have a team.”
“Hmmmm, I see your point.” Kars says, nodding along. “While having a powerful group of allies present, without experience fighting together, it will limit how effectively they function as a group. This could be a problem.”
“What? It should be fine, we all know what we have to do.” you reply. “All we have to do is eliminate every other fighter, and we win.”
“Correct. However, the smartest play for any universe to do would be to keep their fighters together, moving and acting as one unit. If this tournament devolves into a brawl, any universe whose fighters are running together as a ten unit team with coordination and experience through the madness will be able to overwhelm any single combatant in their way. Or even any two or three, especially if their abilities synchronize well together.”
Well, you hate to admit it, but she's right. While you're confident in your ability to handle any single combatant yourself, even that portly Toppo or Universe 6's assassin Hit, possibly even that monster Moro, you can't fight a whole team of elite fighters yourself. Especially if they're as varied as your own universe. While a team like the Ninth's Trio de Danger aren't especially threatening one-on-one, you try and picture how fighting all three simultaneously would go. Having to keep track of that poisonous bastard at all times, inevitably leading to taking a beating from the stronger two. And that's just with three, there's no telling what other sorts of fighters the Ninth has, what other strange and debilitating abilities they could have.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 16 Aug 2025 20:02:07 No. 6291430 Report >>6291428 But what now? How do you address this problem?
>Ask Tanya how to address this issue, if it's something that can be mitigated before the tournament >See if having one of the fighters appointed leader, someone for everyone else to follow and listen to would help mitigate this situation. Having a central authority will handle this lack in teamwork, if everyone can agree whose orders to follow >Ask if you should change the roster to only those you've fought aside and well with before. Would lower the overall power of your team, but if this ability to work together is more important than wide or varied powers, you can always call upon your students >Wave the concern off, you've personally either fought with or against almost every person on this list, it should be fine. Besides, it's not like the other universes will have a team ready for this tournament >Other(write in)? Anonymous
>>6291430 >>Ask Tanya how to address this issue, if it's something that can be mitigated before the tournament Anonymous
>>6291430 >Ask Arctus if he has some sort of simulation software that can dilate perception of time, so you can train this team to work together- perhaps Tanya can provide direction, if such a solution exists I'm gonna bet he has some shit in his back pocket.
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>>6291430 >See if having one of the fighters appointed leader, someone for everyone else to follow and listen to would help mitigate this situation. Having a central authority will handle this lack in teamwork, if everyone can agree whose orders to follow It helps that we have at least 2 members on our line-up with some squad level leadership experience.
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>>6291430 >See if having one of the fighters appointed leader, someone for everyone else to follow and listen to would help mitigate this situation. Having a central authority will handle this lack in teamwork, if everyone can agree whose orders to follow Anonymous
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 16 Aug 2025 20:37:26 No. 6291456 Report >>6291431 >>6291432 >>6291433 >>6291445 >>6291451 See if having one of the fighters appointed leader, someone for everyone else to follow and listen to would help mitigate this situation. Having a central authority will handle this lack in teamwork, if everyone can agree whose orders to follow wins it. Let's see how this plays, roll me a 2d100.
Total DC: ???
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Rolled 24, 50 = 74 (2d100) >>6291456 Anonymous
Rolled 97, 81 = 178 (2d100) >>6291456 Remember to shout "SNEAK ATTACK" so your teammates know when you're about to jump em.
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Rolled 41, 38 = 79 (2d100) >>6291456 GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO
GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 16 Aug 2025 20:41:26 No. 6291464 Report Quoted By:
>>6291458 >>6291461 >>6291462 97/100, 81/100. 178/200, most impressive. Writing.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 16 Aug 2025 21:56:34 No. 6291522 Report >>6291430 “So if the issue is needing to focus our abilities, to function well together, then isn't the solution obvious?” you ask, everyone now looking to you as you meet Tanya's gaze. “We need a leader.”
“A leader.” she replies flatly, but you sensing a curious undertone to her voice. “You think having a leader is enough to handle the scope of this issue?”
“Of course. Having someone who understands everyone's abilities, who can coordinate everyone will be important.” you say, then gesturing over to Kars. “Which is why I recommend Kars for this role. From the stands, he'll be able to observe the entire battlefield, as a Stand wielder he can see them and call them out to us, and best of all, with telepathy, we don't have to shout and call out our strategy to the other universes mid-battle.”
Everyone's silent at your declaration, you seeing them all considering your words. Aside from Kars, who seems rather smug, and Cooler who also looks annoyed. Clearly having been wanting to call himself the Seventh Universe's leader, to feed his ego.
“I see. You have given this some thought. But what if outside influence is forbidden by the gods?” King Cold asks, chin in his right hand as he ponders your idea. “If only those participating can communicate with the combatants?”
“If that were the case, there wouldn't be stands to observe from.” your wife answers, backing you up. “But, having a backup commander wouldn't be a bad idea. Establishing a chain of command could prove important. Kars can't address everyone all at once for the entire 48 minutes.”
“Having a field commander as well as a central command could prove invaluable.” Tanya answers, clearly thinking it over as well. “Someone to control overall strategy, as well as someone down in the proverbial trenches would be necessary in the madness of battle. I agree, having a second-in-command will be necessary. Or even having two, each with authority over their individual groups of four each. The better our leadership structure is, the better we'll be able to work efficiently together. Everyone who you've signed onto our team can follow orders, can't they?”
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 16 Aug 2025 21:57:36 No. 6291523 Report >>6291522 “Of course. The only one I'm not a hundred percent on following orders is Plastic Man, but he should fall in line.” you say, remembering how quickly he'd listened to his own command structure before you'd fought him. “Especially since his role isn't necessarily to battle, but to prevent our team from being rung out.”
“Before we get off topic, who should our leader, or leaders on the ground level be?” Tanya asks, cutting Kars off before he can speak. “Having a clear, concise chain of command in the battle could be effective. But if the leader's aren't respected, or worse ignored, then our entire plan could fall apart.”
“I agree.” King Cold answers. “Having one to two leaders on the ground, with Kars in the stands leading our team, would seem the best way to approach this.”
“I concur.” Kars replies. “So, to who will the roles of leadership go? Who will lead our valiant warriors?”
Well? Who do you think is best for this role?
>Freeza and Cooler >You and Meloka >Chaya and Chilli >You and Ginyu >Freeza and Chilli >Cooler and Meloka >Other(write in)? Anonymous
>>6291523 >Freeza and Cooler Let the Cold Clan flex the diplomacy and charisma that were literally beaten into them.
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>>6291523 >You and Ginyu If this wasn't an option I was going to write it in. We're the only two people on this roster (that I'm aware of) who actually have a decent amount of squad level leadership experience. Frieza and Cooler are capable leaders and everybody else can strategize and think on their feet, but you can't just walk into an NCO role with no prior history and expect it to go well.
I'd also like to add that while Ginyu also has the entire Ginyu Force to worry about, I think most of his mental bandwidth should be freed up thanks to his own squad being a part of himself for the duration of the battle.
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>>6291523 >Freeza and Cooler Anonymous
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>>6291523 >You and Ginyu Need I remind everybody of what happened the last time Cooler was personally in charge of a small group of elite fighters?
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phoneposting right now but this is a really hard decision to make. >Freeza and Cooler I don't want the field leaders to be at each other's throats or have some sort of tension between them, because it would spell DISASTER. Even though neither of the brothers specialize with on the field tactics, last time I checked, Cooler in particular doesn't have the *wisest* battle strategy (cough cough raw super to get bodied combo in 8v8 cough)>You and Meloka I don't think that our meta knowledge will be as useful in this version of the ToP, and leaving decisive strategy to the whims of anons is a mixed bag. That said, Karn does have a background of leading attack squads to plunder and pillage countless planets, as well as coaching and training a collection of pupils. Meloka and Karn have been in many MANY battles together, but I don't think she's ever directed a squad in the midst of battle. Big difference between knowing how to fight on your feet and knowing how to lead.>Chaya and Chilli Chaya, to me at least, seems to be more of a lone wolf. She's confident in her abilities for good reason, but I don't think she's the best judge of her allies' limits, and taking a more reserved role seems antithetical to her character. She's a Champion, not a Tactician. As for Chilli, his plans are pretty awesome, but he NEEDS the prep time, and a battle royale waits for no one. Like the old saying goes, everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.>Freeza and Chilli Iffy on this for the reasons I've stated before.>Cooler and Meloka Same bad blood problem with Freeza and Cooler as captains, but possibly EXAGGERATED. Those two DO NOT like each other.>You and Ginyu Might be the best one. Karn and Ginyu have led squads in the heat of combat, and Ginyu's M.O is teamwork. If he does that fusion trick, we'd be thinking with 6 minds instead of two. And while "too many chefs" are a concern, the Ginyu force are an established unit and I trust that they can get it together. Plus, Karn and Ginyu are amicable to eachother. Leaving it to Anon isn't ideal, but I'm hoping Ginyu can keep the "going full retard" at bay.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 16 Aug 2025 22:29:15 No. 6291547 Report >>6291529 >>6291535 >>6291536 >>6291538 >>6291543 >>6291545 You and Ginyu wins it. Let's see how this goes over, roll me a 3d100.
First DC: ??
Second DC: 40
Third DC: 50
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Rolled 46, 40, 88 = 174 (3d100) >>6291547 Anonymous
Rolled 69, 88, 63 = 220 (3d100) >>6291547 Ah poo, I'm not at my PC. Is prolly alright if I roll anyway.
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Rolled 59, 19, 54 = 132 (3d100) >>6291547 Anonymous
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Rolled 64, 3, 65 = 132 (3d100) >>6291547 Leadership for the win.
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>>6291548 >>6291549 Well, we got the funny roll and dub 88s, pretty solid.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 16 Aug 2025 22:41:26 No. 6291560 Report Quoted By:
>>6291548 >>6291549 >>6291552 69/100, 88/100, 88/100. Two later successes, and a mystery. Interesting choice let's see how things play out. Writing.
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Cooler's going to be a sooky little bitch. Hopefully he'll object less to being in Ginyu's portion of the team, and taking orders from him rather than us.
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>>6291581 Well, he'll have to have learned to suck it up. Existence is on the line here.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 16 Aug 2025 23:58:14 No. 6291588 Report >>6291523 “Before we decide, there is one last point to consider.” King Cold says seriously. “And that is the threat presented by Moro.”
“The longer that monster is allowed to stand, the more energy it will absorb from the universes' strongest warriors. He must be dealt with immediately and decisively.” Kars adds in.
“But we also must establish a defensive position, in the safest portion of the arena.” Tanya interjects. “Defeating one threat does us no good if we're overwhelmed in a bad position because of it, and the other universes eliminate our team in one fell swoop.”
“Which brings us to our next point.” King Cold says, turning to Kars. Who nods, raising a hand and creating a ki structure representation of the Tournament of Power stage.
“Right. The safest place we've all agreed on is the base of the central pillar.” Tanya adds in, the area around the base of the pillar growing brightest. “Which, is no doubt where the other universes will compete to be as well. However, with every universe irrationally blaming Chaya and aiming to eliminate her, wherever she is will doubtless turn into the hottest area of contention. With the only real elimination being ring outs, not even knockouts, the safest place for everyone to have an ally protect them should they go down is the furthest from the edges.”
“Why not the top of the pillar?” Meloka asks, curious. “You'd be able to observe the entire battlefield, and with flying not allowed, only those with teleportation abilities could close the gap before you could react.”
“That place is no doubt bait for the ignorant.” Tanya says, shaking her head. “Standing atop the central pillar is a declaration to anyone with any ranged attacks that there's a free ring out overhead. You'll be unable to fly, so getting blasted by a wave off the stage is game over, even if the attack does no actual damage.”
“And with seventy opponents who could attack you there from any side, even all at once, it's far too vulnerable.” your wife nods, understanding. “Yes, I see, that's far too risky.”
“If we want the best mixture of leaders, and to tackle both goals simultaneously, we need two groups. One to set up our base near the center, and the other team to go out and take Moro down immediately.” you reply, crossing your arms as you ponder. “I will defend, and Ginyu will lead the team going after Moro. Being immune to Moro's energy draining magic, he'll be point, backed up by Chilli and whoever he has as magical support.”
“They'll need heavy power to support them, to help clear their way.” your wife adds, to which you nod.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 16 Aug 2025 23:59:15 No. 6291589 Report >>6291588 “And with Ginyu, one of our two allies who can heal their comrades going, the other team will need to have Caulifla. One healer per team, to prevent either from getting wiped out easily.” Tanya adds in. “I suggest Lords Freeza and Cooler to accompany Ginyu.”
“You would have me play second-fiddle to my own subordinate?” Cooler asks her, a dangerous note creeping into her tone. But Tanya doesn't back down, seemingly getting even more unconcerned as Cooler glares.
“He's your subordinate, he knows what you and your brother can do. And, with him playing tiebreaker, he can stop any arguments you brothers have in the field. Unless you'd rather be Karn's subordinate for the battle?” Tanya asks him, taking another sip of her drink. You turn from her to Cooler, seeing his eye twitch at her words. Pointedly not looking at you, he nods shallowly once.
“Having all of our magic wielders sent out together does make me nervous.” Kars adds in. “Chilli should go after the monster Moro, but you Karn should have the other with you on defense.”
“That's... A rather good point.” you answer, nodding to him. “Splitting up our resources will be important, giving both teams the best chance to handle whatever's thrown their way. Then with Ginyu's team being Cooler, Chilli, and Freeza, my own will be Chaya, Meloka, and Caulifla. Leaving only Raditz and Plastic Man to be decided.”
“Or, with both Chaya and Meloka having divine energy, they should be split as well.” King Cold points out. “Perhaps divine energy will be needed on each end? Besides, I know you're at least as powerful as your daughter.”
His last sentence he says pointedly, meeting Meloka's eyes with a serious gaze. As if he can judge her strength, despite her and Chaya both having divine power.
“Having that power divided between both groups would be advisable.” Kars adds in. “While consolidating power in one group could prove advantageous, with our plan to establish two fronts in this battle, having our power spread more evenly would be for the best.”
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 00:00:16 No. 6291591 Report >>6291589 As so deliberations continue for several more minutes, until the final roster is decided. Your team will consist of Chaya, Plastic Man, Caulifla, and Freeza, while Ginyu will have Cooler, Chilli, Meloka, and Raditz. Creating two teams of equivalent power and skills, each with separate goals. Your team's mission will be to establish your own defensive area near the central pillar, preferably against it, if you can set it up. Not knowing exactly what magical defenses Chilli's recruit will have does slightly alter your plans, as your son's Crystal Magic is quite adept at defending places. However, whoever he picked can't be as physically strong, and will be much more vulnerable going out on offense than your son will be.
“Having Chaya with you will draw the attention of the other universes, keeping them from inadvertently aiding Moro.” Meloka agrees with the final roster, you sending a quick telepathic message to Chilli letting him know the current plan. He answers that he understands, you getting a flash of what looks like the skeleton leader Ainz and the blue-haired one from his daughter's party those months ago fighting on a replica ring. Seems he's putting them against one another, to see who 'earns' the right to fight for the universe.
“Now the only questions are how do we take the area around the pillar, how much of it should we occupy, and how long we should hold it. With a potential seven to one disadvantage, if the worst-case scenario unfolds and every universe attacks ours as one first, how will we maintain position and avoid being overwhelmed?”
“Getting to it won't be a problem.” you reply. “Making a path is easy, the only real question is in how we'll hold it. And how long we should hold it.”
“Without knowing what all the other universes can do, it is rather difficult to prepare definitive plans for defending the area.” Tanya agrees. “Without knowing the scale or how our universe will be approached, it is hard to say. But the better question is, should we try and establish both strategies simultaneously? Perhaps establishing our stronghold first, and then sending out a team after Moro? Or should we send the full power of the seventh after that monster, eliminate him early and then claim our place near the inside?
Well? What do you suggest?
>Send everything after Moro immediately, the sooner he's eliminated the better >Establish a defensive position first, once you all have a solid foothold then send the attack team after Moro >Splitting up is for the best, keep attention on yourself with Chaya and let Ginyu's team eliminate Moro without the other universes' interference >No opinion, the stretegy is up to them. You had them all gather to stratagize, as they're all better at it than you >Other(write in)? Anonymous
>>6291591 wait, we already had ten? why did we let chaya get raditz
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>>6291591 >Establish a defensive position first, once you all have a solid foothold then send the attack team after Moro We have a few squishies that can get picked off if we're not well entrenched and ready, I think this is the wise play even though it lets Moro ramp a bit.
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>>6291591 >Send everything after Moro immediately, the sooner he's eliminated the better We can't really play the long game with Moro around, so a defensive position only functions as a way to lose slower than we would otherwise. Best to take him out before he can drain the rest of the opposition dry and turn into a REAL problem.
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>>6291593 ...oh fuck, you're right.
Maybe Raditz could be an alternate? I don't know!
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>>6291593 Look, math is hard and Chaya's going to do as Chaya does.
>>6291591 >Establish a defensive position first, once you all have a solid foothold then send the attack team after Moro Proper planning and preparation prevents piss poor performance. Moro might even do us a favor and separate the wheat from the chaff for us early on.
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>>6291593 What about that magic user from Chilli? Smuggle him inside Ginyu?
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>>6291604 >Look, math is hard and Chaya's going to do as Chaya does. Raditz vs that magic user to decide final team member.
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>>6291591 >Establish a defensive position first, once you all have a solid foothold then send the attack team after Moro Anonymous
>>6291591 >Establish a defensive position first, once you all have a solid foothold then send the attack team after Moro Anonymous
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>>6291606 I mean, it's really up to Raditz if he wants to fight for that spot or if he wants stay home and act as New Salda's Champion while we're away.
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>Your team will consist of Chaya, Plastic Man, Caulifla, and Freeza, while Ginyu will have Cooler, Chilli, Meloka, and Raditz Odd. That makes 10 fighters already. Does this mean we won't get the skeleton or slime man?
Anywho, these choices. Hard to say, but I think with Toppo and his Pride Troopers, along with those shitty mutts gunning for our tail, forming a tight defensive circle is best to get the rabble to fuck off for a little bit and would allow Plastic Man and Caulifla to excel with their support style kits when we send the attack team to annihilate Moro. HOWEVER, everyone else is going to be going for that spot, and while I don't know everyone that we'll be dealing with (Amazo come back with that intel please), there's Hit and Toppo's team to worry about, if the clown destroyer's claims and Toppo's own are truthful. Moro will not act right away, so I believe that it's best to establish our defenses and give our support the foundation to excel. But we can't get mucked up fighting off the Pride Troopers or U6 for long. If the area is THAT heavily contested, we should regroup and focus our efforts on slaughtering that goat. That said...
>>6291591 >Establish a defensive position first, once you all have a solid foothold then send the attack team after Moro Spirit Fission oughta sort him out. He steals power, right?
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>>6291611 >Spirit Fission oughta sort him out. He steals power, right? On paper, yes. Do note that we actually need to hit him to reverse the flow of his stolen energy, and if he manages to drain Jiren...
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 00:35:37 No. 6291614 Report >>6291593 You'll see >>6291596 >>6291598 >>6291604 >>6291607 >>6291608 >>6291611 Establish a defensive position first, once you all have a solid foothold then send the attack team after Moro wins it. Writing.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 00:38:41 No. 6291615 Report Quoted By:
>>6291614 Dropped my pic. Smile too wide.
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Moro being here really throws the ol' monkey wrench in our plans. All those potential future epilogues couldn't prepare for this guy showing up at the worst possible time.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 02:06:29 No. 6291666 Report >>6291523 “As much as I want to take Moro down immediately, it won't do us any good if it puts us in a terrible position, and we're eliminated as well.” you reply, hand to your chin as you think. “And splitting up, at least initially, seems like a suicidal idea. No, our best bet is to get ourselves established first, and then send our attack team after Moro. While I don't want him absorbing one more ounce of power than absolutely necessary, we have a technique to neutralize his energy absorption.”
“Forced Spirit Fission.” your wife answers, eyes widening in realization.
“I see. Let him gain a little power so we can establish ourselves, then neutralize his absorbed power with that Yardratian technique. Clever.” Kars says with a grin. “And you say you're not a strategist.”
