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hey guys, thanks for all the info and discussion. I can tell this is a good board. I just now bought the Black Series Kylo from walmart, it was $20. I'm extremely happy with him. I haven't bought an action figure since pic related was the standard. I love the level of detail and how many of his joints bend, I'm having fun trying to figure out the coolest pose. Great figure, exactly what I was hoping it would be, love it. I decided against the Kmart version because I really hate the snow on his cloak, other than the force hand this looks much better and more natural.