>>7691609>And nothing you said has anything to do with interest. Risk in an "investment" and Interest on a loan are two completely different issues.I think what he's getting at is that they don't take any risks because they can't get a loan.
So they turn inward to their circlejerk places and only get money from an insular group (hence interest free loans), who don't care that there's no growth and shuts out anyone but already ardent fans, because that's who blind buys products.
Kickstarters are great for making something exist, but real growth comes from actually selling it to the general public. You can see who actually grows as a company by how much product they're able to produce afterward, because demand is so great.
Whereas 4H can only make a product when they ask for interest free loans and fail at everything else but their little insular fanbase.
I want to see 4H expand, like they had tried to before. For the past 4 years, it's nothing but retread after retread, with nothing else in the future.