“I'm a lot better at fighting things than planning strategy.” you reply.
“And at counting.” Cooler throws in, you turning to him curiously. “Myself, Freeza, and Ginyu make three. Raditz is four, this Plastic Man five. Then you, Meloka, Chaya, Chilli, and Caulifla makes ten. Who are we dropping for this second magic-wielder your son is recruiting?”
“Wait, what?” you ask, counting them across your fingers, realizing that there are possibly eleven recruits and ten spots. “Well, shit.”
“I'm sure it will be fine. If anything happens and one of our fighters becomes unavailable for whatever reason, having an extra or two won't hurt. Perhaps we should have another extra couple, just in case.” King Cold replies. “Besides, there are still thirty nine full hours before this tournament begins. A lot can change in that time.”
“Hmph.” Cooler replies, crossing his arms but still looking smug and self-satisfied. However, before you can think on it further, suddenly you sense it. A massive powerlevel suddenly just APPEARED, and not in one place. But all around you, all around the room you all are in. Everyone feels it as well, without hesitation rising to their feet and transforming into their strongest forms.
“Be not afraid.” an unfamiliar voice calls as the entire room is bathed in radiant gold, and for a moment reality itself seems <span class="mu-i">wrong</span>. The walls are the floor but also upside-down, the ceiling doesn't exist and your organs are all outside your body, staring at you questioningly. But then reality snaps back into place the way it SHOULD be. With one additional being standing before you all. “I have returned.”
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 02:08:43 No. 6291668 Report >>6291666 “Amazo? That was quick.” you reply, powering back down now that reality's returned to normal. “So, what did you find for us?”
“Quite a lot. From what I saw of the participating universes, I estimate that the Seventh's chances are-” he starts, then stops. Tilting his head slightly. “Would you like to know the odds I have calculated the Seventh Universe's survival at? Or would you rather see the information I have gathered first, and compare your estimation to my own?”
Well? How do you reply?
>You want to hear his estimate first, then start from the weakest to strongest universe you all will fight >Hear out his estimate, then ask to hear about whichever universe will be the most difficult to best >Save his estimate for later, start from the weakest to strongest universe you all will fight >Ask to hear about whichever universe will be the most difficult to overcome first, going in descending order then compare estimates of their ability with your own universe's >Other(write in)? Anonymous
>>6291668 >Save his estimate for later, start from the weakest to strongest universe you all will fight NEVER tell me the odds.
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>>6291668 >Save his estimate for later, start from the weakest to strongest universe you all will fight Gimmie the goods. This is CRITICAL information and I don't need "statistics" to ruin it.
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>>6291668 >>Ask to hear about whichever universe will be the most difficult to overcome first, going in descending order then compare estimates of their ability with your own universe's Anonymous
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Odds are just mathematical guesswork.
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>>6291668 >Save his estimate for later, start from the weakest to strongest universe you all will fight Let's not focus on the boulders just to end up tripping on pebbles
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>>6291668 >Save his estimate for later, start from the weakest to strongest universe you all will fight Will it affect Jiren's attitude towards Karn and Meloka if someone will tell him that they took part in wiping Grey race from universe 7? Were those the same type of Grey that Jiren belongs to?
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 02:42:55 No. 6291698 Report Quoted By:
>>6291690 Yes >>6291671 >>6291677 >>6291679 >>6291688 Save his estimate for later, start from the weakest to strongest universe you all will fight wins it. Time to learn more about what you're up against, writing.
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>>6291690 Our inevitable fray with the Pride Troopers will be more heated than in canon if nothing else. Because unlike Goku, we actually ARE villains by Toppo's definition. How much they know though depends on the gossip and whispers said throught the favric of the universes. That said, commenting that we'll add Jiren to our greyman killcount could have a HELL of a reaction.
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>>6291704 >"You're bigger than I was expecting. Let's hope you aren't as stubborn as the last one I had to deal with." >OWARI DA!!!!! Good news is we'll get rid of Jiren by disqualifying him for killing us lmao
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 03:45:53 No. 6291732 Report >>6291668 “Let's save the estimates for after we've analyzed ourselves.” you answer him, Amazo nodding ever so slightly. “For now, let's start with the weakest, and ascend to the strongest universe we'll be fighting. We need to know what we're up against to better plan.”
“Very well. As you assumed, Karn, the Ninth Universe is the weakest. Their strongest three fighters are the named Trio de Danger you've faced before.” Amazo begins, quickly giving you the rundown on the Ninth. Several of their strongest fighters, like Hyssop and Oregano use binding techniques, Absolute Zero ice and spider-like wrist webs both strong enough to bind you in your base form. Aside from the Trio, however, only one other is of note. The 'Iron Skin Battler' Chappil, a draconic man whose skin can withstand nearly any attack like universe 6's Magetta and can breathe fire.
“All considered, the least threatening universe.” he concludes. “Next, we have the Second Universe, lead by their strongest group, the 'Kamikaze Fireballs'. A trio of women who transform, ascending significantly in power. Strong enough to face your base Berserker Power, at their strongest. But they do have Yardratians in their universe as well.”
“Yardratians? Then we must keep a close eye on our formation, and ensure they do not slip past our formation undetected.” Cooler notes. “And with being stronger than our base Super Saiyans, they could present a problem to our team's weaker members.”
“Yes. Unlike the Ninth, the Second possesses those three powerful women. And a team of assassins, Harimira and Prum. Prum can absorb and reflect ki, as well as create small orbs he calls his Drones. Sending them out, using them to reflect the attacks from Harimira's arm cannon with devastating accuracy. His cannons are powerful enough to put holes in your base form, Karn, even reflected dozens of times over.”
“Interesting technique combination. This Harimira can hide behind Prum, firing his attacks indiscriminately while Prum aims. A dangerous duo of assassins.” King Cold notes, stroking his chin. “Very well done, Amazo. This information is already invaluable.”
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 03:46:55 No. 6291733 Report >>6291732 “And these are the weakest universes. Next would be Universe Four. Who are weaker than Two, but possess more... Complicated abilities.” Amazo continues. “Their strongest fighter when the battle begins will be Nink, a large green being standing as tall as your Ascended Berserker form, Karn. And just as powerful, while still being able to completely suppress his power, hiding from detection from mortal means.”
“Hold on, you said when the battle begins. Do they have a fighter who powers up like Moro?” Kars asks, suddenly very interested.
“Not by the same means, no. But one who grows stronger the longer while in combat. Ganos, a man with bird-like legs, possesses the rare ability of Pure Progress. The longer he fights, the stronger he gets. And his transformation doubles both his power and growth.” Amazo states plainly. Seems you'd underestimated just how powerful the other universes could be. “However, that is not the Fourth's main threats. Gamisalas possesses true invisibility and can suppress his power beyond most detection, and the near-microscopic Damom's power easily matches your own base strength. But being so small as to be almost completely invisible to the naked eye. And when those two combine with Shantsa and his Stand, Hall of Illusions, one would seemingly be fighting the spirits of warriors past, or perhaps their own nightmares while the invisible and small warriors land critical blows, making the illusions seem even more real.”
“An illusionist? That could be a problem.” King Cold notes, brow furrowing as he frowns. “Anyone else from the Fourth our fighters should be aware of?”
“Yes. Though they have their share of martial artists, none even match your base form's power. But the other threat is the Talisman User Dercori. Wielding magics of illusion and distraction, consisting of 76 attacks and 129 different illusions, Dercori's true form is revealed in darkness where she will transform. I would only recommend another magic-wielder face her in direct combat.”
“So, the more serious competitors will be the Third, Sixth, Tenth, and Eleventh Universes.” Cooler says, nodding to himself. “Which one of those four is the weakest?”
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 03:48:15 No. 6291734 Report >>6291733 “The Third. While they possess remarkably advanced technology, and there were places I could not reach due to threat of my own systems becoming compromised, I believe that their mechanical warriors do not pose a serious threat.” Amazo answers. “The sturdiest of their warriors is Biarra, a being with armor quite strong. Not quite as strong as Universe 6's Magetta or the Ninth's Chappil, but still quite durable. I would recommend ringout, as it possesses no method by which to recover from being tossed out. One of their strongest is the so-called Envoy of Justice, Katopesra, with his Henshin armor. Which posses Mode Change, allowing it to boost his power, speed, strength, or whatever stats he needs for any given situation. But once you reach the levels above a base Super Saiyan, his strongest modes cannot compete. But their potentially most dangerous warrior is Maji-Kayo. A semi-liquid warrior with a body like the one now belonging to Captain Ginyu, formerly Majin Buu's body. Best I can measure his power, he can compete against your Ascended Berserker form in terms of raw power.”
“If he's that strong and like Ginyu, we'll have to be careful.” you reply, nodding once. “So, let me assume the Sixth is next?”
“Correct. While you have faced many of their fighters, you have yet to face the Sixth's strongest warriors.” he tells you, and as he keeps talking a chill crawls up your spine. While you feel your Berserker Soul blaze in challenge. “Out in the far reaches of their universe, well beyond civilized space is an Earth not too unlike the one I was born on. Where several powerful beings reside. And one of them wields a power like your own, Karn. Angry, big, and green.”
-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 245 paused-
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 03:50:34 No. 6291736 Report >>6291734 And that's it for tonight, enjoy the info dump Amazo's giving you so far? What do you think of his intel on the lesser universes, do you think his data will give you the edge you need to come out on top? Or will his efforts be for naught, missing key information that won't be shown until the time of the tournament itself, affecting his ratings of each universe? And who do you think the final team composition will be, who will make the final cut? And are you ready for Amazo's analysis of both Jiren and Moro? All this and more when Saiyan Conqueror Quest continues in minutes over 12 hours at noon EST!
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>>6291734 aw crap we are gonna be up against big green indeed.
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>>6291734 Well hello handsome.
>>6291736 I'm sure his projections are gonna be thrown into the trash at some point, but this info is critical nonetheless. Knowledge is power and all that.
I'm curious what he has to say about Jiren beyond his obscene strength. His perception, reflexes, and ability to shift from minimum to maximum output near instantly sound like the sort of thing that might not be immediately apparent through long-range scans.
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For the sake of numbers, drop Raditz (leave him to guard New Salda) in favour of Chilli's mage choice.
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>>6291746 If we do end up keeping Raditz on guard duty, I wonder if we can have New Salda designate him as an Interregnum Champion. If he's going to function as the primary line of defense while we're away at the Tournament, I think it'd fitting on top of being pragmatic.
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>>6291746 I'll back this, would be for the best
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>>6291734 Aaawwwww SHIT
Super Green Bowl is a go.
Or throw him at Jiren. After a hot minute I'm sure he'll be stronger than anyone else at the tournament. He's kinda like Z-Broly in that way. His number only ever goes up. GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO
GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 04:19:04 No. 6291755 Report >>6291737 Perhaps. Or perhaps someone else will draw his ire first?
>>6291742 Still the best 3d Hulk design.
Some of his information is incomplete. But he'll have quite a lot of information. Especially about the Sixth's most dangerous competitor who I don't think I've seen anyone consider yet. As for Jiren, he can tell.
>>6291746 May be for the best
>>6291749 No, he's been away for far too long, the planet doesn't know him.
>>6291753 Possible. But with raw aggression and... Limited technique, Jiren'll easily be able to dispatch biggest green.
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>>6291755 >Especially about the Sixth's most dangerous competitor who I don't think I've seen anyone consider yet It's Doom, right? Or did a host of the Phoenix Force manage to survive long enough to be chosen?
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>>6291755 >Limited technique, Jiren'll easily be able to dispatch biggest green. Everyone thinks they can outfight the biggest green. Until they realize biggest green is the strongest there is.
I'd be more worried about the stage not surviving the Hulk chimping out after being swatted aside and pissed off for twenty or thirty minutes. Unless this is Professor Hulk or Worldbreaker Hulk. In which case I'd just be fucking worried in general lmao Anonymous
Hulk will chimp out and attack Zeno or the Grand Priest
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 05:20:08 No. 6291775 Report >>6291760 It could be Doom. After all, who could realistically stop him?
>>6291761 Doesn't have to overpower him, Just counter throw, send him flying off the edge. You could probably pull an episode 1 and ring him out even when he's stronger than you.
>spoiler Well, big and green does have a reputation for shattering the ring.
>>6291771 Not for long if he tries.
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>>6291775 >counter-throw hulk off the stage >he thunderclaps midair to hurl himself back onto the arena Anonymous
>>6291779 Actually....that's a good point, couldnt we do the same thing?
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 14:06:19 No. 6291881 Report >>6291779 >>6291868 Do you remember what Jiren did to UI Omen Goku? If Jiren wants you to stay gone, he can edge guard the hell outta you like this is smash bros. Either using his own shockwave punch barrage, or hit you with that owari da.
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>Not-so Jolly Green Giant is officially in the building He's coming.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 15:54:31 No. 6291920 Report >>6291734 “Big and green? You mean Kale, their Universe's Berserker?” you ask, Amazo shaking his head.
“No. This power isn't wielded by a Saiyan, but a human.” he says, and as he had been doing with each fighter he'd spoken about so far, showing you all a holographic projection from his eyes onto the table of what each fighter looks like. And this one looks like... A guy. Just a normal guy. But as you watch him grab his head, his entire body transforms. More than doubling in height and even more muscle mass, standing up and howling a roar in challenge. Your Berserker Soul blazes at the challenge, but you keep it controlled, not allowing yourself to transform in challenge against a recording. “The angrier this one they call The Hulk gets, the stronger it gets. Seemingly without limits. And that is not all, as as I was visiting, Champa was recruiting not only that monster. But a god.”
And as he says this the image changes, showing a man wearing a winged helm facing the monster. And not only matching the green man's power, but also wielding the power of lightning.
“The God of Thunder, the Asgardian Thor.” Amazo comments. His power rivals that of the Berserker God's own, if not outright surpasses it.”
“What?!” you, Meloka, everyone exclaim at once.
“Though your power would give you a unique edge over the god, in terms of raw power he is your better.” Amazo continues. “And that's before we get to their magic wielders. Such as the King of Latvaria, the one known as Doom. A genius who can combine both science and all manner of occult knowledge to wield power even I dare not confront needlessly.”
Which as a sentence is enough to chill the very room several degrees, leaving you all in stunned silence.
“I know not the extent of his abilities, as he was able to banish me from the Sixth Universe. I still do not know how he did so.” Amazo continues. “He may in fact be more skilled in magic than Moro.”
“Yet the Tenth is ranked higher?” you wonder aloud, wondering just how much more powerful Moro is now than when you first saw him in his cell. “Just how much stronger did Moro get?”
“Significantly. Aside from Moro, the Tenth Universe would rank bottom two in terms of powerful warriors. But that monster alters their situation significantly. His power dwarfs what both you, with your Berserker God and you with your Evolution of Blue with the Kaio-Ken multiplied tenfold can handle.” Amazo says. “In a direct contest of power, he could take either of you with raw strength alone. And quite possibly both of you together.”
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 15:55:33 No. 6291921 Report >>6291920 “Both? That's impossible.” King Vegeta says, shocked. “No one is that strong.”
“Incorrect. Moro is that strong. But he is not the strongest.” Amazo continues, leaving you wondering just how powerful this Jiren really is? “There is one far stronger than even he.”
“Then if Moro isn't the strongest, I take it this Eleventh Universe's Jiren is?” King Cold asks, brows furrowed.
“Correct. Jiren the Grey, of the Eleventh is the single-strongest being of any of the participating universes.” Amazo says, the image changing again from Moro to that of a race you've not seen in awhile. He is in fact a Grey, albeit the largest, most muscular Grey you've ever seen. And even though his image is only sitting there, meditating, you can almost feel his power. “But even without the Grey, the Eleventh would still be a top contender. Their Pride Troopers organization houses many of that universe's top powers, many of their strongest are used to working together on a near-daily basis to protect their universe. Their teamwork is only rivaled in this universe by the Ginyu Force.”
“So, not only do they have greater teamwork than our universe, but they also have a being strong enough to fight two of our top champions simultaneously?” King Cold asks him, to which Amazo nods. But you barely notice, unable to take your eyes away from the image of the meditating man in the image. That is the wall you have to overcome. Jiren the Grey. “So. What do you give our chances for winning this tournament, Amazo?”
“8%.” the golden machine man answers immediately. “I have detected hints of power from both Karn and Freeza that can match or even possibly surpass Jiren, as well as a strange confluence of power that occurred around Chaya that could match him as well. But as things stand right now, the Eleventh Universe will be the victor.”
Well? How do you react to this news?
>Ask Amazo what he'd recommend you all do to better your chances against Moro and Jiren >Thank him for his help, the information he gathered will be invaluable >Ask the android if he wishes to stay for the strategy meeting, his firsthand insight and analytical mind could help devise a winning strategy against these rising odds >Change of plans, you and Freeza, having the best chances of besting Jiren need to train. Abandon the previous schedule for the time chamber, devote an entire year inside to raising your strength and getting a handle on your Supreme Instinct >Other(write in)? Anonymous
>>6291921 >Ask Amazo what he'd recommend you all do to better your chances against Moro and Jiren He's seen quite a lot. No reason not to ask.
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>>6291921 >Ask the android if he wishes to stay for the strategy meeting, his firsthand insight and analytical mind could help devise a winning strategy against these rising odds Anonymous
>“The God of Thunder, the Asgardian Thor.” Amazo comments. His power rivals that of the Berserker God's own, if not outright surpasses it.” >“And that's before we get to their magic wielders. Such as the King of Latvaria, the one known as Doom. A genius who can combine both science and all manner of occult knowledge to wield power even I dare not confront needlessly.” >His power dwarfs what both you, with your Berserker God and you with your Evolution of Blue with the Kaio-Ken multiplied tenfold can handle.” Amazo says. “In a direct contest of power, he could take either of you with raw strength alone. And quite possibly both of you together.” >>6291921 >Ask the android if he wishes to stay for the strategy meeting, his firsthand insight and analytical mind could help devise a winning strategy against these rising odds What the FUCK bro
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>>6291921 >>Ask the android if he wishes to stay for the strategy meeting, his firsthand insight and analytical mind could help devise a winning strategy against these rising odds Anonymous
>>6291921 >Ask the android if he wishes to stay for the strategy meeting, his firsthand insight and analytical mind could help devise a winning strategy against these rising odds Okay that is bullshit, we get Thor, Hulk, and Doom? Champa isn't fucking around anymore, this is a problem. We need to notify Chili and Chaya that Raditz is out and we need both mages proto to back Chili up
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>>6291921 >>Ask the android if he wishes to stay for the strategy meeting, his firsthand insight and analytical mind could help devise a winning strategy against these rising odds Anonymous
>>6291921 >Ask Amazo what he'd recommend you all do to better your chances against Moro and Jiren GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO
GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 16:15:52 No. 6291939 Report >>6291928 >What the FUCK bro Did you think this tournament would just be free eats?
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>>6291939 partially
There were a lot of jobbers in canon, but it's pretty obvious by now that canon won't save us
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So can we get Amazos help and still do a full year in the time chamber?
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 16:31:56 No. 6291947 Report >>6291925 >>6291926 >>6291928 >>6291931 >>6291932 >>6291935 >>6291938 Ask the android if he wishes to stay for the strategy meeting, his firsthand insight and analytical mind could help devise a winning strategy against these rising odds wins it. Roll me a 3d100, no critfails on this one.
First DC: 40
Second DC: 65
Third DC: 90
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Rolled 11, 15, 87 = 113 (3d100) >>6291947 Things look a lot bleaker all of the sudden
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Rolled 43, 39, 87 = 169 (3d100) >>6291947 Anonymous
Rolled 65, 8, 96 = 169 (3d100) >>6291947 GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO
GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 16:47:38 No. 6291955 Report >>6291949 >>6291950 >>6291953 96/100, success! Succeeding on the final roll was most important, overrides the other DCs.
The three was to see how far you'd get . Writing.
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>>6291955 Thank god, because the middle roll is gonna be shit today from the looks of it.
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Thor, Hulk, DOOM, and Hit in U6. Cabba, Kale, and Caulifla are the closest in strength to them. Leaving 3 spots to be filled by returning members or new ones. That makes a team of 2 top tiers, 2 high tiers, 3 mid tiers and 3 unknowns. That is not ideal. And its one universe out of 10 others.
