>>8764098>Not sure if you're referring to or combining "kid appeal/surrogate/audience-fave-hopefully" chars with "I'm 2 cool 4 skool" chars. I think Bee would be in the same list as Cheetor and Hot Shot, but not necessarily share one with Smokescreen or Hot RodOh I'd put them all under the same category aside from Bumblebee, G1 Bumblebee was harmless, he was in every way the "kid appeal" bot, he had more in common with like Fixit and Squeeks than any of his predecessors or newer incarnations which tend to edge him up a but. But yeah, Cheetor and Hot Shot to me, were total "teen rebel" characters and I can't stand that, I don't personally see how they are different than Hot Rod, Smokescreen, Sideburn, blah blah, I hate them all.
>What drives me up the wall though are incompetent and universally bullied antagonists. They're either annoying in-universe and from a writing/audience standpoint, or I just feel really bad for them. Just stop giving me archetypes, unless you're Joseph Campbell, and I'm pretty sure Hasbro doesn't have him, because he is deceased!!Lol I personally mind that one less but I can understand the annoyance some have with it, I won't lie I love whenever Starscream is actually abused for his bullshit like he was in G1, and I like Waspy boi and and RiD Preds who were basically all losers.
