>>8626716I think I'm having a stroke. How did I support your take on the bay movies being good when I called them poorly written toy commercials? Being popular doesn't mean good, as evidenced by the diminishing box office grosses. If you just want to talk about the hardliners for G1 who just want Sunbow on loop forever, then there's nothing more to say because we know the only thing that will please them, and it's pointless to focus on it.
And yes I saw what you said about BW trying something new, but you were basically just talking about how the Transformers looked in the films when I said they basically exist and were made for the same reasons as the G1 shows. If visuals is all you meant by "spirit of G1," then you made a poor choice of words. But if that is what you meant, then Beast Wars still diverged the most from G1's looks due to the rounder, more organic shapes of robot modes with actual gut bits as design flourishes, Either way it just seems like you're only arguing semantics.