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>>6291970 8. There's only eight universes in the tournament.
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Gonna try and make a list of fighters based on what Amazo told us, gonna rank em by tiers from highest to lowest.>Supreme Tier: guaranteed to kick our shit in and would take all we have to take them down as a team, inevitable walls we'll have to face >High Tier: Can reliably fold us as much as we can fold then, could be a game ending problem if left unchecked >Mid Tier: Takes effort to put down, could be a problem if they start swarming or picking on our squishier teammates >Low Tier: Free Eats lmao That said, here's what I'm thinking so far>Supreme Tier: Jiren, Moro >High Tier: Hit, DOOM, Thor, Hulk, Toppo >Mid Tier: Cabba, Kale, Caulifla, Kefla, Magetta >Low Tier: Botamo, U9, U10 (excluding Moro) We are going to be in for the long haul.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 17:58:04 No. 6292007 Report >>6291921 “Thank you, Amazo, for everything you've contributed so far.” you say, giving the machine a proper Saiyan salute. “But, if I may ask more of you, would you mind lending us your aid just a while longer?”
“What would you ask of me, Karn?” Amazo replies, voice turning very level and neutral. Eyes narrowing slightly as he fully gazes at you.
“Do you wish to stay for the strategy meeting we're having?” you ask, gesturing to the table. “Your firsthand insight on the other universes, and your analytical mind could help us devise a winning strategy against these rising odds.”
As you ask the question, there is silence. For several seconds, he says nothing. But then his eyes flash softly once, the machine nodding.
“I can do this. I just spoke with Grand Priest, and while I cannot be directly involved in the tournament itself, I am not forbidden from aiding you all before the tournament begins in any ways I can.” he answers, surprising you. How the hell did he ask Grand Priest? Why does he need to ask permission? But these questions aside, you're simply thankful that he's able and willing to help. “I would be more than willing to help you all strategize to overcome these challenges.”
“Your help will be most appreciated.” King Cold tells Amazo. “We could use your knowledge and insights when crafting our strategy. Cooler, if you would explain our current plan to Amazo?”
“Or course.” Cooler replies, explaining how you plan to take up position near the central pillar, then once secured sending out half your team against Moro to take him down. Combining Ginyu's immunity to his energy drain, as well as Meloka's Forced Spirit Fission to divest him of the power he's already absorbed and Chilli to counter whatever other magic he tries to throw out.
“Not a terrible plan, given what you knew of your foes before going in. Yes, with those members, you should be able to easily best the rest of the Tenth, and face Moro.” he says, but before anyone else can interject continues. “However. Weakening your defenses to this point may be inadvisable. Should the Eleventh decide to push you, even without Jiren, with your team halved they may be able to best half of you. Toppo is powerful, and one of their female warriors, Cocotte's special dimensional magic could trap and remove any of you from the fight.”
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 17:59:05 No. 6292009 Report >>6292007 “Wait, dimensional magic will work within the Null Realm?” Kars asks, surprised. “That could lead to... Interesting complications in the ruleset.”
“Indeed. Which is why sending outside of the Null Realm will not work, while creating pocket dimensions will work.” Amazo clarifies. “Leaving the Null Realm will not be permitted, once the tournament begins. Stepping outside will result in disqualification of the offending fighter.”
“Well, that's -a- win condition for Chilli to beat Jiren, at least.” your wife says, Amazo turning to her. Eyes staring at her intensely, as if reading her mind.
“I see. Yes, that technique should function as you believe. Should you manage to move Jiren outside the universe.” Amazo clarifies. “However, moving him may be beyond your capabilities. I recommend a far more sustainable, achievable strategy to best Jiren.”
“Wait, you have a plan?” you ask, Amazo nodding once. “How?”
“Instant Transmission.” the android says plainly. “As it stands, no fighter here can best that monster in one-on-one, or even up to three-on-one of our strongest contestants. But, teleporting him directly into the stands would mean he touches out-of-bounds, and is therefore disqualified. However, I would save that for a last resort. If he's aware of your plan, it will not work. That said, our universe possesses two fighters have touched upon power enough to contest that monster. If you want the best advice I can offer, Karn, go to the Room of Spirit and Time. Train with Freeza as hard as you can for the year you have left in there. Put everything you've got into it, into mastering your Supreme Instinct. It may be our best chance for besting that monster.”
Well? How do you respond?
>Thank him for the advice and take it, head to Earth to swap Ginyu and focus on reaching that next level >Ask if that is a better idea than splitting the time everyone has in the chamber, to giving everyone participating four months to train before the tournament >Tell him you'll take it under advisement, but not going to rush to any decisions quite yet. Taking a whole day for you and Freeza would rob five others of their time to improve for the tournament >Ask if he knows any way to help you reach this level, to maintain the mindset needed to wield that power >Other(write in)? Anonymous
>>6292009 >Thank him for the advice and take it, head to Earth to swap Ginyu and focus on reaching that next level We got power a plenty everywhere else, if Amazo says this is how it has to be, this is how it has to be.
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>>6292009 >Thank him for the advice and take it, head to Earth to swap Ginyu and focus on reaching that next level Anonymous
>>6292009 >>Tell him you'll take it under advisement, but not going to rush to any decisions quite yet. Taking a whole day for you and Freeza would rob five others of their time to improve for the tournament i could argue that plastic man doesn't need the training, and since chaya already used her time that's 4 more hours for us
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>>6292009 >Tell him you'll take it under advisement, but not going to rush to any decisions quite yet. Taking a whole day for you and Freeza would rob five others of their time to improve for the tournament It could spell disaster if we somehow can't tap into that power, even with a full year. The morale of oir teammates is critical, and they'll need the time to strategize and refine their technique as well.
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>>6292009 >>Thank him for the advice and take it, head to Earth to swap Ginyu and focus on reaching that next level Frankly, while the other team members benefiting would be great, now that we know how strong Jiren is, we can't afford to hold back. 5X3 to 15 is still far less then a Hundred.
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>>6292011 >Thank him for the advice and take it, head to Earth to swap Ginyu and focus on reaching that next level >>6292011 >We got power a plenty everywhere else, if Amazo says this is how it has to be, this is how it has to be. This.
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>>6292020 Uhhh, you clicked the wrong link if you want to vote
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>>6292023 Thanks. I'm sorry. I'm fixing it, also I had a second thought. Maybe rushing into this decision right now is not best. It can be still done, just a little later.
>>6292009 >Tell him you'll take it under advisement, but not going to rush to any decisions quite yet. Taking a whole day for you and Freeza would rob five others of their time to improve for the tournament GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO
GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 18:31:16 No. 6292029 Report >>6292011 >>6292013 >>6292014 >>6292016 >>6292019 >>6292020 >>6292027 Well, since you all decided to tie this vote, leaving it open another fifteen minutes for a tiebreaker.
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Frankly Amazo and Mechikabura have both said the same thing. Supreme Instinct is our only chance of beating Jiren in a fight unless we somehow get lucky and TP him out. Our team members are strong, but frankly I dont think an extra 4 months of training will increase their power enough to compensate for their lack of team work. You need overwhelming power for that, and going a full Year in the room of spiirt of time to try and get us SI and Freeza Black are our best chances of beating Moro or Jiren.
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i'm just gonna say, we don't neeed to beat jiren. remember, when the clock runs out the team with the most members wins and if you wanna argue that'd be a boring script then i say karn getting his transformation midfight is more likely than getting it from training
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>>6292029 But GD my vote is different on the second post. I changed my mind. It's not tied.
I meant to change my vote from:
>>6292020 >Thank him for the advice and take it, head to Earth to swap Ginyu and focus on reaching that next level To:
>>6292027 >Tell him you'll take it under advisement, but not going to rush to any decisions quite yet. Taking a whole day for you and Freeza would rob five others of their time to improve for the tournament Sorry for not writing it in a clear way, I did not want to stall the quest.
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>>6292035 he's right actually, there's three for each vote with your swap included
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>>6291881 I for one will not be underestimating any of our mighty opponents. Except Dyspo. He's a goober. I will always assume they can each become a problem even for the bald one. DOOM, Thor and Hulk all have the potential to be completely bonkers busted and beat even Jiren. Not saying they will reach those points but they do exist. To say nothing of Moro skulking around and slurping up power off of the floor like some freak ass fly eating corpse juice. And shit, even Hit is there still. If he takes his shit even more seriously than in canon because Karn genuinely scared the stoic out of him and he trained like hell, who knows what he'll be capable of this time around.
>>6292009 >>Ask if he knows any way to help you reach this level, to maintain the mindset needed to wield that power Hey man, mind helping? Since every other guy who seems to know things likes to be vague and mysterious about telling us things? kek.
I wonder if we could teach Plastic Man IT and have him pretend to be the floor and use him as a ring-out trap on Jiren. Or any of the other problem fighters. Or, like, a handful of fighters if he can get big enough without being noticed. But keeping him small would make him harder to spot and stay under the radar.
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>>6292034 ....I think our ability to out last Jiren is basically 0. To out last him, you gotta stop him from beating your ass or just throwing you out of bounds, and thats not something anyone bare Karn and Freeza can manage at their peaks.
And I'd rather not risk not having SI in the tournament cause we flub the rolls at a critical time when GD has said before this tournament is the closest to a Bad End we're gunna get if we make a mistake.
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>>6292038 Honestly my eyes completely flew past the option to ask Amazo for advice on Mindset. I'd vote for that, but no way we can get a turn around for that at this point.
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>>6292042 The curse of being the last option above the write in spot. Practically invisible.
It probably wouldn't work anyway. I just had to ask to throw shade at Mechi. Wonder where he is right now. Anonymous
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>>6292009 >>6292029 >>6292037 Right. Changing, then. Sorry for all the complications that arose from my vote.
My final vote is this:
>We got power a plenty everywhere else, if Amazo says this is how it has to be, this is how it has to be. Anonymous
>>6292009 >>6292029 >>6292037 Right. Changing, then. Sorry for all the complications that arose from my vote.
My final vote is this:
>Thank him for the advice and take it, head to Earth to swap Ginyu and focus on reaching that next level Anonymous
While mastery is out of the question, I think we could atleast *summon* Supreme Instinct. If we can get that down pat in a year, then I'll change my vote
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>>6292049 >>6292038 >>6292051 Thank him for the advice and take it, head to Earth to swap Ginyu and focus on reaching that next level wins it. Writing.
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.......Did we just tie AGAIN
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>>6292051 Oh fuc, right, mobile IPs. I'm this guy
>>6292016 >>6292051 Anonymous
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>>6292055 ......No i'm just blind. I should probably go to bed....
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Some tournament this will be, huh? Think any of the U6 saiyans got Blue?
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>>6292066 Cabba is the only one I can see who has the discipline to obtain it this quickly. I'm sure Meloka beating his ass with it also left quite an impression on him as well.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 19:59:03 No. 6292097 Report >>6292009 “Thank you for the advice, Amazo. I won't let it go to waste.” you tell him, the android nodding to you before you turn to everyone else. “I shall join Lord Freeza in the time chamber immediately.”
“What, do you think we're not good enough?” Cooler asks, not you but the android as you raise your right hand to your forehead, reaching out with a thought to your eldest granddaughter, Marron.
“Hey, kiddo, you have a minute?” you <span class="mu-i">think</span> to her. “Need to head your way a moment.”
“Has it been eight hours already?” she asks, sounding shocked. “I thought Freeza and Ginyu were-?”
“Change of plans.” you reply, quickly telling her everything Amazo had discovered of the other universes. “If our best chance is Freeza and I achieving that next level, then we'd better put our all into it.”
“Right. Give me just a minute to get to the Lookout, I'll call back when I'm ready to go.” she replies, ending the mental link. Turning to Meloka, you both share a nod, and as one turn to leave the room behind.
“Leaving so soon?” Kars calls after you both, you turning to him as you keep walking.
“Amazo says we have one shot. And he's seen what the other universes can do. I'm going to Freeza now, he's almost been in there an hour.” you tell him. “If I go in there at the one hour mark and leave with him when his 24 hours is up, I'll have only two weeks left in the room. Better to save that time for an emergency, just in case. I'll leave the rest of the strategizing to you all, it's what you're best at. While training is what I'm good at.”
“Good luck, Karn. We're all counting on you.” King Vegeta says, you both sharing a nod before you exit the building. Sending a quick telepathic message to your children on-world, calling them all to gather. And so they do, everyone meeting you as you fly over to your home. Landing, you see both sets of twins, Caulifla, Okira, and Karn Jr.
“I'm heading back into the time chamber for another year. Wanted to see you all before I went.” you say, wrapping all of your kids in your arms one at a time. Tatsu and Tomi, the oldest, seem the most concerned at your declaration. But don't say anything, clearly not wanting to worry their younger siblings.
“Go get 'em dad! Karn Jr declares as you set him down, raising his fist towards you. “You can do it!”
“Heh. Yeah, I will.” you reply, gently rapping your fist against his. And as you pull back, Marron's mind reconnects with your own. So you step back, raising your right hand to your forehead again and focus on her ki. Teleporting yourself and Meloka away, leaving New Salda behind and returning back to Marron's adoptive Earth.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 20:00:09 No. 6292099 Report >>6292097 You and your wife appear beside Marron atop the Lookout. Standing roughly in the middle, the former demon god Mr. Popo standing between her and the door.
“Oh, Karn, Meloka, what a surprise.” Mr. Popo says, smiling at your arrival. “You're here early.”
“There's been a change of plans. I'm swapping Ginyu out.” you tell him. “Freeza and I are going to spend his whole year in there, pushing ourselves to the limits. According to Amazo, me getting my Supreme Instinct is our best chance against Jiren.”
“I see. Well then, best of luck to you, Karn. Follow me.” he says, leading you all inside. Quickly reaching the door, and pulling it open. Only for Freeza and Ginyu to be seated at the table, about to eat.
“What are y-Karn?” Freeza asks, seeing you behind Mr. Popo. “What's going on?”
“Change of plans. Ginyu, swap out. Freeza and I need the room.”
“Things are that dire? Hmmm, very well.” he says, taking his plate of food and rising from the table, waving back over his shoulder. “Good luck, Lord Freeza!”
“Karn, what's going on?” he asks as you step past Ginyu, the door closing behind you. “What happened?”
And so you give him the rundown on Amazo exploring the other universes, his estimations on each of their powers and how outmatched you all already are by not only Moro, but Jiren. And when you tell him what Amazo told you, about the two of you achieving your new powers being the best hope the Seventh Universe has, his own eyes narrow.
“And so you wish to take the entire year then?” he asks, you nodding. Freeza takes a deep breath, then slowly sighs out, as if refocusing his mind. “Very well then, I concur. If both yourself and Meloka aren't strong enough to face Moro together, let alone Jiren, then you and I must become strong. Stronger than ever.”
“With you, we can both cut loose.” you tell him, Freeza nodding then reaching towards one of the beds. Using his telekinesis, pulling over that same Divine Blessing from your last time in here. “Is that-?”
“Yes. Your daughter brought it, before Ginyu and I entered.” he says, setting the bottle in the center of the table before going back to eating. “So we can truly push ourselves to our limits.”
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 20:01:13 No. 6292106 Report >>6292099 “Oh yeah, that'll certainly help. I'll get warmed up while you finish eating.” you reply, nodding to him. Walking past him and out into the void beyond, your steps echoing out into oblivion. Looking into the emptiness beyond, then clenching your fists. Powering up, swinging your fists experimentally into the white void. Punching and kicking, loosening yourself up before you both start getting into the more serious training. After that you start a light workout, working up a sweat before Freeza joins you, stepping out into the void with you.
“So, <span class="mu-i">General</span>.” he says, teasingly using your title. “What is your plan?”
“My plan?” you ask him, Freeza chuckling. “What do you mean?”
“I presume that, since you've strong-armed your way inside, you have a plan for how you wish to train.” he replies to you. “How you seek to achieve this next level of power?”
Well? What is your plan?
>Sparring at full power, as often as possible. Pushing each other to your limits every single day, and eventually beyond >Train following the same schedule you'd practiced with Chaya the year previous in here. Raising your base power may be necessary to hold that advanced form longer, and you'll need every advantage you can get >Ask Freeza what he thinks, how would he best achieve his next level of power and focus on pushing him. You saw great success last time pushing Chaya's limits, your own body keeping up with her rate of growth >Push your Berserker Soul to its limits, train to maintain your Berserker God power indefinitely to hopefully make ascending beyond far easier >Other(write in)? Anonymous
>>6292106 >Push your Berserker Soul to its limits, train to maintain your Berserker God power indefinitely to hopefully make ascending beyond far easier We can't afford to do anything but go full blast now if we want to break through our current limitations.
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Okay guys this is it. This is the Final Chance we have before it all kicks off. We know how Supreme Instinct Functions *more or less*. Its thought based, need based, its letting go of everything and fighting in nothing but the present moment. Which of the options did GD give us, or how do we word a write in, to get as close to that as possible?
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>>6292122 Just Potara fuse with Frieza and make Kareza, the ultimate warrior. Duh. Gold Berserker, bro.
Berserk Black To hell with all this instinct shenanigans. Never liked that hype farming form in canon anyway.
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>>6292122 Here's an excerpt from Episode 240 from Mechikabura on Supreme Instinct;
>"As your Broly's power exploded, bursting forth to consume you, it enveloped you. Coursing through your body, crashing into your own energy you were already pushing to your limits. Which shattered your limits, catapulting you to those far-greater heights you've only briefly glimpsed before. Congratulations. You're now the first being in this new reality, the second ever even I've seen to have reached this level of power. Most impressive, well done Karn.” he says, grinning smugly. “Most impressive indeed. I hadn't foreseen you breaking through this limit until that upcoming gathering the Zen-Oh will throw in your timeline shortly. His little 'Tournament of Power', as it's called, where you'll face your greatest challenge yet.” Beyond that, there's also the matter of the necessary mindset that you mentioned earlier.
This might sound simplistic, but I think we need to keep letting it all hang out, going at 100% and just focusing on the fight and nothing else. With that in mind...
>>6292112 >>6292106 >Sparring at full power, as often as possible. Pushing each other to your limits every single day, and eventually beyond I am changing to this. We need to be fighting as much as we can at maximum output as far as I can tell.
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For further thoughts. Full Power 24/7 is a not great option I think. We can trust Towas science and thats gunna burn us out. Its letting fear push us beyond whats optimal. Training like we did with Chaya is a solid option. We know we progressed some with SI last time we followed that option but is that gunna be enough since we're splitting our Transformation Time with our Base PL Training Time. Freeza is an option. Forcing Freeza to get as strong as possible, giving a target Karn has to surpase, one he doesn't have to worry destroying his world if he loses, similiar to what happened when he had to SI Vs Apex Broly. Honestly kinda leaning this option after writing it up. Further mastery of the Berserker Soul might be critical however. We never fully tapped into the SI before we got such a constant handle on its power, and we know SI is itself tied into the Beserker Soul as its own unique power. Trying for absolluste mastery over it could be the key. Write ins I dont know but so far I think Berserker Soul Focus or Helping Freeza might be our best options.
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>>6292106 >Push your Berserker Soul to its limits, train to maintain your Berserker God power indefinitely to hopefully make ascending beyond far easier From what I recall, it was easiest to tap into it when our goals were aligned with the Beserker Soul. Getting a grip on it and understanding it will be crucial for falling into a state where we must trust those instincts.
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>>6292106 >>Ask Freeza what he thinks, how would he best achieve his next level of power and focus on pushing him. You saw great success last time pushing Chaya's limits, your own body keeping up with her rate of growth we got a pretty good idea on what's needed for SI, being in perfectly synchronized with the Berserker Soul. I think if Freeza reaches Black we might be able to replicate what happened with Broly...
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Going back and looking at Chayas option
Months pass as the two of you, in complete isolation and cut off from the outside universe focus solely on improving yourselves. Pushing your bodies to their limits and beyond, you also notice something else. As you and Chaya continue to fight, you begin to feel the Berserker Soul's anger start to abate. Each time you transform up into your Berserker God form, each time your daughter transforms, the rage of the Berserker Soul is lessened. You get the feeling that, against a different being, a different deity, its rage will still come back. But as it has grown more and more adjusted to Chaya's divine powers, its rage at her is abated.
