>>7739473The problem comes in the way the waist joint is designed. While Optics Hunter has the swivel in the pelvis and the hinge in the torso, Hex has the reverse. The problem lies in how the torso isn't designed to allow the hinge in the pelvis to bend at all in any position but straight ahead. If you don't know before hands, it's easy to stress the mushroom swivel or even to break it.