>>10666458Amazon JP also usually ships much faster than the estimates. I placed an order directly on Amazon JP a week ago or so and the estimate told me it'd be arriving on October 21st but it's already in my state. For the both of these together I paid 35, that's about the price that my local shop wants for one of these. There's also a bunch of discounts on some other lines, I ordered a plamax kit as well. I don't think the prices are usually this good.