Which you especially begin to take notice of when the two of you spar at full power, able to give one hundred percent without the soul's blinding rage trying to overwhelm you, your mind and the Berserker Soul itself working together for a singular purpose. United in your goals, as you and Chaya spar you begin to lose yourself in the flow of the fights with her, fighting without holding back. Leaving all thoughts of the Tuffle and Grand Zen-Oh's upcoming tournament behind, your entire mind and body is fully focused on the fight.
The key here isn't the fight, not exactly, its The Rage. Its ALWAYS the rage. Its mentioned right there. The Berserker Souls familiarity with Chayas Divine Power slowly pacified it towards HER, allowing Karn and It to synch up without one trying to overthrow the other.
It also mentions how that Rage will come back against other divinites, and even ignoring Hulk, which drew a response from the Berserker Soul even from a Projection, we're going to be surrounded by the most divine gods in all the omniverse.
I think our only option for real progress is fully synching up with the Berserker Soul. Thats probably how The Other Karn managed it. After his entire family died, the only thing him and the Soul wanted was to kill Mechikabura. That gave them the shared focus to unlock that power.
Now we need to do the same.
>>6292106 >>Push your Berserker Soul to its limits, train to maintain your Berserker God power indefinitely to hopefully make ascending beyond far easier
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>>6292106 >Push your Berserker Soul to its limits, train to maintain your Berserker God power indefinitely to hopefully make ascending beyond far easier Anonymous
>>6292106 >Push your Berserker Soul to its limits, train to maintain your Berserker God power indefinitely to hopefully make ascending beyond far easier Anonymous
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Does anyone else have a different take/argument while theres still time?
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 20:41:35 No. 6292160 Report >>6292112 >>6292136 >>6292140 >>6292142 >>6292144 >>6292147 >>6292148 Push your Berserker Soul to its limits, train to maintain your Berserker God power indefinitely to hopefully make ascending beyond far easier wins it. You managed to make it to several days maintaining before, let's see how you do now. Roll me a 4d100.
First DC: 45
Second DC: 60
Third DC: 95(No critfail)
Fourth DC: 75
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Rolled 24, 31, 10, 49 = 114 (4d100) >>6292160 Anonymous
Rolled 24, 60, 11, 36 = 131 (4d100) >>6292160 GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO
GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 20:43:08 No. 6292166 Report Quoted By:
Also this one's best of FOUR, due to Berserker God form.
Anonymous
Rolled 82, 82, 63, 28 = 255 (4d100) >>6292160 Dear RNG Jesus, hallow'd be thy name, bless these dice with good fortune. Amen.
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Rolled 73, 61, 65, 66 = 265 (4d100) >>6292160 Anonymous
..........We missed half the DC. FUCK. GD will there be follow up training rolls llike there was for our time with Chaya next week? And what do you think of the option we picked?
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 20:51:52 No. 6292174 Report >>6292161 >>6292164 >>6292169 >>6292171 82/100, 82/100, 65/100, 66/100. Double success and double failure, looks like <span class="mu-i">you</span> make significant progress. Writing.
Anonymous
On the one hand, I'm glad we've mad solid progress, but on the other hand, I didn't think we'd be rolling for Freeza too, and thats an OOF. I hope his DCs are lower if we get a second chance to roll for him.
Anonymous
>>6292174 Ohhh, so Freeza had the fuck huge dcs.
Anonymous
>>6292184 Well you did vote to pick the "Me! first" options and not the "Frieza first" option so it's only logical.
Anonymous
>>6292190 True, but it seems like a harder challenge getting Freeza (Forma de Negro) than Ultra Greenstinct. Speaking of which, if Towa still had Mira he could copy that and be unstoppable. I remember the SKoT getting anysy about Karn obtaining UI for a similar reason.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 22:22:12 No. 6292233 Report >>6292106 “How? That's easy.” you smirk, clenching your fists and ascending in a flash of emerald aura. Ascending straight up into your Berserker God form, looking down at him with a smirk. “First we push ourselves to the limits to master our current powers. To the point we can even eat and sleep in these forms, pushing these powers to their limits.”
“Oh? Well then, if that's how you seek to improve our odds-” he says, flashing up into his Golden form. “-then let's see how this strategy of yours works out.”
“Bring it on!” you reply, both of you leaping back from one another. Landing a few dozen yards away from each other, taking your fighting stances. Your emerald aura, crackling with emerald lightning blazes up as Freeza's golden aura surges as well. The two of you stare one another down, then on an unspoken cue you both kick off the ground, surging forward. “HRRRRAAAAAA!!”
“SHYAAAAAA!!” he bellows, you both launching yourselves at one another. Right fists slamming together, the shock wave blasting out into the void. Followed by another and another as you and the former emperor begin to spar. Freeza taunting you as he knocks you back with his tail. “Is that all you've got?”
“Tch! I'm just getting started!” you reply, flipping back and landing on your feet, kicking back off towards him. Dashing in with a flying kick which Freeza dodges. You flip, landing on your feet and turning with a heavy right. Which he matches with his own left, your strikes stopping one another's blows once more. He follows up with a right turning kick aimed at your head, which you block with your left forearm before unleashing everything you've got. “HRRRAAAAAAA!!”
The two of you spar to exhaustion, neither of you relenting until your own body gives out, collapsing as Freeza fires a right. Which misses you as you fall, the former emperor, not hitting anything, trips and falls atop you. Leaving you both panting and gasping in exhaustion.
cont
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 22:23:50 No. 6292235 Report >>6292233 “You've. Gotten stronger.” you pant out, as despite your exhaustion you've not reverted yet. However, Freeza's already lost his Golden sheen, reverted back to his usual form in his exhaustion. Having lost his form the moment the tension of the fight passed.
“Of course. I won't. Fall. So easily.” he replies through gasping breaths. “I am. Lord. Freeza. God of. Destruction. In training. And I. Won't. Lose!”
“Oh yeah?” you reply, planting your hands on the ground, grunting as you push yourself back up to your feet once more. Freeza rolling off you as you stand, looking up at you in shock as you rise. Swaying a bit on your feet, meeting Freeza's shocked gaze as he sees you standing. “Then let's go again, round two!”
“Wh-What?!” he exclaims, eyes wide as you take a deep breath in.
“Let's go again.” you tell him, his jaw dropping as you take your fighting stance once more. “I told you; we're pushing ourselves to the limits. And beyond.”
“Tch! I won't quit!” he replies, flashing back up into his Golden form as he pushes himself up as well, retaking his stance. “I am Lord Freeza! Son of King Cold and apprentice Destroyer of this Universe! And I won't submit!”
The two of you clash again, giving it everything you've got. With the future of your universe on the line, you can't afford to go slow. Pushing each other to the limit, sparring over and over and over again. Losing all sense of time, even your worries about the upcoming tournament fading as your exhausted mind lets go of everything but the fight. Your worries, fears, even your exhaustion fades as your awareness narrows down to the fight with Freeza in the world of nothingness. Until you feel that spark in your soul ignite once more.
-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 245 paused-
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 22:25:09 No. 6292237 Report >>6292235 And that's it for this weekend, everyone enjoy the ride? Ready to start really pushing yourself to the limits? Curious how this particular training regimen will work with Freeza, if this will also push him closer to unlocking his Black form? And while you're away once more, will your universe survive another day without you present? Or will enemies from beyond your universe once more try and capitalize on your absence? All this and more when Saiyan Conqueror Quest continues!
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>>6292173 >>6292237 Yeah I wanted to ask about this.
I think they'll last. The Zamasu's dont have the numbers for another run on things, and more to the point, I doubt the Grand Priest will allow Zeno's show to be messed with in anyway shape or form.
Also I uh.........saw earlier. Amazo going through the other universes and seeing the various angels/gods of destruction, and even the Grand Priest pretty uh........Pretty skyrocketed up the divine power pole huh.
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>>6292237 If I didn't think our people could get by without us for a day, I wouldn't have voted to step back into the HTC.
As for Frieza...well, I hope this at least shows him that Ultra Instinct may not be the best path forward for him for the moment.
Anonymous
I'm trying to remember if our attempts at working in Force precognition into our regular fighting (we were doing a fair bit of that during our training with Cooler and later with Chaya in the chamber, weren't we?) was helpful with tapping into Supreme Instinct, or whether thinking too much stopped us from tapping into the right mindset.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 22:43:31 No. 6292251 Report >>6292136 From what you know, 'losing' yourself in combat is how you've achieved flashes or as Mechikabura said glimpses of this form in the past. But it was only in the clash with Apex Berserker Broly, getting pushed beyond your limits that you achieved it for longer than a couple seconds.
>>6292137 There's more than one way to achieve it. But some paths are certainly easier than others.
>>6292140 >it was easiest to tap into it when our goals were aligned with the Beserker Soul Correct. Fully merging yourself with the Berserker Soul does allow an easier time.
>>6292142 Could certainly be one approach. Having a goal always motivates Karn to push higher.
>>6292144 >The key here isn't the fight, not exactly, its The Rage. Its ALWAYS the rage. Its mentioned right there. The Berserker Souls familiarity with Chayas Divine Power slowly pacified it towards HER, allowing Karn and It to synch up without one trying to overthrow the other. A very poignant observation. And in this place, against Freeza, with no deities present, there isn't that same pull, the same rage from the Berserker Soul.
>>6292173 >will there be follow-up...? Of course. This isn't the end all be all of training. This is only the beginning.
As for what I think, well, we'll see how it plays out.
>>6292178 Rolling for how effectively you help Freeza reach his form in this day one encounter.
>>6292238 Hopefully they don't. And he didn't interfere when the 9th sent assassins after Freeza in canon. Right now he's busy making the stage.
Amazo's not a being you can FIGHT. He's more akin to an eldritch abomination than a man now.
>>6292243 We'll see what he thinks.
>>6292246 Something to explore more in-depth, perhaps. But for day one, it was only pushing one another to the limits, to see if that breaks you through the barriers. Now, for Karn, we know reaching the limits can push him over. We've yet to see if the same's true for Freeza.
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>>6292251 >Amazo's not a being you can FIGHT. He's more akin to an eldritch abomination than a man now. Thanks for the answers to the previous comments.
How did Amazo and the Grand Priests first interaction go? Even for The Grand Priest I imagine something like Amazo is rare in the omniversal history.
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>>6292237 Hopefully if we beat Frieza hard enough the CTE will make him do something funky to grow more powerful to avoid even more brain damage out of necessity. He has the misfortune of training with a Saiyan. And them monkeys really do be having exponential growth. Unfair contest there.
Anonymous
I had a thought. Canonically, Frieza almost never trained until he was resurrected the first time, and then somehow managed to attain his Golden transformation and got toe-to-toe with post-BoG Goku and Vegeta after 4 months of "serious training" with only a low-ranking soldier beside him to act as a punching bag. I know we all get on that unprecedented growth as an example of obvious Author's Fiat, but I think there might be more too it in regards to how it's been interpreted in this Quest. Given that OUR Frieza's gains have been much more gradual despite him training more seriously for longer, I think training like we do might be INCREDIBLY sub-optimal for Frieza. The difference in growth in-quest vs canon might be indicative of Frieza's body responding better to longer periods of low-intensity exercise followed by extended rest periods (something he'd probably be naturally inclined to do if it weren't for Karn rubbing off on him over the years). Hell, that might be why doing chores all day under Whis has given him some of the best gains of his life up to this point. TL;DR: Frieza might be better off training casually rather than religiously like we do.
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>>6292278 You know, you may be on to something here. It might be more beneficial for someone of Freeza's physiology to do less high intensity physical workouts and more casual honing of the body and spirit. And what people tend to forget is that Freeza wasn't sitting idle in hell; he's been doing a lot of meditation training. Additional question: Has Freeza ever been to Yardrat and trained under Elder Pybara? Because I think Spirit Training could help him the most. Damn shame we have literally no time for it.
Anonymous
>>6292278 Honestly this situation sounds like a job for Doctor Towa and her Fitness Degree. Granted, no time right now, but later if we survive and Weiss doesn't answer.
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>>6292291 Freeza is probably high on her list of beings to properly analyze. I doubt there are that many Freeza out in the universe willing to train, much less have a fitness instructor experiment and take notes on how his body works.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 17 Aug 2025 23:48:51 No. 6292301 Report >>6292253 Of course. And it was certainly an encounter.
>>6292255 He gets stronger even beating on someone who can barely resist. Training with you will expidite his growth.
>>6292278 >I think training like we do might be INCREDIBLY sub-optimal for Frieza. Yes.
>Hell, that might be why doing chores all day under Whis has given him some of the best gains of his life up to this point. Half right. Freeza doesn't possess any zenkai ability. So battling to exhaustion like you do doesn't strengthen him the same way.
>>6292288 That was the key to canon Freeza. His mental training was exceptional.
>>6292291 That took over a decade of daily work. But perhaps another Towa'd have that info?
Anonymous
While I'm still panicking about the new stacked roster, I can't help but pity U10. I can imagine that having Zamasu in charge and him willfully feeding a literal Devourer of Worlds made recruitment extremely unpleasant.
Anonymous
>>6292302 fucking cheater, he's not even from their universe!
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>>6292304 The rules never said anything about recruiting people from different universes. Still though, I can't help but imagine having Mr. Total Ningen Death plucking you from your home planet and having his pet goat eat it shortly afterwards. In those kind of shoes, what's the point of fighting? You'll die anyway.
Anonymous
>>6292301 >Half right. Freeza doesn't possess any zenkai ability. So battling to exhaustion like you do doesn't strengthen him the same way Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...right. Maybe we could alternate hard and light sparring and throw in some form (katas, not transformations) training as a method of active recovery. Meditation and image training might be advisable as well.
Anonymous
>>6292310 >tfw yoga and tai chi really is frieza's optimal growth format Anonymous
>>6292325 More like Frieza physically cannot keep up with Karn's daily 8 hour arm workouts.
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>>6292327 Hey it's not our fault Saiyan biology is made of 80% steroids. kek
Anonymous
>>6292301 >Half right. Freeza doesn't possess any zenkai ability. So battling to exhaustion like you do doesn't strengthen him the same way. On the bright side we focused on Berserker Soul Mastery, rather just raw beating the shit out of each other.
If I had to guess for Freeza benefits the best to worst options were
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Mon 18 Aug 2025 01:30:40 No. 6292357 Report >>6292302 They have no idea what's going on. But they let live the planets they're recruiting from. Moro understands intellectually that having people to fight for will increase their willingness to fight for him, though he doesn't have such weakness himself.
>>6292310 Freeza's race isn't a WARRIOR race. But perhaps if you follow Towa's schedule with the same breaks, even while maintaining your form 100% of the time...
>>6292332 Yes. Going intense is a good way to set the pace. But if you choose Towa's regimen to follow, could work well for you both. Or perhaps he already knows from his time with Whis optimal training for himself?
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>>6292357 Tangentially related to Frieza's gains, but what's Tagoma even doing in this timeline? That dude's got potential, so I'd hate to see him pissing it away doing fuck-all during this tentative peace.
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I cannot believe you're still going, and at the TOP. Awesome!
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>>6292367 Oh man, you had me going for a second there.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Mon 18 Aug 2025 02:28:49 No. 6292379 Report Quoted By:
>>6292366 A good question. But he's only probably as strong as canon Ginyu right now. Still serving as a certain someone's number one guy.
>>6292367 It's been a long road. But we made it to quite the peak.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:pn/gh740 Mon 18 Aug 2025 17:51:29 No. 6292641 Report Also, going to try and have Koruza's patreon epilogue written this week. Every time a Koruza one wins the vote it's cursed, I swear.
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>>6292370 No, this is the real Som, just after the site went down for that bit the tripcode changed for some reason.
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>>6292649 Alright, you're off the hook...for now.
Anonymous
>>6292649 Crazy that I still remember the start of your saiyan cyoa from way back in 2014, now over 10+ years ago. It was kind of a shitshow at times, but without it we might not even be here, so thanks som.
Anonymous
>>6292641 It sounds like his NEETdom is infectious. But take your time, GD. Can't force it out like a tube of toothpaste.
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>>6292662 No sweat, I'm just glad there's writers like Granddragon here who can properly run a quest and keep it going for so long.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:pn/gh740 Mon 18 Aug 2025 22:31:33 No. 6292728 Report >>6292695 >NEETdom He's actually on a mission related to the call Towa got. In regards to a certain
Oculus .
>>6292649 Didn't even realize was you, I don't check names/trips all that often.
>>6292702 >me >proper Lol. Lmao, even. But do appreciate it. While the /tg/ split had its downsides, I couldn't have run in the high speed board of /tg/ back in the day like the real ogs.
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>>6292728 >Lol. Lmao, even. Don't sell yourself short there GD. You've been doing a good job of running on a consistent schedule, keeping sessions running smoothly, and engendering discussion between those sessions.
All that and you've been doing it for the better part of a decade without veering off to do another quest, taking an extended hiatus, or making a Discord server for some reason.
Anonymous
>>6292745 I stand by that every redditor faggot that pushed for discords in quests were feds trying to kill stories.
Anonymous
>>6292764 Twenty bucks says it was actually a smart glowie who had money in discord and needed something to also justify his being online in chatrooms all the time at work. Double dipping.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Wed 20 Aug 2025 00:25:24 No. 6293209 Report >>6292745 I'm decent, but appreciate it. If the bar for proper is showing up, then I'll take it. Because I love this quest and you guys. And even if one day SCQ ends, I hope you'd at least sample the quest I do next. For my next one, I'm considering a more fantasy setting. I really enjoy writing magic and get so few chances to.
>>6292764 Quite possibly. Or just reddit mods looking for more minors.
>>6292849 >smart >glowie Best I can do is clever. Can't believe in a fed that's smart, they wouldn't work for the govt if they werez
Anonymous
>>6293209 >Chilli level magic stuff next campaign New side character confirmed.
Anonymous
>>6293209 >Can't believe in a fed that's smart, they wouldn't work for the govt if they werez Hey now smart doesn't mean decent. Plenty of psycho and sociopaths thrive in goobermint jobs. There's always at least a few who aren't retards. Ironically, they are the ones who are usually not normal in the head.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:1qGSRhOU Wed 20 Aug 2025 18:49:36 No. 6293610 Report >>6293214 Not for SCQ. But I have a setting coming together for another quest.
>>6293227 The smart ones know they can make a shitload more money private sector. You have to either be really dumb or malicious to stay in govt.
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>>6293610 >The smart ones know they can make a shitload more money private sector. >laughs in insider trading with no consequences GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO
GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Thu 21 Aug 2025 02:03:46 No. 6293783 Report <span class="mu-s">QM UPDATE</span>
Not going to have an intermission this week, still trying to catch up with the patreon. Have to finish July's story this week with Demon God Koruza. Which, while pic absolutely related isn't going to be in the art of this piece, he's definitely the main character of that story. The art will be of his opponent, who Towa got that call about before.
>>6293656 Fair enough.
Anonymous
>>6293783 >pic related If there was ever any doubt he was Karn's son, I'm sure it's been long since put to rest. What's the story behind that pendant anyways?
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Thu 21 Aug 2025 02:22:53 No. 6293794 Report >>6293789 Don't you recognize the gem for what it is? Karn had one as well, long ago, before it was morphed and changed during the Battle of Sanghelios...
Anonymous
>>6293794 Oh, a bloodstone! I wonder if he's managed to figure out more about his than we did ours.
On that note, how much energy is actually stored in our Soulstone now? Has The Arbiter thought to secure its twin crater on Sanghelios yet?
Anonymous
>>6293783 I remember when Koruza was just about a little kid and had trouble with his stand. Now look at him inheriting his father's handsome jawline. Who's the sorry bastard that has to fight him?
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:dVlIZQgl Thu 21 Aug 2025 16:22:03 No. 6294026 Report >>6293800 He knew more about it than you learned before he got one.
>how much energy is actually stored in our Soulstone now? Yes. Perhaps you'll find out just how much in the tournament.
The crater's a sacred sight. Remember, an Arbiter died there defending Sanghelios.
