>>9403566Mostly I'm expecting them to move a little bit faster, because we've already seen that they're all basically complete design wise, it's just production now. And last we saw Bonecrusher and Scavenger were already in production to some extent. So I was/am expecting an announcement any day now, and what better time than tfcon. I guess my problem is that I'm trying to hold MS to the same standard of speed at which Newage released their devastator. Which I really shouldn't do because NA's devastator ended up being a pile of crap.