>>6294005 That patreon story will hopefully be out this week. Usual artist couldn't do it, had to shop around and get one who's not done quest work for us before. But I'm confident it'll be killer.
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>>6294026 So Shula got his hands on the Tertian Oculus somehow? I'm sure Koruza will still have the edge in terms of power, right? GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO
GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:dVlIZQgl Thu 21 Aug 2025 21:14:27 No. 6294168 Report >>6294102 >spoiler In a world with no Goku, who would have stopped him?
Anonymous
>>6294168 TIENSHINHAN THE STRONGEST HUMAN
KRILLIN DOESN"T COUNT BECAUSE HE HAS NO NOSE
RAAAAAHHHHHH
Anonymous
>>6291704 >Our inevitable fray with the Pride Troopers will be more heated than in canon if nothing else. Because unlike Goku, we actually ARE villains by Toppo's definition. You are right when Pride Troopers look at Team Universe 7 they see a villain squad. To them each team member is probably:
> Chaya - Evil Goddess of Victory that wants a tournament for her amusement that will lead to destruction of entire universes. >Karn, Meloka - Bloodthirsty planet conquerors responsible for countless deaths. >Chilli – Chaos magic using wizard mysteriously linked to Death itself. >Cooler – Evil emperor. >Freeza – Tyrant, former emperor, soon to be a Destroyer God. >Ginyu – Monster. >Plastic Man – He probably does not seem evil to them. Caulifa is the one person they can’t say a bad word about. I mean she is so nice. Like a beacon of hope. I think she is a the kind of person they would want to invite to join Pride Troopers.
She does not seek the spotlight like Chaya does. However during the tournament Caulifa will inevitably be noticed by entire universe and she is a Goddess. I think the unforeseen consequence may be that some people will want to worship the Darkmoon Goddess and the faith others have in her will grow.
>>6291589 >His last sentence he says pointedly, meeting Meloka's eyes with a serious gaze. As if he can judge her strength, despite her and Chaya both having divine power. Cool. I wonder what allows him to sense their power.
>>6291591 >As so deliberations continue for several more minutes, until the final roster is decided. Your team will consist of Chaya, Plastic Man, Caulifla, and Freeza, while Ginyu will have Cooler, Chilli, Meloka, and Raditz. I just want to say that teamwork that were shown during the planning for the tournament was great. I’m curious who will it be in the end. Raditz or Magic user from Chilli.
>>6291666 >“And at counting.” Cooler throws in, you turning to him curiously. Oops.
>>6291732 >“Next, we have the Second Universe, lead by their strongest group, the 'Kamikaze Fireballs'. A trio of women who transform, ascending significantly in power. Universe’s 7 magical girl Caulifa is better than 'Kamikaze Fireballs'.
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>>6291920 >“And that's before we get to their magic wielders. Such as the King of Latvaria, the one known as Doom. A genius who can combine both science and all manner of occult knowledge to wield power even I dare not confront needlessly.” This guy sounds scary. I guess you could compare it to Chilli being in enemy team.
>“I know not the extent of his abilities, as he was able to banish me from the Sixth Universe. I still do not know how he did so.” Amazo continues. Impressive for sure.
>His power dwarfs what both you, with your Berserker God and you with your Evolution of Blue with the Kaio-Ken multiplied tenfold can handle.” They must have fed Moro with so many planets.
>>6291921 >“I have detected hints of power from both Karn and Freeza that can match or even possibly surpass Jiren, as well as a strange confluence of power that occurred around Chaya that could match him as well. But as things stand right now, the Eleventh Universe will be the victor.” Maybe Chaya can reach Ultra Instinct
>>6292237 >And that's it for this weekend, everyone enjoy the ride? It’s great.
> Ready to start really pushing yourself to the limits? Sure
>Curious how this particular training regimen will work with Freeza, if this will also push him closer to unlocking his Black form? Yes.
>And while you're away once more, will your universe survive another day without you present? They will. Everyone is on alert.
>Or will enemies from beyond your universe once more try and capitalize on your absence? They will surely try.
>>6292357 >Moro understands intellectually that having people to fight for will increase their willingness to fight for him, though he doesn't have such weakness himself. He ate his own home world. Probably.
>>6293783 > Do you have what it takes.png Awesome art.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Fri 22 Aug 2025 03:51:06 No. 6294365 Report Quoted By:
>>6294172 Yeah but at that point in the story he was an evil asshole studying far away in the Crane School. Not helping random villages with no money.
>>6294181 They don't KNOW what Universe 7 has done. But maybe if Karn or Meloka or Freeza let slip about the Greys being wiped out, they may upset someone.
>Caulifla She's the Smiling Angel for a reason.
>I wonder what allows him to sense their power That's the neat part: he doesn't. He CAN'T sense divine ki. He's just that intuitive.
Teamwork is good. But that is mostly from the strategists, not the actual combatants.
>“And at counting.” Cooler throws in, you turning to him curiously. >Oops. Now you see why that was set up the way it was. All for that joke. If someone caught it before Chaya went to try recruiting Raditz, it would have been avoided. But Karn wasn't counting. >>6294184 Doom is a top-tier threat. Perhaps even greater than Moro. He would immediately recognize the threat the Devourer of Worlds presents, after all.
Yes. The Tenth's rating is now below the Seventh's own. If the whole scale isn't bullshit, which, you never know. It could be :^)
Glad you enjoyed, and the training arc's going to be fun.
That is from the version without his aura. I mean that as in ki aura, not the modern term. And yes it is, was the other infamous patreon one with Koruza that I never got the story finished for. Was about how Koruza got his Demon God powers from Mechikabura, who he gave him those powers to fight. To face a being
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:dVlIZQgl Fri 22 Aug 2025 15:58:29 No. 6294531 Report 24 hours to go until the training begins in earnest! I hope you're ready! Because I sure am!
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Less than 24 hours and I'm still sick like a dog. Maybe the continuation of this episode will cure me
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>>6294531 Are flying spinaroonies a valid form of calisthenics?
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:dVlIZQgl Fri 22 Aug 2025 18:50:27 No. 6294613 Report Quoted By:
>>6294565 Hopefully, good luck
>>6294587 No, flying training's antithetical to the Tournament where you can't fly.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 23 Aug 2025 14:46:19 No. 6294998 Report Quoted By:
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 23 Aug 2025 15:57:07 No. 6295020 Report >>6292235 Previously on Saiyan Conqueror Quest:
With nine of the ten slots for the Tournament of Power decided, Chaya suddenly called, saying she wanted to fill the last slot despite ten members already being chosen. Then, during the strategy meeting of the Seventh Universe's brightest leaders, the android Amazo returned, bringing his intelligence gathered of the other universes. Revealing not only how powerful Moro had become, but also how much stronger Jiren is than even he. On his advice Karn departed New Salda and returned to Earth, swapping Ginyu out of the time chamber. As he claimed only Karn and Freeza had potentially the powers to rival Jiren, and as we rejoin Karn, your first day training together has already yielded results.
“HAAAAAA!” Freeza shouts, only, as he swings, you feel it. That same feeling from before, the certainty, the POWER surging from within. Your body suddenly moves, dodging Freeza's right and raising your right arm on its own. Slamming into his chest with a massive lariat, slamming him straight down to the ground in a blink. Your form moving as if you weren't just on the brink of exhaustion, struggling to remain standing. But the moment that blow lands, your mind wonders to Freeza, if you may have hit him too hard, and the power instantly fades. Vanishing as quickly as it appeared, a wave of exhaustion washing over you. Knocking you off your feet as well, dropping you down to your hands and knees gasping for air. Where you stay for several minutes, until you see Freeza's feet as he has gotten up, and stands before you. “I think I've figured it out.”
“What?” you ask, looking up his legs to see the former emperor standing above you, a curious gleam in his eye. Holding out his hand, to help you to your feet. Which you take, pulling yourself up with a grunt. “Figured what out?”
“How to draw this power of yours out of you.” he says, grin widening. Then, without hesitation or a tell suddenly swings his other hand at your head, you barely raising your arm in time to block.
“Tch!” you exhale through clenched teeth as the blow sends you sliding backwards across the void. “What do you mean?”
“I think I have discovered the trick to bringing this power out of you.” he says, retaking his spread-arm stance, slightly panting as your own chest heaves with each breath. “Care to test my little theory out?”
Well? How do you answer?
>Yes, absolutely >Maybe, ask him to explain what he means, how he can draw it out >No, you need a minute because you've still haven't recovered from tapping into it earlier >Other(write in)? Anonymous
>>6295020 >>Yes, absolutely Let's see what he's cooking up
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>>6295020 >>Yes, absolutely alright, do your thing
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>>6295020 >Yes, absolutely Who are we, as Saiyans, to say anything other than "Hell Yeah"?
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>>6295020 >Yes, absolutely GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO
GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 23 Aug 2025 16:27:34 No. 6295039 Report >>6295023 >>6295024 >>6295026 >>6295031 Yes, absolutely wins it unanimously. Let's see if he has you figured out, roll me a 3d100.
First DC: 90
Second DC: 75
Third DC: 60
And as you're maintaining your Berserker God form, best of 4
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Rolled 87, 91, 6 = 184 (3d100) >>6295039 show me big numbers baby
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Rolled 77, 77, 11 = 165 (3d100) >>6295039 This is for SCIENCE!
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Rolled 1, 91, 86 = 178 (3d100) >>6295039 Come on, baby!
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>>6295048 roll the last one bitch, or i'll do it
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Rolled 57, 46, 58 = 161 (3d100) >>6295050 I forgot, captcha was being shitty
>>6295039 Joe-wari da.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 23 Aug 2025 16:43:16 No. 6295054 Report >>6295040 >[ >>6295041 >>6295045 >>6295052 Crit Fail/100, 91/100, 86/100. Looks like it takes you a little(a lot of) pain to get there, but Freeza may have your Instinct figured out. Writing.
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>>6295040 >>6295045 Oh sweet, dub 91
>>6295054 Does the dub get us something to offset the crit fail?
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Oh yeah. Starting off STRONG today.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 23 Aug 2025 16:48:00 No. 6295059 Report Quoted By:
>>6295054 DUB 91, not just a basic 91. You'll see what that rewards you soon.
>>6295057 >offset No. But, well... You'll see what happens with it.
>>6295058 Not entirely inaccurate.
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The "hold my beer" instinct runs deep with the Cold family, huh?
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>>6295060 There are no such things as half-measures in the Cold Clan, as evidenced by Cooler's only recently recovered ass and ego.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 23 Aug 2025 17:57:54 No. 6295102 Report >>6295020 “Absolutely!” you reply, clenching your fists and powering back up. Bringing your full remaining strength to bare as your aura blazes. To which Freeza smirks, clenching his own fists. His Golden aura blazing even higher than before, strength dwarfing your own.
“Good. Because now I'm not going to hold back, even slightly! And with the full, unbridled might of my Golden form, I shall push you beyond your limits! SHYAAAAAAA!!”
And before you've fully registered his shout he's already closed the distance, slamming his right fist into your guts before you can guard yourself. His heavy blow knocking the wind from you, as well as knocking you off your feet. Sending you flying dozens of yards back before crashing to the strange ground of the time chamber, rolling to a stop flat on your chest. But before you can even start pushing yourself upright, Freeza kicks you in the guts, lifting you up into the air from the force of his kick just to take a left to the jaw. Where you feel something crack, his blow again sending you flying.
“DAMMIT!” you think to yourself, flipping back once and landing on all fours, kicking off the ground and taking to the air as Freeza closes in again. But he doesn't give you a moment's reprieve, kicking off the ground after you. Closing in in a blur, firing a blindingly fast left at your jaw. You barely manage to raise your right in time, blocking his punch with your forearm. “Kch!”
“Come on, fight back Karn!” Freeza shouts, following his left up with a right, you blocking it as well. Forced completely on the defense as he attacks relentlessly, your entire being focused on guarding against his attacks. Arms raised, doing your best to stop his onslaught. Yet for every punch and kick you block, another two break through your guard to land true. He relentlessly attacks you until, with a final right to your temple, everything goes dark. Where you find yourself floating in the void once more for several seconds, until a familiar warmth begins spreading throughout your body. And your eyes open, finding Freeza looking down at you in concern. “There you are. Forgive me, seems I was wrong in my evaluation.”
“Freeza?” you ask, the world feeling as if it's spinning. “Wh-?”
“I had thought that this form would appear when pushed to your physical limits, like before. That the stress of battle would push you over the edge, and ascend.” he says, sounding a little guilty. “But it would seem this hypothesis was incorrect. Sorry.”
“You're about half right.” you reply, sitting up, your body feeling refreshed and revitalized by the Bottomless Divine Blessing, tapping your head as you continue. “Battle helps. But it's not about me physically. It's more up here.”
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 23 Aug 2025 18:00:06 No. 6295104 Report >>6295102 “Oh? So it isn't necessarily a matter of physical stress, but of maintaining a proper mindset, or thought process?” he asks, crossing his arms as he considers your words.
“Every time I've used it before, it was because I was fully... What's a good word? Focused?” you start, looking down at your hand. “When me and the Berserker Soul align fully, merging ourselves together completely in goals and desires, that's when it happens.”
“Oh? I see. And that's why you're able to tap into this elevated state in the midst of battle. When you're so focused on the battle itself that all other outside thoughts disappear, leaving only your instincts...” he says, voice trailing off. Eyes not looking at you but far away, as if remembering someone else's words to him. “Which is why for your training you wish to fully envelop yourself in this power, to more truly become one with it. I see, I see! And this place, with so few distractions or interruptions, is perfect for this sort of training.”
“Exactly. When holding this form is as natural as breathing, when it and I have become one, then keeping ourselves aligned to tap into those instincts should be easier.”
“Very well. Then I shall aid you, Karn, in elevating yourself to this state. However...” he says, voice trailing off a moment. “While pushing ourselves to our next levels is important, I feel we should not simply limit ourselves to only this. That there is more training to be done.”
“Of course. We have to be absolutely ready when we leave. Hell, we may have to be ready to fight the second we step out, if those bastards Zamasu attack again.” you reply. “Or maybe they send Moro over to try and eliminate our universe before the tournament even begins.”
“Then we are in agreement. Which leaves us only one question: how shall we train?” he asks you, offering you a hand up. Which you take, Freeza pulling you up to your feet.
Well? What other aspect shall you focus on while training?
>Power. Focus on training to increase your raw strength. The more you can close the gap between yourself and the likes of Jiren and Moro in this form, the better >Skill. Focus on your hand-to-hand technique, your Djem So, Su Ma, Juyo, and other forms >Technique. Focus on improving your ki attacks, making them stronger, faster, and more efficient >New Techniques. Focus on developing new techniques with Freeza's help, try and pioneer new ways to use your energy for this battle >Efficiency. Focus on making your ki use more efficient, your transformed state burn less power, conserving every ounce of strength you can. Being strong is good, but being strong for longer is far better >Other(write in)? This was only for that nat 1 so far, the results of the dub 91 and later 86 will be revealed as your training continues Anonymous
>>6295104 >Efficiency. Focus on making your ki use more efficient, your transformed state burn less power, conserving every ounce of strength you can. Being strong is good, but being strong for longer is far better The ToP is a lot longer than it seems and we need every edge we can get to stay in the fight.
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>>6295104 >Skill. Focus on your hand-to-hand technique, your Djem So, Su Ma, Juyo, and other forms I think Karn and Frieza both would benefit greatly from refining their own preferred styles. The more ingrained our techniques become, the less thinking we'll be doing in a fight.
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Before I vote, I want to ask how long can we maintain our Beserker God form for? I remember our HTC session with Chaya improved our stamina in that form, but by how much I can't remember right away
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 23 Aug 2025 18:21:42 No. 6295114 Report >>6295112 A few days consecutively. Not quite a week.
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>>6295104 >Skill. Focus on your hand-to-hand technique, your Djem So, Su Ma, Juyo, and other forms I wonder if Bane has any tips for maintaining the mindset for Supreme Instinct.
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>>6295104 >Power. Focus on training to increase your raw strength. The more you can close the gap between yourself and the likes of Jiren and Moro in this form, the better Anonymous
>>6295114 And I'm assuming that's the longest we can go while drinking tea and reading the newspaper, and not slugging the closest motherfucker in the jaw in fury. Hmm...
>>6295104 >Skill. Focus on your hand-to-hand technique, your Djem So, Su Ma, Juyo, and other forms Like the other guy said, the more ingrained our techniques are, the less brainpower we'll have to use in our fights, which will help with Supreme Instinct. And since this is going to be about 50 minutes of nonlethal combat with varying levels of power at play, we won't be in our strongest form at all times. Let's not solely rely on bigger numbers, yeah?
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 23 Aug 2025 18:33:16 No. 6295122 Report >>6295121 That was while daily training with Chaya.
>>6295105 >>6295107 >>6295116 >>6295119 Skill. Focus on your hand-to-hand technique, your Djem So, Su Ma, Juyo, and other forms wins it. Roll me a 4d100.
First DC: 20
Second DC: 35
Third DC: 50
Fourth DC: 75
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Rolled 81, 4, 42, 40 = 167 (4d100) >>6295122 Anonymous
Rolled 30, 26, 88, 91 = 235 (4d100) >>6295122 Oh so stamina is basically a non-issue as long as we're not getting our energy sapped or constantly form flickering then
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Rolled 10, 43, 3, 7 = 63 (4d100) >>6295122 Anonymous
Rolled 41, 96, 77, 13 = 227 (4d100) >>6295122 Anonymous
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 23 Aug 2025 18:49:33 No. 6295138 Report Quoted By:
Rolled 75, 3 = 78 (2d100) >>6295124 >>6295125 >>6295128 >>6295129 81/100, 96/100, 88/100, 91/100. Another 91 for my collection, and four big successes. Writing.
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>inb4 we remaster Saiyan Brawling
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>>6295143 only way to beat The Hulk is to be a bigger, angrier, greener hulk.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 23 Aug 2025 20:14:18 No. 6295172 Report >>6295104 “Well, we could work on our ki techniques, making them better. But judging one attack wrong and killing someone would result in us being disqualified.” you say, bringing your right hand to your chin once on your feet as you think it over. “And while working on raw strength is good, we won't always be fighting at full power. With seventy other fighters from the other universes in this free-for-all, we won't always be fighting at one hundred percent. I think the best use of our time is putting the heaviest focus on our skill.”
“Skill?” he asks, raising a brow. To which you nod, continuing.
“Exactly. We master our hand-to-hand techniques and styles. Skill can close quite a bit of the power gap, as long as it's not overwhelming.” you reply, cracking your neck back and forth. “Djem So, Su Ma, Juyo, not to mention that Earthling style, the Infinite Arm Fist.”
“Infinite what now?” Freeza asks, immediately interested. To which you smirk, then leap from the living area in the Room of Spirit and Time out into the void, the gravity settling down on you as you clench your fists. Drawing back upon the Berserker Soul's power and transforming, ascending back into your Berserker God state then take your fighting stance.
“Come on, and I'll show you.” you tempt, gathering your ki into your arms. Weaving them in the infinity symbol before you, and as you move, your arms start leaving behind their own afterimages. Images which follow the movements of your own arms, Freeza staring, mesmerized a moment before leaping over, powering back up into his Golden form and taking his stance before you.
“So, you simply create afterimages of your fists, to prevent an opponent from guessing where your next strike is coming from?” he asks, cautiously curious. “Seems a waste of energy to me.”
“Not quite. Let's see how many of my punches you can stop.” you say, firing a left jab at his jaw. Which Freeza blocks with his left forearm easily. You draw your left back, firing a right jab this time, which Freeza blocks as well. Barely paying attention to the illusory fist headed for him. Only for it to slam into his jaw, catching him completely by surprise.
“Kuh?! W-What, they're REAL?!” he exclaims, blocking both your next illusory fists, only to take your real hand's left uppercut straight to the guts. “Ghh!?”
“That's right. This is the Infinite Arm Fist! Courtesy of one of Earth's warriors, the man called King Chappa.” you reply, continuing to attack. Your illusory arms continuing to attack as your real fists strike at openings in his guard while he's blocking your ki fists, only to then have to block them as well. The number of attacks you throw out a second increases exponentially, until even Freeza at his fullest power is struggling underneath the onslaught.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 23 Aug 2025 20:15:25 No. 6295174 Report >>6295172 “Guhhh! Grrrr!” he snarls, trying his best to fight back but your onslaught washes over him like a wave. For every five blows he blocks, another two find their mark. Every second getting hit with dozens of blows he's unable to block or slip as you push yourself to the limit. Giving the technique everything you've got, battering Freeza as you push him back step by step. Until, furious, he roars, unleashing his golden ki in an Explosive Wave. “SHYAAAAAAAAA!!”
“Gyuuha!” you wheeze as his ki, ripping the illusory ki fists to shreds slams into you. Sending you flying for a couple dozen yards, then flipping backwards and landing on all fours. Sliding back, letting the momentum carry you back up to your feet as you slide to a stop. “Heh. So, what do you think?”
“What? Do I think?” he replies, panting. Trying to catch his breath. “What. The hell?”
“It's quite the technique, isn't it?” you reply, grinning. “And now that we have this year to train, I'm going to master this style as well.”
“Style?” Yes, I could see how such a technique could be a style all its own.” he replies, his own hand coming to his chin. While his other hand he moves it, mirroring your startup with that half of the infinite symbol. Moving his arm the same way you had, creating the same phantom fists flowing behind his real one. Throwing a jab in the air, then watching as the phantom limbs follow suit then merge back with his real hand each time. “Interesting. Quite the technique that Earthling developed. King Chappa, you said his name was? I shall have to thank him personally, once this tournament's through.”
“So, you ready?” you reply, retaking your fighting stance. “This year's not getting any longer.”
“Perhaps...” he replies, then starts copying the Infinite Arm Fist seriously, using both hands and fully activating the technique. Throwing a couple attacks, watching how the other arms copy them while keeping his real hands moving, so they don't merge back with the phantom ones again. “Yes, this could work.”
The two of you continue to spar throughout the day, pushing yourselves to exhaustion until Freeza calls an end to the sparring. Where you both drop, exhausted. Falling to a knee, yet you maintain your Berserker God form, despite the strain on your exhausted body. Freeza, however, drops his Golden form. Reverting back to normal as he struggles.
“Damn. Maintaining my Golden form. Through exhaustion. Is far more. Difficult. Than I'd imagined.” he says on all fours, unable to push himself back up yet, but refusing to fall flat on the ground. Despite being miles away from the living area and with the heavy gravity pressing down on you both, he refuses to fall completely.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 23 Aug 2025 20:16:26 No. 6295176 Report >>6295174 And so your days go, training in the isolation of the Time Chamber with Freeza. You explain the schedule Towa'd developed with Future Chaya, the four days of training and one day of rest, which he agrees to stick to with you. And for the first four days, you manage to maintain it. However, waking up the fifth day, you discover your body had reverted back down to your base form in your sleep. So, with a grunt you power back up, refreshing yourself before going into the common area. Where Freeza is seated at the table, idly sipping something.
“Ahh, morning Karn. I was just thinking.” he says, not turning to look at you, but staring out into the void. “Do you think this void, that it's spherical, like a planet? That if one were to go far enough they'd circle it and return here? Or perhaps there's a boundary, somewhere out there. And that this dimension is more closely dome-shaped? Or perhaps it simply is an endless void, where the only touchable surface endlessly is the ground beneath our feet? What do you think?”
“I've... Never thought about it.” you reply after a moment's consideration. “But there HAS to be an end, right? It can't go on forever, can it?”
“I had assumed much the same. So, while you're having your rest today, I had considered flying out.” he says, you not quite recognizing the almost wild look in his eye. “With you here to tether me to the entrance so I don't become lost in this expanse, never to return, I can go explore. And see just how large this dimension is. What do you say, Karn? Shall we test it?”
Well? How do you respond?
>Tell him to go for it, to see just how far he can go. Or if he'll reach the point gravity's too strong for even his Golden form >Ask what he's hoping to achieve, what knowing how this dimension's shaped will do for him >Tell him you wouldn't, but if he's going to then at least use the Multiform. If he goes beyond either of your range, he can at least teleport back to himself >Say that this is a terrible idea, you wouldn't do it if you were him and try to talk him down >Other(write in)? Anonymous
>>6295176 >>Ask what he's hoping to achieve, what knowing how this dimension's shaped will do for him I'm not entirely AGAINST the idea but I do want to know what the point is.
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>>6295176 >>Tell him to go for it, to see just how far he can go. Or if he'll reach the point gravity's too strong for even his Golden form pretty sure this place doesn't follow real physics
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>>6295176 >Ask what he's hoping to achieve, what knowing how this dimension's shaped will do for him It's an interesting question. I'm half curious of his theory and half worried that the room did something to him.
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>>6295174 >“Perhaps...” he replies, then starts copying the Infinite Arm Fist seriously, using both hands and fully activating the technique. He learned it after seeing it once. Prodigy.
>>6295176 >Tell him to go for it, to see just how far he can go. Or if he'll reach the point gravity's too strong for even his Golden form I want to know too.
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>>6295188 oh yeah, Freeza's fuckin' cracked when it comes to potential, probably even more than Gohan. I see why so many of his alternate selves stagnate and consider themselves invincible until getting cut down.
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>>6295176 >>Ask what he's hoping to achieve, what knowing how this dimension's shaped will do for him GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO
GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 23 Aug 2025 20:49:01 No. 6295197 Report >>6295178 >>6295181 >>6295186 >>6295188 >>6295195 Ask what he's hoping to achieve, what knowing how this dimension's shaped will do for him wins it. Roll me a 2d100.
DC: ???
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Rolled 29, 41 = 70 (2d100) >>6295197 Anonymous
Rolled 15, 18 = 33 (2d100) >>6295197 Anonymous
Rolled 75, 47 = 122 (2d100) >>6295197 GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO
GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 23 Aug 2025 21:01:11 No. 6295206 Report Anyone taking that fourth roll?
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Rolled 1, 70 = 71 (2d100) >>6295206 I got you
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 23 Aug 2025 21:11:53 No. 6295215 Report Quoted By:
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This sounds mildly dangerous....freeza bro isnt cracking in the void is he?
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>>6295253 there's nothing mild about the htc. But on the Homie Questions scale, this is a little suspect.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 23 Aug 2025 22:43:24 No. 6295260 Report >>6295176 While you're sorely tempted to tell him to just go for it and see how far he can go, you don't say so yet. Instead, you start with a question.
“What're you hoping to achieve?” you ask him, raising a brow. “What will knowing how this dimension's shaped do for you?”
“Do? It won't DO anything. But, I'm rather curious just how far this 'endless' expanse expands.” he says, looking over, out across the void. “I'm curious if, just like that pocket dimension Whis shunted me into a few months back, this world also has a limit. Or if it truly is endless...”
Voice trailing off, he's seemingly lost a moment before shaking his head, turning back to you.
“So. What do you think? Shall I push the boundaries of this 'limitless' realm?” he asks you, meeting your gaze.
“Alright. Let's do this.” you reply telepathically, nodding to him. Freeza meets your nod with a grin,rising up from his seat and setting the glass down. You watch as he walks down the steps and directly out into the void. He takes several steps into the void, then in a golden flash transforms. Ascending to Golden Freeza, then he turns back to you.
“Let's see just how 'limitless' this void really is.” he says aloud, turning back then blasting off the ground. Exploding in a flash of gold, dashing off. You watch as he grows smaller and smaller over the next minute, until you can only see the glow of his aura.
“Damn, he's really going far out there.” you say, sitting at the table, watching his glow fading as you focus on his energy with your ki sense. Watching as even the golden glow of his aura fades completely, already flying further away than the breadth of even your home of New Salda. But he keeps going, flying further and further away. Traveling two of your homeworlds away, then three, then further and further. Yet as he flies, you can feel it. His power starts increasing, drawing upon more and more of his power. No doubt feeling the gravity increasing more and more as he heads further and further away. For several minutes you feel his energy growing more and more distant, until he suddenly <span class="mu-i">thinks</span> to you.
“Gravity's already too high to keep flying. But I'm not stopping yet!” he exclaims through the telepathic link, you feeling his distant ki blazing. Reaching the peak of his Golden power, pushing forward for another minute. “Dammit! Even in this gilded form, I-I can't go any further!”
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 23 Aug 2025 22:44:28 No. 6295262 Report >>6295260 “Maybe this void really is limitless?” you reply, a moment later Freeza appears at your feet. On his hand and knees, other hand to his forehead as he teleports to you with Instant Transmission. Covered in sweat, body trembling in clear fatigue as his body loses that golden glow. Reverting back down to his base, but doesn't immediately get up. “You alright?”
“I... Am fine...” he replies tiredly, you getting up and offering him a hand. Which he takes, letting you pull him upright. Where he staggers into the chair he'd claimed earlier, collapsing into it and taking another pull of his drink. “The gravity out there gets quite intense indeed. Wherever the end is, I was nowhere near it.”
“Then maybe it truly doesn't have a limit?” you reply, Freeza shaking his head.
“No. There is an end, an outer boundary to this place. I can feel it.” he replies, turning to you with a surprisingly intense look in his eyes. “I will find it. Even if that's only possible once I've mastered my own power even further beyond...”
A moment of silence hangs between you, and while you don't get his obsession with the shape or limits of this dimension, the fact it's motivating him to become even stronger is enough for you. However, once he's caught his breath, Freeza then turns to you inquisitively.
“So, you really are taking every fifth day to not train? To not exert yourself, pushing your limits?” he asks you.
“That's right. Thanks to Towa, I learned that having one day to let the body truly rest further bolsters our growth.” you let him know, Freeza raising a hand to his chin, thinking. “And that, sometimes, my strongest boosts of power were from when I would be down for more than a day.”
“Ahhh, I see. So THAT is why. Interesting.” he says, you not quite getting what he means. “But tell me, Karn. On this day you're not physically exerting yourself, what skill shall you work on? While I know you won't be pushing yourself, this seems the perfect opportunity to work on your energy.”
“My energy?” you ask, surprised as he nods.
“Of course. Resting doesn't mean inactive, yes? And you told me how you and Chaya would work on that Lightning Body technique on the days you weren't pushing your limits. So, tell me: what do you plan to use this time for?”
Well? Do you have any techniques you plan on improving?
>Focus on making your energy attacks far more efficient. Conserving power could play a major role in the Tournament of Power, and is a good skill in general to improve >Refining your current techniques for the rules of the tournament, you don't want to get disqualified for accidentally killing someone after all >Develop a new technique or two, something different than your usual attacks >Work on your ki control, on how precisely you can use your energy >Other(write in)? Anonymous
>>6295262 >Improve your Precognition- any edge could help Here's a fun trick we know that we could use some practice at.
Anonymous
>>6295262 Gonna support
>>6295263 , the tournament will be hectic and some dipshit is going to go for a sneak more than once.
But it does beg the question, just exactly how many people know that Karn can legit see into the future and isn't just him being badass?
Anonymous
>>6295262 >>Refining your current techniques for the rules of the tournament, you don't want to get disqualified for accidentally killing someone after all you never know
Anonymous
>>6295262 >Refining your current techniques for the rules of the tournament, you don't want to get disqualified for accidentally killing someone after all Anonymous
>>6295262 >Refining your current techniques for the rules of the tournament, you don't want to get disqualified for accidentally killing someone after all Ki Kanabo here we come.
Anonymous
>>6295174 Thinking about it, the infinite fist arm to face to fist style probably works pretty well with hammerfists and chops. Since they're easy to maneuver whether they hit or are blocked since you just bend your elbow and now they're sliding past. End up looking like a ribbon dancer if you spin though.
>>6295192 I remember how he made independently tracking destructo disks after Krillin hit him with one. I also remember how he cut himself in half with them. High int low wis kek
Anonymous
>>6295274 I feel like other arm based trikes like lariats, palm strikes, and elbows could also be used with the Infinite Arm Fist as well.
Imagine hitting somebody with a Piercing Fist Mk II like 100 times over in the same spot. THAT would be devastating.
Anonymous
>>6295262 >Improve your Precognition- any edge could help GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO
GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 23 Aug 2025 23:19:56 No. 6295288 Report Quoted By:
And since you all managed a tie 3:3, leaving this vote open for another fifteen minutes.
Anonymous
>>6295269 >>6295262 >>Improve your Precognition- any edge could help Changing my vote to this. Precognition has come in clutch before after all.
Anonymous
>>6295279 Honestly strikes that would normally be very weak or ineffective at causing damage rather than harrassment probably work great. Imagine an eyepoke that repeats a dozen times so you can't move your head back to normal posture. Or knuckle jabs in the intercostal space of the ribs that hurt like a son of a bitch but don't do much else so you instinctively want to get away from it or it'll make it painful to breathe. Even a weak hit a hundred times will break down your defenses in that particular spot. Like getting poked in the arm a few dozen times. Shit starts to hurt after a while.
Throwing debilitating moves into the mix rather than harmful ones is probably pretty legit. To say nothing of throwing lethal shit in there and forcing people to dodge like a maniac.
Anonymous
>>6295293 >mfw I get caught in the Infinite Titty Twister GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO
GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 23 Aug 2025 23:29:23 No. 6295297 Report >>6295274 Yes, those sorts of punches from unexpected angles work quite well.
>>6295279 Remember, only the 'fist' part is tangible. How you don't collide with all those arms trying to occupy the same spaces simultaneously.
>>6295293 Eye pokes are certainly an option, but again only the hand itself is "real" in the phantom limbs.
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>>6295297 Right, right. Anyways, Karate style hand forms and strikes from blindspots could be devastating in one-on-ones with this style.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 23 Aug 2025 23:39:10 No. 6295303 Report >>6295263 >>6295265 >>6295266 >>6295267 >>6295269 >>6295281 >>6295291 Write in of Improve your Precognition- any edge could help wins it. Very well, let's see how well and far you can see. Roll me a 5d100, still best of 4.
First DC: 30
Second DC: 45
Third DC: 60
Fourth DC: 75
Fifth DC: 90
Anonymous
Rolled 42, 50, 77, 83, 7 = 259 (5d100) >>6295303 Anonymous
Rolled 13, 98, 65, 43, 56 = 275 (5d100) >>6295303 I wonder how well our Precognition functions outside of our native time and space.
Anonymous
Rolled 44, 31, 38, 38, 14 = 165 (5d100) >>6295303 Anonymous
Rolled 32, 72, 16, 73, 76 = 269 (5d100) >>6295296 >tfw >>6295297 >but again only the hand itself is "real" in the phantom limbs. I never suggested anything that wasn't ZA HANDO though kek. Unless you mean to say literally ONLY a closed fist counts and not the actual hand and its shape. If I thought the rest of the arm was "tangible" I'd suggest unending horizontal 8 elbows. Say goodbye to your collarbone type shit y'know'sayin?
>>6295303 Rollan big monay
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 23 Aug 2025 23:47:11 No. 6295312 Report >>6295307 A very good question. But it has worked in Conton City, so you know it works outside your timeline at the very least. Anyways:
>>6295306 >>6295307 >>6295308 >>6295309 44/100, 98/100, 77/100, 83/100, 76/100. Eighty percent success rate, seems that over the course of this next year you're improving greatly. Writing.
Anonymous
>>6295312 >A very good question A better question is whether or not it works OUTSIDE of Space and Time.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sat 23 Aug 2025 23:56:49 No. 6295318 Report >>6295315 The magic of Conton City makes it the same. Those inside mostly don't age, depending on where they live, even Fusions like Gotenks and Vegito don't split apart.
Anonymous
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>>6295318 Now THAT is interesting. It's a wonder anything works right in such a temporal anomaly, but I guess that's the Supreme Kai of Time for you.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 24 Aug 2025 01:13:16 No. 6295373 Report Second post finished, almost ready guys I promise! This one's just a longer update.
Anonymous
>>6295373 It's gonna be one hell of a rest day I reckon.
Anonymous
>>6295375 Alcohol and Saiyans make for a terrifying combination.
Anonymous
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>>6295379 Only when there isn't another Saiyan around to keep them in check. Just ask Goar.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 24 Aug 2025 01:31:17 No. 6295385 Report >>6295262 “I'm going to work on...” you say, but as you do an idea comes to mind. One different from reworking all of your techniques to make less lethal versions so you don't accidentally kill someone. “This tournament could get chaotic, and I thought of the perfect way to counteract that chaos.”
“Oh?” he asks, clearly intrigued as he takes another sip. “Tell me, what new ideas have come into that mind of yours?”
“Simple. I work on seeing the future.” you reply, Freeza freezing completely. Going absolutely still, then after a few seconds blinks. Once.
“Seeing. The future. Wait, you mean Precognition?” he asks, shocked. “You have that ability?”
“I've had it since the war. But, after things slowed down, didn't focus quite as heavily on it.” you reply, grinning excitedly. “And even when training Chaya, while I did put it to use, I don't feel like I made all that much progress with the technique.”
“Because you didn't.” Bane's phantom answers slyly, you ignoring his comment as you talk with Freeza.
“But now I can really devote some time to it. Back then we were working on the Lightning Body technique, as it could have fried that Tuffle bastard had it tried to infect her.” you continue excitedly. “But now? Now I can REALLY work on mastering it.”
“Interesting. Perhaps we shall test this Precognition, as you begin to master it.” Freeza says to you. “Well then, how shall you train it?”
“Hrmmm, that's a good question.” you reply, crossing your arms as you consider it. “I suppose I'll have to seek advice on this matter.”
“A wise call.” Bane replies in your mind, his image appearing beside you while Freeza blinks at you once. Slowly.
“Long story short I touched a holocron, and now have the imprint of Darth Bane in my mind.” you say, gesturing to the phantom standing beside you. Freeza's eyes narrow, but he doesn't directly say anything. Not at first. But after a moment simply nods, taking another drink.
“However you choose to follow this, give it your all.” Freeza replies before pushing himself up to his feet, having rested from being nearly crushed by the void's intense gravity on the outer edges. “I shall be working on my own techniques today. Pushing the limits of what I can do.”
“Good luck.” you reply, the two of you sharing a nod before he walks back out once more. Heading into the void as you turn to Bane, addressing the phantom directly. “So. How should we start?”
To which the Sith Lord's phantom grins, a dark amusement in his eyes.
cont
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 24 Aug 2025 01:32:20 No. 6295386 Report >>6295385 “First, clear your mind. Remove all extraneous thoughts, and let yourself simply... Be.” the phantom tells you, then with a chuckle adds. “Something not nearly as difficult for you as some, <span class="mu-i">General</span>.”
And with the Sith Lord's phantom guidance, he leads you how to correctly meditate, how to feel the flow of the force through yourself, Freeza, and even this void. And as you attune yourself to this flow, you begin to see. Flashes of the past, of the future, of things that could have been and even other versions of yourself, you begin to see them.
“Good. That means you're able to feel it. Now, once you can feel it, you can take control. To exert your will over it, to bend these visions to your end.” he tells you. “But you must be careful, must be cautious. That you do not see strictly what you wish to see, but what could be. Showing you the possibilities of the future as you need them, not a never-ending flow of information. You must control what you see, but not see only what you wish.”
“What does that mean?” you ask, having relocated to the final step and sat cross-legged as Freeza works with his ki. Trying to find the source of power within himself, to seek the strength of that next level and tap into it.
“Watch your ally. Focus on him, see his progress.” Bane's phantom says, then places his hand on your head. Where you see a vision of him achieving that power in the next few moments, power skyrocketing as he does it! But as the vision ends, you watch, Freeza instead dropping to a knee. “Seeing only the future you wish to see will blind you to the possibilities. Especially that of failure. You must learn to witness what could happen, not only what you desire to happen.”
“I see.” you reply, closing your eyes again as you focus. And so your training continues, the rest of the day spent in meditation and watching Freeza. Trying to tap into the possibilities of the moment, to see all the ways his training can progress. And another method is Bane tells you to focus on him, to see which way he'll move. Leaving you to try and see that future before he moves. Every five days you do this training, and before long start to feel results. One month from the day you arrived, as you're sparring Freeza in his Golden form while you fight in your Berserker God form, you feel it. The Precognition of his next strike as you block his left, and using this foreknowledge easily dodge his next blow. Stepping in and slipping past his right cross while countering him with a left hook to the jaw, staggering him.
cont
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 24 Aug 2025 01:36:05 No. 6295389 Report >>6295386 “Khhhhh!” he seethes through clenched teeth, planting his feet then countering with his tail. Which you also see coming, pulling your left back. Blocking the strike with your forearm, his blow sending you sliding back across the ground. Yet, as he finishes his spin and sees you've not transformed in that moment his brows furrow. “You didn't transform.”
“...No?” you reply, confused. It takes him a moment, only for his eyes to widen slightly in understanding.
“You saw my attack coming. It's only been a month, and you're already reading my attacks.” he smirks, standing back up to his full height. Only for his brows to furrow again, this time more concerned. “While useful, do you think mastering this technique could... Hamper, your progress?”
“Huh? Hamper it? What do you mean?” you ask, confused.
“You had told me that your Supreme Instinct, as you called it, worked with a certain mindset. But can you attain such while using your newfound Precognition?” he asks you, the question stopping you in your tracks. Wait, what if he's right? Does focusing on this skill, on knowing the future through Precognition too much prevent you from being able to achieve the right mindset for Supreme Instinct? Or, does keeping your mind so focused on the battle, present and future actually enable you to more-easily obtain it, the focus on the fight and your Precognition preventing errant thoughts from slipping in? You have no idea, and it's not like anyone actually knows the answer. There was only one other being who could use this power, according to Mechikabura, and he's now gone. Whatever was left of his subconsciousness has fully merged with you, after what Dumplin did to your family. Which leaves you with one question:
Do you continue to pursue this path? Or abandon it and perhaps focus on other areas instead?
>Keep pushing forward, you're not going to start doubting and second-guessing yourself now. You have chosen the path and won't back down now >Perhaps he's right, maybe instead of trying to see into the future, you can use this meditative state Bane's been helping you achieve to instead focus your own mind and align with the Berserker Soul better, perhaps this mediation was the key to reaching Supreme Instinct? >Try and obtain the Supreme Instinct state for the next month while using Precognition, if you don't attain them simultaneously in that time, you'll know the Precognition and Supreme Instinct are incompatible <span class="mu-r">I cannot reveal which path is 'correct', if there even is a correct path. This is a choice you have to make, with the 10 and 1/2 months to train with Freeza you have left in the Time Chamber.</span>
Anonymous
>>6295389 >Keep pushing forward, you're not going to start doubting and second-guessing yourself now. You have chosen the path and won't back down now There's no way these aren't synergistic and complementary. Gotta be.
Anonymous
>>6295389 >Perhaps he's right, maybe instead of trying to see into the future, you can use this meditative state Bane's been helping you achieve to instead focus your own mind and align with the Berserker Soul better, perhaps this mediation was the key to reaching Supreme Instinct? While we're not consciously drawing out our visions, we ARE consciously reacting to them. While they're definitely related to the fight at hand in here while we're sparring, they won't always be, and could just as easily distract us. Frieza might be right here.
It'd be nice if we could re-manifest the original Karn and ask about it, but he's well and truly gone.
Anonymous
>>6295385 >his image appearing beside you while Freeza blinks at you once. Slowly. >“Long story short I touched a holocron, and now have the imprint of Darth Bane in my mind.” you say, gesturing to the phantom standing beside you. Freeza's eyes narrow, but he doesn't directly say anything. Not at first. But after a moment simply nods, taking another drink. I'm fucking dying, just the slow, "Is my bro good?", blink, like Freeza has the universe meme expanding in his head as Karn says this is just...once the series is done, this needs to be animated somehow with no more context.
>>6295389 >Perhaps he's right, maybe instead of trying to see into the future, you can use this meditative state Bane's been helping you achieve to instead focus your own mind and align with the Berserker Soul better, perhaps this mediation was the key to reaching Supreme Instinct? Anonymous
>>6295389 >>Try and obtain the Supreme Instinct state for the next month while using Precognition, if you don't attain them simultaneously in that time, you'll know the Precognition and Supreme Instinct are incompatible i think it's worth a try
Anonymous
>>6295395 I'll vote for this instead, since it seems like we don't wanna go all in. I get it
>>6295389 >>6295389 Anonymous
I didn't expect this from the write in. Uhhhhhhh
They both sound the same in theory, right? There's something more to this, and I KNOW it, but I don't know if there's enough time to figure out the missing link here. What I do know is that they're both incomplete and unrefined techniques, and that cramming both will be less helpful than focusing on one or the other. Like, imagine if we tried doing that Lightning Energy Body thing as soon as we came up with energy body and learned sith lightning, and not having years and years of dedicated effort put into either technique.
>>6295389 Perhaps he's right, maybe instead of trying to see into the future, you can use this meditative state Bane's been helping you achieve to instead focus your own mind and align with the Berserker Soul better, perhaps this mediation was the key to reaching Supreme Instinct?
This feels like the best compromise, as both Precog and SI seem to be related with this meditation thing.
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I didn't expect this from the write in. Uhhhhhhh
They both sound the same in theory, right? There's something more to this, and I KNOW it, but I don't know if there's enough time to figure out the missing link here. What I do know is that they're both incomplete and unrefined techniques, and that cramming both will be less helpful than focusing on one or the other. Like, imagine if we tried doing that Lightning Energy Body thing as soon as we came up with energy body and learned sith lightning, and not having years and years of dedicated effort put into either technique.
>>6295389 >Perhaps he's right, maybe instead of trying to see into the future, you can use this meditative state Bane's been helping you achieve to instead focus your own mind and align with the Berserker Soul better, perhaps this mediation was the key to reaching Supreme Instinct? This feels like the best compromise, as both Precog and SI seem to be related with this meditation thing.
Anonymous
>>6295389 >>Perhaps he's right, maybe instead of trying to see into the future, you can use this meditative state Bane's been helping you achieve to instead focus your own mind and align with the Berserker Soul better, perhaps this mediation was the key to reaching Supreme Instinct? GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO
GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 24 Aug 2025 02:13:03 No. 6295419 Report >>6295391 >>6295393 >>6295394 >>6295395 >>6295400 >>6295401 Dunno why you posted twice, since they're the same taking the first one.
>>6295410 Perhaps he's right, maybe instead of trying to see into the future, you can use this meditative state Bane's been helping you achieve to instead focus your own mind and align with the Berserker Soul better, perhaps this mediation was the key to reaching Supreme Instinct? wins it. Very well. Roll me a 2d100.
First DC: 110
Second DC: 120
These DC are combined with certain earlier rolls. You know which 2. Anonymous
Rolled 69, 74 = 143 (2d100) >>6295419 Anonymous
Rolled 29, 93 = 122 (2d100) >>6295419 Anonymous
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>>6295389 >>Keep pushing forward, you're not going to start doubting and second-guessing yourself now. You have chosen the path and won't back down now Can't remember when exactly it was (perhaps sparring with Cooler, maybe with Chaya), but our past attempts at developing our precognition have been some of the incidents which have triggered hints of Supreme Instinct.
I reckon there's a degree of synergy between them. Complete focus on and immersion in battle.
Anonymous
Rolled 70, 35 = 105 (2d100) >>6295419 Anonymous
Rolled 37, 20 = 57 (2d100) >>6295419 Anonymous
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Rolled 80, 18 = 98 (2d100) >>6295419 I messed up the greentext and got really annoyed about it
Anyways, roll
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 24 Aug 2025 02:26:07 No. 6295432 Report >>6295420 >>6295422 >>6295424 >>6295427 161/200, 179/200. Double success, and with the
dub 91 , you're going to make great strides. Writing.
Anonymous
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>>6295432 91 is the magic number it seems
Anonymous
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>>6295432 I love being big and green.
Anonymous
Recently started reading the archive of this qst and love the vibe and the AU history. So I come to join you now for hype moments and
Aura farming.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EsfQXEQMXkU Anonymous
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>>6295478 Welcome aboard bud. Don't mind the blood on the floor. It comes and goes.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 24 Aug 2025 03:51:48 No. 6295490 Report >>6295395 You think Freeza's words over, considering carefully what he's saying. And, looking back over the course of the last month, as focused as you were on using your Foresight, foreseeing Freeza's moves just before he would decide to use them. And in the past month, how you hadn't actually tapped back into your Supreme Instinct.
“Perhaps... You're right.” you reply, sighing out. “Maybe I have been to heavily focused on my Foresight to use Supreme Instinct.”
“I see. So, what now?” Freeza asks, as you take a deep breath, and sigh out.
“I don't know. But if our transformations beyond these forms are the key to our universe's survival, I can't take any chances.” you reply, shaking your head. Closing your eyes, taking a few slow, deep breaths, you then open your eyes, retaking your fighting stance. Seeing this, Freeza does the same. And on a wordless signal you both charge forward. Closing the gap between you in an instant, fists clashing in a collision of power.
As you and Freeza battle, you focus just as you had on your Foresight. Using the meditation techniques Bane had been drilling into you over the month, you decide to change your approach. Not focusing on the flow of the force through this world, Freeza, and yourself to peer into the possibilities of the future. But instead to look deep within yourself. Peering into the depths of the Berserker Soul. Feeling its fiery rage engulfing you as you and Freeza spar, going all-out against your friend. With every punch, every kick, every block, the inferno of the Berserker Soul's power grows around you, your aura engulfing you both as you fight.
“Yes, that's it Karn! Show me more!” Freeza shouts, matching you blow for blow. However, suddenly he leaps high into the air away from you. Turning your head up you watch as he suddenly gathers a massive ball of ki in both hands overhead, grinning as the power in that attack far outclasses your own strength The ball of energy is massive, you can't outrun it! Looks like he's not holding back, is he trying to kill you?! “Now, stop holding back and show me your TRUE power! SHYAAAAAAA!!”
And with that roar of challenge, he throws it straight down at you.
-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 245 paused-
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 24 Aug 2025 03:53:32 No. 6295492 Report >>6295490 And that's it for tonight, everyone enjoying the setup for the training arc? Ready to see how things play out, what Freeza's plan here is, and if you can withstand his attack? Curious how the universe will be faring once you and Freeza leave the Time Chamber, and who everyone else has decided should go in and use the final 16 hours in the chamber before the tournament? All this and more when Saiyan Conqueror Quest continues in 12 hours at noon EST!
Anonymous
>>6295492 >what Freeza's plan here is, Clearly he's trying to kill us and take our wife. That's how it works in all those books about barbarians, right? Does Frieza even read in his spare time or is it all wine tasting and casual torture?
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 24 Aug 2025 04:01:30 No. 6295502 Report >>6295478 Welcome to the party, enjoy the ride! Try not to judge my early twenty-ish episodes too hard, and buckle up! Because this crazy train's about to get even wilder!
>>6295498 No, his plan is far simpler. After all, he may have had Whis show him with happened when you fought
Broly Anonymous
>>6295502 Smart plan, but does he realize he can't bring us back from the dead if we're reduced to ash?
Anonymous
>>6295511 Sprinkle some divine blessing on it and walk it off
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 24 Aug 2025 05:00:14 No. 6295538 Report >>6295511 Yes, he's well aware. Why he's not even hitting you as hard as Broly tried to yet.
>>6295525 Ha!
Anonymous
>>6295538 >Why he's not even hitting you as hard as Broly tried to yet. The fact that this implies that he CAN hit as hard as that moment is rather terrifying.
Anonymous
>>6295554 I'm pretty sure he can hit substantially harder than Broly if he wants to. That Golden power of his ain't no joke, nor are his gains under Whis' instruction.
Anonymous
We kind of wasted those rolls here
>>6295312 4/5 passed DCs to do a good job of learning precognition, and we just wuss out after 1 month of training.
As far as training foresight/precognition, and having it work alongside and help establish the mindset for Supreme Instinct, go back and re-read the last post from GD (before the epilogue) from Thread 236 (post ID
>>6213715 ), and the first post of thread 237. We've used precog to accidentally trigger Supreme Instinct before; they're definitely not incompatible, whether or not they entirely synergise.
>So as you and Cooler continue to battle as fast as you both can, throwing your full power at each other in a titanic clash of powers all while his father watches on, you let your worries melt away. Focusing entirely on the fight itself, feeling the flow of battle, your limbs moving and reacting in perfect time, your Foresight showing you his movements just before he makes them. But then, as you fully allow your body to flow, absorbed completely in the battle, something strange happens. A sensation you've not felt in years takes over as Cooler unexpectedly cuts short his left you'd seen with your Foresight short, feinting it instead of swinging and switching for a heavy, ki-powered right instead. But as he does, suddenly, your body simply moves. Without thought or even realizing what happened at first, your body dodges the blow on its own. Stepping forward with your right, upper body twisting, you effortlessly dodge his strike. Stepping past Cooler, then blinking in shock. Did-Did that just happen? >Previously on Saiyan Conqueror Quest: >[...] Spending the month training, Karn expanded his skillset before the day he and Chaya would enter the chamber, and on the day before as we rejoin Karn, you were sparring Cooler when something unusual happens. >“HRRRAAAA!!” Cooler roars, swinging his ki-powered right at your face. But as he does, suddenly your body just... moves. Without thought or even input your body moves on its own, stepping forward with a right as your upper body twists counterclockwise. Effortlessly stepping past his strike. “Wh-Wha-?!” >“Huh?” you say, the odd, somewhat unsettling feeling that had engulfed you for a moment fading away. For just that split-second as you'd dodged him, you'd felt... Stronger, somehow. But as quickly as that sensation came it vanished, replaced with your confusion over what happened. Looking down at your right fist, you think you see a flicker of... Something. But before you can even process it your aura is back to its usual green. Shaking your head you turn back, Cooler trying to not appear as unsettled as he'd sounded a moment ago. Anonymous
I think we gotta use the precognition smart liek use it to find out how to get supreme instinct. Like precognition amd prescience has massive ancillary benefits beyond fighting
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Any of you bros play kataana zero? You get to that level of precognition and you are basically a god
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Oh my god force dude, nobody cares about the gimmick
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 24 Aug 2025 14:41:24 No. 6295632 Report Quoted By:
>>6295554 Considering Vegeta fired a stronger blast in his Final Flash at Cell than either Cell or Gohan's Kamehameha in the Cell arc, he COULD fire an attack that strong. Would just need time to charge it.
>>6295560 Golden is extremely powerful, but Apex Berserker's no joke. It is so powerful it can't be controlled by even direct physical mind control.
>>6295609 >wasted No, not wasted.
>>6295614 You can't use it to see HOW. Seeing the future doesn't mean you can feel how it was achieved. Only see yourself achieving it, but not the HOW.
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>>6295492 >And that's it for tonight, everyone enjoying the setup for the training arc? Yes.
>Ready to see how things play out, what Freeza's plan here is, and if you can withstand his attack? I can't wait to see.
> Curious how the universe will be faring once you and Freeza leave the Time Chamber, Probably they are under attack right now.
>and who everyone else has decided should go in and use the final 16 hours in the chamber before the tournament? No clue.
>All this and more when Saiyan Conqueror Quest continues in 12 hours at noon EST! Right now it is just a few minutes. In other words
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 24 Aug 2025 15:55:25 No. 6295662 Report >>6295490 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2gElxBGwjc “Shit!” you shout, barely having enough time to plant your feet before the massive orb drops down onto you. Gathering everything you've got you throw your arms up, bracing yourself as you try and catch the tremendous blast. “What the fuck are you doing?!”
“Come now Karn, this attack isn't as strong as the one your son hit you with!” Freeza shouts, you suddenly realizing what he's talking about. And what he's planning. “Now, fight back!”
And as he roars, the weight on your shoulders increases further, arms buckling under the pressure as you drop down to a knee. Yet even still you don't give up, giving it everything you've got.
“Ghhhh! HRRRRR! HRRRYAAAAAAAA!!” you roar, aura blazing wildly around you as you give it all you've got. Putting your all into pushing Freeza's attack back, but it's no use. You can't budge his attack! “Tch! Ghhhh khhh kuhhhh!”
You give it all you've got, but his attack continues to slowly drop down towards you. Arms trembling with the strain, your body pushed to the breaking point.
“Now, that's it! Show me you real power!” Freeza shouts, and suddenly you feel it. The massive blast you're holding back grows unstable, and for a split-second you're confused. But then realization dawns, and the orb detonates right in your face. His energy slams into and through you before you can activate a defense, the tremendous power consuming you. You feel his attack tearing you apart, yet you don't give in! You can't quit, not now! Your Berserker Soul blazes in response, strength surging as you give everything you've got.
“<span class="mu-s">HRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!</span>” you roar, putting your all into resisting this power washing over and through you. But then, you feel it. Something inside you snaps, and everything vanishes in a blinding flash of light. Everything, every sense, every thought is consumed by that flash.
>roll me a single d100, best of four Anonymous
Rolled 49 (1d100) >>6295662 Anonymous
Rolled 29 (1d100) >>6295662 Anonymous
Rolled 4 (1d100) >>6295662 Anonymous
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Rolled 83 (1d100) >>6295662 Dropped my fuckin die
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Rolled 90 (1d100) >>6295662 Fuuuuck
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 24 Aug 2025 16:24:55 No. 6295700 Report >>6295665 >>6295671 >>6295679 >>6295690 83/100. Looks like dropping a die was the trick, not a bad roll at all. Writing.
>>6295692 Just a moment too slow, but hidden DC was still cleared.
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>>6295700 Oh ok phew I thought I choked
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 24 Aug 2025 17:28:57 No. 6295745 Report >>6295662 “HRRRRAAAAAAA!!” you roar as the blinding light consumes everything, giving everything you've got to try and push back. Your Berserker Soul's fury, its heat and rage fully engulf you as you struggle to resist Freeza's overwhelming power as it blows up in your face. But as his energy rips and tears through you, blasting away everything as you try and resist that overwhelming power, you feel something inside you crack under the pressure. Not just you, but the Berserker Soul itself seemingly shatters. Its fury, its heat, everything vanishes as everything disappears in the blinding white light.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T23Wa-zM4k You feel yourself floating, drifting aimlessly in a white void. As you float, however, suddenly you begin to feel yourself. An icy chill sprouts from where in your chest the Berserker Soul's fire usually burns hot. The chilling sensation spreads throughout your body, the cold more intense than even the dark void of space. And as this icy power fills your body, you feel it burst forth. That frosty energy exploding from you, your strength surging higher than ever. Your body fully engulfed in the strength you've only tasted before, now fully realized as you open your eyes. And see your body drop back down to the floor of the void, landing on your feet.
“Excellent! Yes, this is what I have been waiting to see!” you hear Freeza call, turning your head as he drops out of the air, landing beside you. Arms crossed, looking rather smug as he looks you up and down. “I see why Amazo wished for you to unlock this power, this might is extraordinary! Now, shall we put it to the test?”
And before you can reply Freeza lunges, swinging his right for your face. But he's moving in slow motion, your eyes widening as you feel your body move. Taking a single step back, dodging his punch and leaving him off balance. Only to step in with a swift right straight to his face, sending the former emperor flying back. The force of your punch sends him soaring for well over a hundred yards before he's able to regain control, flipping and landing on all fours, sliding to a stop. Where he remains, you looking down at your hand. At the energy coursing through your veins. And while you should be furious, he almost killed you after all, your anger feels... Different. No longer the burning, furious rage of the Berserker Soul's usual power. But this anger, this is different. It's a cold, icy, chilling fury buried beneath the ice, your chilling aura flowing around you. Leaving only one question:
What now?
cont
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 24 Aug 2025 17:30:00 No. 6295746 Report >>6295745 >full art by @Decial10 Well? What do you want to do?
>Try and push Freeza over the edge too, the same way he did to you. Give him an attack he can't stop, not with his usual level of power and see if he can break through as well >See what this power can do and go on the offensive. That attack nearly killed you, and you're feeling a little bit of payback's earned >Focus on this power, the sensations, the feelings, everything. Study this power, and try to maintain it as long as you can >Other(write in)? Anonymous
>>6295746 >See what this power can do and go on the offensive. That attack nearly killed you, and you're feeling a little bit of payback's earned Oh I get. It's cold because it's mint green!
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>>6295746 >Try and push Freeza over the edge too, the same way he did to you. Give him an attack he can't stop, not with his usual level of power and see if he can break through as well Anonymous
>>6295746 >See what this power can do and go on the offensive. That attack nearly killed you, and you're feeling a little bit of payback's earned I'm pretty sure transforming into a Berserker the first time involved our body being torn apart as well. Maybe our physical form is interfering with the connection between our Soul and the Berserker Soul?
I wonder if Chilli has any insight to this, given his unique transformation is easily similar in concept.
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I fucking knew it, I KNEW the endgame was a tranquil fury state, I FUCKING KNEW
>>6295746 >See what this power can do and go on the offensive. That attack nearly killed you, and you're feeling a little bit of payback's earned Finally, we're making progress.
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>>6295746 >Focus on this power, the sensations, the feelings, everything. Study this power, and try to maintain it as long as you can > write in Combine it with your developing precognition and see if the powers are truly incompatible GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO
GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 24 Aug 2025 18:06:29 No. 6295774 Report >>6295754 Dammit that's a good joke, 9/10.
>>6295756 >>6295758 >>6295761 >>6295770 See what this power can do and go on the offensive. That attack nearly killed you, and you're feeling a little bit of payback's earned wins it, let's see how long you can hold this state. Roll me a 3d100, still best of 4.
First DC: 40
Second DC: 65
Third DC: 90
Anonymous
Rolled 98, 51, 40 = 189 (3d100) >>6295774 SUPREME COLGATE TOOTHPASTE
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Rolled 66, 40, 31 = 137 (3d100) >>6295774 Anonymous
Rolled 95, 42, 60 = 197 (3d100) >>6295774 Anonymous
Rolled 86, 15, 87 = 188 (3d100) >>6295774 Anonymous
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>>6295775 it would've been real lovely if you just swapped my first and third die rngesus
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 24 Aug 2025 18:21:34 No. 6295785 Report Quoted By:
>>6295775 >>6295777 >>6295778 >>6295780 98/100, 51/100, 87/100. Success on the first one, but seems you quickly lose steam. Writing.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 24 Aug 2025 19:32:09 No. 6295829 Report >>62595746 As you watch Freeza struggle to his feet, all you can think about is how he nearly killed you with that blast. And so you think it's time to get a little payback, to show what this power can do as you go on the offensive.
And the moment you have the thought your body is already moving, blurring towards your friend. Closing the gap in an instant, you seeing his eyes widen in surprise as your left fist slams into his guts.
“-GUH?!” he wheezes, doubling over in pain. Your body then follows up with a right uppercut to his jaw, snapping his head back as he flips through the air, following up with a turning left back kick to his spine, sending Freeza flying. But you aren't done, your power carrying you forward. Closing back in, only for Freeza to flip back, gathering his ki into a finger. Firing a Death Beam, but even the beam moves in slow motion towards you. Your body dodging it easily on its own, side-stepping the attack and dashing forward. Closing the rest of the way in, grabbing him by the head. Palming his face and slamming him to the ground, then lifting him up by the skull. Letting go with your right palming his face, swinging your left up into an uppercut as you drop him. Your fist slams up into Freeza's jaw, sending him rocketing up into the air. “Kyaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!”
But your body isn't done, and with a grunt kick off the ground after him. Only for Freeza, as you get close to scream.
“SHYAAAAAAAAAA!!” he roars, golden energy blazing in a powerful Explosive Wave, trying to blast you back. But his energy hits your own icy power, your energy cutting through his own blast like diving through water. Closing the rest of the gap as his eyes widen in terror, only for you to feel this power flicker. The icy chill cracks, you feeling the Berserker Soul's usual heat flare inside you for just a moment. And Freeza clearly feels it too, shelling up defensively as you close in. Only for your body to dash PAST Freeza's own, and he lets out a small sound of confusion. “Ah-?”
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 24 Aug 2025 19:33:21 No. 6295830 Report >>6295829 Only for you, now behind him to slam your right in a powerful backfist directly to his back. Sending him crashing back down to the floor of the void once more. And as you watch him fall, the Berserker Soul's usual fire finally roars back, shattering the icy strength you were wielding. The cool, frigid power vanishes like smoke as your aura shifts back to its usual green while you fall. Landing tiredly on your feet, body sagging as you struggle to remain standing. Panting and nearly dropping down to a knee as a wave of exhaustion washes over you. Nearly knocking you out of your Berserker God state, but you manage to hold onto it. Freeza, meanwhile, isn't as lucky. Or perhaps he senses your power fade as well, as he lays there, reverting back out of his Golden form while catching his breath.
After you both recover you each agree to call it a day there, your own body far more exhausted than usual after wielding that power. But as you and Freeza continue to train, day after day, you finally arrive at your day of rest, of not pushing yourself physically. Which does leave you with a question:
But what do you do now? How do you spend those days of non-physical activity?
>Focus on meditating, on the Berserker Soul and that sensation of power. On finding it within yourself, seeing how you can bring it forth again when needed, and not have to go through nearly-dying to tap it >Keep working on your Foresight, maybe you can build to actively using it with Supreme Instinct eventually >Change your focus to working on your ki control, perhaps having greater control over it will allow you to better maintain this form? >Other(write in)? Anonymous
>>6295830 >>Focus on meditating, on the Berserker Soul and that sensation of power. On finding it within yourself, seeing how you can bring it forth again when needed, and not have to go through nearly-dying to tap it Anonymous
>>6295830 >Focus on meditating, on the Berserker Soul and that sensation of power. On finding it within yourself, seeing how you can bring it forth again when needed, and not have to go through nearly-dying to tap it Well, atleast we know for sure that the answer isn't just "more anger".
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>>6295830 >Focus on meditating, on the Berserker Soul and that sensation of power. On finding it within yourself, seeing how you can bring it forth again when needed, and not have to go through nearly-dying to tap it Anonymous
>>6295830 >Focus on meditating, on the Berserker Soul and that sensation of power. On finding it within yourself, seeing how you can bring it forth again when needed, and not have to go through nearly-dying to tap it As much as I'd love to maximize the potential with Foresight, we gotta ensure consistency and endurance with this new form.
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I'm just wondering how the fuck Goku squeezed THREE uses out of Ultra Instinct with no warning before the first time. I get that he's Goku and all but holy shit. We've been only able to use this for 10 seconds max after all this time.
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>>6295839 If we count the movies, he's surprisingly had more near-death experiences than we did, despite all odds. And, let's face it, picrel.
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>>6295841 Such is the price of vigilance and care I suppose.
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>>6295839 Huh? What? You want logic, reasoning, and forethought? Out of my hair color changing and sparkly simulator? No way dude.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 24 Aug 2025 20:07:48 No. 6295857 Report >>6295833 >>6295835 >>6295836 >>6295837 Focus on meditating, on the Berserker Soul and that sensation of power. On finding it within yourself, seeing how you can bring it forth again when needed, and not have to go through nearly-dying to tap it wins UNANIMOUSLY. No errant thoughts, very good, this will boost the effectiveness of this training. Roll me a 3d100, no critfails.
First DC: 95
Second DC: 70
Third DC: 45
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Rolled 1, 57, 41 = 99 (3d100) >>6295857 Anonymous
Rolled 77, 100, 1 = 178 (3d100) >>6295857 Anonymous
Rolled 78, 53, 79 = 210 (3d100) >>6295857 Anonymous
Rolled 94, 15, 95 = 204 (3d100) >>6295857 Rolli-
>>6295860 >>6295862 What the fuck?
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>>6295860 >>6295862 >>6295863 >>6295864 These rolls are incredible. They reflect that Universe's fate depends on whether Karn masters this or not.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 24 Aug 2025 20:18:41 No. 6295869 Report Quoted By:
>>6295860 >>6295862 >>6295863 >>6295864 94/100, CRIT/100, 95/100. Almost get it, then critical success. And a 95 as well after? Well, this training will CERTAINLY succeed now. Writing.
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>>6295891 Dude I don't know what the fuck is going on with my dice lately. I think I need to seek absolution.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 24 Aug 2025 21:39:19 No. 6295908 Report >>6295830 Your decision of how to spend those days comes easy, after feeling that flash of power once more. You spend each of your days at rest in meditation. But not meditating as you had when working on your Foresight, focused on feeling the flow of the force throughout reality. Instead, you turn your focus inward. Focusing on your Berserker Soul instead, diving deep into the powerful soul itself. While Freeza is out in the void working on his ki, controlling his energy, manipulating it, and shaping it, your focus is entirely inwards. Every fifth day, you stop pushing yourself physically, turning your entire focus in to the source of your strength.
For the next three months, you don't make much progress. Occasionally you'd tap into that power momentarily when sparring Freeza, but never consistently. And on your meditation, much of your time was spent battling the Berserker Soul's rage as you let it engulf and envelop you. But as you keep training with Freeza, every day taking a few minutes to meditate, to focus on your soul and align yourself with it, you find the meditation soon becomes easier. Even when engulfed in the Berserker Soul's rage, the fiery emerald aura blazing around you, power raised to its maximum, you can remain calm.
And that calm is the key. The calming focus on your meditation, as the Berserker Soul's fury rampages through you, allows you to peer even deeper. Past the rage and anger, only to find even greater hate and rage. Peeling back layer after layer, only to find each is more vengeful than the one before it, all the way to the Berserker Soul's core. Nestled deep inside the fiery soul, at it's center, is a white-hot rage so intense, that the first time you come into contact with it while meditating, it overwhelms you. Obliterating your senses, only to see Freeza looking down concerned.
“Karn? What happened?” he asks, brows furrowed in concern. “One moment you were meditating, the next I heard you screaming. And by the time I'd turned around you'd already gone silent, and collapsed.”
“I found it.” you smile weakly up at him. “I found that power within me.”
“Oho? So, you think you can finally take that form, then?” he asks, you shaking your head. Seeing the disappointment clear on his face at your denial.
“No. Not yet. Just because I found it doesn't mean I can use it. I have a long way to go until I can wield that power whenever I want.” you reply, sitting back up into your meditative position. “But now that I've found it, the real progress can start.”
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 24 Aug 2025 21:40:23 No. 6295910 Report >>6295908 And, true to your word, once you discovered the icy heart of the Berserker Soul, your progress increased exponentially. Within another month you could find that icy center of the Berserker Soul's wrath consistently. Then, with a bit of inspiration as you meditate you no longer try to control the anger. Not fighting against your anger, but fully embracing it. Diving deeper and deeper into your rage, letting it fill you to bursting. The Berserker Soul expanding as your rage increases, until the barrier between the icy core and the fiery rage is stretched thin and taut. And at the end of your third full month in the chamber, the end of the first full week you'd managed to keep the Berserker God transformation up the entire time, as the day neared its end you felt it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKwm3CVPtww Tapping into the icy rage, the quiet fury of the heart of the Berserker Soul, you felt yourself transform. The fury rising within you reaches it's peak, the fiery rage within you turning white-hot, then suddenly you feel it shatter. The uncontrollable rage that had been building like a storm vanishes instantly, replaced with something colder. An icy rage, calm, focused, centered takes its place as you feel your body stand. Freeza, feeling it as well turns to you, seeing you've ascended to that form once more.
“Well well. Looks like these days of meditating and rest have begun to pay off.” he says, flashing up into his Golden form. His strength already far beyond what it was when you'd first entered. Clenching his fists, you watch as his power blazes, rising higher and higher. “But you're not the only one who's been pushing their limits! SHYAAAAAAAAAAA!!”
And as you watch his strength continues to climb, the golden glow turning darker as his body changes. Losing its golden sheen as he darkens as well, strength surging. And with a final roar, his power explodes in a blinding flash of light. Shielding your eyes, you lower your hand as the glow fades, revealing your longtime friend and ally's new form.
“Are you ready?” he asks with a smirk, clenching his fists once more. “Shall we see whose new power is greater?”
Wordlessly your body takes your long-practiced fighting stance, Freeza smirking as he does the same. Your icy power surging as Freeza's dark might, glowing suspiciously like a Destroyer's own aura does the same. And, as one, you both charge forward, fists colliding in a clash of titanic power.
-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 245 End-
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Sun 24 Aug 2025 21:41:55 No. 6295911 Report >>6295910 And that's it for this episode, everyone have fun? Ready to see just how effective that crit was for unlocking this power moving forward, just how strong Supreme Instinct is, and how powerful Freeza has the potential to be? Are you ready to finish your training inside the Hyperbolic Time Chamber and see what state the universe is in upon your return? And will this be enough to topple the giants of this coming Tournament of Power? All this and more, next time on Saiyan Conqueror Quest!
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>>6295911 It was the right decision to take the full year in here. Between Black and Supreme Instinct, I'm hoping we have enough raw power to hold down Jiren or Moro, and we have some strong versatility with the rest of our team. We just have to hold these forms as a trump card so our strength isn't quite revealed when we walk onto the field at the ToP.
Sick sesh GD.
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>>6295911 >and see what state the universe is in upon your return? Fucking Zamasu can't possibly be dumb enough to try again.
Whis is probably going to be even more of a scowling bitch to us now.
Interested to see where you scale Black Frieza to (both against us now, and against Hiren in the ToP), considering his canon depiction of one's hitting UI and UE Goku and Vegeta
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>>6295910 Ah I see Freeza got the pass. Cool.
Honestly I'm so received training dice haven't fucked us. Though this does make me more curious about the origins of the Berserker Soul.
Yes, I know about the God Ritual done by the Evil Saiyans 'creating' it but that seems wrong to me, and looking at U6 that proves me right.
Their Twin universes but Hulk there has more of the Berserker Soul then Kale does so I think the Berserker Soul is Old.
Like Divine Cosmology type Captial O Old. Theres no way one mans rage over his brother cucking him spawned a wrath so great it allows a mortal to ignore Hakai and battle a Destroyer God. Thats not enough.
SOMETHING happened, in an Age long past, some great terrible Sin or Crime was done by the Divine, and the fury has echoed ever after, eternally seeking new hosts to continue its rampage. Like some soul based Reincarnating Doomslayer vs Heaven.
The Berserker God Ritual of U7 just gave it a beacon to lock on to.
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>>6295910 The ohhhh shit everyone will have will be great.
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>>6295746 >full art by @Decial10 Super nice. I can't believe Karn made it through. Universe 7 might not actually get erased in the tournament. This is awesome. Both the art and the fact that Karn managed to achieve this. Freeza really helped so much. I mean without him this breakthrough right now would not happen.
Also this picture has aura.
>>6295910 >Tapping into the icy rage, the quiet fury of the heart of the Berserker Soul, you felt yourself transform. It’s fascinating that it is so cold. I wonder why. Also it’s great that Karn achieved this.
>Losing its golden sheen as he darkens as well, strength surging. And with a final roar, his power explodes in a blinding flash of light. Shielding your eyes, you lower your hand as the glow fades, revealing your longtime friend and ally's new form. Very nice. It is awesome that he managed to reach his new power too.
>And, as one, you both charge forward, fists colliding in a clash of titanic power. Who is stronger? I can’t wait to find out. Does Supreme Instinct have defined power level or does it keeps getting stronger as long as you can maintain it?
Also can this titanic clash of power accidentally tear hole in Hyperbolic Time Chamber like Buu did when he was trapped? I hope not.
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>>6295910 holy fuuuuuuuuck!!!!!
>>6295911 >Ready to see just how effective that crit was for unlocking this power moving forward, just how strong Supreme Instinct is, and how powerful Freeza has the potential to be? I am so fucking ready. While this form is brand new and certainly not as powerful as the time he rocked up in the Granolah saga, I know its HUGE. Kind of worried about the stamina though, he hasn't quite mastered the stamina drain in Gold and Black seems to be worse with it.
>Are you ready to finish your training inside the Hyperbolic Time Chamber and see what state the universe is in upon your return? I can't wait to see the pile of dead U9 assassins in our wake. I wanna give Roh and Sidra a scare for that one.
>And will this be enough to topple the giants of this coming Tournament of Power? I don't think there's any mortal currently existing in our timeline that can stand up against a duo of Black Freeza and Supreme Instinct Karn. The question is how much time we have to fight said giants with these transformations?
Damn, if only there was a second weekend, or if I could time travel to the next session. I've been DYING to see these powers and cut loose in the Tournament of Power.
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>>6295938 >I think the Berserker Soul is Old. >Like Divine Cosmology type Captial O Old In regards to the Hulk, you ever heard of The Green Door and The One Below All? I feel like they might be VERY relevant here.
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>>6295938 >SOMETHING happened, in an Age long past, some great terrible Sin or Crime was done by the Divine, and the fury has echoed ever after, eternally seeking new hosts to continue its rampage It was the first time someone stubbed their pinky toe on a table leg. The birth of the concept of anger itself.
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Somebody had to deal with a middle-aged woman government office worker / receptionist (named Linda, of course, because they all are). She took three weeks to process three hours' worth of paperwork, lost one of the pages, cost you thousands of dollars due to the delays, but refused to acknowledge any fault on her own part. And thus the spark of the berserker soul became an inferno.
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GrandDragonQM !!zkQYD4JVtzO ID:M9AO4wmi Mon 25 Aug 2025 02:43:55 No. 6296088 Report >>6295923 Glad you enjoyed. And next week we'll see how quickly you progress in your training, now that you know how to tap in.
>>6295935 True, but that was TEN YEARS of straight, dedicated training after Broly where he was stronger than either Goku or Vegeta Blue.
>>6295938 It is possible it didn't CREATE the Berserker Soul, but perhaps something took notice of the ritual and decided to interfere?
>>6295939 True, when either unleashes their true might, Jiren will take notice.
>>6295944 Very true. And it took you three months to do it, but had you not taken the year you wouldn't have had the time to work on it you now do. Including how long it takes to tap in, or how long you can hold it.
Yes it does, the full piece even more so. But you all aren't ready for the full piece.
>Also can this titanic clash of power accidentally tear hole in Hyperbolic Time Chamber like Buu did when he was trapped? I hope not. It could potentially destroy it completely, like Blue Vegeta did in DBS.
>>6295950 >I can't wait to see the pile of dead U9 assassins in our wake. I wanna give Roh and Sidra a scare for that one. Hue hue hue.
Amazo can absolutely slap your shit, and is still technically mortal. But also Kars, as once he sees your powers in the tourrnament could grow quite strong.
>>6295953 Yes, but that's a concept well outside reality. Much like a certain other entity who has noticed you before.
>>6295993 Ha! But no, it isn't anger. But wrath, rage, and determination. Why GLs rings are green.
>>6296008 I could FEEL my blood pressure rising, thanks for that.
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>>6296088 >Ha! But no, it isn't anger. But wrath, rage, and determination. Why GLs rings are green. Huh...I wonder how a Power Ring would react to the Berserker Soul.
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GD in previous thread you said this about Chilli.>“The closest description is an avatar of death. He IS Death, at least partially.” I tried to understand it but I can’t fully comprehend it. Though what happened to ChiIli is very interesting nonetheless. I wonder if Chilli understands extent of changes that happened to him. If my question leads to a big spoiler I won't mind it being left unanswered. If somehow Chilli's soul was moved to another body. Would this connection to Death appear there in the different body once again? That would prove that this link to Death is tied to his soul and is not just something that is limited to his current body.
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>>6296098 You could recharge, at least partially, a green lantern ring with the Berserker Soul.
>>6296336 >pic related is not entirely inaccurate actually. See, Zenkai works by Saiyans adapting to what nearly killed them, growing stronger so it doesn't happen again. But how does one adapt to DEATH? Death is a fundamental aspect of existence ever since Disparity came to be with the First Flame's existence. Heat and cold, light and dark, life and death, all core aspects of reality. And Chilli has become one of those aspects. Even if only slightly.
>if Good question, but as Chilli currently has no plans for lichdom we may never know.
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>>6296336 >You could recharge, at least partially, a green lantern ring with the Berserker Soul. Speaking of Lantern Rings, Karn probably wouldn't accept one, but why hasn't a Red or Yellow lantern ring never sought out Karn? He fits both super well.
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>>6296483 The negative aspects of the emotional electromagnetic spectrum typically don't care for ring-bearers they can't control. Not to mention Karn probably REAKS of willpower, which kinda clashes with sorrow, fear, rage, and greed.